[meteorite-list] [Announced June 8, 2010] NWA 5400: Earth-Related Meteorite

2010-09-29 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Greg H I have also spoken to a scientist about NWA 5400 and for the meteorite to be ejected from Earth from the 4 billion Thea event, it would have to make the CRE at 4Ga, if its related to that event. Also, like you said, your not a scientist nor am I, but if you could, it would be

Re: [meteorite-list] [Announced June 8, 2010] NWA 5400: Earth-Related Meteorite

2010-09-29 Thread Greg Hupe
Shawn, It's a lot more complicated than that so we need to wait for this statement. I am willing to wait so there is nothing further to add at this point. Best regards, Greg - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: gmh...@htn.net Cc:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBook Opinions Sought

2010-09-29 Thread Gegenschein
Hello Kevin, I would let you know, that your book was the first meteorite book I had ever read. You inspired me to read Nininger´s Find a falling star. Since that time more than hundred books are following. So I can say, you have made me a meteorite book nut. Now time is come to reduce this

Re: [meteorite-list] [Announced June 8, 2010] NWA 5400: Earth-Related Meteorite

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Kowalski
I think there is a misunderstanding on what the CRE dating represents. As Shawn pointed out, the abstract clearly states that The meteorite shows a large 129Xe excess (~3×10-10 cm3/g) derived from 129I decay (T1/2 = 16 Ma), indicative of its formation very early in Solar System history. That

Re: [meteorite-list] [Announced June 8, 2010] NWA 5400: Earth-Related Meteorite

2010-09-29 Thread Sterling K. Webb
The CRE age is the length of time this rock has been exposed in space to cosmic rays. That is, THIS rock, a chunk less than a meter or so, which the cosmic rays could penetrate (mostly) through. Now, if there was a 4 billion year old chunk that was fat enough, it would keep cosmic rays out of

Re: [meteorite-list] Celtic coin depicting comet?

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Davidson
Dear All Looks intriguing. Is it a comet or is it lightning? The multiple tails suggest forked lightning to me. I will see if any of our numismatists can shed any light. Regards Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West

[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Meteorite eBook Opinions Sought]

2010-09-29 Thread David Gunning
--- Original Message Subject: Meteorite eBook Opinions Sought From:David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net Date:Wed, September 29, 2010 5:50 am To: Cc: davidgunn...@fairpoint.net

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 29, 2010

2010-09-29 Thread Michael Johnson
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[meteorite-list] Planetary Pairings...some facts, some guesses

2010-09-29 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Martin, list, NWA 3163 IS paired with NWA 4483 and 4881 (Korotev Met. Bull.). All the other unpaired from your compilations are correct. This being and, on another note, because NWA 4483 was quasi certified having been found in Algeria (Ralew and also Met. Bull. database), I guess it is

Re: [meteorite-list] Planetary Pairings...some facts, some guesses

2010-09-29 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Zelimir, no worries, was a simple typo, digittwiddler. I meant NWA 3136 not NWA 3163. NWA 3163/4483/4881 are paired and beautiful. who gave it for classification to different institutes, No, all three were classified by Irving, Kuehner et al. To us it makes often most sense, if we by

Re: [meteorite-list] Planetary Pairings...some facts, some guesses

2010-09-29 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello Martin, Zelimir and List, Martin wrote: no worries, was a simple typo, digittwiddler. I meant NWA 3136 not NWA 3163. It's alright, Martin. I made the same typo when I first mentioned NWA 4472/4483. Easy to do when we have so many classification numbers under our belts. As for NWA

[meteorite-list] Fwd: [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections

2010-09-29 Thread Darryl Pitt
Hi, With apologies for not having paid attention I was really disappointed to just learn of Norbert moving on. Norbert has indeed provided dedicated service to our community. Armed with an ethical compass, intelligence and sensitivity, I am so grateful, Norbert, for your ceaseless

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections

2010-09-29 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY
Darryl and List, I most emphatically agree with your praise of Norbert. From a personal point of view, Norbert's dedication to and performance in his position sets a standard that exceeds the norm. [no pun intended] Thank you Norbert. Jerry Flaherty On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Darryl Pitt

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Candidates for the 2010 Elections

2010-09-29 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List, I was privileged to serve with Norbert as an officer on the board of directors for the IMCA. During these three years, I observed how diligent, hard working and fair Norbert is. He is a founding member and worked tirelessly to advance the IMCA. He devoted probably thousands of

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 (BRA) IS paired to NWA 5400 !

