Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread dave carothers
It wouldn't be practical to melt meteorites to make musket balls. That's not to say that iron meteorites couldn't be used as ammunition just as they are. The blunderbuss had a large enough bore and muzzle to accpt smaller meteorites as is. In fact it wasn't uncommon for users of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread Greg Hupe
Wasn't there a scene in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where the dudes shoved a bunch of metallic objects into the canon and fired it at the opposing ship hitting one of the more hapless pirates in his wooden eye with a fork! - Original Message - From: dave carothers

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread dave carothers
I never saw the movie, but there are plenty of historical references to cannoneers using scrap of all kinds (metal, glass, rocks, gravel, lengths of chain, etc.). The common commercially-made equivalent ammunition was grapeshot and canister rounds. Getting hit with grapeshot or a canister

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread Meteorites USA
Melting point of Iron: (Fe) 1811 [or 1538 °C (2800 °F)] K http://www.webelements.com/iron/physics.html hehehehe iron balls... ;) Eric On 7/27/2010 10:51 PM, countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Bill says ...just about any firearm. Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread Steve Dunklee
thats the melting point for pure iron. The Ni works like antifreeze and lowers the melting range about 50 degrees. I bet if i straped some magnets on my armadillo she could dig up some meteorites a lot faster than Speedy! On Wed Jul 28th, 2010 2:57 AM EDT Meteorites USA wrote: Melting point of

Re: [meteorite-list] Slow Classifications

2010-07-28 Thread Jeff Grossman
I know the status of two: The Lorton, Va., meteorite is being delayed due to the lack of a type specimen. The meteorite that fell in Wisconsin will be considered by the NomCom very soon. Jeff On 7/27/2010 10:19 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Listees! Does anyone have any

Re: [meteorite-list] Jeff Grossman - Slow Classifications

2010-07-28 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Jeff, That is good news. If you know, can you inform us what the status is of NWA 5743 in terms of the process of classification? RSVP Thanks, Michael PS: For those few on the list that may not already Know this, Jeff Grossman was the head of the Nomenclature

[meteorite-list] Not a Meteorite - Still An Impressive impactor

2010-07-28 Thread Paul H.
This hailstone is not a meteorite. Still I would not want either me or my car to where it fell. Heavy hailstone may smash U.S. record Giant ice chunk fell near Vivian last week by Jeff Martin,Sioux Falls Argus Leader http://www.argusleader.com/article/20100728/NEWS/7280302/1001 The hailstone

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 28, 2010

2010-07-28 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_28_2010.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] AD NWA 5363

2010-07-28 Thread cdtucson
List, Ending tonight. NWA 5363 Brachinite-like Un-grouped Achondrite. One still at .99 cents. Possible Earth-Related meteorite. Definitely Rare. This along with it's pairings is about as rare as it gets. One find of it's kind in over 39,000-ish unique finds. This and / or it's brother NWA

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 28, 2010 Congratulations to All

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Webb
Michael and list, Thanks for the photos of these distinguished members of The Meteoritical Society. Congratulations are in order to Hiroshi Takeda for his work toward a better understanding of HED achondrites and the lunar crust; to William K. Hartmann for his work on impact cratering

Re: [meteorite-list] Zunhua Classification

2010-07-28 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear Jeff, All, Since we are talking about recent meteorite fall classifications, I wonder if anyone knows the status of the Zunhua (May 2008) meteorite. I found this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/23425472/Brief-document-on-Zunhua-meteorite If you scroll down, it states that the BP (Beijing

[meteorite-list] Quick Ebay Note - Leaving Town Until The 6th

2010-07-28 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, Just a quick note to let those who have purchased items from me on eBay and have not yet paid for them know that I will be leaving town tomorrow night and will return on August 6th. I will be able to ship items paid for by tomorrow morning. Any items paid for after this

Re: [meteorite-list] Zunhua Classification

2010-07-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Mike and List, Good question, and thanks for reminding me about Zunhua, I had completely forgotten about that one and need to add it to my Recent Falls page. What was the date on that fall? In the case of Zunhua, it's a little more understandable why the data has not been submitted - things

[meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if you Dare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
1) When did you start collecting? (how long ago) 2) What first interested you about meteorites? 3) What was your first meteorite purchase, and from whom? 4) How many meteorites or localities do you currently have in your collection? 5) If you had to know for insurance purposes, what do you

