Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Brenstein
Catching up after two-week vacation... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give us a difference list? a summary: MetaCard Revolution Enginesame same Both use the same engine; languages features, speed etc. identical for both I

Re: MySQL Support

2003-07-21 Thread Ben Rubinstein
on 7/19/03 12:14 AM, Simon lord wrote Hi all, I need to write an app that will allow me to read/write data to MySQL. I'd like to tinker with this on the weekend and I've seen it mentioned here a few times but was not in the market to use such a combination. That said, can some kind sole

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Brenstein
I have a library of custom handlers that I load at startup in both MC and Rev. One of my handlers reports the mainstacks that are currently loaded in memory. When I run this handler in MC, there are at most only a couple of stacks from the IDE listed, but in Rev, it is difficult to find my own

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Brenstein
On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So putting it just as bluntly, that there is a perception of MC's value is reason enough. If that perception changes over time the MC engine will whither away naturally. There should be no need to force change, and doing so would not

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Simon lord
Agreed. I tried to give Rev an honest chance this weekend and got totally frustrated with all the palettes. I was genuinely happy to see support for MySQL and other items I need but the interface simply turned me off and I had to use MC in the end. It's not that I didn't understand the

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Ben Rubinstein
on 7/21/03 3:10 PM, Simon lord wrote Maybe Kevin will add a pref dialog that allows us to decide what palettes and menus we want to see in our work environment. That would help considerably and I don't see it as being that difficult to provide. [...snip...] On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 09:10

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Simon lord
Not that I'm here to speak for RunRev or anything (and for all I know those folks may know of a reason why this suggestion is a very bad idea); but if you're interested in things like the database support, but find the interface too rcih/in your face, have you tried the Suspend Development

Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

2003-07-21 Thread Simon Lord
Wow. See what happens when you only go through your lists once a week... My feelings on this are mixed, on the one hand I'm hoping Scott got a sweet deal and can retire/relax after years of hard work. I haven't read through all the RE:'s on this thread but if it hasn't been said yet then

Re: METACARD ACQUIRED BY RUN REV!!!

2003-07-21 Thread Simon Lord
The first order of business will be to set up a mailing list so that we can start discussions of how that group should be organized and later, what changes to the UI everyone wants (and are willing to contribute to!). That should help keep this list focused on *using* the UI, with some

Does raisePalettes not work in OSX?

2003-07-21 Thread David Epstein
With raisePalettes set to false, my palettes behave as expected in Mac OS9.2, but in OSX 10.2.6 they remain raised even if raisePalettes is false. Do others experience this? If so, is there a workaraound in OSX that would make a palette behave in an unraised manner, i.e., behave like a normal

Re: OS X Educational Shareware Market?

2003-07-21 Thread curry
Richard MacLemale wrote: I think that, with many schools doing Mac OS X migration, there's a whole market of educational users looking for elementary level OS X applications that are NATIVE OS X and don't require Classic. Speaking for my own county I know this is true. There are titles

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ben Rubinstein wrote: Maybe that is the way forward for those who will want to continue to upgrade to new engines etc, benefit from the additional libraries, but use their own or the classic MetaCard UI. It might even be possible to formalise this in a future version of Rev - eg have

RE: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-21 Thread Monte Goulding
I once considered writing a Rev plugin called GhostCard, which would emulate the UI of the dead HyperCard: When activated, the Rev IDE is suspended and replaced with a black-and-white UI that emulates the Hypercard expoerience. You could only work with one image, only select one