Hi Anne and list, I agree 100% with Anne on this issue, the Metlist is a public
forum. Our actions and words are viewed buy the world or professionals and
non-professionals. It is also a portal for the business world.
I have not read or know of everything Proud Tom has said, but I do know that
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Pesyanoe
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Yeah, if we are going to be paying for adverts then can we at least have some
list moderation in return?
Whilst the 'matteo wars', proud tom, the original Tom , Capital letters
Steve, selling material cheap to undermine Tuscon, Mike/Greg exchanges, Fairies
and struck ones where all
Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think?
http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757
Regards!
Tom
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Hmm. Just looks like someone packed a rock in their canopy, either accidentally
or on purpose and it popped out when the chute unfurled. (Or could just be be a
4114)
Odds of it happening, massive, odds of the rock being just the right size to
show up on camera - massive, odds, of the rock
Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his
pack came out when parachute deployed or scam.
Michael Farmer
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On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote:
Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all
An interesting discovery:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2013/0820/Out-of-this-world-Ancient-Egyptians-wore-meteorite-jewelry
Phil Whitmer
Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum
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More likely one of the rocks in his head rattled out of his ear and struck
him.
Cheers
Don
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Hello
Great storry but dont You think that this object looks strange ?
Check 5:17 where is the closeup. Maybe its just camera resolution but this
dont have color and shape of meteorite.
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Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
- Lewis Carroll
Although I tend to agree that it more than likely is not a falling meteorite.
Michael in so. Cal.
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Fake, absolutely
Hello List Members,
I recently move from my Ebay store some pieces to online auctions. All were
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Mont Dieu Iron Meteorite 49 g - French iron meteorite classified IIE
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He says he's flying in front of Jon Vegard who then enters the same airspace
as the rock. That rock might have come from Jon.
On 3 Apr, 2014, at 23:51, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his
pack came out when
April 3, 2014
NASA Space Assets Detect Ocean inside Saturn Moon
[Image]
Gravity measurements by NASA's Cassini spacecraft and Deep Space Network
suggest that Saturn's moon Enceladus, which has jets of water vapor and ice
gushing from its south pole, also harbors a large interior
It is not mathematically impossible, just very unlikely.
While I agree that there are more likely explanations than a meteorite,
nothing is obviously faked (on casual inspection), and it's dangerous to
label something as fake (which implies deception), or even just
wrong, on nothing more than
http://www.nature.com/news/exomars-scientists-narrow-down-landing-sites-1.14971
ExoMars scientists narrow down landing sites
Facing engineering constraints, researchers propose four destinations
for European rover.
Elizabeth Gibney
Nature
02 April 2014
Scientists have picked four potential
I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between
50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the
lower end given the tumbling). That seems about right given the few
frames it appears in (of course, estimating both size and distance is
difficult).
Hi Elton and list,
NASA Goddard Images just tweeted a photo from this event. I
tweeted back this must be a hoax. I think the odds are slim for it to
be a meteorite but hey, I'm no Expert. It may be remotely possible I
suppose.
Regards!
Tom
On 04/03/2014 03:34 PM, MEM wrote:
Hello Meteorite Friends,
I hope this post finds you well and will be of interest to you... I have
listed several rare and beautiful meteorites, all professionally prepared
and would be a fine addition to any collection!
Please find here just a few examples of what wonderful meteorites that
Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean
nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against
this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read
prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be)
I just don't see how the camera
could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what,
300+ mph minimum? How
could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second.
It is just all to crazy to believe.
Michael Farmer
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On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:50 AM,
Thanks Ron, that's exciting news :)
Doug Chenin
On 4/3/2014 11:44 AM, Ron Baalke wrote:
April 3, 2014
NASA Space Assets Detect Ocean inside Saturn Moon
[Image]
Gravity measurements by NASA's Cassini spacecraft and Deep Space Network
suggest that Saturn's moon Enceladus, which has
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote:
I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50
and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower
end given the tumbling).
The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them
Hi,
This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it
passed near the skydiver beneath him.
Ron
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I agree it is possible. The resolution and focus of the GoPro camera is well
capabile of making that video. Terminal velocity is around 120mph and the diver
would be traveling about the same as the rock at that height.
Stuart McDaniel
.(i.mobile)..
On Apr 3, 2014, at 15:34, MEM
Not the same, there are a hundred million cars in the USA to hit, countless
millions of houses, how many skydivers in the air at any given time on the
planet? Perhaps 50 or so?
Doesn't seem likely to me.
Michael Farmer
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On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com
List,
Meteoritic iron has been idendified as
the material of some small Egyptian relics
since the 1800's. The oldest is 9 beads
from two graves in Gerzah (3500 BC):
http://www.gizapyramid.com/meteorite.htm
King Tut had'em. He also had tektite
(Libyan Desert Glass) jewelry.