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Arlene Schlazer
- Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:29 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :) 1) When did you start

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if you Dare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Thunder Stone
My Answers from Greg S. Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if you Dare. :) 1) When did you start collecting? Started in 1997 2) What first interested you about meteorites? Since I was little, I like racks and fossils and my brother liked astronomy so a

[meteorite-list] Dawn Journal - July 26, 2010

2010-07-28 Thread Ron Baalke
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_07_26_10.asp Dawn Journal Dr. Marc Rayman July 26, 2010 Dear Dawn Days of Summers, Dawn is flying smoothly through the asteroid belt, now less than a year from entering orbit around Vesta, the first of its two cosmic destinations. Earlier in July,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Altmann
1) 30 years ago 2) The interest in astronomy the fascination to be able to touch a piece of a celestial body (other than mine) with my very hands. 3) A Mundrabilla individual from Pope Walter Zeitschel 4) Not countless, but I never count them. 5) Meteorites get a monetary value only, if they

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Firearms Trivia ...was Meteorites as Ammunition

2010-07-28 Thread MEM
Well firearms have been made from meteorites. It is reported that much of the huge Cosby Creek, TN(iron) was smelted into iron used in the famous Kentucky and Pennsylvania Long rifles. Elton - Original Message Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share ifyouDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Martin, once a famous Chinese Zen-abbot cut a cat into two parts to get his monks on the right way of meditation. Hope you wouldn't slice your cats together with the hammered house plus interior. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil crater website

2010-07-28 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi All, Been having trouble posting to the list so this topic was a while back but finally Just uploaded some photos of my 1.2kg Gebel Kamil with evidence of remnant fusion crustthe only piece I could find in Ensisheim.anyone else found similar? Thanks for pointing out the website

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil crater website

2010-07-28 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Does anyone know if the large Gebel Kamil main mass individual with regmaglypts was found on the surface or was buried and how close to the crater? Just thinking that the shrapnel pieces would have landed on the surface after exploding from the crater a a much lower velocity than

[meteorite-list] Meteorite lands during cricket match

2010-07-28 Thread mail
True? Matt http://www.theage.com.au/world/from-deep-space-to-deep-midwicket-meteorite-lands-on-cricket-pitch-during-county-game-20100726-10ryj.html Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share ifyouDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Matthias, there you can see, that excessive meditation makes one's brain soft. In an adaption of another famous abbot I say: A life without cats is possible, though futile. Ehm but we must turn back to meteorites. With the Lost city dog and the Peace River coyote... it is everything else than

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands during cricket match

2010-07-28 Thread star_wars_collector
No way. The sample in the photo I saw is far too weathered to be fresh, and to hit him in the chest? Nope. I don't think there is any truth to it. Surely, even from a bounce it would have left some kind of mark. Think about the old lady who was indirectly hit - that was after it went through

[meteorite-list] Aliens attacking man with meteorites

2010-07-28 Thread dean bessey
I am sure that somebody will get a kick out of this: http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite lands during cricket match

2010-07-28 Thread Chris Peterson
Some of it doesn't sound too far off reasonable, but from their description it had a significant horizontal velocity component. Any real meteorite would drop from almost directly overhead, with little or no horizontal component. Chris * Chris L Peterson

[meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Thunder Stone
Wow - that's only 72 years from now... Don't think I'll be around Greg S. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/28/massive-asteroid-hit-earth-warn-scientists/?test=faces Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182 A large asteroid in space that has a remote chance of slamming

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earthin 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Chris Peterson
Martian years, maybe... Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:23 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if you Dare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
To answer my own questions : 1) When did you start collecting? (how long ago) A little over 4 years ago. 2) What first interested you about meteorites? I have always been an avid amateur astronomer, so after years of observing objects in space, I wanted to own a few. 3) What was your first

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and ShareifyouDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Yeah, soft and flexible, no difference between the cat, the abbot and a meteorite! Well, and a pissed off meteorite immediately would pose the old question: can we expect life out there? Viva, Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread countdeiro
15 months ago. Newbie! A picture I saw in a newspaper of Dr. Donald Brownlee of NASA holding NWA 5000 over his head with both hands and a big smile on his face. I bought my first meteorite from Robert Cucchiara (Meteorite Madness)in May of 2009. A triple cut and etched 2.7 kilo Campo with

