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2010-07-23 Thread Greg Catterton
I posted this yesterday, but it didnt show up... I am not disputing other crystals in angrites, my comments were to the translucent slices like mine has. While many chimed in and claimed to have seen such, still, nobody has shown pictures of an angrite with back lit translucent crystals (like

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2010-07-23 Thread GREG LINDH
Hello Greg, I've always loved science, but I do think that some in the scientific community tend to stretch things a bit thin sometimes. All kinds of theories about all kinds of things are thrown around with little to support them. This reminds me of a quote by Mark Twain. The

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2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
Shawn, Well-said - But I can't emphasize enough the fact that such large bodies existed in large numbers in the early solar system. That much is obvious from the large numbers of ungrouped (and grouped) differentiated achondrites that we have in our collections here on earth, as well as from all

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2010-07-22 Thread Jeff Grossman
Yikes! Abstracts to meetings are not peer reviewed! jeff On 7/21/2010 10:05 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi Jason and List, I do not refute Melinda Hutson's article that was never peer reviewed and contains several errors according to the classifying scientists. I asked scientists about the

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2010-07-22 Thread Rose, David MD
I agree with Jeff completely. Same thing happens in Medicine. And even when the data is peer reviewed, that doesn't mean that it is rock solid truth. It's a process of continual evaluation and refinement. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

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2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
I am not disputing other crystals in angrites, my comments were to the translucent slices like mine has. While many chimed in and claimed to have seen such, still, nobody has shown pictures of an angrite with back lit translucent crystals (like in a pallasite) that are 1cm x 1cm in size.

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2010-07-22 Thread Thunder Stone
List: I hope NWA 2999 is from Mercury - would be nice.  Do we have rocks from Mars?  Didn't scientists determine the meteorites are from Mars by measuring the isotopes and matched the atmosphere on Mars.  Do we actually need samples from Mercury to determine if these Angrites are from

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2010-07-22 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello everyone, Isn't 'science' just that, Science... Ever evolving as ground truth comes in? Without open minds and hard work by many dedicated individuals, 'science' would not get very far, especially in the world of meteortitics! Much of the initial work and/or thoughts are educated

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2010-07-22 Thread Melanie Matthews
Well said. --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! - Original Message From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net To: Rose, David MD

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2010-07-21 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to all, I am happy to announce that NWA 6291 is an awesome and very rare angrite. I have several very nice slices for sale including one of the 4 translucent slices. After extensive research, I have not been able to come across any angrite that has offered translucent crystals and slices

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2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Greg, All, I managed to turn up these pages: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_DORBIGNY.HTM http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/nwa-2934-angrite-meteorite-possible-nwa-2999-3164-1 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2001/pdf/1876.pdf So, NWA 2836, 2999, 3164 (all three

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2010-07-21 Thread Greg Catterton
I agree that the Mercury connection is up in the air at this point, but its a neat idea of the parent body. As for the Translucent crystals, I am talking about being able to show something like this: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite657gt2.jpg

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2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Greg, All, Sheesh...you might read that paragraph again. The Hupe's don't sell martian material with the statement may contain traces of martian life. At least they didn't the last time I checked And, yes, D'Orbigny contains cm-sized crystals of translucent, gemmy, pallasite-like

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2010-07-21 Thread Impactika
Jason, Will this one do?_http://www.impactika.com/DOrbVug.jpg_ (http://www.impactika.com/DOrbVug.jpg) Taken in Sept. 2001 in Denver, in Eduardo's show room. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)

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2010-07-21 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Greg, Jason and List, Well, regardless of what the parent body is, that is a spectacular meteorite. Congratulations are in order again for Greg - you hit the Moroccan Lottery with that one. :) I am very curious about the parent bodies of all meteorites, and I wish we knew exactly where all

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2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Anne, A beautiful example! I'd like to stress the fact that I'm not trying to put Greg's Angrite down in any way - it's just that there *are* other Angrites that display translucent crystals (clearly)...and they probably aren't from Mercury. I know that the Hupe's seem to refute this

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2010-07-21 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Jason and List, I do not refute Melinda Hutson's article that was never peer reviewed and contains several errors according to the classifying scientists. I asked scientists about the article and they stated, it is obvious that she didn't read the original peer reviewed abstract

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2010-07-21 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers, I would have to say NWA 2999 and the other Angrites that might have a connection to Mercury in fairness is speculative, like with the rest of the meteorites that can’t be traced back to a parent body because of the lack of physical evidence. This was also true with the Moon and