ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/January19.html
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Sent 5 message to the list last night, only
2 showed up. Will try the most relevant one
again:
Hi Kris,
See here, lower left picture:
http://meteorites.pdx.edu/wrong3.htm
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Hello
I will be in Vien mineral show on 28-30 January.
If anyone will be here too and would like talk about meteorites and drink
some beer so please let me know off-line.
I will be here without table, so I have alot of free time to spend.
I also plan make a trip on 29.01 to Museum and visit great
I call dibs on it!
Anita
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Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] NASA Rover Finds Meteorite on Surface of Mars
There must be
Several years ago, a friend of ours gave us the book, Men are from
Mars-Women are from Venus. When asked what she thought about the book my
wife replied, the sooner you go back where you came
from... I guess she was anticipating an event like the
current one and wanted me to
Martin wrote:
may anyone help me with some bibliographic quotations
especially about the Chacabuco piece of the North Chile
group? Bernd? Rodrigo? Master Bob himself?
Hello Martin and List,
I was unable to locate any information about Chacabuco.
Buchwald describes these localities: Coya
Buenas tardes. ¿ Que significa ventifacted · ? . Pueden responder en
lengua inglesa. Gracias.
Saludos,
Paolo Gallo.
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Dear List;
Could anyone host three pictures of 100kbs or so each or so as I am
being bombarded by requests for pictures of ventifacted banded iron
specimens.
Piece can be viewed ... (yuck, on eBay so you could actually own it
even) as I was asked by a few of you's if it was for sale.
Thanks
Dear list members,
In just a few short hours, the final pieces of NWA 2624 Pallasite-Like will
end on eBay under seller name, naturesvault. This is all that is left so if
you are interested, now is the only time to acquire some of this very unique
ureilite. Here is a link to one of them:
Buenas tardes. ¿ Que significa ventifacted · ?
Pueden responder en lengua inglesa. Gracias.
Saludos, Paolo Gallo.
Saludos, Paolo, Hello List,
This means it has been faceted, grooved, and
polished by the erosive action of wind-driven sand.
Source: Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary
Hola Martin, Bernd and List
The following eight meteorites, with total weight 266kg, identical in
structure and omposition, are now collectively known as North Chile because
exact localities are unknown. Coya Norte, Filomena, Puripica, Quillagua, Rio
Loa, San Martin, Tocopilla Union.
Chacabuco
Hola Martin, Bernd and List
The following eight meteorites, with total weight 266kg, identical in
structure and omposition, are now collectively known as North Chile because
exact localities are unknown. Coya Norte, Filomena, Puripica, Quillagua, Rio
Loa, San Martin, Tocopilla Union.
Chacabuco
Assuming that each rover has a useful sidelong glance of 75 to 100
meters to either side of their route in which they would be able to spot
a meteorite and allowing for some track reversals and turns, the total
area surveyed by the two rovers is probably about one square kilometer.
So
Hola Paolo, Ventifacted- pienso que se caracterizen las piedras mencionadas
por tener las superficies o facetas moldeadas por las tempestades de arena, o
solo por vientos abrazivos con arena o polvo Saludos
En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 11:15:40 AM Mexico Standard Time,
[EMAIL
To all who may be concerned,
Jutta Zipfel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has been appointed to succeed me as
Chair of the Meteorite Nomenclature Committee, effective
immediately. Please direct future correspondence related to the
functioning of the Committee to her instead of me. I will remain a member
http://space.com/missionlaunches/mars_meteor_050119.html
Mars Opportunity Rover Finds a Meteorite
By Leonard David
space.com
19 January 2005
Scientists have confirmed that the Opportunity Mars rover has run across
a meteorite, sitting within the robot's exploration zone at Meridiani
Planum.
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
January 13-19, 2005
The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:
o Dark Sand Dunes (Released 13 January 2005)
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/01/13/
o Dust Devils Together
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/mr_o_tech_050119.html
Hello Mars, Meet 'MR. O': The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
By Leonard David
space.com
19 January 2005
DENVER, Colo. -- The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is one giant
spacecraft, built to take unprecedented photos of the red
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I wonder if there's any way we could find out if it's related to any fall
from Earth. Odds are literally astronomical, but wouldn't it be fantastic
to find that your piece of Boxhole has a 'cousin' on Mars?
Tracy Latimer
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There is a half-ton ventifact Iron sitting in the visitor center at the
Barringer Meteorite Crater in Winslow AZ.
CharlyV
Back to the ventifact markings on the Martian rock...
