Good morning list,
Do freshly fallen irons and stony-irons, have any kind of crust on them? if they
do, what does the crust typically look like on these meteorites?
I can recall seeing charred iron before...
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-Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada!
Ever see a good, fresh Sikhote-Aline?
I am sure several list members can refer you to several very
Cool photos.
I am sure there are others but they don't jump to the mind
Of this dude at this time ~ S-A is Classic for iron fusion crust.
Michael
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Good morning list,
Do freshly fallen irons and stony-irons, have any kind of crust on them? if
they do, what does the crust typically look like on these meteorites?
I can recall seeing charred iron before...
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-Melanie MetMel
Verzonden: maandag 23 mei 2011 12:02
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Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Fusion crust on irons?
Good morning list,
Do freshly fallen irons and stony-irons, have any kind of crust on them? if
they do, what does the crust typically look like on these meteorites?
I can recall
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From: Phil Whitmer prairiecac...@rtcol.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Fusion Crust on Irons--Not; Buchwald Diagram
According to Buchwald:
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From: Phil Whitmer prairiecac...@rtcol.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:29 PM
Subject: Fusion Crust on Irons--Not; Buchwald Diagram
According to Buchwald:
Hi Elton,
I think it is that thin coating of magnetite that most folks are calling a
fusion crust on fresh irons...what else can it be called?
As you say, unfortunately it is quite fragile and on most irons it flakes or
comes off after very little time in our climate, so most of those
...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von MEM
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. November 2009 04:31
An: Meteorites USA; metlist
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
Stopping in a few minutes to state again that all this discussion about
fusion crust
...@meteoritesusa.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
Stopping in a few minutes to state again that all this discussion about
fusion crust on irons is right next to unicorns postulations. Everyone says
that fusion crust on irons exists but no one can
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. November 2009 04:31
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Stopping
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
Unlike in politics and public opinion (and sometimes in science),
in meteoritics
it sometimes can be more difficult to adhere to theories/legends,
if one gets
If I'm not mistaken. The crust shown on Sikhotes may well be a true fusion
crust because sikhote does contain some silicate minerals within it.
It is the irons without silicates that cannot produce a true fusion crust. And
as Elton said, Nobody has ever shown one of these non-silicate irons
Carl, I need some help here. Which one of these elements or minerals is in
the silicate group?
Sikhote-Alin is a coarse iron octahedrite. Its composition is as follows: 5.9%
nickel, 0.42 % cobalt, 0.46% phosphorus, 0.28% sulfur, smaller amounts of
germanium and iridium, and the remainder
:
From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
To: mstrema...@yahoo.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com,
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:04 AM
Elton:
Take a look - the Smithsonian classifies
stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons--Not
To: mstrema...@yahoo.com, e...@meteoritesusa.com,
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:04 AM
Elton:
Take a look
Stopping in a few minutes to state again that all this discussion about fusion
crust on irons is right next to unicorns postulations. Everyone says that
fusion crust on irons exists but no one can come up with the proof.
Non-silicate bearing irons DO NOT/CANNOT have FUSION crust: they have a
Hi all,
With all the talk about melting and twisting of metal on the Sikhote
Alin meteorite it got me to wondering what very fresh fusion crust looks
like on an iron meteorite. I mean like the day it fell fresh, and not
like the Sikhote.
Everyone here pretty much knows what fresh crust
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Meteorites USA
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 18:18
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Hi all
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Meteorites USA
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 18:18
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Hi
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 18:48
An: Martin Altmann
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Hi Martin, Thank you for sharing...
Those
-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Fat, dull, rough, dark-grey to dark-brown.
Boguslavka:
http://www.fmm.ru/metpictures/bogus.jpg
Cabin Creek
http://www.austromet.com/Museum_24082005_07.jpg
Treysa
http://www.gi-po.de/meteorit_treysa_1g.jpg
Sikhote-Alin
Hi Eric,
Here are a few closeup pics of fusion crust on the iron named Bogou:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2009/august/Accretion_Desk.htm
Best,
Martin H.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
Hi all,
With all the talk about melting
Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org
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To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:34:47 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Fat, dull
http://www.rocksfromspace.org
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From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:34:47 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Fat, dull, rough
] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi Eric,
Here are a few closeup pics of fusion crust on the iron named Bogou:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2009/august/Accretion_Desk.htm
Best,
Martin H.
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
wrote:
Hi all,
With all
: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:34:47 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Fat, dull, rough, dark-grey to dark-brown.
Boguslavka:
http://www.fmm.ru/metpictures/bogus.jpg
Cabin Creek
http://www.austromet.com/Museum_24082005_07.jpg
Treysa
http://www.gi-po.de
yes indeedy
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From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:59 PM
To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:59 PM
To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Good example of S-A:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30591...@n04/2983976145/sizes/o/
Michael
Ooh...very nice detail, Jason!
Linton
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From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hey,
Here's another Sikhote
Hello Mike, All,
Ground conditions can vary so greatly that I'd have to say that I have no
real idea.
Given the little research I've put in, I'd say that the ground in the
vicinity of the Campo fall might have better drainage, receive less annual
rainfall (cumulatively anyways), or simply be less
Hi Jason,
Thanks for your thorough and I might say persuasive commentary on
fusion crusted irons. I did note one possible discordant data.
Campo del Cielo is an approximately 5000 year old fall and Nantan is
500 years old. Is the Nantan region so much worse (wetter?) that no
fusion
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Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Only one of them,
they aren't relatives.
