A knight in a rusty armour is better than a rogue in a golden robe.
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.
Good day.
Bob, standing firm or not-- you are talking out your rear. Everything you've
ranted about is based on falsehoods and the fake facts you or your countryman
invented. I've had a decent respect for you Bob, but this fairy-tale is an
insult. The description of Haag raping and pillaging is a over
Yes, Elton
the protective laws in Australia yielded a disastrous effect for Australian
meteorite research.
The find rates completely broke down to a level lower than in the 19th
century.
Australia has more than 600 meteorites,
but in the recent 10 years only 7 new meteorites were found.
Ooops,
of course I don't mean inhabitants of coastal Florida :-)
It was that incident, when on ebay several auctions were held by a seller,
whose ID was floridacoaster or so,
who sold forged Dhofar-lunaites, not only with an invented legend, but with
falsified certificates of the Institute of
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the clarification. I somewhat remember that incident where
someone was selling fakes, and the other rip-off artist, who actually is on
the coast.
Best regards,
Greg
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From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
To:
Hi List,
I never thought I would agree with any of these views that are critical
of the IMCA, but I must admit (unfortunately) that I have seen some
things that gives me pause about ever wanting to join again.
I was rejected on my first time around for being too new on the scene.
A few months
I seen De Russe and Co. its the same on internet sale theyr
fakes, IMCA or not IMCA. They are not vanished forever.
Matteo
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Da : Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] IMCA not a knight in
I think what the IMCA aspires to be is outstanding, and I wish the
organization good fortune as it strives to do an better job in
promoting an agenda which is of benefit to us all.
On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
Hi List,
I never thought I would agree with any of
Hello,
I want to join the IMCA. this whole thing about Evans, Casper, Matteo, etc...
is important, and I believe its for reasons like these that the IMCA was
established, to identify and extract the black cancers from among us honest
members of the meteorite community. Also it is important to
Hi Darryl,
I'm glad you wrote this back so quick, because I was mulling over what
I had said, and I think I may have come across wrong. I am not
trying to bash the IMCA. I fully support their mission to police the
meteorite marketplace and to put some measure of consistency into
the handling
Hi Elton and all,
I also talked to Bob Haag about the lunar find and your account is the same
one that Haag told me. Besides offering part of Calcalong Creek back to the
Australians, he also donated some of it for NASA for scientific research.
That was back before their was any meteorite
Hi Michael.
Every facet of your note is appreciated, and your observations and
desires are both sober and reasonable.
With warm regards...and clear skies / d,
On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
Hi Darryl,
I'm glad you wrote this back so quick, because I was mulling
When I first got into meteorites, one of the first things I did was join the
IMCA. I would agree that they are not perfect but I ask, can you think of
anything that is?
I joined becouse of what they stand for and think what they are trying to do is
a great thing an I am happy to be a member of
You Elois and we Morlocks can peaceably co-exist provided individuals
from either group don't market themselves as having a privileged
position among collectors to provide meteorites. Those traits, ethics,
are individual characteristics. Everyone has their own reasons for
wanting to join (or
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Thank you Matteo,
There are many others that agree with you that just choose not to speak up
here on list.
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From: M come Meteorite Meteorites i...@mcomemeteorite.it
To: bobe5...@comcast.net
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008
Hi Al,
yes it is a dramatic regress in Australia. Science there really suffers from
the restrictive laws.
7 meteorites in 10 years there.
Look at the picture of the day, what a fine stone Moni found.
She alone as an occasional weekend hunter in their home deserts has found
more new meteorites
Hello Martin and List,
Martin wrote,
IMCA-labels reduce the probability especially for the beginners to fall for
such sellers like the Minors, de Russes, Lindforses, Evanses,
floridacoasters of the world and the Far-East-fakes-sellers... remarkably.
Please clarify who you refer to by
if you need this meteorite cheap, here is a nice 5 g piece + micros:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpaleoasis
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From: PSRD p...@higp.hawaii.edu
To: psrdm...@soest.hawaii.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:43 PM
Subject: New Issue: Wee Rocky Droplets in Comet Dust
Announcement from Planetary Science Research Discoveries [PSRD]
New article online: Wee Rocky Droplets in
Bob Walker posted:
I'd like to hear from other Listoids who have had disagreements
with IMCA - I'm beginning to take the view that there is a bad odour
to IMCA
Dear Bob:
It always upsets me when I hear someone grumbling about the IMCA, but
thankfully that's a rare occurrence.
No
Hello lists,
thank you for the very wide discussion, which I could stimulate.
It are the greenhorns, the newcomer who purchase the most metwrongs.
But never an IMCA member should sell this shit. He should carry out the
code of ethics.
We all do mistakes but if someone do a mistake as an IMCA
Well spoken, Geoff - I fully agree to what you reasoned in
a very gentlemanly manner...
