Don't laugh (and yes, OT):
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/23/mussolinis_brain/
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Mike Hankey wrote:
can't wait till they hit ebay!
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
Related and morbid but interesting...
...(CNN) -- Two fingers cut from
UFO Crash Lands? Dear dear... ;-)
Darren Garrison wrote:
http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/Article.aspx/1351790?UserKey=
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Lots of pictures of meteorites. No charge. No advertising or selling
anything. No abuse, no limericks (although I think they may be worth a
page...)
Meh. Have a look.
http://meteorites.cc/
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A good-sized specimen from the NHM London:
http://meteorites.cc/nhm-images/bv/murch3.jpg
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ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Hi All,
Murhison is listed as having a TKW of over 100kg and yet there is very little
available for collectors...did most of it end up in labs or are collectors and
Mike, I don't understand what point you're trying to make here.
IMCA is IMCA, MetList is an open email forum (very lightly) moderated by
Art. They are not in any way related, other than the obvious fact that
the community is small, many IMCA members are list members, and vice versa.
If
Bill,
Get over yourself and try to find another outlet for your sad and
misdirected bile.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery,
Mark
michael cottingham wrote:
Hello,
http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
Great Deals Abound!
Michael Cottingham
On Apr 30, 2009, at 3:45 PM,
I read a definition of a fall as being where the meteor is 'usually seen
as a fireball' before it lands and is recovered. Obviously, I thought,
it needs to be seen burning up - that's the very definition of a fall.
I then considered that the definition would strictly be 'observed' to
fall.
Actually, it would make a great name for a meteorite ;-)
Carl 's wrote:
I like the sound of Dam Hammer myself. It would make a great ebay name or TV series.
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Hey Carl,
If you assume that the date range could easily be 5 years either side
(your lady isn't a teenager!), MetBase lists 19 iron meteorites in the
US between those. None were falls, and none were in NY.
If you ignore irons and look at all falls in the US between 1923 and
1933, MetBase
Michael Gilmer wrote:
I posted about some indochinites that I bought from a vendor in Hong Kong.
After doing some research on
the seller, I discovered that he had been red-flagged in the past for selling fake moldavite. Well, they arrived. And they are real.
I don't want to sound
Whoa, Michael :)
Pierre said he hoped it wouldn't be purchased by someone who would use
the information for his business - which isn't the same as saying not
to a dealer. In fact, in the original posting, he explicitly said he'd
prefer to sell to an IMCA member or a well-known meteorite
I was reflecting yesterday on the fun I get showing my collection to
guests, and talking about meteorites to non-hobbyists. It got me
thinking that there are some standard questions which come up time and
again.
* Where do you get them from? [One of the few opportunities to use
the line 'I
Try http://www.dead-links.com/
Mark
David Kitt Deyarmin wrote:
I had to migrate my web site to a new server and had to go into all of
the pages associated with my site to change the URLS.
If you are very good at surfing and have lots of time on you hands
please verify that I don;t have
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/7795381.stm
(OK, it was a little while back :) )
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When I started out, a wise man told me, I can only say two things about
this hobby: it'll become an obsession, and your wife will never
understand. :)
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Greg Hupe wrote:
Hi Harry,
I think the name would be Passionate Obsessed *Nut* Meteoritophile
Enthusiasts!
Greg
- Original
Michael Gilmer wrote:
I will soon be starting a Yahoo discussion group to lay the groundwork
for a new meteorite group.
Why?
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You so need to get out more, Mike ;-)
Mike Bandli wrote:
It also allows one to employ the ultimate geek pick-up line: Excuse me, Miss, allow me to open that Coors Light with my meteorite for you.
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I click on the link, I get a brief image of Gujba, and then (without
clicking anything) I get a full page of advertisments.
Comment: Not for me.
Michael Gilmer wrote:
Installment #1 Nov, 18, 2008 -
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
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I got a note today from someone in N Texas who reckons she saw four
fireballs last night. I'm sure list folks have had many such emails over
the years.
Rather than try to list all the possible things that it might/might not
have been, does anyone have a link to a site with beginners' guide to
A picture of the train left behind by the above asteroid appears to have
come to light:
http://tinyurl.com/6bn4tq
More details at today's http://www.spaceweather.com
Mark
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Very nice, I WANT that big one! :)
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Fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Every body, Check It Out! Tom
In a message dated 10/29/2008 12:09:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi List,
Below some links to Bassikounou photographs I made. Thought
Saw this posted on a UK astro site, it's quite neat:
http://down2earth.eu/impact_calculator/
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So, I'm guessing this is the first time such an event has actually been
predicted?