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Montgomery
I meant to writeIf monetary terms is the reason for one's collecting meteorites, this is not crucial to science! -R - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com; countde...@earthlink.net; cdtuc...@cox.net;

Re: [meteorite-list] pairing and collecting

2010-09-29 Thread cdtucson
David, You make some very interesting and thought provoking points here. I'm sure I will be pondering this for some time but what immediately hit home was your point about NWA 5400 and how it may be an Earthite. As I have followed meteoritic's for the past 20 years in a very novice capacity. The

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA5400 redux - a long explanation

2010-09-29 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi David, Carl and List, Thanks for the detailed explanation David. :) I recall reading something about catastrophic events that can reset the CRE of some materials. Maybe I am not remembering correctly. Is it possible that a cataclysmic event could shock/alter a material to such a degree

[meteorite-list] Twice Blessed Yankee Lobsterman

2010-09-29 Thread David Gunning
Hi Rob Elton, Believe it or not, guys, I was well aware that the two Round Pond meteorites had not been mentioned with official citations. You think I would want to waste peoples time without first getting the factual lay of an issue? That's not my style. I first learned about the Round Pond

[meteorite-list] NWA 5400 Age Origin Processes

2010-09-29 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, As promised, here is a basic summary of conversations I have had with Dr. Tony Irving who is the lead investigator of NWA 5400 and possible pairings. Also keep in mind that analysis is ongoing by a number of scientists and labs from around the world, which will eventually

Re: [meteorite-list] Planetary Pairings...some facts, some guesses

2010-09-29 Thread Greg Hupe
Carl Esparza, Yes, you ask a lot of questions. Your 'questions' are more like statements you are trying make in order to change history, suggest to others you know one thing about the big picture or that you know what I do and where or when. You know nothing about me or my dealings, only what

[meteorite-list] Ad- letters

2010-09-29 Thread Edwin Thompson
Hello List members, Patrick and I are offering some letters and signed reprints. Please contact us off list if you have an interest in adding these to your collection. Sincere thanks, Edwin etmeteori...@hotmail.com A letter dated 1983 from Robert Hutchison to Dr. Alan Rubin

[meteorite-list] NASA Invites Public To Discuss 'What Matters Next' At TedxNASA

2010-09-29 Thread Ron Baalke
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[meteorite-list] Nwa5400 rdux - oops!

2010-09-29 Thread David R. Vann
To all: In response to Greg C. - yes you can repost it, and I take responsbility for any errors or confusions arising. I would like to correct an error I made writing this late last night after a tiring day rebuilding parts of my mass spectrometer: The Sun is not currently making oxygen; there

[meteorite-list] nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363

2010-09-29 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hi all and i m happy that this issue is becoming a very polit and civilised discussion; well 3 months that i do not want to get caught inside this discussion any more, but well this is becoming repeated to a point that we forget what the debat is about, for nwa 5363; i get a talk on albert

[meteorite-list] Cosmic Ray exposure

2010-09-29 Thread Edwin Thompson
Hello list members, Do any of you know the cosmic ray exposure of the D'Orbigny angrite? It is an extreme area of curiosity to me how a chunk of relatively light and fluffy planetary basalt filled with so many huge vesicles and large vugs filled with these delicate augite crystals can

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins continued Lagrange Points...was NWA 5400 Age Origin Processes

2010-09-29 Thread MEM
This discussion prompted me to wonder what reservoirs might exist that could preserve any big wack debris which was not re-accreted onto the Earth or Moon. I came up with the natural orbital parking lot known as the Earth Trojans. For those unaware, they orbit in the Lagrangian point's L4

