Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Meteorites USA
What exactly is your point? (rhetorical of course) Who's the one with the problem? The one who apologizes for some of the things they've done, or the one who points out the faults of others and consistently posts negative comments and BS with an obvious prejudice that no one wants to read,

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Greg Catterton
I just would like to add something to this... My experience with Chicago Steve has ALWAYS been good. He has given me many freebies and has also purchased from me, but yet has NEVER asked for anything in return. No discounts, no special deals, nothing. I have bought from him, received the

Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-20 Thread Aid Mohamed
Hello List; As a Maroccan dealer; I'm very disappointed to hear what Greg said; be sure if you continue on this way you will be the first loser; , if you have a particular aim, so lets tell us: please don't beat about the bush! also it's impossible to sell just for you lonely, because you

[meteorite-list] AD: Sahara 99704; large 2316g chondrite for sale; nice crust

2009-12-20 Thread Rob Lenssen
Dear List, I have a special and large unclassified chondrite for sale. Good crust and nice shape! This 2316g stone has been in my collection since 1999, when I bought it at the Gifhorn Meteorite Fair, from the Labennes, the finders of this stone. Please feel free to make me an - off List -

Re: [meteorite-list] AD abuse?

2009-12-20 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Mike J. Michael C, Mike J. - My deepest apologies if what I stated sounded as though I were condemning you in any way for your passing on the message as you were asked. I was simply stating that doing so MAY be a contravention of Art's having blocked MC for his abundance of

[meteorite-list] Reward...

2009-12-20 Thread Dave Gheesling
All, I'm searching for an original copy of W.M. Foote's 1912 Holbrook monograph: Preliminary Note on the Shower of Meteoric Stones at Aztec, near Holbrook, Navajo County, Arizona. Offering $100 to the first list member connecting me with a resource where I can purchase one...OFF LIST please.

Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-20 Thread Ahmad bouragaa
hi List: In fact, the aim of  meteorite List is like a platform of exanching ideas, crucial information about meteorite ...etc.but the atitude of Greg is not to provide informations ,so  the meteorite list for him it 's considered like  a place  for  insulting  Moroccan dealers  ! my be if  some

[meteorite-list] Moroccan sub-Standards

2009-12-20 Thread Greg Hupe
Moroccans, One quick statement: You guys are just pissed that you have been called out. If you insist on offering your wares to 'meteorite' collectors, do so in the same standards as the rest of the world! I am upset because you guys have a chance to do it right, yet you continuously choose

[meteorite-list] Tahoka and Met-Bul listings via Ted Bunch

2009-12-20 Thread McCartney Taylor
Fear not, Pete. I recovered the Tahoka from a farmer who found it hoeing. If you search google, you'll find my field trip report on it. It was submited to NAU via Ted Bunch along with many other of my meteorite finds. However, several years have passed and the only meteorite that has made the

Re: [meteorite-list] Tahoka and Met-Bul listings via Ted Bunch

2009-12-20 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:36:38 -0600, you wrote: Fear not, Pete. I recovered the Tahoka from a farmer who found it hoeing. He would have reported it sooner, but it was doing such a good job with the hoe... __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] NWAs; a little more civil discussion, please

2009-12-20 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - We see adds for unclassified NWAs by the kilo. Clearly the Moroccans would like to be able to directly sell unclassified NWAs mentioning possible classes. I am pretty certain that when finders come in with stones for them, they have to make eyeball determinations. Can not some

[meteorite-list] NWAs; a little more civil discussion, please

2009-12-20 Thread habibi abdelaziz
Hi all - grondine wrote We see adds for unclassified NWAs by the kilo. Clearly the Moroccans would like to be able to directly sell unclassified NWAs mentioning possible classes. - no, they are from 15 year selling unclassified nwa nothing has changed , see the

[meteorite-list] YD impacts: Firestone responds

2009-12-20 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - http://anthropology.net/2009/12/16/more-clovis-comet-debate-and-a-response-from-dr-richard-firestone-2/ Note the clear referee bias. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread GREG LINDH
Hi Greg, I agree with your assessment. Chicago Steve may be a little odd, but who of us isn't. I have gotten a couple of free meteorites from him and I'm thankful to Steve for that. Instead of his constant complaints about someone like Steve, who has a child like quality to him in

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 20, 2009

2009-12-20 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_20_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread GeoZay
I agree with your assessment. Chicago Steve may be a little odd, but who of us isn't. I have gotten a couple of free meteorites from him and I'm thankful to Steve for that. Instead of his constant complaints about someone like Steve, who has a child like quality to him in his quest to

Re: [meteorite-list] AD : New gorgeous CO3

2009-12-20 Thread cdtucson
Greg, Aziz is a well respected dealer who regularly contributes to this list in a very positive way. With respect to you here; if Dr. Irving told him what he has, then that is good enough for me. I am quite sure that Dr. Irving's opinion is good enough But, if you require O isotopes in order

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Guy Heinen
Hi Greg L and Greg C, I agree 100% with you. Bill, the time for writing your long e-mail must have cost you at least one hour and enough energy to press several thousand times the 'delete' button for e-mails that you don't want to read. Guy Heinen Am 20.12.2009 um 22:15 schrieb GREG

