Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread GeoZay
Eric...for some reason, the figure of about 9,000 mph sticks in my head as the point of retardation. I don't know where to resource that figure to see if its right or not...but I think its close. geozay George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of sound is

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread Marco Langbroek
Op 30-3-2011 01:33, geo...@aol.com schreef: I'd be very interested to know if people beyond the heavy end of these falls heard the sonic boom? Does anybody know of a fireball fall and recovery where there were NO sonic booms? GeoZay When you mean that in terms of none reported: the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread Jeff Kuyken
again Bernd! ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/sounds.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi List, It seems

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread David Norton
] On Behalf Of geo...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:05 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Eric...for some reason, the figure of about 9,000 mph sticks in my head as the point of retardation. I don't know where

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread GeoZay
Ablation ceases at 3-4 km/s (about Mach 10), and this is about where the meteoroid becomes invisible. For a typical meteorite, it will rapidly lose this remaining velocity and enter nearly vertical dark flight. Thanks Chris...When math gets beyond my ten fingers and ten toes, I get

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-30 Thread wahlperry
. Sonny -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 11:02 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi Sonny all,Everyone has raised some

[meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread wahlperry
Hi List, It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent Oklahoma event. I was wondering if the absence of a sonic boom has anything to do with it. Does a sonic boom or explosion have to be present for a

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Witt
...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 8:34 AM Hi List, It seems like there have been many fireball sightings in the past few months but no material being found on the ground, as in the recent

[meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Sonny, Steve, and List, Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by many in the area Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and Nancy Ryan - Tribune staff reporters) - March 27, 2003, 1:20 PM CST: ... Garza said he was in bed when he heard his dog barking

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Richard Kowalski
] Fireball question / sonic boom To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:03 PM Hello Sonny, Steve, and List, Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by many in the area Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and Nancy Ryan

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Meteorites USA
: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:03 PM Hello Sonny, Steve, and List, Steve: with Park Forest there were sonic booms reported by many in the area Meteor blazes path to Park Forest (by Joseph Sjostrom and Nancy Ryan

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
I'd be very interested to know if people beyond the heavy end of these falls heard the sonic boom? Does anybody know of a fireball fall and recovery where there were NO sonic booms? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread wahlperry
, 2011 11:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Curious... I know there are many variables involved, and it probably varies with the conditions under which each event occurs, but I've read that some people have heard sonic booms (as low boom/rumbles) up to 50 miles

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
Thanks for the replies. It sounds like a sonic boom my be a determining factor in recovering meteorites and which fireballs to chase. Yep...that's what I've been saying for yearsIf no booms...save yourself the wear and tear. GeoZay __

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Frank Cressy
or booms. Cheers, Frank From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 4:33:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom I'd be very interested to know

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
There are several falls where no sonic boom was noticed. Speaking of US falls, the last two that come to mind are Berthoud, CO and New Orleans, LA. Others that I can readily recall are Salem, OR and Athens, AL. Reports from the latter two specifically state there were no explosions

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Robert Woolard
From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable meteoritesĀ  recovered from falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were some forĀ  those above, but there probably weren't people

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Gary Fujihara
or ... if a meteor produces a sonic boom, but nobody is there to hear it, does it still drop meteorites? ;^) gary On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Robert Woolard wrote: From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Thanks Frank...never knew

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom From: geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Thanks Frank...never knew there were any sizable meteorites recovered from falls without any sonic booms reported. I bet there were some

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Marc Fries
Something to consider... If all events with sonic booms generate meteorites, then there are meteorites on the ground in Louisiana/Mississippi from the big fireball there a couple of months back. Here's Jake Schaefer's page on that event again...

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
* Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
The absence of one, however, probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that they were not, since a meteor can still end (without complete ablation) high enough that no sonic boom will reach the ground. Wouldn't these(meteorites) that are high enuf that no sonic boom will reach the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Meteorites USA
George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of sound is about 760 MPH. What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer incandescent? Regards, Eric On 3/29/2011 10:12 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote: The absence of one, however, probably

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom The absence of one, however, probably shouldn't be taken as an indicator that they were not, since a meteor can still end (without complete ablation) high

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread Chris Peterson
Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom George jut brought up a good point and I have

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball question / sonic boom

2011-03-29 Thread GeoZay
George jut brought up a good point and I have a question. The speed of sound is about 760 MPH. What is the speed at which a meteoroid extinguishes and is no longer incandescent? I believe its in the neighborhood of 7,000 mph. If its a small meteoroid, it will extinguish way too high