Bizarre seeing the ephemeris just... stop!
Sterling K. Webb wrote:
Hi, All!
Rob Matson asked to forward this to the list
as he apparently cannot post it. A remarkable
event, well... Read it.
A shame it's not
So is the link broken, or removed on the back of Adam's reply?
Mark
Ruben Garcia wrote:
Hi all,
I have a few Semi-Famous Meteorites for sale.
Take a look and email me of list.
http://www.mr-meteorite.com/famousmeteorites4sale.htm
Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7623411.stm
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From which NHM?
Mark
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Evening all,
I received a really nice 100g Bass from Mike Jensen today, oriented,
lovely crust and rollover lip. Here's a couple of images for those
who're interested.
http://meteorites.cc/bassroll.jpg
http://meteorites.cc/bass-detail.jpg
Cheers,
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Check 'Falls', put '*' in search box and hit search.
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RJP wrote:
Does anyone know of a global database that lists every recorded witnessed fall
with TKW info, ect?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Ryan
I'm going to be in Amsterdam this weekend, I wondered if any list
members know of any museums with meteorites on display.
I've checked with MetBase which suggests some exhibits are on display at
the Zeiss Planetarium - can anyone confirm or suggest an alternative?
If so pls contact me
Morning folks,
Members of the British Irish Meterorite Society (BIMS) yesterday
visited the meteorite collection at the Natural History Museum in
London. I've posted a page with photos and a little background.
http://meteorites.cc/ - first link at the top of the page
Best,
Mark
Yup, have a look at Heavens Above (http://www.heavens-above.com) and
check back previous 48 hours for your location.
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That sounds an awful lot like an Iridium flare.
Mark
Bob Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
About 1 hour ago (somewhere
A related question I pondered a while back: How big does an object
need to be to be a 'parent body'? Is the meteorite ever the full
remnant of the PB?
In other words, can something be big and coherent enough to survive
passage through the atmosphere and produce a meteorite, which hasn't
Great pictures Desmond. Those big irons, in particular, are beautiful.
Mark
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all,
Please see the link below of my recent visit to the Western Australian
Museum while I was back home in Perth.
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I don't, personally, see it as a hard distinction. The labels are more
for convenience - comets tend to be 'wetter and oilier', and more
often are in eccentric orbits. Asteroids tend not to exhibit coma/tail
because in a more stable orbits, they would either have lost most of
their
http://tinyurl.com/4kwbvm http://tinyurl.com/4kwbvm
Includes very cool impact video.
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This got me thinking... some of the lunar impacts are being attributed
to well-known meteor showers.
Are there any good candidates for (earthly) meteorites which may be part
of such showers, and therefore potentially once part of the presumed
parent body? I guess candidate criteria would be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also believe it to be exactly the same
kind as what the air force described to be an alien space craft which
crashed in roswell, New mexico in 1967, I believe.[...]
They also reported finding aliens
You couldn't make it up, could you? Suggest they take it to
Very purty! :)
Michael L Blood wrote:
I am informed the photo link I sent on the AZ Eucrite did
Not work. Please try this one and click on small image for
Larger one:
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Evening list,
As part of my attempts to lean more about our common interest, I've been
reading up and trying to get my head round some basic mineralogy - in
particular using thin-section microscopy.
I wondered if any members had any old sections, perhaps
dirty/cracked/damaged, or some
Hi all,
I've listed a couple dozen specimens, mainly micros. There are a few
rare types (OD, a nice L3.2, EL6, NWA 960 - H/L/LL3), some nice
American pieces (Gruver, Belle Plaine, Tulia), 2 micros of Cold
Bokkeveld, and some small Gaos. All still at 99p, ending in a few days.
I've been trying to collate just such a list Mike, so I'm keen to see
what comes back. Here's my part-list so far - it's absolutely not to be
considered definitive, but may spur further reading:
http://meteorites.cc/misc/cand-par.htm
Mark
Michael Gilmer wrote:
Hi folks!
Can someone help
I'm reading Paul Davies' The Fifth Miracle. In chapter 6 it refers to
the 1996 discovery by Taylor, Baggaley and Steel of inter-stellar dust
particles entering the earth's atmosphere in the form of fast (
70-km/s) meteors:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v380/n6572/abs/380323a0.html
It
There's a PDF of the full paper linked from the abstract. If the results
are correct (it's 12 years old, I don't know if the findings have been
challenged since) then we would seem to have a steady stream of
interstellar particles from at least 2 discrete extra-solar sources.
