Hey Rob,
Another excellent display!
And as always, Thank You, Michael, for your Pictures of the Day!!
Best regards,
Greg
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I have to agree with Greg H. on this one concerning O isotope data and pairing
of 5400. Under normal conditions, the standard testing will work, but when it
comes to the unusual nature of 5400 and 6292, more should be done.
As NWA 6291 showed, you can not base the fact of pairing only on visual
Dear Rob, John and List,
The was most likely ONE meteor and no information about the duration of it
has been suggested by anyone except Rob`s mis-intrepretation. The times that
Rob is referring to are people`s search times (after the event) and nothing
else. The only value of the search
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/September_26_2010.html
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Hello List,
i have some very interesting auctions at ebay ending today,
there is a CR2, a nice slice of a very unusual Eucrite, a new CV and
some more.
It's worth to take a look:
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Many thanks for
More on Aboriginal Dreamings:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100203-asteroid-collision-earth-global-cooling/
Phil Whitmer
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See these articles below -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8026237/Meteor-crater-found-on-Google-Earth-could-help-prepare-for-future-impacts.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315568/Massive-meteor-crater-discovered-spotted-Google-Earth.html
You are welcome, Bernd!
Regards,
Bob Loeffler
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Hi List,
I received the following question off-List, and would like to answer it
on-List:
Q: What are you looking for?
A: Please see description at the top of the Trade/Sale page.
Thanks,
Rob
- Original Message -
From: Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl
To:
John C. Hall, curator of the Black Belt museum and former director at the
Alabama NHM, has just published this well researched, truly interesting paper
on the events in Sylacauga in 1954, which can be found here:
http://museums.ua.edu/history/wordpress/
Well worth a read, and the photographs
Shawn wrote:
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Now the slight problem I have with NWA's is that you really don't know how
much
of that stuff is out there. That can work in your favor and against you. So
lets say you found an NWA and its about 1000g and you
Dear List Members,
I have 54 great auctions ending today started at just 99 cents with no reserve.
I also have some fixed price auctions with the make offer option enabled.
Please take a look if you have time.
Link to all auctions:
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Thank you for
Nice article on the Rover's latest meteoric discovery...
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars-rover-finds-sixth-
meteorite-100927.html
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Adam wrote:
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This issue is not unique to NWA meteorites. The same thing could be said for
Antarctic or other desert finds. Yes, Antarctica is a desert. The same issue
applies to falls. How much Allende is
Pairings are found throughout, regardless if found or witnessed. It is just
that
falls require much less scrutiny since the find location is enough to make a
pairing conclusion. The pairings are very rarely recorded for a fall after the
initial entry in the bulletin. NWAs on the other hand,
But, Shawn, Count, all..
with NWA you get material, which you couldn't afford, if you'd have to buy
it in form of historics,
material, where not sufficient quantities for all, collectorsscientists,
are available among the historics,
you get NEW material and sometimes material not to be found
the difference between NWAs and all the other falls is that NWA nobody knows
where the strewn fields are.
Same can be said for many US falls when strewnfields are likened to gold claims
and the data is kept secret.
The strewnfield for Whetstone is still not known publicly or even listed in
I collect meteorites that are odd in any way. It could be the type, where it
was found, the shape or anything that makes it interesting to show and talk
about. To me a fresh fall that's an OC may be a lot more desirable than an
achondrite. Or an OC that has a very unique shape may be
My daughters school is trying to plan a trip to the Catawba Valley Science
Center and Planetarium. http://catawbascience.org/
Budget cuts will not allow the school to cover the $12.50 per child cost for
the 34 students in 2nd grade that would attend.
I know I have done my AD for the week, but
I'd like to make a couple of observations about both pairing and collecting.
Several comments have been made regarding preserving the value of a meterorite,
with reference to pairings decreasing value, etc. I don't know why you collect,
heck, I don't even know why I collect things. It is
Coect, Adam!
In the Bulletins you have often with the classics either tkw figures from
the first (single) report or from ld literature.
The Blue Book, what has it for Sikhote - 27 tons.
But rather 100 tons were recovered.
