Chris, Eric, List,
Mazapil is a very old argument, indeed.
Take a look at:
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2002M%26PS...37..649B
or the same at the author's website:
http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Mazapil.pdf
and this one:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1987/pdf/1377.pdf
Hello Chris, Eric,
The simple answer is no. No meteorites have ever been found that
match all criteria for what we believe cometary material should look
like.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1004.pdf
This is also the sort of topic that has been brought up again and
again on the
Haha, but Sterling -- I'd like to refer you to one of the posts (one
of yours!) I linked to in my reply:
http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84604.html
The Wisconsin fall was another coincidence -- and it's not the only
one. If you go through the fall calendars,
Hi Chris,
There are many, many meteorites that fell during meteor showers as
showers happen on a regular basis,e.g. Gemenids, Leonids, Persieds
etc. etc. but that does not mean to say that the meteorite fall had
any association with the shower.
Graham, UK
On 12 August 2010 04:59, Chris Spratt
Hi, Jason, Chris, Eric, List,
Now, I'm going to turn around and play Devil's Advocate
and ridicule my own ridicule. Of course the iron Mazapil
came from the Andromedid stream!
Here's a good paper on the Andromedids and their
parent body, Comet 3D/Biela:
I remember when the first results from the Stardust mission were coming out.
Everyone was surprised to see the the CI chondrites did not match as well as
first thought and that the best match were the metal-rich CH chondrites. I'm
not sure what the studies have shown since then but maybe
Dr. Warren B. Hamilton (Distinguished Senior Scientist
Department of Geophysics, Colorado School of Mines) has
two summary papers about the geology of Venus, including
notes about impact craters online and downloadable from
his web page at:
http://inside.mines.edu/~whamilto/
The papers are:
Jeff:
Why would you expect cometary dust particles to look like CIs. CIs are
aqueously altered, and there is little indication that this would happen
on a comet (though there were possible observations of this from some Deep
Impact observations). You need a good deal of heating, enough to melt
Hi Stanley,
It is good that this meteorite is attracting more and more attention
from the outside of our small meteorite circle.
But still scientists who are working on the stone may not be able to
firmly confirm its terrene origin since the oxygen isotope overlap
with the earth data cannot
http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is bull, but dig
it! Mike A.
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HAHA His neighbor is laughing pretty hard right about now, I think...
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--- He said it was still warm when he plucked it from the pool.
...
We asked 100 adults and the top 5 answers are on the board. Here is
the question :
How would a fresh-fallen meteorite feel?
Contestant from Ohio says - it was still warm!
As he turns and points to the board, the host says -
I think someone did pull a prank on him...
Still hot after being in water... come on...
Greg S.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:21:43 -0700
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To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
CC: mfranci...@verizon.net
Subject:
Hi List:
Sterling K Webb mentioned this paper about 3/DBiela
Here's a good paper on the Andromedids and their
parent body, Comet 3D/Biela:
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/12800/1/JENaj07b.pdf
I see that one of my earlier essays on this comet was cited. I'd
forgotten about that paper.
Butbut...what if there was very hot water in the poolright??
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 6:05 PM
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Hi List,
I want to be sure that I'm fully understanding the correct method to
perform bulk density tests. I'm attempting to follow the steps in the
Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites. If someone would check me on
this I would greatly appreciate it.
Here is what I have been
Hi List
For those with nothing to do tonight during the Perseid meteor shower.
I've plotted Comet 3D/Biela A using Kinoshita's orbit and found the
comet lies in Pisces not too far from Messier 74.
Clear skies and don't forget to wear your hardhats!
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
Hello,
I will be removing the Best Offer feature this week on my Gebel Kamil
specimens...so if you want one... get your offers in. After this week, they all
will become long term inventory and the desire to quickly sell them diminishes
greatly!
SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE!
I watched the video again and for a brief moment you can see a child on the
roof of his house h
Greg S.
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:21:24 -0700
From: e...@meteoritesusa.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
I'm going to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt until I see
some more on this.
Mike in CO
On Aug 12, 2010, at 9:21 AM, MIke Antonelli wrote:
http://www.wpxi.com/news/24606429/detail.html ...I think this is
bull, but dig it! Mike A.
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Wouldn't it go clean through his body and then explode in the pool like what
happened in California.
Remember on 1000's Way To Die, cable TV show.
The funny thing is I just saw that episode the other day. Cool special effects.
Greg S.
Date: Thu, 12
Paper on with references on Comet 3D/Biela:
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/12800/1/JENaj07b.pdf
Orbital elements here:
http://jcometobs.web.fc2.com/pcmtn/0003d.htm
Chris. Spratt
Victoria, BC
Marc Fries wrote:
I did an online search and couldn't find anything - do you have a reference
Hi Sterling. Eric. Jason and all. IN Cosmic billiards nearly anything is
possible. IF A 22 Bullit can cause an orange to flip upside down or spin. A
large enough impact could also flip or spinn the earth. And its size would not
have to be in the current range of an extinction event impactor. An
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1008/11japan/
Asteroid probe, rocket get nod from Japanese panel
BY STEPHEN CLARK
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
August 11, 2010
The board governing Japan's space program last week formally approved a
successor to the Hayabusa asteroid explorer and the Epsilon small
Dear List,
When visiting Austria's Natural History Museum in Vienna last month, I
noticed a (for me) unexpected feature in Mazapil's Main Mass that was on
display.