There is no a priori reason why an iron meteorite can't be ventifacted.
I have never seen one though...
I have seen
Ron and List
I had sent a textmessage to the list earlier today which did not appear,
asking how the meteorite could display such ablated form in Mars thin
atmosphere. The text herein suggests the fall occured at a time of a
thicker atmosphere on Mars. Perhaps this answers my unpublished
Absolutely
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I wonder if there's any way we could find out if
Ron and List
I had sent a textmessage to the list earlier today which did not appear,
asking how the meteorite could display such ablated form in Mars thin
atmosphere. The text herein suggests the fall occured at a time of a
thicker atmosphere on Mars.
Even though Mars has a thin
Hi,
Yes, but the contrast is between ONE data point and NO data point, and
that's
a vast improvement in accuracy.
Moreover, since there was no intent on the part of the experimenters to
look for meteorites, this is perfectly defined as a truly random sample. And
random is a synonym for
And, Ron, didn't one of the Rovers actually image a meteor earlier in
the mission?
Mark
Even though Mars has a thin atmosphere, ablation still occurs. That's
why all of our Mars landers have heat shields - so that they don't burn
up in the atmosphere during descent. Opportunity has
They don't want to damage the RAT
and save it for the rest of the mission.
Well, like I pointed out last night, how about the end of the mission?
The mission will probably end when a critical component on the rover
fails, and we don't know when that will happen. Also, the Rover will
I got an email from Beda Hofmann, who wrote: I assume there should
be many small meteorites on the MER rover images Besides the new
object I have seen at least 2 candidates.
I've also seen other candidate rocks in the MER images, particularly around
some of the craters. Some of the
Yes, we need to scratch that rock.
The rock (meteorite) was brushed off before the Mossbauer and APXS
instruments were placed on it. They don't want to damage the RAT
and save it for the rest of the mission.
Ron Baalke
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Just received this URGENT email. If anyone is interested in the
meteorite described below I'll forward the seller's contact
information- ;-)
-John
Dear Sir,
Am very pleased to write to you this evening about a meteorite on sale
by us in Nairobi Kenya east Africa.the following are its
Even though I am trying to get out of collecting, I think I want this one! I
wonder what he would take for it?
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite
Paper: The Daily Independent
City: Helena, Montana
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1875
Page: 1
ON the night of 12th of February last a meteor fell near Davenport,
Iowa, that weighed seven pounds and six ounces. It was of a blackish cast,
was very hard, and a considerable per centage of it is
Yes, but the contrast is between ONE data point and NO data point, and
that's
a vast improvement in accuracy.
A sample size of one is still not adequate for statistical purposes.
Ron Baalke
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They don't want to damage the RAT
and save it for the rest of the mission.
Well, like I pointed out last night, how about the end of the mission?
-Walter
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And, Ron, didn't one of the Rovers actually image a meteor earlier in
the mission?
Yes, it did.
Ron
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Paper: The Standard
City: Albert Lea, Minnesota
Date: Thursday, June 12, 1879
Page: 2 (of 4)
Under a local news brief section, Standard Notes
- The meteor which fell in Iowa May 10th, will be exhibited in this city
next Saturday, Admission 25 cents.
(end)
Paper: The Standard
City: Albert Lea,
Paper: Star And Sentinel
City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
Date: Thursday Evening, June 12, 1879
Page: 4 (of 4)
Unearthing a Meteor.
The large meteor that was reported to have fallen near Worthington last
Saturday fell in Emmet county, Iowa, about four miles south of the State
line and fifteen
Paper: Davenport Daily Gazette
City: Davenport, Iowa
Date: Sunday Morning, February 14, 1875
Page: 8 (of 8)
The meteor of Friday night was a splendid affair to Iowa City and
Muscatine. At the latter place it was big as a bushel basket - - beyond the
former, eastward, it burst, and loud was
Looks like this is begging for an upgrade:
http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/projects/meteorobot2000/
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Hi and good evening list.I just received my COLORADO IRON METEORITEfrom
COLDZAP of ebay.The piece I got is 100.3 grams!It is very magnetic,with
hints of fusion crust all over,with the bottom having a type of dirty
varnish on it.I'll have a picture of it on my home page in a little
while.I hope to
How about a meteoroid hitting the Martian atmosphere at an almost parallel
trajectory? A Mars grazer. Could that extend it's flight and ablation time to
produce the dramatic regmaglypts?
Bill
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Ron
It should be iron ore, hematite or magnetite, not iron or iron alloy.