Same with Campo, same with Canyon, same with Gibeon
Ah! Meine guten Freunde, Martin, Shawn und alle auf der Liste.
Martin said, And that is one point, which makes meteorite collecting so
fascinating, that
you can participate to a certain degree in the red-hot space research!
You have hit the nail on the head, Martin! I, for one, collect for the
Hi Greg S.,
the Martians and the Lunars are the best documented meteorites of all and
are also those meteorites, where the most research is currently done on
(together with the carbonaceous ones).
Martians Lunars are the last anonym meteorites of all.
Find all about the lunaites here:
Greetings Count, Adam, Martin, Shawn and curious onlookers,
As we all know, at this point in the NWA timeline, meteorites are not
exclusively sold to one wholesaler or dealer. These meteorites are
shopped around the block to multiple wholesalers/dealers. So, if
NWA 5400 turned up in the Hupe
Hello Count and other Listers :)
Count said;
What would command more of one's treasure. An Ensesheim with provenance, or a
stone of the same classification from NWA? How about the first meteorite, with
COMPLETE analysis, that is the first of it's kind found to be tied to the
earth's early
What do you mean, am I reading this right? You assume because 1 person
has a piece of a rare meteorite that it's an absolute that more of that
meteorite exists?
This certainly doesn't take into account single meteorite
classifications at all. Are you saying the EVERY NWA ever classified has
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_09_27_10.asp
Dawn Journal
Dr. Marc Rayman
September 27, 2010
Dear Dawnniversaries,
On the third anniversary of traveling through the solar system on its
own since dispatching Dawn on a separate journey,
Earth continues to orbit the sun in much the same
Hi Shawn and List,
Historics and NWA's are like chocolate and peanut butter - they both
have their individual virtues, but they are arguably more tasty when
combined. Unless a person's collecting interest is narrowly defined
(type collection, historic falls, state falls, hammers, etc), then
most
Hi Count,
You said it! I couldn't agree more,
It is the research, and the science, and the rarity, that first drive the
desirabilitythen the other factors of collection enter the picture to
set the initial price.
Please, ladies and gentlemen, don't denigrate those of us who say we
Just trying to get some opinions. I recently got a batch of celtic
coins from a french hoard in trade for some fossils.
Two of the coins seem to have some interesting symbolism; what appears
to be a comet over two mountains.
Or perhaps that my interpretation.
See for yourself;
Hi Shawn,
I find collecting from a classification aspect with NWA's to be very
cumbersome because of the slight variations in meteorites which some people
say its rare.
Once I was also a relatively strict historics collector.
Until I realized, that NWA will open to me a WHOLE NEW WORLD!!!
Hello Eric and All,
MikeG wrote:
So, if NWA 5400 turned up in the Hupe inventory, you can bet your bottom
dollar that the same meteorite will show up in other dealer inventories
under a different NWA number(s).
MikeG obviously made a hip-shot, knee-jerk uninformed comment. Considering
there
Hi Greg and List,
I wasn't trying to take a shot at anyone. But the marketplace has
changed, even in the brief 3 years I have been active on it. There
was a time, not long ago, that the number of stateside dealers who
bought directly from the Moroccan sources could be counted on two
hands - not
Hi Alanj, list,
From my files, NWA 2999 has quite many pairings.
Here is my general write up for this meteorite
with a compilation of its recognized pairings
(updated 2009 so possibly not complete):
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NWA 2999 (Morocco, Angrite), found 2004.
Purchased Tagounite (G. Hupé).
Many of you on the list have purchased, and hopefully enjoyed, my book
The Art of Collecting Meteorites. It was self-published in 2005.
When it was still just a dream no publisher found my proffered
synopsis worthy of consideration. After I had sold hundreds of copies
I re-submitted the actual
Greetings to all from this brand new list newbie. Wondering if anyone
has any info on a Maine coastal double meteorite find at Round Pond,
Maine, that occurred several years ago?
Seems a lobsterman was hauling his lobster boat up the public boat ramp
and out of the water for the winter season,
Hi Kevin and List,
I don't quite qualify re: opinions sought because I have my
copy of this book on my shelf but I wouldn't want seeing:
- many photos deleted,
- color illustrations eliminated,
- the quality of the paper diminished.
