Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
Yes. I started using Valentina with HyperCard and then switched to MetaCard. Revolution came along but I continue with MetaCard and Valentina. Which version of Valentina is optimal for your MetaCard is to be checked. I presume that by MetaCard 2.5 you mean Rev engine 2.5 with MC IDE. Actually, Robert, at that time Runtime Revolution hadn't quite acquired the engine yet (they did so in July of 2003)... so it truly was MetaCard 2.5 (which was released in April of 2003, IIRC). Alain, one caveat on using Valentina is whether the *current* Valentina will work with MC 2.5; you may need to find/acquire an older version for it to work. You should contact Ruslan Zasukhin at Paradigmasoft (sunshine AT public.kherson.ua) to find out for sure. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
Hi Ken andf y'all, Alain, one caveat on using Valentina is whether the *current* Valentina will work with MC 2.5; you may need to find acquire an older version for it to work. You should contact Ruslan Zasukhin at Paradigmasoft to find out for sure. Thanks for the tip. I already have, and Ruslan has already replied. He has graciously provided me with a URL so that I can download a DEMO version of whichever version suits MetaCard 2.5. Which I figure is the first one in a l-o-n-g list of versions, e.g. version 1.11 This demo version will only work about 10 minutes at a time, but one of the respondents in this thread assured me that it was in-fact longer than 10 minutes AND that it would be sufficient to evaluate whether Valentina is for me. As it has been for y'all, I surmise, because respondents in this thread have been unanimously favorable to Valentina. No one reported any regret. Not so-far, anyways. I'd like to hear from other Valentina users too, or would-be users that were discouraged.. or whomever has something relevant to say about Valentina. Good or bad are equally welcome. :) I'm being so-cautious because I have dedicated hundreds of hours, testing various databases (DBMSs), over the years, and NONE of them did the trick for me, including XCMDs for HyperCard. This time, I want to KNOW for SURE that I'll be headed in the right direction. :) Thanks y'all for the heads-up, :) Alain ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
As it has been for y'all, I surmise, because respondents in this thread have been unanimously favorable to Valentina. No one reported any regret. Not so-far, anyways. I'd like to hear from other Valentina users too, or would-be users that were discouraged.. or whomever has something relevant to say about Valentina. Good or bad are equally welcome. :) Actually, I'm not completely in the yay-Valentina! camp. ;-) I was working with a client on an application that was using Valentina as the DB, and it did not scale very well... we had a situation where my client's major customer couldn't get more than a few hours out of Val without it crashing. We worked with Ruslan almost daily for over a month and couldn't figure out what the issue was. We ended up switching to MySQL and have been happy as clams ever since. NOTE, however, that (a) we were using Valentina 1.x, not 2.x (which is supposed to be more stable/flexible/etc.), (b) we were not having any problems with our smaller customers (i.e. 2-20 concurrent users) but only had problems with the larger ones (50-150 concurrent users), and (c) Ruslan was INCREDIBLY responsible to us and was working with us daily, giving us custom builds, etc., so the support was excellent. I'm not sure any of the above applies to you, but just thought I'd bring it up. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
On 22/12/08 at 15:31 -0600 Ken Ray apparently wrote: Actually, I'm not completely in the yay-Valentina! camp. ;-) As Ken says, support is a big forte of Valentina. On the other hand, the documentation has been always somewhat deficient. At least, there is now a decent set of examples for V4REV. Each version of Valentina has its own quirks, just like Revolution. The development process is not branched, so one has to keep upgrading to get bug fixes, just like Revolution again. Overall, IMHO, I think it beats pants off of competition for desktop applications, particularly in terms of performance, although it became somewhat bulky as software (good that this is mostly not so important nowadays). I haven't used the server version yet, so no opinion there, but I haven't heard anything really negative, either. Robert ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
NOTE, however, that (a) we were using Valentina 1.x, not 2.x (which is supposed to be more stable/flexible/etc.), (b) we were not having any problems with our smaller customers (i.e. 2-20 concurrent users) but only had problems with the larger ones (50-150 concurrent users), and (c) Ruslan was INCREDIBLY responsible to us and was working with us daily, giving us custom builds, etc., so the support was excellent. I'm not sure any of the above applies to you, but just thought I'd bring it up. Valentina 1.x was...a long time ago. I believe that's when it was still Valentina XCMD and not Valentina for Revolution. The best thing to do is just to download and give it a try. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