I wonder if
And, presumably, a lot of oats and hay :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sterling:
You forgot overnight mail; Pony Express. It took 11 days (Missouri to
California) and initially cost $5.00 for 1/2 oz. Assuming beer was 2 bits
(25 cents), that is a lot of beer!
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I've admired the images of thin sections posted on the list since I
joined last year. I thought I'd have a go at seeing what I could achieve
on a very low budget. I had fun, and thought some of you might enjoy
reading about it.
http://meteorites.cc/xpl/xpl.html
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Hi folks,
After seeing one of Adam's Chassy specks go on eBay for the eye-watering
figure of ~$87,000/g, I wondered what the most expensive price paid for
a specimen was?
I suppose it's two questions - the highest dollar price/gram (and I
suppose Chassigny might take this even off eBay),
Utter rot.
Why should meteorites be different from any other cultural or scientific
heritage? Viewed from a slightly broader view than we sometimes do on
this list, meteorites are items of both financial and scientific value.
None of us have any god-given right to own them, whether they come
I guess the question here is, do sellers have a right to anonymity, and
if so, when does it outweigh the buyer's right to provenance?
As a collector I'm delighted to have more provenance, because it add to
the interest of the piece, the future value, and gives me even more
confidence that
One thing which I think the IMCA could do to give a lead here is some
kind of new collectors' guide. I joined about a year ago, not long
after I started collecting, as I correctly worked out that I'd want to
trade on some of my specimens at some point, and wanted to do as much as
possible to
For me it's mainly the old historic falls. I love the way they link us
back in a chain through time, across different countries, languages,
different philosophies and world-views which were extant at that point.
I also like poring over the surviving records of the time.
That fact that many
ROFLMAO :)
Martin Altmann wrote:
And I need some galaxies on my belly,
Then I can demonstrate the expanding universe.
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We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :)
Greg Hupe wrote:
What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying
Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the
dollar, what
An opportunity.
I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and
4522 is one of the most beautiful chondrites I've seen in my (limited)
collecting experience. Here's a composite of a few of my slices:
http://meteorites.cc/nwa4522-col.jpg
Mark
Pete Pete wrote:
Absolutely beautiful, Carsten!
Pictures to save, for sure.
What does the fusion crust look
Heavens Above (http://www.heavens-above.com/) gives details of passes
for 193, as well as the ISS, shuttle, Iridium satellites, etc for your
location.
Mark
Jerry wrote:
Sorry this is late but thought it interesting to the group. I was
bummed because it was raining last night so I didn't see
Hey Tim,
I don't know about 'fully' oriented, but according to Norton ~5% of
stony meteorites show 'some degree' of orientation, and that irons are
(helpfully!) 'sometimes' oriented. He attributes to Nininger an
estimate that 28% of irons are oriented, but doesn't define the degree
of
I've a few lots in auction on eBay at the moment, all micros.
They include a beautiful part slice of DaG 082 CO3, a nice slice of the
Ureilite Dhofar 132, a really pretty NWA 989 CV3, some planetaries, and
small fragments of Kesen and Agen historic falls.
It's also recycled - the story first appeared in Aug 2004 (Google
Pauline Aguss, the woman in question).
M
Jason Utas wrote:
Hola Laurence, All,
Seems unlikely; here's a picture of the stone:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article93341.ece
Doesn't look very good...
Regards,
Jason
Cool pics Steve, thanks for sharing.
Mark
steve arnold wrote:
Hi again list.It has been another long day.Still
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Hi Matt,
Thanks a lot for the comprehensive report. Look forward to hearing more.
Mark
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Hi Bob:
I can give you a brief update.
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Good grief, Adam - it's /enormous/!
Adam Hupe wrote:
Dear List Members,
I promised some images of the only complete slice
taken from NWA 5000, The Cosmic Masterpiece. The
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If you haven't had the chance to read McSween I highly recommend it as
well as Richard Norton's Rocks From Space,
Harvey Nininger's book Find a Falling Star and there are a few others
that are worthy of mention at a later date or
perhaps members will chime in and offer their suggestions. All my
If it's an alien, it's a /very small//alien:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/207495main_Spirit.jpg
(you can just make it out bottom left)
wayne holmes wrote:
Hello all
Well!! for one opinion, I believe its the Engineer and train wreck
parts from the Franconia Strewn Field. Some believe
I have to admit I'm torn over this one. In terms of bang-per-buck
(certainly in the short- to mid-term), there's no question that unmanned
orbiters/landers can generate more science, and investigate more
targets, than manned flight will over the next couple of decades. In a
bunfight over
I imagine because for smaller orders it's not worth the hassle and extra
cost?