And, I wouldn't need a pdf-format nor an eBook (Apple). I
Hi Tim and List,
Please, ladies and gentlemen, don't denigrate
those of us who say we collect for investment
No hard feelings, no denigration, of course, but I do remember that my passion
for stamps began to wane when I started seeing a monetary value in my stamp
collection. Money was always
Hi Zelimir and List,
I think we are lucky that there is a combined total of ~6kg of NWA 2999 and
pairings. As you commented:
(Note 1: G. Hupé had all the 12 fragments analyzed [of NWA 2999], which is
a sign of a serious work)
Another note which most people do not know is that I also
Hi Greg and List,
Thanks for the schooling on non-paired NWA finds. Yes, there are some
outstanding specimens like NWA 482 that sit atop a lonely perch with
no pairings. We are now approaching 7000 NWA meteorites, and it's
going to be a long time before all of the data is compared. As Martin
NOTE: When a core sample was requested of NWA 4931 because of its
larger physical size, I agreed to let scientists at MIT take a 1/2 x
3 deep core sample to perform magnetic analysis to try and get a
better understanding of the angrite parent body. At the risk of losing
aesthetic 'value' to having
Mike G and Greg H and Listers,
Mike G great point about how exclusivity is misconstrued with NWAs and before
you know it, you have multiple pairs. Good example, NWA 2999, yeah there is a
lot of pairs with that one and some say that the other pairs don't me squat and
only buy the real deal. So
Martin wrote:
St 4472 has 4485 as pair...
Whoops! My misstake, Martin is absolutley correct, NWA 4485 is paired to NWA
4472...Now I feel like a KREEP! lol
GregH
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Or a fish jumping out of the water.
That would be cool should this turn out to be a shooting star or meteoroid.
Cheers!
Mike Tettenborn
Also porud owner of some NWA 6292
On 28/09/2010 4:58 PM, Yinan Wang wrote:
Just trying to get some opinions. I recently got a batch of celtic
coins from
Bernd wrote:
I don't collect meteorites for investment but for the pure joy of holding a
piece from the depths of the solar system (and beyond) in my hands and study
it (visually and microscopically).
Bravo Bernd. It is your love for these stones that has inspired me to
enrich my knowledge
Not exactly... The age of the solar system has been refigured based on a
meteorite. The letters NWA are irrelevant.. ;)
Eric
On 9/28/2010 3:29 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier
in this discussion, the age of the solar system itself has now been
called into
Though I wrote it privately... ;-)
But especially the lunars and Martians, which are always checked, if they
are paired,
there one can see well, that there is no rule, that no stone comes alone
from NWA.
Some have immediate pairings, from some every few years another sample
surfaces,
others
Better picture, of two of the coins.
Ya, open to interpretation.
http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000b01z6
-Yinan
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:40 PM, tett t...@rogers.com wrote:
Or a fish jumping out of the water.
That would be cool should this turn out to be a shooting star or
Dear List,
I am looking to buy old original letters, documents, price lists, etc.,
related to meteorites and early meteoritics. Shoot me an email offlist if
you have anything that might fit that description.
Thank you,
Mike Bandli
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Mike Bandli
Historic Meteorites
Hello Shawn and List,
Shawn wrote:
Greg H you say that O isotope is the only factor to determine pairing...
your wrong there are other factors with paring meteorites. Some body told me
this
Yes, I said that oxygen IS needed to determine a pairing to NWA 5400, as was
explained to me
Good article, Rob. Thanks for posting it.
And kudos to Marc for bringing this fall to light!
I'm trying to arrange a family visit for Thanksgiving, and my folks live
just 2-3 hours south of there. I'll have to allow a few extra days, so I can
drive up and give it a shot.
