Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-04 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, This makes a lot of sense. It would appear that the cartoon dog was probably named FOR the planet, as this name would have been in the news at the time -- the discovery of the planet was a sensation everybody talked about! Walt was just cashing in on the free publicity. Just like him.

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-04 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi, This makes a lot of sense. It would appear that the cartoon dog was probably named FOR the planet, as this name would have been in the news at the time -- the discovery of the planet was a sensation everybody talked

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread MexicoDoug
Sterling W. wrote: Then, there would then be three classes of planets: the Terrestrial, the Jovian, and the Plutonian planets. Hola Sterling; I'm on board with just one reservation. With all this hullabaloo going on about with Pluto in the spotlight and reticence to accept these huge,

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 02:11:55 -0500, Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three, he's IN THE RIGHT here. I happen to agree with this myself and I thought so before I ever heard Brown's name. I said to my self, I said, Self, if it's twice as big as Pluto (a planet), then it's a planet!

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Ron Baalke
Two, 2003UB313 IS a planet under the rules that were in effect at the time of discovery. There is no formal definition for a planet, and that it the crux of the problem. The IAU will be providing a formal definition soon. You don't change the rules after the game is over because you

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Martin Altmann
to Decide What Makes a Planet Two, 2003UB313 IS a planet under the rules that were in effect at the time of discovery. There is no formal definition for a planet, and that it the crux of the problem. The IAU will be providing a formal definition soon. You don't change the rules after

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
I suggested Persephone. http://www.newscientistspace.com/channel/solar-system/dn7776 Join the battle of the planet names 12:51 02 August 2005 NewScientist.com news service Sean O'Neill Imagine your excitement if you discovered a new planet. The privilege of suggesting its name would be

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Darren, Brown wanted Persephone, too. But it's taken, years ago, by a MINOR planet. ORCUS, a Greek name for the Afterlife is already taken by another really big KBO, 2000DW. Eurydice? Elysium? Minos? Hades? The Underworld names seems too negative for a happy object. They may all

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Ron, You'll notice that I put quotes around the word rules. Yes, there is no formal definition for a planet. There never has been, only a working understanding of what was meant. There were differences; it has been a topic of discussion. But, there are working rules, by which I

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Ron Baalke
Hi, Ron, You'll notice that I put quotes around the word rules. You also referred to is a game, which is not. Any classification scheme can be revised - and in fact, should be allowed to be revised when new data presents itself. Yes, there is no formal definition for a planet.

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All First, the definition of a planet. As for the lack of a formal definition of what is a planet, the IAU website says: Definition of a Planet: The IAU notes the very rapid pace of discovery of bodies within the Solar system over the last decade and so our understanding of

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi, Ron, You'll notice that I put quotes around the word rules. Yes, there is no formal definition for a planet. There never has been, only a working

RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Greg Redfern
PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi Tom and all, In Reality Pluto wasn't named after the cartoon character, rather it was a name picked out by the discover (and staff at Lowell) and having something to do

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:39:49 -0500, AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom and all, In Reality Pluto wasn't named after the cartoon character, rather it was a name picked out by the discover (and staff at Lowell) and having something to do with the afterlife. I'm not sure if the Dog

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
I Like it Greg! Jerry - Original Message - From: Greg Redfern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'AL Mitterling' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
] Jerry - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), Ron

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought provoking concept Darren. Analagous to seventeenth century religiousity which refused to accept the Copernican revolutionary thought? Kinda don't rock the boat cause its too damned complicated and might

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Dawn Gerald Flaherty
PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A thought provoking concept

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Chris Peterson
7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, by the same give up on defining a planet because a planet is what the general public says it is logic, we might as well start

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Kashuba, Ontario, California
: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Not at all. There is a difference between the public misusing something that already has a formal definition (meteor), and the scientific establishment adopting a new definition for a word that has been used in a certain way

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread David Freeman mjwy
: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, by the same give up on defining a planet because a planet is what the general public says it is logic

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Chris and all, I like the word Plutonianites for these larger objects, planets. Maybe PlutoPlanets. --AL Chris Peterson Wrote: I say come up with a new word. (for planets) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi John and others, Pluto hasn't even been know for a century yet. Far as I know it has only been recently that the status has been questioned with no real definition yet. --AL Kashuba, Ontario, California wrote: Chris and others, Pluto has not been referred to as a planet for centuries

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Knudson
Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kashuba, Ontario, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi John and others

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Chris Peterson
- From: Kashuba, Ontario, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Chris and others, Pluto has

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:06:31 -0600, Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but it has been for the best part of the last century. The vast majority of people now alive don't remember a time before there was a ninth planet. The vast majority of all people now alive couldn't name all nine

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread tracy latimer
: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 21:25:57 -0500 Hi Chris and all, I like the word Plutonianites for these larger objects, planets. Maybe PlutoPlanets. --AL Chris Peterson Wrote: I say come up with a new word. (for planets

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Knudson
PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet What about 'planitesimal'? I had always thought that referred to an object in orbit around the Sun that wasn't one of the 9 commonly

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-01 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brown argues that astronomers cannot control what gets called a planet. Our culture has fully embraced the idea that Pluto is a planet and scientists have for the most part not yet fully realized that the term 'planet'