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Mazapil_1.jpg
It reminded me of a feature, sometimes visible in Individuals of the Sikhote
Hi All,
BEECH Martin (2002) The Mazapil meteorite: From paradigm
to periphery (MAPS 37-5, 2002 May, pp. 649-660).
. and, of course, there is the unsurpassable Vagn Buchwald:
BUCHWALD, V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 2, pp. 808-813.
Some more pertinent references:
HIDDEN
Lots of rainids and cloudids where I live :-(
Ugh! Aargh!
Bernd
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Clear skies here in Holland BerndI'll count them here for you as
well..
yeeehh...
Jan
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:52 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Lots of
It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010
Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast one streaking N = S!
Bernd
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I don't know..I would want to talk to people he works with or
neighbors. I would say there's a better than average chance he's
telling the truth. I don't see him as one to read on the list or
somewhere and know how fast it hits and how much it may be worth. The
warm thing is probably something
Well lets hope these folks over The Big Pond are more lucky than I am. It's
clear all evening and haven't seen a darn thing yet...
Have fun Bernd and all of you far in the west.
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Have fun Bernd and all of you far in the west.
23:16:30 hrs = No. 3 extremely bright orange with a clearly visible smoke
trail!!!
Bernd
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Starting at about 10 o'clock, walking over the fields together with my dear
wife, pretty cloudy sky with only a few windows to the stars and - yes
indeed, 2 nice Perseids flashing silently in the West. One for each of us,
that's not the richness of Aladin's cave, but we're happy about them and
Jan wrote:
How long is it driving to Germany
Exactly the same idea crossed my mind, only difference I was pondering
how long it would take me to drive to Holland ... have never been there
and my Pauline would like to see the tulips in spring there!
Well, as for watching the Perseids, do not
It's mostly clear here tonight. I'm going to get my camera and
catchers mit and get out there tonight.
Barry
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
It's clearing up, Jan, ... it's clearing up and I captured my first 2010
Perseid visually at 23:05 CEDST... a very fast
Bernd,
Last year Mary and I both saw one at the radiant. I thought there was some
slight lateral movement. She said there was none. Only later did I
vacillate between being scared that I (or she!) was a target and
disappointed that these things have to burn up.
Still a bright, warm
The weather isn't so great here, either. But I've got 88 Perseids recorded
over the last few nights. I've got some images at
http://www.cloudbait.com/science/perseid2010.html
On the subject of distance from the radiant, note the video of one of the
Perseid fireballs, which originated just 7°
This whole benefit of the doubt and better than average chance thing
is illogical. The guy's description says it all. Or rather the lack of
data gives you plenty of information to draw a conclusion that no
meteorite hit him much less fell in the area. There are NO reports of
any fireballs from
Hi Folks,
Something to consider here, when weighing the responses from list
members, is longevity on this list.
For newer list members, this is the first, or second (or maybe third)
time they have heard a story like this. Or, for list members who
don't read every single post or skip posts, they
Nothin' but clear and blue in NW Indiana. Sorry Bernd:(
Regards,
Steve
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--- On Thu, 8/12/10, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
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Subject: [meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
To:
I live in Brooklyn and its raining and when its not raining the sky is lite up
by all the lights from Bk and the city. By chance what time is the best to look
at the meteor shower and what part of the sky?
Shawn Alan
[meteorite-list] 2010 Perseids
Steve Witt stelor96 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 12
I would have to say I got a laugh about the guy and his encounter with a rock
that he feels might be from space. I bet that's how alot of people on the List
get when they are in an actual strewn field for the first time and looking for
meteorites. But for this guy, he knows nothing about
Hi Shawn and List,
It will be severe clear tonight as pilots say here in Nevada. We got lucky. I
rounded up the two youngest grandsons, Michael 12, and Vincent 10, and we'll
get up at one o'clock and take the Jeep out into the pitch dark desert north of
Las Vegas. We have lawn chairs, iced
Shawn,
The best time to look is after midnight, and try to get as far away from city
lights as you can. The shower's radiant (where the meteors all seem to come
from) will be in the N.E. sky about midway between the constellations of
Perseus and Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia looks like a big letter
Hi Chis,
You might see if you captured video of one that took place at 9:15 or
thereabouts tonight. I watched it go from north to south or southeast
a bit. It was west of Montrose. It was a spectacular thing to see
with a long trail behind it. I'd call it a small fireball. I would be
It's not on my camera, although it could be on one of the others in the
network. You can keep an eye on the overall activity in central Colorado by
watching the real-time output of the Guffey camera at
http://www.cloudbait.com/meteor/showraw.php . No images are posted here, but
you might
I need the help from the list to come up with genius solution to my problem and
devise a plan to have the whole city of NYC go dark around optimum view time
of the meteor shower while i set on my fire escape with with trusty old Nikon
d200 camera and take pics of the shower, any takers? Or I
8:45 MST time approx. A real beauty east of Prescott AZ traveling north to
south along the horizon for at least 2 seconds +. Large flash and a trail.
What a beaut. Almost dropped my beer. This was in the city lights from our
home on the couch.
Wayne
I've seen several ugly large stones but for my brother's office, I am
trying to find 3 to 8 kg stones with a great exterior. These will not
be cut.
I would like good prices, of course, of UNWA... but of exceptional
beauty for display
Thanks...
Barry
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