Alex
Berlin/Germany
IMCA # 0042
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Datum: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:18:56 -0700
Von: Notkin geok...@notkin.net
An: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff:
Good afternoon all.This will be my last post on the list until tucson.I have
some big projects going on so it will take me away from the list for a few
weeks.A few years ago I was told I was no longer a member of the IMCA,because
of my behaviour.I protested at first,but as time went on I
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
Well it is well underway:
37 Auctions listed at 0.99 cents, with a retail value of over
$10,000.00
and a Store wide sale on over 200 meteorite specimens from 10% to
30% off!
Go to:
http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
They are some great
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Hello List-Members,
I would like to send a few words of warning to anyone buying from Bob Evans:
First on behalf of Dr A. Ehlmann, Curator of the Monnig Collection at TCU:
He did only one trade with Bob and the pieces he gave in that trade are:
1. Beardsley, 36.7g fusion covered individual
2.
on 12/15/08 11:10 AM, steve arnold at stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote:
Good afternoon all.This will be my last post on the list until tucson.
Oh, Come on now, Steve,
Don't tease us.
Michael
Get 30% to 50% more gas mileage immediately (I did!):
I had a similar situation with Bob involving a specimen of Mooresfort. I
was told that he obtained the sample from a very reputable European dealer.
When I contacted this individual, he told me he never had any specimens of
Mooresfort.
Mark Grossman
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From:
I doubt that it would be legal to exclude anyone from bidding on your items in
a public auction. I guess we will see how that one works out soon enough.
Don Rawlings
--- On Mon, 12/15/08, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote:
From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com
Subject: Re:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:18:56 -0700, you wrote:
It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and point fingers.
Not if you are trying to type at the same time.
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Hello Anne,
To change the main subject of this thread for a moment:
You wrote: In conclusion, I have been a meteorite-dealer ten years
(exactly ten years
next week) ...
Well, Anne, I congratulate you on your 10 years annEversary of
meteorite-dealing!
My best,
Matthias Baermann
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List;
I for one fully support the IMCA and their methods of projecting integrity
and honesty into the collecting,sales and study of meteorites for the
meteorite community.It isn't a heavy handed approach but a reasoned and fair
method
of TRYING to solve some of the problems that arise in
Hi folks!
Is there a preferred easel to prop up and display small 3x4 Riker boxes?
I am building up a large number of them and I want some way to display
them on a shelf. I have tried those little clear plastic easels used
for coins and poker chips, but they are not really deep enough
and the
Michael,
Check out August 2008 Meteorite Mag.. Hall of Meteorites. Anita
Westlake has a nice (and easy) wall mount solution for her Riker boxes.
If you need a portable solution then probably your best bet is some type
of custom wood frame to hold a bunch.
Cheers!
Mike Tettenborn
Hello all I have not sold a single thing on E bay in more than a
month, that means I either have to find a job or have a real sale.
Jobs are a little tough to find right now so I decided to have a sale.
I looked at the prices and took them as low as I could go then I threw
in FREE SHIPPING
Please,
I am overwhelmed with NON meteorite-list emails.
While the discussion is perfect, I am not interested in IMCA problems.
Michael Farmer
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Hi Michael,
See the previous METEORITE Magazine - article by Dave Gheesling
On the GA Meteorite club - it has a photo of Anita Westlake's fabulous
Display in her hallway. It is exactly what you are talking about and
I have seen it in person and it knocks your socks off. It should be
While this is not directly related to meteorites it IS
applicable:
Is anyone on the list thechno-savvy (ie enough
Of a computer geek) to know how to Foreword an
Email that has attachments and INCLUDE the
Attachments in the foreword???
Occasionally I want to do this, but have had to
But this is a list for discussion of meteorite related things and the IMCA is
meteorite related. In my opinion, this has been a good discussion and is more
welcomed then the normal ads that I am flooded with from here.
I welcome the non ad based meteorite related posts and wish the owner of this
Michael x 2,
Anita's article you're referring to was back in the August 2008 Meteorite
issue, and I recall that she had a bit of a diagram in her article with
measurements, pointers from the construction learning curve and the like.
Very cool exhibit, indeed. The Meteorite Association of Georgia
Hi, Michael,
First, save the attached file to a handy HD somewhere.
Then, create the Forward copy. Then Attach the
saved attachment to the copy to be forwarded. Send it.
Sterling K. Webb
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From:
Greg, I stand corrected. As I read through them, they are not actually IMCA
business, but meteorite related affairs, and I agree, they are relevant. I am
just leaving Tokyo to go home for all of two days, then off to the arctic to
enjoy some 30 below weather for a white Christmass.
Tucson is
What about the signs in a lot of store windows that say:
We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone
Pete
IMCA 1733
- Original Message -
From: Don Rawlings psc241...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:47 PM
Subject: Re:
Greg and List,
I agree. Many dealers udse this list as advertisment.
In my mind too this is not the sense of such a list.
Uwe (spell ew ve)
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Von: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
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Verschickt: Di., 16. Dez.
Dear List,
The following message is from Ruben who was unable to post to the list.
Open Invitation to Hunt Meteorites In Holbrook
Hi all,
A few friends and myself are going to be hunting meteorites in Holbrook on Dec
27-28. Timing may be bad as these dates are obviously between Xmas and New
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