Re: [meteorite-list] Good read about the moon being captured by Earth

2010-12-19 Thread Richard Kowalski
Science progresses one funeral at a time. -- Max Planck -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Sat, 12/18/10, almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com wrote: From: almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Good read about the moon being

Re: [meteorite-list] Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Jeff Grossman
There are several issues and a misconception here. Misconception: The Nomenclature Committee (NomCom) does not change the names of meteorites once they are accepted, except in extraordinary circumstances (e.g., the Gao/Guenie nomenclatural nightmare). To do so would cause endless confusion.

Re: [meteorite-list] Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Martin Altmann
I think it happens more then we would really want to know. And I think, it happens much less, than mistrustful collectors may suppose. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von

Re: [meteorite-list] Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Greg Catterton
Thanks for the info Jeff. I have a couple questions... Algeria, Niger, and Libya were all possible collection areas, and these are not in the NWA area, which is defined as Morocco and adjacent parts of the surrounding countries. If this is the case, how do recent Lunars like NWA 2996, 4483

Re: [meteorite-list] Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Jeff Grossman
Parts of Algeria are included in the definition of NWA. As for export laws, you tell me! Jeff On 12/19/2010 11:34 AM, Greg Catterton wrote: Thanks for the info Jeff. I have a couple questions... Algeria, Niger, and Libya were all possible collection areas, and these are not in the NWA area,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Law/Export and Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Greg Catterton
Is there a map that shows the areas of what is covered under NWA? If not, I think it would be useful to have one, not only for talking to people about meteorites but also for anyone who sells or collects NWA material. Being able to show where and what NWA is would go a long way. As for the laws

Re: [meteorite-list] Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Gilmer
Well, I had written a long and insightful reply pertaining to the original Sahara issue, but my laptop had a moment of stupidity and I lost the entire reply. I have no desire to completely re-type it out. A pity, since I think it was an effective statement about the duality of what is

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Law/Export and Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Greg and List, I wouldn't expect to see Algeria follow the same route as Canada or Australia with permitting. The Algerian government is only a step or two better than the Taliban, so I wouldn't expect a militant regime to accommodate the bureaucracy of international meteorite trading. The

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Law/Export and Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Gilmer
Did someone say NWA meteorite map...? http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/meteorite-map-saharan-desert-nwa-map-suitable-for-framing :) On 12/19/10, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a map that shows the areas of what is covered under NWA? If not, I think it would

[meteorite-list] AD: Join My Private Meteorite Sale Group To See Offers Like These!

2010-12-19 Thread michael cottingham
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[meteorite-list] Philippe Rouc

2010-12-19 Thread Mike Bandli
Dear List, I'm looking for Philippe Rouc from France or anyone that knows him or has dealt with him. If you could contact me off-list, I would be very grateful. Cheers, Mike Bandli Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on

[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Dear list members, I would warn any ebay seller against a very unpleasant ebay member. The ebay member ( tri-ball34 ) has won some meteorites with me on ebay and to this day not one of them paid. The total value of almost $ 1500. He had bought over a longer period of time. Now I've talked with

Re: [meteorite-list] Philippe Rouc

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Mike, oh.i know this name.but not this person! Please read my contribution to the U.S. list I have just written. I suspect this person has bought you with meteorites and never paid. Right? Many dear greetings Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha Mirko, Thank you for this warning to the list. I have not made any sales to this tri-ball34, but have had buyers default on payment several times in the past. All of them were new ebay members with less than 10 feedbacks, just like tri-ball34. And none of them contacted me to

[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
Yes, I would recommend banning this guy. He's a sport bidder, who bids on stuff then never pays for it or responds when you email him. He's in Montpelier, France. Happy Festivus, Peak Shoppping, Saturnalia, Winter Solstice, Druid Yule Day and Kwanzaa! Phil Whitmer Dear

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Law/Export and Quick Question about Sahara xxxxx finds

2010-12-19 Thread Jeff Grossman
There is no map. Jeff On 12/19/2010 12:05 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: Is there a map that shows the areas of what is covered under NWA? If not, I think it would be useful to have one, not only for talking to people about meteorites but also for anyone who sells or collects NWA material. Being

[meteorite-list] sad news

2010-12-19 Thread steve arnold
Hello all.I want to wish everyone the world over a truly Merry Cristmas.Our holidays were saddened today.I got news that my wife's older brother died suddenly in his sleep.He had been ill for sometime but nothing like was expected.We are still in shock.He was 61 years old.Again I do not want to

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Gary, yes, this is a good possibility of such difficulties would be out of the way to go. But I also know many very reliable buyer who still have under 10 points. And that would not be fair to this buyers. One will have to continue to live with the risk. By this guy I had already from the