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
or why you have never sent pack with registered mail how had
I asked in my case?
Matteo
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Hi folks,
On another forum someone posted about a recent TV programme he'd watched
about NEOs. At the end the guest astronomer said something to the
effect that the first we know about an incoming impactor could be the
high-pitched scream as it speeds through the atmosphere.
It got me
Doug,
That's very cool. I must have a play with it when I have a bit of time.
From the look of the data files on the DIY Map site, it should also be
reasonably easy to update once it's set up.
I played with Google Maps earlier by grabbing and then manually adding
layers in Photoshop for
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a (free, ideally) tool to let me map out my colleciton.
The kind of thing I'm after is just something which will colour up
countries from where I have speciments, drop map-pins at long/lat
co-ordinates of falls, etc. Nothing fancy. I keep my inventory in
Excel so
Jeff/Pierre-Marie/Larry,
Thanks for your replies. I know about Google Earth and the links from
the MetBul db. I'm really after something a little (graphically)
plainer and more tailorable.
On a similar note, how do people catalogue their collections? Is there
any preferred software out
Anyone mind if I get out some popcorn and settle back to watch the fun...?
:-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
And you are probably going to hear from each and every one of them
And those are real women, with a functioning brain.
Right, ladies?
Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all,
I've finally pulled my collection pages into some kind of shape, with
plenty photos and an emphasis on historical context notes for the older
falls. Hope some of you find them interesting:
http://meteorites.cc
(Please point out any errors or omissions off-list. Thanks).
Mark
John/list,
At the risk of sounding naive, why /wouldn't/ you pay for professional
classification? If Bessey's fee of around $80 is typical (and I admit,
I don't know if that's the case), why would you risk lost samples or
interminable delays? Why not just add an extra buck/gramme to the
Go asteroid :)
The impact probability for a collision of asteroid 2007 WD5 with Mars on
January 30 has increased from 1.3% to 3.9%.
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A very interesting and informative page Bob, thanks.
Have the rules re naming of coincidental falls/finds changed at some
point? I'm thinking of Zacatecas (1792) vs (1969) - both finds but with
a designation which would indicate a fall, on the current rules. Cf, eg
Wethersfield (1971) vs
It's interesting to speculate on the effect a second massive, observed
planetary impact in 15 years (or 3 in 100, if you count Tunguska) would
have on policy makers. One might expect that it would redouble
investment in the search for, and technologies for dealing with, PHAs.
One might hope
I thought the list might be interested in seeing some pictures from the
Natural History Museum in London.
They've recently refurbished the Mineral Gallery and there are some
fantastic meteorites on display (including a large specimen of Nahkla,
one of the Martian 'holy grail' candidates):
And here's a close-up of the one in the photo:
http://annasach.net/meteorites.cc/nwa%204522.jpg
It's beautiful material!
Mark
Jeff Kuyken wrote:
Hi Jerry,
Here's a page about them:
www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/BleachedChondrules.html
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I wondered that too (and don't know the answer). There are a few less
striking examples on the slice which show similar 'cracks'.
Jerry wrote:
In the close-up fine web like structures seem to emenate from the
circumference.
Is this an artifact created in cutting and polishing or it is
HOW much?
£34k?
*boggle*
Martin Altmann wrote:
But I can't help, am I the only one, who find these meteorite Rolexes very
ugly? Btw. what a weak etch.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-MASTERPIECE-TRIDOR-METEORITE-DIAMOND-DIAL_W0QQitem
Don't know about seismic, but it appears to have shown up on infrasonic:
[from spaceweather.com]
*PERUVIAN METEORITE UPDATE: *On Sept. 15th, a fireball streaked across
the skies of Peru and soon thereafter a watery crater
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2007/08oct07/crater.jpg was
In the name of sanity, can you please take this off-list?
Mark
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
everytime ridiculus...if I well remember I have put a
messagge of collection update at 2-3 months agoor I have
to ask the permito to you for put similar messagges?
Matteo
- Original
Hi folks,
I have some small lots on sale, all still at very affordable prices.
Most are low/very low TKW NWAs, including a very nice NWA 091 L6 showing
great vesiculation, and a really nice NWA 3154 H3.9 with lovely chondrules.
MexicoDoug wrote:
Hello Francis, you can buy one of Dr. Hieronymus' machines here for $600, if
you want to do further experimentation:
http://www.lifetechnology.org/hieronymus.htm
There's one born every minute :)
I wonder how many of those units they sell?
