Hello Listers,
I had been watching an item on eBay for the past few day which ended last
night. The item was a book from Dr LaPaz estate and here is a link to the
auction for all you Listers that lov histroy on meteorites.
Jason, all,
Re - my PDF catalog: I didn't issue any new one since my website went online.
For a bound catalog, it will wait a few years...
BTW, I updated yesterday my page on Villalbeto de la Pena (pictures, maps...)
if you want to take a look:
Hello Arnaud, All,
An excellent page...nice job.
On a sidenote - I'm curious; what does Villalbeto de la Pena sell for?
As a comparable fall in terms of recovered fragments and TKW, it
seems as though it should be about the same price as Whetstone
Mountains. I just haven't seen enough Villalbeto
http:www.rocksfromspace.org/March_22_2010.html
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Catching up... the last for 09! ;-)
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/december2009.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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OMG!!! ASU will soon be able to start their own paper recycling
plant! ;-)
Cheers,
Jeff
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From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:20 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of
Fantastic. This belongs in a book. The meteorite lore of the future.
Separately, to those who have reached out to me the past week or so,
my apologies for not having gotten back to you as yet. An all-
consuming family matter arose and I just returned to NYC and will
return
Hi List!
Are any of the other dealers noticing a big increase in emails from
unknown people wanting you to ID their suspected meteorite or buy
their suspected meteorite?
In the last couple of weeks, I have gotten a flood of emails from
people around the country and the world - all wanting me to
Aloha -
Amazingly, Hawaii IS part of the USA and uses the USPS - so, shipping (USPS) to
Hawaii, for the past few decades has been the same as to the other 49 states!!!
(yes, UPS is over priced!)
We've been a state for just over 50 years...
BTW, you can even use USPS to American Samoa,
Just a quick note as to a good reason why the meteorite men show is so good for
all of us - a message from an ebay member:
I found the new show Meteorite Men on the Science Channel and have become
very curious about meteorites
This is bringing new collectors every showing!
I get this email
A lot of viewers are clinging to the hope they will become overnight
millionaires. Most of them will not listen when you tell them their prized new
Moon rock is a piece of quartz or their new Pallasite is nothing more then
slag. They will become increasingly angry when you try to explain why.
I regret to say at one point I contributed to that stack. At least I was
fairly sure what I had was a meteorwrong and my expectations were low; all I
wanted was to confirm the bogosity as reflected in my cover letter. The seller
has since left ebay under a cloud.
Best!
Tracy Latimer
the media focuses too much on the monetary aspect of meteorite collecting. It
out weighs any educational benefit this type of show may have provided (Adam
Hupé)
I couldn't agree with you more, Adam
Best regards
Martin
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Adam Hupe
I agree with you Adam. As much as the Meteorite Men show has provided better
awareness to meteorites in the general population, it has also spurred the
conmen and get-rich-quick schemers.
I think the show has been steered by producers to make it more appealing to
viewers, but in doing so
I would agree that a few shows on historic and educational outreach would be a
good thing, but Im sure they probably have rather limited input on the
direction of the show. That said, I would like to hear them comment of the
possibilities of doing more in this area.
The show is a great tool to
We have not been inundated at the IfA like Laurence at ASU (see today's
RFSPoD), but certainly have noticed an increase in rock submissions and email
and phone inquiries. This in addition to all the suspect material on ebay, and
I would say that the show has been successful in bringing better
A lot of viewers are clinging to the hope they will become overnight
millionaires.
With this being said, I can't help thinking that the new buyers and
collectors now have the mindset that they will have to pay a little more if
they
wanted a meteorite of their own from a dealer.
GeoZay
Thank you for that response Ted. But true as your statement may be, it still
appears as though we in Hawaii live in a third world country by the rates
imposed by couriers to ship simple packages to and from us. Arrrgh!
gary
On Mar 22, 2010, at 6:23 AM, ted brattstrom wrote:
Aloha -
Hi Adam, List,
You really have to take the bad with the good when talking about
anything... Most of this can all be summed up in one word. Ratings. It's
an unfortunate truth that most people don't like to be educated.
People want to be entertained.
When you concentrate on the education you
Hi Ya'll:
As President of the Meteorite Association of Georgia, I have seen a recent
increase in interest in meteorites as witnessed by more people joining our
group, more people coming to our individual lectures, etc.
And yes, more uninformed but hopeful people swearing the rock they found
Hey Eric.