And honestly - if you bother, when you get a pallasite, which costed
before
10-15$/g at 300$/kg; a CO3 fall, which costed before 50-150$/g at 2.5$/g;
a
MES; which
, December 04, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively
claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet, in Norton's Rocks From
Space,
[pg 167 in my softbound edition] it clearly
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Only one of them,
they aren't relatives.
And honestly - if you bother, when you get a pallasite, which costed
before
10-15$/g at 300$/kg; a CO3 fall, which costed before 50-150$/g at 2.5
] On Behalf Of
JKGwilliam
Sent: 05 December 2006 04:19
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Does anyone besides me believe that many of the Sikhote-Alin irons have
been doctored to look better than they really
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Does anyone besides me
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I WANT it!
Gary the Drooler
On 5 Dec 2006 at 0:06, Martin Altmann wrote:
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html
John asked Does anyone besides me believe that many of the Sikhote-Alin
irons have
been doctored to look better than they really are?
Yes, I would say most experienced collectors understand they have been
doctored. Also, it appears to me the doctoring about five years ago, when
Sikhotes were
And if I look back - most Russian suppliers always sold extremely cleaned
Sikhotes, brushed, tmbled, etched and grinded down until the iron was a
shiny silver. I never liked that style, but I observed, as Sikhote-Alin was
always the first choice of non-meteoriticistical buyers, that they got
And if I look back - most Russian suppliers always sold extremely cleaned
Sikhotes, brushed, tmbled, etched and grinded down until the iron was a
shiny silver. I never liked that style, but I observed, as Sikhote-Alin was
always the first choice of non-meteoriticistical buyers, that they got
.
Bill
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Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:01:24 +0100
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi John,
no, I'd doubt that. At those prices having paid during the last 5 years
, 6. Dezember 2006 08:19
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Didn't those heroes charge a pretty steep shipping charge for even the
smallest particle? I suppose the smart buyer bought according to the
combined offer but what about the hundreds
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet, in Norton's Rocks From Space,
[pg 167 in my softbound edition] it clearly states the following;
Iron meteorites have the thinnest crust of all, usually only a small
fraction
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From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet
:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet, in Norton's Rocks From Space,
[pg 167 in my softbound edition] it clearly states the following;
Iron
, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Thanks for clearing that up Doug. I've always felt a bit dumb talking
about fusion crust
and irons.
Gary
On 4 Dec 2006 at 13:59, MexicoDoug wrote:
Hi Gary,
Fusion crust can be in the eyes of the beholder, so
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From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim
Crust on irons...most definitely! This Sikhote has THICK crust in some of
the regmaglypts. Thick enough that you can chip it off. It's like Blued Gun
Metal.
http://www.astro-artifacts.com/Astroartifacts/Collection/SIKHOTE-296,14g.jpg
Kind regards,
Mike Bandli
Beautiful sikhote. I love the blue sheen most of them have.
Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealres.com
On 4 Dec 2006 at 14:54, Mike Bandli wrote:
Crust on irons...most definitely! This Sikhote has THICK crust in some of
the regmaglypts. Thick enough that you can chip it off. It's like Blued Gun
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html
Buckleboo!
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Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
Boguslavka!!! Great iron, great Neumann lines (IIAB Hex)! Hey, I´m most
critical regarding irons potentially rusting. But this has been a very stable
one ever since it resides in my collection. In case Chladni´s heirs have
I WANT it!
Gary the Drooler
On 5 Dec 2006 at 0:06, Martin Altmann wrote:
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html
Buckleboo!
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Crust on irons...most definitely! This Sikhote has THICK crust in some of
the regmaglypts. Thick enough that you can chip it off. It's like Blued Gun
WOW Martin, somehow I missed Dec 1. What a beauty!
Jerry Flaherty
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:06 PM
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I am in agreement with Martin. This is a myth that we
shouldn't allow to perpetuate on the list. An
Iron/siderite my have an original ablation surface, as
well as flow characteristics but won't have a fusion
crust. There are many reasons I won't go into about
why iron doesn't have the
: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi Mike,
Interesting you should say that. I remember a discussion on the list a few
years ago as to whether or not some Sikhote-Alins had been blued to improve
their appearance.
-Walter Branch
- Original Message -
From: Mike
, December 04, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Crusty the Clown crows:
www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/BoguslavkaCrust1.jpg
Boguslavka!!! Great iron, great Neumann lines (IIAB Hex)! Hey, I´m most
critical regarding irons potentially rusting. But this has been a very
Anyone have an artificially blued meteorite to post?
Here is an image of two specimens from my collection:
http://www.astrometrica.at/Images/SikhoteCrust.jpg
(Sorry, the image is not perefect. But hey, it's 1:30 AM here...!)
The top specimen looks like most of the pieces available in the
: Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 01:06
An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons was AD- Coins etc.
I am in agreement with Martin. This is a myth that we
shouldn't allow to perpetuate on the list. An
Iron/siderite my have an original
seen from some achondrites, which is the classic...
Best wishes, Doug
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From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I
...
Best wishes, Doug
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From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list
[meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
Gary K. Foote
Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:27:19 -0800
Hi All,
Recently I have read a few posts to this list that definitively claim that
irons do not form a fusion crust. Yet, in Norton's Rocks From Space,
[pg 167 in my softbound edition] it clearly states
Does anyone besides me believe that many of the Sikhote-Alin irons have
been doctored to look better than they really are? Over the past several
years I've heard several stories (rumors) that a lot of creative work has
been used to make some of the SAs look as good as they do. One of the
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