The banding is produced by tectonic motions and it's called folding.
I visited a swedish mine this summer where there were a lot of
banded iron ore. To get a piece off the big rock below took a lot
of work but it's a perfect way
Hi,
Yes, wind faceted (wind and sand ablation) seems to be the key feature of
relevance. If you look at photos of the alleged meteorite found on Mars,
it contains quite a few facets. And the ridges between the facets are very
sharp. I have seen hard quartzite and flint-like rocks on deserts
I just bought a few Campo slices and would appreciate any tips on the most
effective and safest
(both to me and the slices) way of etching them. Would I use the glass-etching
gel you can buy at
craft stores?
The Campo slices I bought are right here:
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Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
Gretchen
Greetings List!
We've update our Tucson Information Page and the Contact List as of 1/19/05.
Please check for accuracy and omissions or mistakes.
http://www.meteorite.com/Tucson/index.htm
I've not heard from the Labennes or Serge from Comet Meteorite Shop yet so
if anyone has their info please
With all due respect Steve
You claimed that your new meteorite is very magnetic.
That's about as annoying as the oriented - orientated debate.
From what I understand Magnetic means having the properties of a magnet.
Does your new meteorite attract Iron like a magnet?
Probably not
Dear List,
The initial articles forwarded kindly to the list mentioned that scientists
were not interested in the meteorite quite bluntly. That to me was really
a slap in the face to all of us, including the meteoritical society. After
all, the significance of the find, especially to us
Dear List Members,
on my webpage with special offers I would like to untroduce some newly
classified eucrite achondrites. At these pieces you can see how
different the appearance of the eucrites can be. Particularly NWA2483
has some interesting and unusual features. Please, enjoy.
Nick and others,
Challenging folks to provide further proof of extraordinary claims is a worth
while effort.
I applaud your comments.
I've seen the evidence of significant ridge edge erosion of granite here in PA,
and it is amazing to see the gouging affects of wind and rain.
The edges I've
Steve, you're fine. Generally with meteorites the more strongly magnetic
the specimen the more iron metal. There are some many uses of the word
magnetic in exactly the way you use it, in the Cambridge Encyclopedia of
Meteorites
that it sounds like you might be able to give Bob Evans some
Hello again list.This new piece,which is very metallic, is strongly
attracted to a magnet.Not that the new piece is magnetic.Thanks to doug
for setting me right,and no thanks for bob realizing I made a simple
mistake.
steve arnold, chicago
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Steve
Hi Doug, Steve allDoug I think you may have really hit on
something- Refrigerator Meteor-Magnets! Every refrigerator should have
a coupleYou can etch them and use them to hold up your shopping
list, chore list, etc. I think we'll start offering them on ebay in the
near future! Even
Way to go press folks Ms. Gretchen deserves a congratulations...for an
honest assessment..., now I would say meteorites are getting the respect they
deserve, and the press releases are ore in touch with reality of meteorites!!
saludos, Doug
En un mensaje con fecha 01/19/2005 5:41:19 PM
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/cassini-05p.html
Saturn Kicks Out Super-Fast Dust Streams
AFP
January 19, 2005
Paris - The US spacecraft Cassini ran into dramatic storms of dust
as it hurtled towards its rendezvous with Saturn last year, a study
published on Thursday says.
The microscopic
Sorry Little Dougie,
But here in the states Magnetic means having magnetic properties .
I think they're implying that the material attracts iron.
Have you seen a meteorite that attracts some other form of metal? Please
enlighten me, my friend south of the border
BE
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[Image]
Iron Meteorite on Mars
January 19, 2005
NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has found an iron meteorite on
Mars, the first meteorite of any type ever identified on another planet.
The pitted, basketball-size object is mostly
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050117/full/050117-5.html
Latest Titan pictures show details of geography
Mark Peplow
www.nature.com
January 18, 2005
More images from Titan have confirmed scientists' expectations that a
complicated cycle of weather is shaping the surface of Saturn's largest
Dear All,
How about an etching of Proud Tom for a refrigerator magnet!
Dave
with the magnetic personality!
John Birdsell wrote:
Hi Doug, Steve allDoug I think you may have really hit on
something- Refrigerator Meteor-Magnets! Every refrigerator should
have a coupleYou can etch them
Hi again list.I put up a picture on my homepage of this new specimen
before I sanded it down.Let me have your thoughts.It is one big piece of
metal.
steve arnold, chicago
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May I have our representative in Nigeria contact you? :-)
Tracy Latimer
Subject: [meteorite-list] Wow-NEW Meteorite from Kenya-Sounds Great!