I have to disagreed with you on some of your points.
Overall I do agree with you that the program has increased the awareness of
meteorites and has probably grown the collector base a little so far. I suspect
that the base will probably grow even more as the show continues in reruns.
Hello List Members:
This past weekend I attended a rock and mineral show here in Bakersfield, CA
and I noticed two things. First: More vendors are selling (and are more
knowledgeable of) meteorites now compared to the past. I spoke to a number of
people and they had classifications on some
Dear List,
I guess I am a realist. I saw my last passion, Treasure Hunting destroyed by a
few feeding the pigeons (the press.) At first, the news they reported was
exciting. Later the press seemed to focus on the uglier side of the avocation
with time realizing better ratings. They seemed to
Hi Richard, List,
I don't think you're actually disagreeing with me totally. ;) The
Science Channel is in fact about science, but...
Your comment ...However, to say that the producers had to emphasis the
monetary value of meteorites as much as they do just to get the ratings
is non-sense.
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:51:09 -0700, you wrote:
When you concentrate on the education you lose a large portion of the
viewing audience. For the Meteorite Men show to work they had to make
some sacrifices for the benefit of the probable success of the show.
Or, even more to the point-- the
Greetings Mike and all,
Good topic and I want to comment on it. Not aimed at anyone person, but
perhaps aimed at new dealers or collectors who might want to try to
identify meteorites.
It is important to not dismiss samples too quickly when checking them
out. Going through the proper tests
Eric
Actually The Onion is a humor site:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/chickenshit-asteroid-veers-away-at-last-minute,2722/
I think we are in agreement about the emphasis of the value of meteorites in
the episodes, but I disagree about how important that is to get and keep an
audience. I
Yes - unfortunate, but true. If they do not get the audience (cha-ching), then
the shows will not last. Look at the shows Pawn Stars and now American
Pickers. They are similar to Antiques Roadshow, but really focus on the
monetary value of items and how much profit can be made. But that's
--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:
You want educational programming? Go with PBS.
Even they have been failing that.
Compare NOVA today from those made in the 80s. The programs made back then were
usually head and shoulders above the level of today's
Darren,
Thank you once again for keeping things in perspective.
The meteorite Men are great and so is the show. Whatever happens. Period. Thank
you Steve and Geoff. It's all good. And for those of you who no longer want to
help newbies, please feel free to refer them to me. I am more than happy
However, today's programs are better than they were 5 or 10 years ago.
Back then Nova SUCKED. I wouldn't even waste the electricity to be tuned
in to Nova back then...
We must have watched the same programs. :O)
GeoZay
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Dear Richard, Eric all,
Science, science, science That is what most people think about
Or focus on with meteorites - and that is absolutely great, HOWEVER,
There are many other aspects of appeal re meteorites, and I am not talking
About monetary value.
I went through a variety
the media focuses too much on the monetary aspect of meteorite collecting. It
out weighs any educational benefit this type of show may have provided (Adam
Hupé)
Those instant, and might I add very optimistic, appraisals of cash value are
the program's raison d'tere. Like was famously said in
Hi I wanted to say hello and also show off my new hunting tool. I am mostly a
gold nugget hunter and I have had this setup on my mind for some time now to
clear the junk metal prior to detecting for nuggets. But then I watched a
recent TV show. You all know which one. And it hit me that this
Al,
Brilliantly stated.
look no farther than Almahatta sitta. It's crust is wrong (some pieces have
crusts with holes in them while others have no crust) . It's SG weight is wrong
(most meteorites feel heavy whereas most of these do not) . It's morphology and
texture are wrong ( most
Hey list,
Interesting topic. I thought I would change the Subject Line though.
Let me give you guys a little behind the scenes understanding of what happens
in the making of Meteorite Men.
There is a production company that owns the show by the name of LMNO
Productions. They have been around
All:
I took another look at all these boxes... and thought... what if the first
Lunar from North America appeared. It could happen. The more people looking
and getting stones checked, I think more meteorites will be discovered.
Greg S.
To:
Thank you for the insight, Steve.
I had a feeling the instant field appraisals were not instigated by you and
Geoff.
Keep up the good work, and good luck scoring a season 2.
Linton
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From: meteorh...@aol.com
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com;
All,
I have gotten a number of private responses to my inquiry. It seems that no one
who answered has used a on demand printing company to publish a catalog in the
way I was thinking but some have done something similar at their local Kinkos
using a spiral bindng.
