Re: [Metamath] Re: metamath.exe - added "/extract" to "write source"

2020-09-05 Thread Mario Carneiro
The Metamath -> MM0 importer already contains a feature for selecting which target theorems you want, so it has the same effect as using /extract on the source database first and then importing it. I've been using numbers for example theorems like dirith or pnt in my talks. I wonder what is the

[Metamath] Re: metamath.exe - added "/extract" to "write source"

2020-09-05 Thread Norman Megill
On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 2:46:44 AM UTC-4 Alexander van der Vekens wrote: > That's sound really great! I will try this new feature soon, using the > friendship theorem as "root"... > Good choice. I was curious so I added it (temporarily) here:

[Metamath] Re: metamath.exe - added "/extract" to "write source"

2020-09-05 Thread Glauco
> In metamath version 0.192 ( http://us2.metamath.org/index.html#mmprog ), "write source" has a new qualifier, "/extract ", > which will create a self-contained database containing exactly and only the axioms and theorems needed to prove > A possible use for this is to create a miniature

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread 'fl' via Metamath
In any case, dissociating the treatment of matrices, tuples and words is a bad idea. -- FL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Metamath" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread 'fl' via Metamath
> I think there is no consensus to use index sets starting with 1, > especially not for tuples/words (actually, there was a consensus to start > with 0 for words, see discussion in > https://groups.google.com/g/metamath/c/UwTUuNPgaB0/m/NdWefzG4AgAJ). There has never been any consensus

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread Mario Carneiro
Regarding the Laplace expansion more specifically: I assume that a determinant is defined over matrices M : A x A -> R, where A is a finite (unordered) set. Suppose we wish to perform cofactor expansion along row i e. A. The j'th cofactor (where j e. A) is given by the elements of M on (A\{i}) x

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread Benoit
I do not have strong opinions on this issue and I will not be the one to do the work, but I still think "starting at 0" for matrices is more natural. Of course, the more important thing is to have as many results as possible stated for arbitrary finite sets (or even arbitrary sets for some

[Metamath] Re: metamath.exe - added "/extract" to "write source"

2020-09-05 Thread 'Alexander van der Vekens' via Metamath
That's sound really great! I will try this new feature soon, using the friendship theorem as "root"... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Metamath" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread 'Alexander van der Vekens' via Metamath
As proposed by FL in https://groups.google.com/g/metamath/c/n5g69qfwBmE/m/McJAgtdSAgAJ, the additional assumption that the finite index sets are totally orderer should be sufficient to express and prove the Laplace expansion. Regarding the expression ` -1 ^ ( i + j ) ` , a special concept of

Re: [Metamath] Re: Matrix indexing start

2020-09-05 Thread 'Alexander van der Vekens' via Metamath
I think there is no consensus to use index sets starting with 1, especially not for tuples/words (actually, there was a consensus to start with 0 for words, see discussion in https://groups.google.com/g/metamath/c/UwTUuNPgaB0/m/NdWefzG4AgAJ). Regarding matrices, I am also in favour of