Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-22 Thread Bob Loeffler
, March 15, 2009 5:59 PM To: Darryl Pitt Cc: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull The problem is where you draw the distinction. What about a person or animal who is not killed by the shock wave but may by thrown the ground, either by compressed air or ground movement

[meteorite-list] Carancas Bull other stuff

2009-03-16 Thread Gonzalo Tancredi
Hi all We have studying the Carancas event with several colleagues from Peru and elsewhere. In particular we analyze the case of the bull that was knocked by the explosion shockwave, as well as other similar situations. You can find a presentation about our work in:

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread Darryl Pitt
Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull Hiya, My point was that an impact/blast that results in a mortality producing shock wave is universally defined as an impact/blast casualty. Your attempt to pull shock waves out of the equation in an assessment of an impact/blast is akin

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread GeoZay
Does anyone know whether shock waves crated by an object the size of Carancas could have been sufficient to have killed a nearby bull? I don't have a clue as to how big the Carancas object would have been, but factoring in the objects velocity upon impact, I'd guess there would have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull Hi Bob... Bomb blasts were introduced as a way of ramping into a discussion of shock waves. Be it a bomb or an extraterrestrial impact, we're talking about the rapid compression of environmental air pressure. Let's look at Meteor Crater as an example

[meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Sterling, Darryl, Bob, Carl, and List, See also: A. Le PICHON et al. (2008) Evidence for a meteoritic origin of the Sept 15, 2007, Carancas crater (MAPS 43-11, 2008, pp.1797-1809). There are arguments about whether it's a pit or a crater .. and, as if to avoid a decision what to call

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread Walter Branch
Message - From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull Hi Bob... Bomb blasts were introduced as a way of ramping into a discussion

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread Darryl Pitt
Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull Hi Bob... Bomb blasts were introduced as a way of ramping into a discussion of shock waves. Be it a bomb or an extraterrestrial

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-15 Thread Mr EMan
Hello George, List I believe Carl pointed out that the translated term Bull does not necessarily mean bovine but could be any male animal. I don't know if ewe included all female animals and not just a female sheep. So the bull reference could be referring to the llama. In blast/overpressure

[meteorite-list] Carancas Bull

2009-03-11 Thread Darryl Pitt
Hiya, My point was that an impact/blast that results in a mortality producing shock wave is universally defined as an impact/blast casualty. Your attempt to pull shock waves out of the equation in an assessment of an impact/blast is akin to taking water out the equation in a drowning.