Re: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members
Hi Adam and List, Contrary to your experience, I unsubscribed from the list earlier this year and it took nearly two weeks for me to re-subscribe, after three or four unreplied emails. I know of another long time list member who had the same problem with a longer time span, and this happened last month. I still don't know if he is back on the list. Here is an email which I received this morning: Walter your post tonight brings up a sore point with me.I read the meteorite list on the web daily, even hourly and have tried to subscribe and have emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] with no reply.Below is a copy of the last email I sent on August 11th. The previous one was about a month before the last one.I think this is a serious issue. You have permission to post part or all of this to the list.Mike FowlerChicagoI want to be a member of the meteorite list.Am I doing something wrong?This is my 6th attempt to subscribe to the list.Three times using the web site and this is the third time by email.My name is:Mike Fowler(address and phone number deleted) I have bought about a dozen meteorites on ebay recently under the name of Starsandrocks.I am an amateur astronomer and a member of several yahoo lists such as TMB optics TEC Telescopes under the name of mqfowler.I have bought meteorites from: Finmet, Meteorite Market, Langheinrich Meteorites, Ron Hartman, Meteorite Lab, Nickelironmonkey (Jim Coffman), Mike Farmer, Nelson Oaks, Stefan Ralew, a Park Forest specimen from Larry Atkins, and of course from Dean Bessey.I have bought and sold on astromart (telescopes) under the name of Mike Fowler.I'm an overall good guy, so I hope to qualify for membership.Thanks,Mike Fowler -Walter --www.branchmeteorites.comWalter Branch, Ph.D.Branch MeteoritesPO Box 60492Savannah, GA 31420 - Original Message - From: Walter Branch To: Meteorite Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members Hello Everyone, Does anyone know why it takes so long for someone to get approval from Art to become a member of the list. I have referred several potential collectors to the list, and they are very excited to learn of the existence of the list but sometimes, they lose interest because after weeks of waiting, they don't get approved. I just referred someone 5 minutes ago, and I had to tell them that it may take weeks before they are approved and to "hang in there." Here is an excerpt from an email I just received: Do you think you could post something to the list about it? It would be much appreciated. I'm sure not everyone is as tenacious as I am about it and probably just go away. -and- This is great Walter--I really like these weekly sales ads. since I can't seem to get on the meteorites list, this is the best thing going for me. What does one have to do to get on the list? Is there some secret handshake or something? Is there some technical issuegoing on here that I am unaware of? or what? -Walter --www.branchmeteorites.comWalter Branch, Ph.D.Branch MeteoritesPO Box 60492Savannah, GA 31420
Re: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members
Walter Branch wrote: Hi Adam and List, Contrary to your experience, I unsubscribed from the list earlier this year and it took nearly two weeks for me to re-subscribe, after three or four unreplied emails. Hi Walter and list, I just changed my email address a couple of days ago, but if you follow the link at the bottom of all the emails to sign-up, the SUBMIT button doesn't work. I also tried doing the manual thing by sending an email with SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. That didn't work after two days of waiting either. But, I did find this link that did work. (Accessed by going directly to http://www.meteoritecentral.com) http://meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Try that and I think he'll be up and running within a several hours. Best, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members
Hello Walter, Adam, and List, I have just read with interest the recent emails concerning problems with admissions to the list, and would like to ask a few questions. First, let me say that NO offense WHAT-SO-EVER is meant toward Art or anyone! I have no knowledge at all in regard to the myriad intricacies that must accompany the administration of this list, and I truly appreciate all the time and work that Art (or anyone else ?) puts into it. I just wanted to ask this of the list: If the slow admissions to the list is just a result of Art simply being swamped by too much work, is it even possible for someone computer savvy to assist him, IF he would be OK with that? Or, is there some other explanation or technical problem with getting people admitted that I would not be aware of (or even understand)? Again, I hope no one took offense at this, as that was never my intention. But just a few days ago, we on the list were writing about how important it was for us all to help recruit new members, etc. etc. Walter's few examples, such as Mike Fowler, seem like great candidates for admission to the list, and I'm sure we would all be enriched by their admission to our ranks. I just now saw the post from Dave Andrews. Perhaps he has solved the problem and this post from me will be moot, BUT just in case it's not, I am sending it now. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth if it does prove to have been unnecessary. Thanks a lot, Robert __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?