Re: [meteorite-list] sad news

2010-12-19 Thread Steve Witt
Steve, My condolences to you and your family. A loss is always difficult and at this time of year it is even harder. Best, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 12/19/10, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com

[meteorite-list] Happy Holidays from the Sonoran Desert M Hunting camp

2010-12-19 Thread U.S. Airborne
Happy Holidays from the Sonora Desert . We got 5 hours of FOG here in the desert today, kinda strange. Only have seen it twice before in my life. Its been quite a long time since my last post to the list, as I had to go back to my job teaching folks to fly for a few weeks. I wanted to Wish

[meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread martin goff
Hi Mirko and list, I have had 2 non payments from this bidder in the past with no contact for days and then promises of payment followed by more non contact. Everyone has financial burdens and delayed payment is no problem but non communication is not on. I will now block this bidder. Cheers

[meteorite-list] Ad - One last push

2010-12-19 Thread Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-19 Thread Ted Bunch
Dear Greg and Eric--Your stones were classified and submitted and we have discussed this problem. Greg your stone is NWA 5511; Eric, your stones are NWA 5440 and 5441, this you already know. These are part of MIA III or missing in action. As an example of the problems classifiers have had and

[meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Adam Hupe
Yes, This guy ( tri-ball34 ) won quantity 23 items from me valued into the thousands and will not pay for them. This is one of the reasons eBay can be so frustrating and I am trying to ween myself off of it. This kind of person not only hurts sellers, he hurts the buyers by bidding up items he

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Why don't you block him from bidding?? -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: Adam Subject: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34 Yes, This guy ( tri-ball34 ) won quantity 23 items from me valued into the thousands and will not pay for

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Adam, yes for the full-time seller it is a big problem. It costs time and money. but I see I am not alone in this problem. Best regards, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB:

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Adam Hupe
You bet I blocked this person the minute I found out what kind human trash I was dealing with. My block list is almost as long as my customer list. EBay is supposed to fun and I try to keep it as positive as possible by not dealing with this type for fecal matter. Best regards, Adam

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread michael cottingham
Hello, He is a scum bag. Block him, report him and do whatever you can... he cost me $500.00. The auctions can be relisted...it is the TIME these people steal that can not be recovered. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:41:46

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
It looks like eBay would suspend his account with all the complaints against him. They don't think twice about if for suspending sellers if they do something minutely wrong. -Original Message- From: Adam Hupe Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:45 PM To: Adam Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Negative feedback also!! -Original Message- From: michael cottingham Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:46 PM To: m_gr...@yahoo.de ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; raremeteori...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34 Hello, He is a scum bag.

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Adam, this person has won in the last 30 days 173 auctions at many different sellers. The total amount of purchases in last 30 days amounts to nearly $9000 No big deal to be able to do this if he does not intend to pay! Best regards, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Sellers can not give negative feedbacks. ... unfortunately ... I would have done in this case Best regards, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Oh yeah I forgot about that which I don't agree with either. -Original Message- From: Mirko Graul Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:59 PM To: michael cottingham ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; raremeteori...@yahoo.com ; Stuart McDaniel Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning,

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Gilmer
Besides blocking this clown, one can protect Buy It Now listings by requiring immediate payment. At least this way, someone can't win the item, end the listing, and then not pay. With an auction though, the only recourse is to block the bidder. I had a few problems with bidders like that when I

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Mike, yes, I know. But the shipping from Germany to the United States is very expensive. And so do some of the buyers a few days to collect pieces. That is absolutely ok. Fortunately, I've blocked him early. My auctions end almost every day. One would not imagine that this person wins all the

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Fujihara
To see the kind of damage this guy has done, follow this link to see all of the auctions tri-ball34 has won over the past 30 days: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItemsuserid=tri-ball34completed=1all=1rows=50sort=1_rdc=1 Those sellers on the list have to report him to ebay, and

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Gary, wow.a new piece on the list. Our all friend have won just in this moment a expensive Seymchan slice. ...bad for the seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=260705850283si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253Dviewitem= Best regards Mirko Mirko Graul

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Mirko Graul
And now he have won also a slice by cometshop: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrt=ncnma=trueitem=360327984789si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253Dviewitem= and a piece of Sylacauga:

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Greg Catterton
Yes, he tripled the price the Sylacauga would have sold for... Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $150.00 Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $120.00 Member Id: u***h ( 793 ) US $50.00 Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Chris Spratt
Hi Listers: I bid on a few of those items and I did't win one. Thought the bidder had deeper pockets than myself and was a real avid collector with the same collecting interests as myself. He beat me out on a few items just recently. I thought he was from Europe because all of his winning

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Blood
Doesn't this guy have a horrid ebay rating??? Michael On 12/19/10 12:01 PM, Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Gary, yes, this is a good possibility of such difficulties would be out of the way to go. But I also know many very reliable buyer who still have under 10 points.