Linton
- Original
Aloha Kevin, Mike, Bernd, list,
I am a happy owner of a The Art of Collecting Meteorites book, one of many
dozens on meteorites that I have in my library. I agree with Bernd that I
would not like many photos deleted, color illustrations eliminated or the
quality of paper diminished. I love
Right now is not a good time, the fields are only starting to be harvested. And
they just had a really high profile murder and everyone was really on edge and
sold nearly 100 handguns in the past few weeks or so. They caught the guy
today, so it should be a little easier hunt. I will be heading
Greg H and Listers,
I think the first secret about the NWA 5400 meteorite might be to unlock the
CRE age, then I think that can support one theory or scratch one theory off and
look at the other theories that have been present about NWA 5400.
Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
eBaystore
Sounds like a more than fair price to me. I have paid waay more than
that for some of my other collection books.
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From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:04 PM
To: Kevin Kichinka
Here is a picture of the reverse:
http://pics.livejournal.com/thefossiladdict/pic/000b1seh
All the coins have the same backing, but I haven't figured out which
hoard it is yet.
They are silver.
-Yinan
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:
Hi Yinan,
Hi Yinan,
Interesting coins. What metal are they made of? Can you post a photo
of the other side?
Thanks,
Peter
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Yinan Wang
Sent: Tuesday,
Hi Kevin.
_The Art of Collecting Meteorites_ was literally the second book I owned about
meteorite collecting and the first one I purchased when I started collecting
seriously.
All things being equal, I personally would rather have a hard copy book in my
hands. Real books are instant on,
Hi Yinan,
I think that Tett is correct the common description is that of a
dolphin in front of a bust facing left. Still a cool coin.
Thanks,
Peter
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
I personally see the moon over the mountains with a large comet visible.
Steve
Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/
--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:
From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Celtic coin depicting comet?
To:
David and List...in concert with the current discussion on NWA 5400 and
6292: I want to share with everyone why I even started this passion,
because it goes directly to David's point. It also points to a reminder of
why we do this crazy passion. Essentially, it is knowledge that drives most
Good call, managed to look up the coin after the dolphin suggestion:
http://www.worldcoincatalog.com/AC/C1/CelticKingdoms/Aquitania/Tectosages/Tectosages.htm
Oh well, its a dolphin, not a comet.
-Yinan
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:
Hi Yinan,
Hi Dave,
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing any mention of either meteorite in the
Meteorical Bulletin database, so those two meteorites were probably never
proven to be real meteorites.
Regards,
Bob Loeffler
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Well Kevin I have mine
Cover to cover I did not put it down. Sad something has to change but I do
encourage anyone who hasn't read it to get it in one format or another.
Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites
www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel
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We
Carl:
I am glad that I provoked thought - that is in my mandate as an educator...;)
I will try to answer your questions, albeit perhaps not in order, and I hope I
can explain.
First, you ask about Mbarak's box of rocks, aren't they likely paired? Well, it
is very unlikely that two different
Richard and Lister,
I think you and the rest of us on here feel the same way about meteorite
collecting, but at the end of the day, some Listers can spend $1000's if not
more and for those reasons money is an issue. To fork over a few $1000 for an
NWA 5400 that has been speculated to be from
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entertained.
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Hello, Everyone!
First, I want to apologize for my accidental blank post the other
day. Got a new phone and hit the wrong button!
I want to let everyone know that we have some really nice new
additions to our site. Besides that silicated brecciated Campo, we
also have some killer Henbury
Shawn and Others:
Since some people did not read or forgot what I wrote in my very first
announcement of NWA 5400 on June 8, 2010, here it is to review. You will
notice in the second abstract dated 2010 that the Cosmic Ray Exposure date
HAS been determined. Now how scientists compile that
Statistically improbable, agreed.
I'll toss in some more believable Maine meteorite trivia I believe I read in
The
Works of Nininger and have to rely on memory as my copy is in storage.There
was a report of an impact in remote Maine which reached Harvey so he promptly
went to
Hello
Greg H and Listers,
That's funny you brought that up because 10 mins ago I found that in the 2010
paper that had the CRE which I over looked, and this is what it says
Noble Gases: Noble gases in two samples of NWA 5400 were analyzed by total
melting and stepwise heating. The
Shawn,
For now there are three scenarios which are spelt out between the two
abstracts. While talking with one of the scientists earlier, he pointed out
that it is very hard to make a comment similar to yours in regards to the
CRE age of NWA 5400 and that he would explain it further to me in
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