Re: mollases mode

2002-12-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
I had a similar problem on windows. I had an application which had to run 24/7 and which would slow down after a couple of days. I was storing all communication in and out in a field which was supposed to be truncated to 200 lines but, the truncation code didn't work right. This meant that the

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami a écrit : mmm interesting replace the standard web forms in most of the next production apps how can MC replace an HTML Web form? do you mean you will distribute MC stacks and the user won't go through a browser? Exactly ! In using MC 2.4.3/libURL 1.0.8 if

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Alain Farmer a écrit : Hello, Excuse me for budding in but ... YEAH! How can MC replace an HTML Web form? Use MetaCard's widgets instead of the poor unreliable ones that we have to use when using HTML to create the form and JavaScript to make it interactive. Instead of the submit

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Dominique
Are you speaking from the indexes page form submit javascript ? It works ok under Netscape 4.7, different issues of Explorer, Mozilla 1.3 and Opera 5 under Linux, Jaguar, Win98 and Win2K. It's a javascript 1.5 specs code. In the iCab prefs (inScript) all the specs are checked, from 1.0 to 1.5.

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dominique a écrit : Are you speaking from the indexes page form submit javascript ? It works ok under Netscape 4.7, different issues of Explorer, Mozilla 1.3 and Opera 5 under Linux, Jaguar, Win98 and Win2K. It's a javascript 1.5 specs code. In the iCab prefs (inScript) all the specs

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and Jaguar ? When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
andu a écrit : --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and Jaguar ? When it comes to browsers they should

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, andu wrote: I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with plain html. Speaking for myself, Javascript allows me to script interactivity that is not possible with straight HTML: functions, variables, image management, etc. The biggest issue to deal with is

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 16:49:34 +0100 Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andu a écrit : --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 15:00:53 +0100 Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 08:54:59 -0800 Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, andu wrote: I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with plain html. Speaking for myself, Javascript allows me to script interactivity that is not possible with straight

Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
I changed the thread on this because I am also following the MC--PostGreSQL closely in its own right... OK, so agreed, we can use Metacard to provide content over the web. I am doing it already in a very small way... but let's we discuss this in a larger context (we got 1.7 million visitors on

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, andu wrote: If we talk about public web sites the goal should be absolute accessibility everywhere. This is of course a worthy goal, but it's pretty daunting when you run up against lack of standards and inconsistent feature support in browsers. I can't even begin to imagine the

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:42:11 -0800 Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, HTML has evolved; look at all the spinoffs: DHTML, XML, SMIL, etc. The bigger problem is (lack of) standards. You just mentioned a few, the even bigger problem seems to be sticking to just one ;-).

Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks Comments

2002-12-19 Thread jbv
Ken, Sorry for being so late on this topic, but last week has been sort of hectic... Anyway, thanks a lot for your suggestion. I found the time to test it today : it works great but, like the other script submitted by Jacqueline, it becomes rather slow when the amount of data gets large...

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread jbv
Pierre Andu , andu a écrit : When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they work... I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with plain html. Allo Andu, I agree with you. Most browser-side problems are happening in parsing ..js

Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
So, what kinds of strategies can anyone suggest to take this beyond the consensus reality barrier? Start with the unparalleled interactivity performance of REAL software like MetaCard, versus mere web-browser based access to HTML + JavaScript. For example: once the web page is rendered, can

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread andu
--On Thursday, December 19, 2002 22:36:42 + jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pierre Andu , andu a écrit : When it comes to browsers they should be considered bugged when they work... I'd like to understand why people use javascript when they can do with plain html. Allo Andu, I

Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks Comments

2002-12-19 Thread Ken Ray
Thanks for checking... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Dumb sort question - Tanks Comments

Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: I changed the thread on this because I am also following the MC--PostGreSQL closely in its own right... OK, so agreed, we can use Metacard to provide content over the web. I am doing it already in a very small way... but let's we discuss this in a larger

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Ray G. Miller
Yo troops, With all this talk about the pleasures of working with HTML, I just couldn't resist sending this along... -- HOW TO BUILD A WEB PAGE IN 25 STEPS 1. Download a piece of Web authoring software ~ 20 minutes. 2. Think about what you want to write on your Web page ~ 6

xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
If we talk about public web sites the goal should be absolute accessibility everywhere. I think we can all agree on this fundamental goal. But making a player available freely and providing content which is not html-ized does not contravene this crucial principle. You cannot create xCard

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Pierre Sahores
andu wrote: --On Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:42:11 -0800 Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, HTML has evolved; look at all the spinoffs: DHTML, XML, SMIL, etc. The bigger problem is (lack of) standards. You just mentioned a few, the even bigger problem seems to be sticking

Re: xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Robert Brenstein
Backward compatibility is more viable (sustainable) with stacks than with HTML pages. A stack is equivalent to a complete site, yet far more flexible than the dozens or hundreds of corresponding web pages. A stack can/will be scripted to re-purpose the existing content, casting the content in

Re: HTML versus xCards

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Ray and y'all, Yo troops, Nice of you to join in! ;-) With all this talk about the pleasures of working with HTML, I just couldn't resist sending this along... HOW TO BUILD A WEB PAGE IN 25 STEPS... Hilarious but true! ;-) Playing devil's advocate for a moment, it could be argued

Re: xCards versus HTML

2002-12-19 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Robert and y'all, Hmm, you seem to forget one little detail. MC is not a stagnant environment and evolves as well, creating compatibility issues of its own as new versions are coming out. A double-edged sword indeed. On the one hand, we want development in order to improve what we

Re:Subject: Web-Dedicated Metacard

2002-12-19 Thread Claude Lemmel
Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:17:01 -1000 Subject: Web-Dedicated Metacard From: Sannyasin Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I changed the thread on this because I am also following the MC--PostGreSQL closely in its own right...

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Ken Ray
LOL! That's beautiful... something I think I'll post in my office! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: Ray G. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:08 PM

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2002-12-19 Thread FMoyer
Can anyone explain the following: Using Mac OS9: If you copy some text in a Metacard stack and while Metacard is still running, go into another application and paste, the text pastes. But if you copy some text in a Metacard stack, quit Metacard, then go into another application and

Re: MC front end to PostgreSQL

2002-12-19 Thread Dominique
Did you try Opera 5 (Andu said, previously, that Opera 6 linux is bugged) or, else Mozilla, whoses works fine there on both Linux and Jaguar ? I tried Opera, but was not satisfied with a thing that seemed to me as a crude unfinished port ;- Really -- I am pleased with the functionalities of