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
Wow what a sham(e). A friend asked me about this earlier today but he cited a British rag. I told him that the British tabloids still report this sensationalistic crap every so often but the media in the US has figured out to ignore it. Well at least most of them have. A quick explanation:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread countdeiro
Hi List, I forgot to answer if I could have any meteorite from any collection in the world. What would it be? I think I'd like to have the great Wilamette iron stuck on a concrete plinth in the middle of my front lawn. The kids could play on and in it. Count Deiro IMCA 3536

Re: [meteorite-list] Aliens attacking man with meteorites

2010-07-28 Thread mckinney trammell
now that is some hi-content stuff. --- On Wed, 7/28/10, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Aliens attacking man with meteorites To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 5:58 PM I am sure

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread GREG LINDH
Hi Greg, I really suck at math, even so, I believe that would be 172 years from now, not 72, so you definitely won't be around. Greg From: stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010

[meteorite-list] 1999 RQ36 V.I.

2010-07-28 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Richard/List, I just added three more positions for this V.I. taken from Haleakala on September 12, 2005. The observations are bracketed by a pair of positions from Pulkovo taken on 9/10 and four more on 9/13 from Catalina Sky Survey, so I don't expect the impact probabilities to be altered

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread almitt2
Hi Greg and Greg, 72 years or 172 years, if you are around you'll wish you'd taken better care of yourself. :-) --AL Mitterling Quoting GREG LINDH gee...@msn.com: Hi Greg, I really suck at math, even so, I believe that would be 172 years from now, not 72, so you definitely won't be

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Urgent Sale: Zacatecas

2010-07-28 Thread Impactika
Hello again, The Zacatecas has been sold!! Thank you all very much. Anne Black In a message dated 7/27/2010 6:19:54 PM Mountain Daylight Time, impact...@aol.com writes: Hello List Members, I really don't do this very often, but... One of my customers has asked me to sell quickly

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply
Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society - Original Message - 1) When did you start collecting? (how long ago)May 2009 2) What first interested you about meteorites?I could actually hold something from space!! 3) What was your first meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earthin 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Stuart McDaniel - Action Shooting Supply
Not a mathematician are you?? LOL..it's 172 years. Bet that will make a nice strewn field!!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 20 Questions - Answer and Share if youDare. :)

2010-07-28 Thread al mitt
Greetings, Mike and all, 14) Statistics have caught up with someone. Anne Hodges will no longer be the only documented person to be struck by a falling meteorite. Assuming the next person struck could be anyone and you could pick that person, who would it be? (silly answers only, nothing

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb
List, Greg, Richard, The study Fox News is citing may be a new one or it may be this one from a year ago, (one author of which is Sansaturio), which is downloadable at: http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.3631 101955 1999 RQ36 has a poorly determined composition and shape. It has been frequently

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
Sterling K. Webb wrote: List, Greg, Richard, The study Fox News is citing may be a new one or it may be this one from a year ago, (one author of which is Sansaturio), which is downloadable at: http://arxiv.org/abs/0901.3631 101955 1999 RQ36 has a poorly determined composition and shape. It has

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could HitEarthin 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Sterling K. Webb
List, Stuart, An eight-mile complex crater with a depth of about a half-mile. Will take 100% casualties out to about 35 miles and 70% casualties out to 60 miles. High-speed ejecta 1 cm and up will reach out to about 100 miles. Within the inner 75-mile-diameter circle, expect the destruction of

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could Hit Earth in 2182

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
Richard Kowalski wrote: Of course, and obviously the funding question is not missed on me. However, no one is served by sensationalistic reporting. A realistic approach is to continue optical and radar observations as the orbital mechanics allow, and then fund and launch the OSIRIS-Rex

Re: [meteorite-list] Scientist Warns Massive Asteroid Could HitEarthin 2182

2010-07-28 Thread countdeiro
Sterling, With the understanding that the impactor is of the size you described in your last. Could there be significant property damage and human casualties outside the 100 mile diameter from the fall of matter propelled to great heights and trajectories? Is it plausible that large