Re: Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

2006-02-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
Chipp Walters wrote: Jacque, You seem to be the person who best understands this. Can you answer me the questions below (as two emails to Kevin at RunRev are still awaiting an answer)? I can give you my interpretation of it, with the caveat that RR can override me with a more exhaustive

Re: Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

2006-02-27 Thread Chipp Walters
Jacque, Thanks for your clarification! I can breathe easier now. I assume below you're not referring to either MC or Constellation regarding IDE's as they both require a licensed Revolution engine to run. Also, the 'single app' you're referring to of course is StackRunner? -Chipp J.

Re: Rev Licensing - IDEs/GUIs/twiddly toolbars ???

2006-02-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote: 1. Why does RunRev not allow individuals who wish to work with the MC IDE only a way to purchase the RR engine at a reduced price without the RR IDE? This list is for the enhancement and maintenance of the MetaCard IDE by its users. Kevin sometimes reads this list, but the

Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

2006-02-26 Thread Mathewson
Just at present I am running a small English language school which caters to 5-8 year-old Bulgarians. Parents pay me to teach their kids Bulgarian - and, despite my best efforts, the little boys and girls somehow manage to learn the language :) Now I have 3 tatty old PCs at one end of the

Re: Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

2006-02-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mathewson wrote: The question is, am I breaking RR's new rules about customised splash screens (that contain NO acknowledgement of RR - although there is a large sheet of paper on the wall pointing out that all the programs I use have been authored using Runtime Revolution) that have been

Re: Rev licensing - post factum rulings ???

2006-02-26 Thread Chipp Walters
Jacque, You seem to be the person who best understands this. Can you answer me the questions below (as two emails to Kevin at RunRev are still awaiting an answer)? We all know that the new Rev Media app is supposed to work with templated solutions. I believe one of them is a slideshow

RE: Rev licensing 2.5

2006-02-21 Thread MidiToolz
). JR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:39 PM Cc: Discussions on Metacard Subject: Re: Rev licensing Also, even though you may be using the MC IDE, you are still using the Revolution engine

Re: Rev licensing 2.5

2006-02-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
MidiToolz wrote: This licensing situation is getting a little too hostile for me. I am developing an alternative solution in Java, so I have moved on. I still use the 2.5 engine I licensed in 2002 from Scott Raney when I need to.. Interesting that you mentioned Java. I've been giving it a

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Shari, Kevin and y'all I know folks have been discussing something about players, but it sounded more like an issue for those who wanted to create a competing program to Rev. From a business point of view: sounded like is not sufficient. As an entrepreneur, I must know *exactly* what

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Ken Ray
On 2/20/06 4:56 PM, Alain Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is precisely the question that I'm asking. Which licence(s), if any, allow us to create standalones? Are we allowed to bundle one|more stack(s) with it? (which of course remain editable). Can we continue to bundle a player of our

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Ken Ray, Alain, are you a member of the Improve List? No. If so, please read the results of a conversation I had with Kevin related to standalones and players (title: Tempest in a Teapot: A Resolution). Can you give me/us an executive summary? :-) Regards, Alain

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: Alain Farmer wrote: Naturally, we are trying to 'hide' the xCard origins of our custom solutions when releasing wares. Solutions crafted with C++, for example, don't advert the tools that they were edited and compiled with! snip I see nothing natural about choosing a

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Richard, Today All RunRev requires is (last I heard anyway): This product was made with Revolution Portions Copyright 2006 Runtime Revolution Ltd. I don't object to including of a copyright notice in *MY* splash-screen, and definitely in the About and other docs, but the issue is

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Alain Farmer wrote: My customers don't want to know what I've used. In the worst-case, they don't want to be bothered yet insist on some particular tools because they have heard so on that these tools are the ones that serious outfits are using. PHP versus MetaCard comes to mind; at least to

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alain Farmer wrote: Hello Richard, Today All RunRev requires is (last I heard anyway): This product was made with Revolution Portions Copyright 2006 Runtime Revolution Ltd. I don't object to including of a copyright notice in *MY* splash-screen, and definitely in the About and other

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Scott Rossi
I hear the sound of straws being grasped so as to drag this thread out longer than would be truly required LOL. I gotta save this one for future use. Nice. - Scott ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: On 2/20/06 9:49 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is whether we can create our own custom standalone 'players', with our own custom splash screen, for the editable stacks that we craft for our customers. Kevin clarified this, and Ken recapped it. That was

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: Ken Ray wrote: On 2/20/06 9:49 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issue is whether we can create our own custom standalone 'players', with our own custom splash screen, for the editable stacks that we craft for our customers. Kevin clarified this, and Ken

Re: Rev licensing

2006-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Shari wrote: snipping liberally You are right, I do not miss what I don't know exists. The reason I will upgrade is not for new features, as I have no idea if any of the new features will benefit me. I suspect that most new features are of more benefit to those who build business software or