Thanks to everyone who took
Hi Jason,
I made a very similar device a few years ago. You can see it here:
http://illinoismeteorites.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?num=1208722522
Jim K
Jason wrote:
Hi I wanted to say hello and also show off my new hunting tool. I am mostly a
gold nugget hunter and I have had this setup on
Hello listoids,
Do any of you here recommend any online auction sites that have that have low
sell/insertion fees and have PayPal available as a payment option?
Thanks
---
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
Unclassified meteorites are like
Hello listoids,
Do any of you here recommend any online auction
sites that have that have low sell/insertion fees and have PayPal
available as a payment option?
Thanks
---
Melanie
IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
Unclassified meteorites are like
I thought the last paragraph (quoted below) seemed interesting-
possibly another meteorite series?
Mike
A film crew from the National Geographic Channel filmed
McCausland's work in Grimsby on Friday and Saturday as part of a TV
episode called Space Fireballs, which is part of the National
Hi Listees,
I recently scored this vintage Meteor Crater brochure and it's
obviously older than I am, it's undated. Can anyone tell me what year
(or thereabouts) this brochure was made or first used? I am assuming
from the look of it and what it says, that it must be late 1950's,
maybe early
Dear List,
What is the meaning of Recovered by? Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Hello Listers,
Today has been a busy day about the topic of money and meteorites. I have more
of a science question and hope someone could answer my question. I was reading
an article tonight about NWA 869 and it said that the samples yielded a
terrestrial age of 4.4 kyr. What does the kyr
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:07:59 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
age of 4.4 kyr. What does the kyr stand for and is this another way of
saying years? The article goes on to say that the
Kiloyears.
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Regards,
Eric
On 3/22/2010 10:13 PM, Darren Garrison wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:07:59 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
age of 4.4 kyr. What does the kyr stand for and is this another way of saying
years? The article goes on to say that the
Kiloyears.
Shawn,
4.4 kyr is 4,400 years. K=1000
Regards,
Steve
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--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
wrote:
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about terrestrial
age of 4.4 kyr
To:
Mike,
Never seen one before, so can't help you there, but sweet piece of memorabilia.
Regards,
Steve
Steve Witt
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--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Subject:
Hi, Shawn,
The abbreviation kyr stands for kiloyear or
units of 1,000 years. 4.4 kyr = 4,4000 years.
Slightly different, mya means million years
ago. The term aeon or eon is often used
to mean a stretch of one billion years.
All these terms are unofficial and used for
convenience, not like the
A quick search on Yahoo yielded the following:
http://www.route66university.com/photos/souvenir8/slides/mcrater_bro.html
Dennis
On Mar 22, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Steve Witt wrote:
Mike,
Never seen one before, so can't help you there, but sweet piece of
memorabilia.
Regards,
Steve
Steve
Greetings list,
I recently acquired a nice specimen of Gao showing some typical weathering. I
was told the stone could be cleaned by soaking it in a weak solution of oxalic
acid and demineralized water and then brushing it gently with a soft iron
(brass) brush. Has anyone on the list had any
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:07:59 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
terrestrial age is consistent with the low degree of weathering
(W1). I am guessing 4.4 kyr means 4.4 years from the low level
BTW, if 869 had fallen just 4.4 years before it was found, there would be camels
that are still running today.
All these terms are unofficial and used for
convenience, not like the metric terms, like
meter, decimeter, centimeter, millimeter, etc.,
that are official.
mya is also a bit confusing since the SI unit for year is a; mya is more
formally written Ma ago; kyr is formally written ka.
Chris
Darren,
I would have to agree with you on that NWA 869 would have been a massive light
show 4,400 years ago (Thank you everyone :) that answer my question) because it
represents one of the largest finds in the Saharan desert. The total weight so
far that has been recovered is about 7 metric
Darren,
I would have to agree with you on that NWA 869 would have been a massive light
show 4,400 years ago (Thank you everyone :) that answer my question) because it
represents one of the largest finds in the Saharan desert. The total weight so
far that has been recovered is about 7 metric
Hi Steve,
I wouldn't use acid, or a strong alkaline for that matter, on a meteorite
except when doing an etch. Here is how I would handle your Gao. Remember, There
are a dozen ways to clean a specimen...this is just my way. You'll get more.
1. Wash meteorite in extremely hot de-mineralized
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