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Gary Fujihara
During this glorious holiday season, is it not better to spread good cheer and positive messages to our brethren of meteorite collectors? I for one think so. So, I would like to take this moment to celebrate the Birthdays of the wondrous falls of Woolgorong (1960), Tamdakht (2008), and ... oh

[meteorite-list] Ad - Auctions and Stocking Stuffers

2009-12-20 Thread Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread MstrEman
Dear Guy I think Bill serves the community at large to remind the list and newbies who know nothing about the real Steve-- so, sorry I strongly disagree that we should all use the delete button. Steve has contaminated our collections with his fake/mislabeled/ relabeled specimens. Conversely

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2009-12-20 Thread Doogle1953
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Re: [meteorite-list] Please Cancel Subscription

2009-12-20 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I am looking more for astrological events Astrological events : http://www.cainer.com Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;) Best regards and Merry Xmas, MikeG On 12/21/09, Doogle1953 doogle1...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you for your quick aproval and activation. I have found that this is not the

[meteorite-list] Happy Holidays and Peace on the List

2009-12-20 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Listees! I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a Happy Festivus. May your stockings be filled with space rocks. :) Let's keep the bickering off the List, at least until after the holidays. Many Moroccans are honest dealers. Some Americans are dishonest dealers.

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread MstrEman
Again --I believe this to be a service-- 7 years of repeated misbehavior should show a permanent pattern of un-trustworthiness and and a total failure to become trustworthy--Yet many of you continue to buy from HIM based on HIS word alone that you are getting what you paid for. Many have come

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Gary Chase
It took a while to wade through all the historical posts as I am relatively new member. Until now, I just thought he was a harmless goof. Now, I see that there is a pattern of behavior that leads me to belive that he has a mental problem and can not help himself. So go easy. I would

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread GeoZay
I would compare the freebies to the neighborhood crack dealer that gives your your first high for free. Now you are hooked. Hooked on what...to receive more freebies? I hope he sends me more then. :O) GeoZay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread dave carothers
Amen!!! Dave - Original Message - From: MstrEman mstre...@gmail.com To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word. Again --I believe this

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Gary Chase
No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free crack. Then after you loose your job, family and end up living on the streat, you realize there is no such thing as a freebie. All freebies come with a price. The question to be asked is what is the price? My integrity? Gary

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread dave carothers
Well said. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Dave - Original Message - From: Gary Chase garych...@live.com To: meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Greg Stanley
Guys: Yea – I continuously email Steve begging for freebies… sweating and hyperactive until he sends me more… “come on,” how can you equate drugs to meteorites. I have received a few freebies from Steve and a some are nice specimens, and I gave some away myself to a friend of my wife’s: who

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread GeoZay
??No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free crack. But he's not giving me crack...just a meteorite. The same thing you and most people on this list purchase. Are you actually saying that crack and meteorites are equally bad? Then after you loose your job, family and

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread GeoZay
Well said. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Lets seefollowing this parody the dogs are those who distribute meteorites (fleas)...whether they are given to you for no cost or a dealer that sells them to you? GeoZay __

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Darryl Pitt
Thank goodness there are no freebie-giving Moroccans. On Dec 20, 2009, at 8:05 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote: ??No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free crack. But he's not giving me crack...just a meteorite. The same thing you and most people on this list

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread MeteorHntr
Hey list, Just a little note...for the record...for those that are not aware, there are two Steve Arnold individuals in the meteorite world. One is: 1. Steve Arnold, who lives in Arkansas, who also is the co-host (along with Geoff Notkin) of Science Channel's TV series Meteorite Men

[meteorite-list] Beijing China Meteor 16DEC09

2009-12-20 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, It seems now confirmed so am posting: Latest Worldwide Meteor/Meteorite News: 21DEC09 Meteor/Meteorite News By LunarMeteorite*Hunter Meteor hunt in Beijing continues. China Daily Witnesses in Beijing and nearby Tianjin recorded a clearly visible fireball-like meteorite descending

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi GeoZay and others, From what I've seen from Steve over the last 2 years (that's how long I've been on the list), he has been a good, upstanding citizen of the Met list, although yes, he has waay too many ads. But, I have seen other e-mails on this list that say that he is a cheater. For

Re: [meteorite-list] NWAs; a little more civil discussion, please

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi all, This is getting tiring. How about we do this Greg Hupe contacts the Moroccan's that he has problems with and tries to reconcile with them the problems that he has had. Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Dave Gheesling
Yes Bob. And if said allegations were true, then it would not be an individual who's integrity was diminished by accepting such freebies...but rather the integrity of his collection. Authenticity, provenance, integrity...absolutely paramount to this arena. Dave -Original Message- From:

Re: [meteorite-list] NWAs; a little more civil discussion, please

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Loeffler
Sorry, I think my last e-mail got sent before I was done... After Greg Hupe contacts the Moroccan's who he has a problem with, if he doesn't get resolutions that he expects, then he should let all of us know who is involved, what happened and why he is still angry. I'm sure he has tried this

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

2009-12-20 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi Dave, Exactly. If Chicago Steve is misrepresenting his freebies (or the ones that he sells), that could affect a lot of people's collections. This goes for everyone, not just Steve. Bob -Original Message- From: Dave Gheesling [mailto:d...@fallingrocks.com] Sent: Sunday, December