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Hello List,
I would like to publicly congratulate NASA on the finding of the iron
meteorite. I didn't want to say anything, before NASA didthat they had
analyzed the rockalthough I must admit I didn't read all the e-mails on
the subject.
The following is from an e-mail I got from a
Steve, Bob, Doug et al,
Webster's College Dictionary says:
magnetic
1. of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism.
2. having the properties of a magnet.
3. capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet.
The list of definitions go on even further but I think #3 answers the question.
Best,
JKG
Thanks John, I like to use the word magnetic for describing a meteorite only
because I type about one word a minute and I don't think someone should have
to say it is attracted to a magnet it just takes to long. We all know what
is meant when a list member says magnetic. Magnetic, magnetic
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Hi Steve,
Good Photo! Your camera skills are improving.:)
Looks like magnetite to me.
I know you will take it to Tucson and have it checked.
best,
ken
I second magnetite, hope I am wrong Steve.
Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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From: ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL
Hello Ron. What a cool color picture that is. Is
there a possibility in the near future of a color
print being published that a person could purchase? I
for one would like to have one! Thanks for all the
info that you provide to us!
Dave
Wow! This is a much more convincing photo. Is there a HiRez color closeup?
In this image, you don't see the facets and ridges so clearly as in the
earlier one.
Most interesting...
Nick
At 06:29 PM 1/19/2005, Dave Schultz wrote:
Hello Ron. What a cool color picture that is. Is
there a
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:29:25 -0800 (PST), Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello Ron. What a cool color picture that is. Is
there a possibility in the near future of a color
print being published that a person could purchase? I
for one would like to have one! Thanks for all the
info that
I doubt that NASA has a higer-resolution version of the photo than they are releasing to the public.
Why not simply send the photo to one of the many photo printing services on the internet (like
www.dotphoto.com, www.shutterfly.com, and www.clubphoto.com) and buy a print from them? Or even
take
I have no trouble capturing, printing, editing any size photo in PhotoShop.
I'd just like to see a color image with the resolution of the first BW image.
I'd like to see it in the resolution they receive it in.
It's likely that the ones released for public consumption are lower Rez.
Are they?
Nick
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:34:08 -0800, Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to see it in the resolution they receive it in.
It's likely that the ones released for public consumption are lower Rez.
Are they?
It can never be too very high in resolution-- the CCD is only 1 megapixel:
Hi List,
I have several back issues of Astronomy 1979 to current. Also Sky Telescope
1977 to current. I would like to trade them for some meteorites or ? If anyone
is interested email me off list.
Thanks,
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The number of pixels has nothing to do with resolution. What matters is the
size of each pixel and the focal length of the camera. In the case of the
Pancam, that's 16um and 38mm, giving a resolution of about one arcminute-
slightly better than the human eye.
Chris
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:18:33 -0700, Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of pixels has nothing to do with resolution. What matters is the
size of each pixel and the focal length of the camera. In the case of the
Pancam, that's 16um and 38mm, giving a resolution of about one
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:46:07 -0500, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:18:33 -0700, Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of pixels has nothing to do with resolution. What matters is the
size of each pixel and the focal length of the camera. In the case
Hi Darren-
Replacing the Pancam sensor with, say, a 5MP array wouldn't yield better
resolution. If the physical size of the sensor were larger, you would have a
greater field of view. But even if the sensor had smaller pixels, the
resolution wouldn't increase because the simple, three element
Hello All,
I got tired of looking at the black-and-white and color photos of the
Martian Meteorite in separate windows.
So I brought them together, fiddled with them and created a 3d Stereo image.
Great fun!!!
Have a look:
http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/geog/gessler/topics/martian-meteorite.htm
I
But it isn't the correct definition in this case, because it is the optics
that is limiting the information content, not the number or density of the
pixels on the sensor.
Chris
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:08:45 -0700, Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Darren-
Replacing the Pancam sensor with, say, a 5MP array wouldn't yield better
resolution. If the physical size of the sensor were larger, you would have a
greater field of view. But even if the sensor had smaller
We had something like this in the states for a long time, I'm trying to
remember the nameOh yeah, PET ROCK!
Cj Lebel
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From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:49 PM
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Hi,
Assumption one is wrong.
Basically, the PanCam is just about as good a camera as the $19.95 Samsung
Digital Point'N'Shoot
dangling from the discount store rack. The image is 512x512 by 32 bits deep (I
presume) and that's your
one megapixel.
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