My final rant on the subject:
Happy Canyon Meteorite today:
4.4 grams= $225 @ $50 per/gm
http://www.meteoritelab.com/estore/?findid=68c=Meteorite
Price I paid in 1974 from Huss and Nininger
.60 cents per/gm. I got 24 grams at that price, $14.40 cents.
83 fold increase since 1974
Kenna
Greetings Darren and all,
The link you give is for terrestrial peridot. Steve is trying to sell
peridot from space rocks which is more unique. If you just want peridot
then there is plenty of that. If you want peridot from space rocks
there are only about 40 some falls and finds of this type
The space gems need to be marketed to high profile fashionistas like Lady
GaGa, Kendra, Paris Hilton and the Kardashians. With Kim and Khloe flashing
those babies as they hobnob with the crowned heads of Europe, the demand
will grow like wildfire. Soon every rock star and Hollywood actor will
Why don't we discuss the real issue with this thread? Is nobody else
offended by the idea of destroying meteorites for commercial gain?
I do realize that the scientific value of Brenham pallasites is
extremely low. Many hundreds of kg are held by museums, so chances are
that the destruction
Hi JeffList
I don't know
it is commercial gain which has been the engine behind so much of the last
decade's expanding interest in meteorites which has resulted in hundreds of
important new meteorites for science.
While I understand your sensitivity, I don't think a real
CorrectAnd from what I understand, finding them of any size unfractured
suitable for jewelry is even more rare.
almi...@localnet.com wrote:
Greetings Darren and all,
The link you give is for terrestrial peridot. Steve is trying to sell
peridot from space rocks which is more
Hi, too busy to secrete my usual suada ;-)
So only a quick thought.
Please keep in mind,
that the Brenham prices today are a fraction of that, what Brenham had cost
in the years after its first recovery and much cheaper than that what was
asked in Nininger times,
and finally much lower than
Please folks, isnt the REAL issue here simply the way some deal with
landowners? I really don't blame these landowners at all for feeling slighted.
I mean, we have to be reasonable, cautious, and even conservative, when it
comes to discussing what the landowners will receive if something good
Hi Folks,
Some very good points were raised here. And as silly as it sounds,
Phil is right on the money (no pun intended). Send a few of those
mounted palladots to the Kardashians and some other high-profile
socialites and you might create a market for them.
Celestial origin or not, they are
Adam,
One of the main problems is with trust.
Speaking of trust. Is there a way to certify this material from Earth peridot?
Wait until the eBay *posers* get word of this new Space Gem.
Kaching, (sp)?
Carl
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Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Just so we keep things straight the Admire meteorites are the ones
being melted down for their peridot and also the strewn field where
the landowner lives that was given big expectations about the returns
of the meteorites found on his land.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:30 AM, cdtuc...@cox.net
Are these meteorites actually being melted down for their peridot?
What happens to the rest of the meteorite? I was under the assumption
that the peridots in question were salvaged from badly-oxidized
specimens or were culled from peridots that fell out of the matrix. I
didn't realize whole
Yes the entire meteorites are melted (chemically) and all is lost
except for the olivine.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
Are these meteorites actually being melted down for their peridot?
What happens to the rest of the meteorite? I was under the
Dare I say it? I think this thread should read: Landowner's trials and
tribulations in dealing with meteorite hunters Kinda stings a bit, but
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If it's done chemically then it is called dissolving, not melting.
Melting is done with heat and it would destroy the olivines. Olivine is
used to create a slag when melting iron ore and forms a liquid layer on
top of the melted iron.
/Göran
Mike Miller wrote:
Yes the entire meteorites are
Hi Carl and List Members,
It seems inevitable that future fraud will take place if the sale of this
olivine were ever to take hold but I feel the market for such gemstones is very
thin so trust and provenance will be everything . Gemologists are not yet
trained on extraterrestrial gemstones
Hiya Jeff,
Generally speaking, I'm also offended by the destruction of
meteorites...period. But not because of the commercial gain motive, per se.
Darryl is exactly right that every faction of the meteorite community has
benefited from the recovery incentive.
Mike's point that the Admire
List:
I think this will put a “black eye” on meteorite hunters regardless of the
turnout. I remember in West I talked to some landowners who let meteorite
hunters on their property, and they told me that some of the hunters had stolen
some of their finds and skipped out on paying, so they
I think this represents more than just a black eye We may be the last
generation that can hunt freely for them without sever repercussions. Hunters
have already been jailed and it is just a matter of time before somebody is
shot
on private property figuring it is an easy way to riches.
There are also long-term value issues:
If you had $5000 to spend on a gem that would retain its value, would
you buy a 1 ct diamond or a 1 ct space-gem?
While the hard-core collector may say space-gem, everyone else in the
world would say diamond. The diamond market is well established and if
Yep - the landowners are going to cash up front if you want to hunt.
Greg S.
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:43:28 -0800
From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in
Hello Paul and Listers,
This article you had posted is a great read. I would say the market can be
tricky when it comes to selling those big pallasites found in Kansas. As for
the article, the landowners chose the deal with Steve Arnold. They had the
chance to keep some of the meteorite or
Hi Shawn and List,
Almost any meteorite can be decontaminated, stabilized, and saved -
even the worst rusters. It takes time, labor, and expertise. Even
Brenham can be rendered into a very stable pallasite that will hold up
over time just as good or better than any non-treated pallasite on the
Martin,
Yes the good old days are to me still the good old days. The most I ever
paid per gram of a meteorite was Kenna. $1 per/gm. Then Eagle 60 cents
per/gram. And a bottle of fresh Hobrooks, 130 grams picked up right after they
fell by a Holbrook resident in July of 1912. And at the
Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and
rocky moments as discussed in Land deals, meteorites and money
by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011
http://articles.kwch.com/2011-02-17/meteorite-hunting_28553456
Yours,
Paul H.
Wow, this is really bad, like a gunpowder keg going off. Money, meteorites and
press, a volatile mixture. I hope this is resolved quickly.
Happy Hunting,
Adam
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From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Paul, list,
I heard all about this and more details at the Gem show.
In Steve's defense. I think he is trying to find a market for these wonderful
gem stones from space.
The trouble is that he is not the only one who has these space gems.
The truth is that these stones were available for
You ain't lived until you've stared down the receiving end of a
shotgun held by a suspicious farmer. Once upon a time, I worked in
Ontario for the then Department of Highways. I had to visit farmers
all the time about government business. During my official duties I
was accosted by very
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote:
It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet
are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond.
http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html
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One of the main problems is with trust. This strewn field has been available
for
over 100 years and for all practical purposes now may be closed. It only takes
one or two angry landowners to shut down the entire area to meteorite hunters.
News of fraud, lawsuits and unpaid promised large sums
Hello All,
When you start pulling a ton of Brenham out of the ground don't expect to find,
or quickly make, a market for it. Once the relatively small group of meteorite
collectors (I'll bet there isn't five hundred that would but a pallasite in the
world) get their specimens you will still
It's all in how you market it.
With the big gemstones, they've been bought, sold, and used as a
commodity for literally hundreds and probably thousands of years.
Diamonds didn't get their current popularity/price until DeBeers
started their major marketing campaigns.
Just because something is
I'll bet Bob Haag has the skinny on marketing cosmic periodot. He's been there
and done that. And I will up my estimate of Brenham buyers to maybe 2000 world
wide if you include the less than 30 grammers. But four figure peridot as
jewelry500 max.
Count Deiro
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