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Gilmer
At this point, the guy shouldn't even have an eBay account, less yet a feedback rating. On 12/19/10, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Doesn't this guy have a horrid ebay rating??? Michael On 12/19/10 12:01 PM, Mirko Graul m_gr...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Gary, yes, this is a good

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Carl 's
Yeah, me too. Fortuneately most sellers I buy from are on this list and have already blocked this guy, but wonder how many auctions I won in the past were jacked up by him. Hurts everybody. Carl2 ...Starting to take the fun out of meteorite collecting. At least for me.

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning about ebay member

2010-12-19 Thread Chris Spratt
Judging by some bidding I've seen on recent auctions a couple of others may be doing the same thing. Anyone have other culprits? Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha, Buyers need to beware of tri-ball34 too, as he is continuing to bid up items on ebay even as i write this. He has won 2 more items and his carnage amounts to 180 items won in the last 30 days. You can identify this person as a bidder on an item by clicking on the Bid History link on a

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'd like to reply to a few of the points made in the below messages; while I would prefer to stay out of the mechanics of the classification/submission part of it, several other points were made that apply to the majority of people currently getting specimens analyzed and named that

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
I was just thinking, could this be someone named Curry? -Original Message- From: Gary Fujihara Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:21 PM To: MeteorList Cc: i...@imcamail.de Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34 Aloha, Buyers need to beware of tri-ball34 too,

Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Richard Montgomery
I haven't listed any items for about six months, and don't have any now...BUT plan to soon...so what is the method to block a bidder? (Maybe the answer to this is part of the thread, but I'm still noodling though everyone's comments and warnings. Any help will be appreciated.) Richard

[meteorite-list] WISE Asteroid Survey Will Continue Through January

2010-12-19 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1012/19wise/ WISE asteroid survey will continue through January BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW December 19, 2010 NASA has granted funding for the WISE infrared telescope to finish an extra full sky scan, giving scientists an additional opportunity to comb

[meteorite-list] blocking eBay bidders

2010-12-19 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. Here is a link to help walk you through step by step to block a bidder. http://reviews.ebay.com/How-To-Block-An-eBay-Bidder_W0QQugidZ112835288 Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/index.html - Original Message

Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list?????] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
Greg, 1) I'm not a member of the IMCA by choice 2) I, in theory, cannot see IMCA emails 3) The message I responded to was, itself, posted to the list (it was part of the discussion there) I suppose there's something else you can get angry at Ted for, now. Regards, Jason On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Richard Montgomery
Thanks to the List...I've just blocked this a-hole (thanks Don M for the link) ...also went and looked at Lucyfi's Seymchan thin-slice (awesome, I might add) and sure enough 1***a won it. I tried writing her through MyEbay-ask-seller link to give her a heads-up, but couldn't. Isn't this a

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Just One Piece of an Unknown Celestial Body (Asteroid 2008 TC3)

2010-12-19 Thread Ron Baalke
http://carnegiescience.edu/news/meteorite_just_one_piece_unknown_celestial_body Meteorite just one piece of an unknown celestial body Carnegie Institution For Science December 15, 2010 Washington, D.C. - Scientists from all over the world are taking a second, more expansive, look at the

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Yinan Wang
Isn't this a crime? Or are all the warnings posted to bidders re:you are entering into a binding contract just a bunch of hey? *The following is not to be taken as legal advice* Well, its a legal contract, so it's a breach of contract when someone doesn't pay, but that's not usually

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Stuart McDaniel
I have an idea that may help...what about if you see this 1**a has bid on something, use the function to ask the seller a question that get's added to the description of the ad warning them of this guy? There ia a way that it will show up in the description and maybe

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Ed Deckert
I was under the impression that an ebay seller can cancel a bid while the auction is still active, and then block the buyer whose bid he canceled. (If the seller knows enough to look for him, that is.) Anyone know anything about doing that? Ed Deckert IMCA #8911 - Original Message

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Yinan Wang
Lets see if these links come through: Here is the bid cancellation form for sellers: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?CancelBidShow There is also a block bidder form but its very individual so I'm not sure I can successfully load the link. Go to ebay, click Help- Help Topics, and follow

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
To make things more interesting - tri-ball34 just got a lot of positive feedback from a seller. All relatively inexpensive small NWAs. Jason On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: Lets see if these links come through: Here is the bid cancellation form for

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - December 20, 2010

2010-12-19 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_20_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com