Hey Mike,
It's a thin atmosphere, but Mars does /have/ an atmosphere - it's about
1% the density of Earth's. At the kind of speeds we're talking about, I
don't see why ablation would be a problem. Space probes such as the
ill-fated Beagle 2 use a heatshield for the initial entry prior to
On a similar point... what size would meteorites have to be to have a
chance of being found on the moon? Small ones would vapourise, large
ones would vapourise a lot of the sirface material... is it possible
that any recognisable fragments would survive?
Chris Peterson wrote:
But Mars does
Spoilsport ;-)
Michael Farmer wrote:
Of course, crater-forming meteorites would start
fires, I mean meteorite falls in general. Crater-
forming extinction-causing meteorites are not what I
am talking about.
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A gag I read 30 years ago in a kids' science book - I've tried it - it's
now non-PC, but it works. Take a small piece of ice from the freezer.
Find a stooge. Light a cigarette. Tell stooge he/she is perfectly
safe. Turn stooge away from you.
Very briefly apply ice to back of stooge's
drtanuki wrote:
Mark,
Have you bothered to read the post by Bill and Ken Newton of Steve`s history of posts?
Yes. And I searched the archives. I actually read through the archives
before I signed up for the list.
In fact, I signed up for the list /despite/ the content of the archives
The guy actually said uncleaned - maybe not great English, but
obviously meaning /not/ clean as opposed to /un/clean.
Seriously - if Steve annoys you that much, can't you work out how to set
up a killfile? It's a lot easier than composing a smart-ass,
humiliating reply to every post he
Evening gang,
I have a few lots on eBay ending in the next 24 hrs, including micros of
Barwell and Hessle, and a nice polished slice of NWA. Nothing fancy,
but maybe something for the beginner or micro collector:
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZduineukQQhtZ-1
Best
Mark
PS - ignore the
This link is better - apologies:
http://collectables.search.ebay.co.uk/_Rocks-Fossils-Minerals_W0QQcatrefZC12QQsacatZ3213QQsassZduineuk
Mark
Mark Crawford wrote:
Evening gang,
I have a few lots on eBay ending in the next 24 hrs, including micros
of Barwell and Hessle, and a nice polished
As for 'funniest dealers' I think this guy has a good shot:
http://myworld.ebay.com/gospel-serve/
Ken Newton wrote:
Matteo and newbies on the List,
This is the same nut job discussed under the thread
'the funniest dealer I've seen' last April.
He currently has 25 suspect wrongs being
Brilliant photos Peter, I may have to come along next year :-)
Best,
Mark
Peter Marmet wrote:
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id23.html
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id24.html
Please tell me the missing / wrong names, thank you!
Best regards, Peter
I get more convinced as time passes, that we *will*
find either active or fossil life forms on Mars in my lifetime.
Don't kid yourself Mark,
Did you ever do that calculation in physics where you If not, it works out that
the chances are that you
have to leave the box for something like
Spaceguard wrote:
We are seeing increasing numbers of Tsunami's, Volcanic eruptions and
Earthquakes even here in England we are experiencing this.
There is absolutely no evidence of any of this, especially in England!
True... Tim's right about this bit though: :-)
One really sad thing I
Do you really need to ask the question? There's no question that it
would be bought, sold, and that the provenance would increase the value.
Would I want to own a sample? I'm not sure*. I'd like to think not,
but I suspect I'd start asking questions like can you guarantee that
/this
Hi folks,
I recently bought a small piece of Mt Egerton, which I discovered has a
small label attached reading DYM 3.1:
http://annasach.net/imgs/dym.jpg
Any suggestions as to interpretation - a museum, perhaps, or specific
collector?
Mark
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Hey Bill,
What is it with some of the people on this distribution? According to
the met-list About, this is...
/...with over 600 members, the best place to get information on rocks
from space!/
I'm old on astronomy, and newish on meteorites. I joined thinking I'd
get information on
Hi Dean/list,
Interesting post. This might sound like a naive question - humour me,
I'm new to this - but can anyone give even an approximate answer to
these questions?
1 - estimated TKW of /all/ meteorites known to have fallen, to date
...and, I guess, much more difficult:
2 - estimated
I can't speak to the specifics of which metal maps to which colour, but
there are definite colour varations on the lunar surface which can be
imaged.
With a programme like Virtual Moon Atlass (free download) you can
highlight areas high in Iron, Hydrogen, Potassium etc. There's a photo
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