Sterling Webb
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No different the guy being in the air filming to being on the
groundmillions of cameras recording these days...so the chance of
one being filmed on the way down is improving all the time...just
because he was in the air does not make it less likely than any other
camera around the world.
Hi,
in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a
supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further
skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the
statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single
I too believe it is possible HOWEVER:
I would more easily believe that two Norwegian parachutists would lie than
that stones would fall from heaven!
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I would more easily believe that two Yankee
...does not say it could have occured. -
Sorry, I fogot a NOT: A low (a priori) probability does not say, the single
event could _NOT_ have occurred.
Greetings, Martin
Martin Neukamm martin.neuk...@mytum.de wrote:
Hi,
in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were
Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be
produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric
acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most
acoustics as well.
Chris
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Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly
slowly with respect to terminal velocity.
Chris
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On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote:
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM,
Nothing but an intelligent April Fool - well done! :-)
There´s a bit tooo much smile on all the faces, the
falling stone scene is way too unrealistic, and I believe,
this is just a brilliant hoax done by people (like Morten)
with a lot of humour, phantasy and technical skills...
Alex
I agree with you Alex.
An April's fool day joke, just a little late.
Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
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Sent:
Hello Phil, Sterling, List,
See also:
Burke J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, p. 230.
Johnson D. et al. (2013) Analysis of a prehistoric Egyptian iron bead
with implications for the use and perception of meteorite iron in ancient
Egypt (MAPS 48-06, 2013 June, pp. 997-1006).
It certainly could be a hoax. If so, however, it's instructional,
because it seems technically accurate. Most people trying to fake
something like this would probably have flames and smoke coming off the
object. That's what we typically see with fakes.
Chris
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Ha
Maybe it was April Fools'Day?
;-)
Woreczko
http://www.woreczko.pl
http://wiki.meteoritica.pl
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Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:08 PM
Let's consider the probability of a skydiver filming a meteoroid in dark flight
compared to his buddy just above him dropping a rock.
Double facepalm,
Phil Whitmer
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Sent: Thursday,
I just don't see how the camera
could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what,
300+ mph minimum? How
could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second.
It is just all to crazy to believe.
Michael Farmer
Do not forget that both meteorite (if genuine)
Of course, as I said earlier, there are much more likely scenarios than
a meteorite. I was just taking exception with any blind assertion that
this was fake, absent clear evidence of such.
Chris
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I agree fully that is most likely explanation.
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On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi,
This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it
passed near the skydiver beneath him.
Ron
Now we're talking! Seems like elaborate lie to me.
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On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Paul Gessler cetu...@shaw.ca wrote:
I too believe it is possible HOWEVER:
I would more easily believe that two Norwegian parachutists would lie than
that stones would fall from heaven!
The jumper already has his shoot open. An expert diver with a high
performance shoot could still be going very fast, of course, but in all
likelihood there would be a pretty good delta-v in this case (it looks
like his jumping partner sails past pretty quickly still in free fall).
Chris
I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite. ;)
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Forgot to mention this one:
Johnson D. et al. (2013) Iron from the Sky: Meteorites
in Ancient Egypt (Meteorite, Winter 2013, pp. 8-13).
Cheers, Bernd
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If this were so, it would be quite an irresponsible action, just as if someone
dropped a big stone from a cliff or a skyscraper, not caring for any
potentially
valuable things or even living persons on the ground. I hope this was not so,
and
I still believe that this was nothing but a
Hello Listers
What I don't get is this happened in 2012 and now its coming out? I wonder if
there is any evidence with sonic booms or other key elements to back this story
up? Cause of right now I think its just a small rock that came from some ones
parachute when it opened up or a big hoax.
Some math wiz is going to prove thisI kind of have a feeling..
My voteNot a meteor.
Jim
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Hello Listers
Here is an abstract from an article from MAPS on the Egyptian beads down below.
Shawn Alan
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
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Analysis of a prehistoric Egyptian iron bead with implications for the use and
perception of meteorite
The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone
with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these
days.
Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut
by a meteorite?
The news eats this crap up as fast as it
Pretty good production work (I saw Star Wars one time, and thoroughly
enjoyed the epic award-winning animation Bolt (you've all gotta see
it...its great!)...yet s many posts I'm not going to wade through them
all.
Meteorite in the room question (which probably has already been posted):
Never know wing-suit divers to ride tandem, either.
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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-104
NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Scoping Out Next Study Area
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
April 03, 2014
On Wednesday, NASA's Curiosity Mars rover drove the last 98 feet feet
(30 meters) needed to arrive at a site planned since early 2013 as a
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