[meteorite-list] AD-Agoult, Henbury, ebay auctions

2010-09-29 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha, The Big Kahuna has some premium meteorites to offer the collector community, and an ebay auction featuring over 35 items ending this weekend. AGOULT This unbrecciated eucrite is as fresh as any fall. Beautifully textured crust lines two edges of these slices that were

[meteorite-list] Cosmic Ray exposure (of D'orbigny)

2010-09-29 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Ed and List, The (average) CRE of D'Orbigny is 12.3 ± 0.9 Ma according to this abstract: Eugster O. et al. (2002) Characterization of the noble gases and CRE age of the D'Orbigny angrite (MAPS 37-7, 2002, A044). Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins continued Lagrange Points...was NWA 5400 Age Origin Processes

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Kowalski
Elton, to date there are no known Earth Trojans. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Wed, 9/29/10, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Origins continued Lagrange Points...was NWA 5400 Age Origin Processes

[meteorite-list] Analysis of Hayabusa Samples Will Wait Until 2011

2010-09-29 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1009/29hayabusa/ Analysis of Hayabusa samples will wait until 2011 BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW September 29, 2010 PRAGUE -- Scientists won't know whether Japan's Hayabusa probe actually returned asteroid dust until at least February or March, when

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins continued Lagrange Points...was NWA 5400 Age Origin Processes

2010-09-29 Thread MEM
My Bad! I misread the factsheet regarding 3753 Cruithne which isn't a Trojan by definition...sigh. So the Trojans we are looking at visiting are those of Jupiter. BUT if we were looking for left over shards--very very small ones... I assume this is amongst other places is a candidate for

[meteorite-list] Atmosphere Checked, One Mars Year Before a Landing

2010-09-29 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-316 Atmosphere Checked, One Mars Year Before a Landing Jet Propulsion Laboratory September 29, 2010 PASADENA, Calif. -- What will the Martian atmosphere be like when the next Mars rover descends through it for landing in August of 2012? An

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363

2010-09-29 Thread Norbert Classen
Dear Aziz All, You wrote: he said too that he has given all the data that confirm the pairing including the isotope to norbert classen in end june where they talk abaout this and as i asked him to do so. Maybe there's a slight misunderstanding here. I actually emailed with Dr. Jambon in

[meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread countdeiro
Hello List, Maybe...just maybe... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707 Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread Thunder Stone
... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707 Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Re : nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363

2010-09-29 Thread habibi abdelaziz
thanks norbert for your habitual honnesty and help you have been a good help for me  for years now , and we if are going to miss you at the imca we hope we will not miss in the meteorite community. i have no doubt on what you said , i transfer this email and cc to albert jambon. thanks aziz

Re: [meteorite-list] (OT) Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread Carl 's
Countdeiro wrote: Hello List,Maybe...just maybe...http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707Best to all, __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list

[meteorite-list] MHC Magazine Articles Photos Invitation

2010-09-29 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi List, Get published in MHC magazine. http://www.mhcmagazine.com/blog/get-published-in-mhc/ User generated content ROCKS! Please read the article/link above. I'm looking for awesome full color photos related to meteorites, and well written detailed meteorite/astronomy articles 500 to 2500

Re: [meteorite-list] (OT) Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread Chris Peterson
Surface gravity compared with Earth can be approximated as m/r^2, where m is in Earth masses and r is in Earth radii. If this new planet is only three Earth masses and is 1.4 Earth radii, its surface gravity will be 1.5g. If the planet is four Earth masses and 1.2 Earth radii, its surface

Re: [meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread Sterling K. Webb
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[meteorite-list] Other Earths -- WAS: Re: Habitable Planet, etc.

2010-09-29 Thread Sterling K. Webb
, Count. Carl2 Countdeiro wrote: Hello List,Maybe...just maybe...http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707Best to all, __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Habital Planet Discovery Announcement

2010-09-29 Thread Katsu OHTSUKA
, Maybe...just maybe... http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100929/sc_afp/usastronomyplanet_20100929210707 Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list