Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread MeteorHntr
Hello List, What is so hard to understand about this? Let's not forget that the science of meteoritics is big business. Well, not big by Microsoft or American Airlines standards, but compared to collecting it sure is. I was given a number a couple years ago that $12,000,000 a year is given out

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List, It is interesting to note that the Non-Antarctic to Antarctic ratio is different when it comes to planetary material. SNCs Qty Non-AntarcticQty Antarctic 18 10 Lunar Qty Non-Antarctic Qty Antarctic 15

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Ferguson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban Hello List,What is so hard to understand about this?Let's not forget that the science of meteoritics is big business. Well

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Hupe
the best, Adam - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban Dear Adam and List, Yes, you are right that desert has been easily

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Hupe
: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban Dear List and Adam, I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult for me to compare the latest SNCs numbers but... ;-) What about somebody who have a time and knowledge (Adam?) will make a mathematic formula to compare hot/cold

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Hupe
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban In a message dated 8/8/2003 12:25:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are right; it is hard to compare

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
to do so just as long as the laws remain favorable. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
As for rare meteorites, which I will define as non-ordinary-chondrites, there are 1550 from Antarctica and 467 from commercial collections. Let's refine the numbers a bit. Pretty much the start of hot desert collecting was in 1998. Of the numbers you quote above how many are since the start

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Grossman
You are right; it is hard to compare the statistics. Many or most of the described multi-fragment Saharan meteorites are those that decrepitated in place in the much harsher weathering environment of hot deserts compared with cold ones. Meteorites that formed strewn fields get just as many

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-14 Thread mark ford
Re: collecting Ban. These scientists/time wasters that support a collecting ban would do well to sit down and think about their actions... Firstly 90% of all meteorites are found by 'collectors/hunters' (or dealers to collectors). Do these scientists really want to loose these thousands and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-11 Thread Starbits
In a message dated 8/8/2003 12:25:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are right; it is hard to compare the statistics. I had waited to reply hoping for additional statistics from Bernd (I don't envy you the updating task), but here goes. I have rearranged parts of

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban - ARMY

2003-08-11 Thread Tim Heitz
:43 PM To: Sergey Vasiliev Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban Dear Sergey and List, I feel the performance increase in rare finds from the desert is attributable to free enterprise and education. Moroccans and nomads know they will get more

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-10 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Dear List and Adam, I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult for me to compare the latest SNCs numbers but... ;-) What about somebody who have a time and knowledge (Adam?) will make a mathematic formula to compare hot/cold deserts finds? Something like that: Deserts Finds:

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
Without taking sides in this debate, I can help get the statistics straight. 73% of classified and published meteorites are Antarctic (source Metbase v6.0, total 20,366 of 27,732 meteorites ). Of the remaining meteorites, ~56% (~4100) of them are in numbered series directly attributable to

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-08 Thread almitt
Hi Eric, Dr. Grossman and all, Starbits Wrote: Another comparison would be total mass. We know that NWA 869 has been estimated at 1500-2000kg alone. What is the mass of all the Antarctic meteorites? This is and would be an important consideration. I have noticed that a lot of the Antarctic

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban

2003-08-08 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Ban Dear List and Adam, I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult for me to compare the latest SNCs numbers but... ;-) What about