Oh, Oh... The Dog topic lives... Long live the dog. Steve Schoner/ams --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment. Why can't this be interpreted as the meteorite fracturing into many small fragments aka ashes as in a friable portion of what elsewhere sank up a meter into the ground? That is very possible. The it could be referring to the dog or the meteorite. I pointed this out some years ago. That's why it is important to find the original Arabic article. You should always be careful when things are translated from one language to another. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members
Dear List, I was admitted to the list a half hour ago. That was twelve hours after my application. John Kashuba Ontario, California
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - August 14-20, 2003
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES August 14-20, 2003 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o Dust-Raising Event in Noachis (Released 14 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/14/index.html o Southeast Olympus Mons (Released 15 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/15/index.html o Peridier Dune Field (Released 16 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/16/index.html o Top of Olympus Mons (Released 17 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/17/index.html o South Polar Artwork (Released 18 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/18/index.html o Dark Slope Streaks (Released 19 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/19/index.html o Intracrater Dune Field (Released 20 August 2003) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/08/20/index.html All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Boeing EDD Awarded Electric Propulsion Contract for Dawn Mission
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2003/q3/nr_030818s.html Boeing EDD Awarded Electric Propulsion Contract for NASA Mission Boeing News Release August 18, 2003 ST. LOUIS - Boeing [NYSE:BA] has been awarded a contract by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to provide the electric propulsion system to be used on the Dawn spacecraft. Boeing Electron Dynamic Devices, Inc. (EDD), located in Torrance, CA., will be responsible for the production of three xenon ion thrusters and two power processor units (PPUs) to be used NASA's latest Discovery program. This electric propulsion system will provide the primary propulsion for the Dawn mission as it travels to Vesta and continues on to Ceres. NASA scientists are hoping to discover how planets are formed and find additional clues as to the origins of the solar system. EDD is pleased to support NASA - JPL on this important mission, said Chris Stephens, EDD vice president and general manager. This award represents our customer's confidence in EDD to provide quality electric propulsion as was demonstrated in the highly successful NASA Deep Space One (DS1) mission. The ion thrusters and PPUs for the Dawn spacecraft will be identical to the NSTAR equipment that was qualified and flown on the highly successful NASA Deep Space One mission. The DS1 flight spare ion thruster has achieved more than 30,000 hours of operation and processed more than 235kg of xenon in a life test at JPL. This demonstrates that the NSTAR ion thrusters could meet the Dawn mission requirements of 19,000 hours and 150kg of propellant throughput per thruster. The Dawn ion thrusters and PPUs will be produced and tested at the EDD facility in Torrance with delivery by late 2004. The Dawn mission is currently scheduled for launch in May 2006. Boeing EDD is a leading provider of high reliability products to space and defense customers and the world leader in the development and production of xenon ion thrusters and associated power processor units. EDD serves as an independent merchant supplier under Boeing Integrated Defense Systems. A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $25 billion business. It provides systems solutions to its global military, government and commercial customers. It is a leading provider of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; the world's largest military aircraft manufacturer; the world's largest satellite manufacturer and a leading provider of space-based communications; the primary systems integrator for U.S. missile defense; NASA's largest contractor; and a global leader in launch services. ### Contact: Ronea Alger Hart Boeing Satellite Systems 310-364-7575 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Madonna Walsh Boeing IDS News Bureau 314-234-1362 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Say 'Nannoballs' Could Be Tiniest Life Form
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/6562301.htm Scientists say `nannoballs' could be tiniest life form BY ALEXANDRA WITZE The Dallas Morning News August 18, 2003 (KRT) - Nannobacteria could be the smallest living things on Earth, a Lilliputian oddity worthy of listing in the Guinness Book of World Records. Or they could just be figments of a powerful imagination combined with a powerful microscope. New experiments, done in Arlington, Texas, could help scientists decide between these options. Two researchers have struck the middle ground by suggesting that nannobacteria aren't living things - just the decayed leftovers of previously living things. The work has implications on Earth as well as other planets. If nannobacteria are real, they would redefine the lowest size limit that life can attain. They might even prove to be the first extraterrestrial life discovered; in 1996, NASA researchers announced that tiny wormlike shapes in a Martian meteorite were proof of fossilized Martian life, a claim now dismissed by most other scientists. It would be worth the price if someone could prove these are tiny life forms, says Jurgen Schieber, a geologist at Indiana University in Bloomington who did the experiments while at the University of Texas at Arlington. Nannobacteria appeared on the scientific radar screen in the early 1990s, when geologist Robert Folk identified structures that looked like bacteria in rocks from central Italy. The problem was, the structures were just 50 to 250 nanometers, or millionths of a millimeter, across - and the smallest acceptable size for living things was supposed to be at least 200 nanometers. Cells just shouldn't be able to operate if they were any smaller than that, scientists thought. Dr. Folk called the tiny structures nannobacteria, using a recently coined term that adopted the paleontological tradition of spelling the prefix with two N's. He then embarked on a decade of trying to photograph the structures in lots of different geological settings. We're discovering new things because this is a world nobody's bothered to look at at high magnification, says Dr. Folk, a professor emeritus at the University of Texas at Austin. But few biologists have joined his quest. A 1998 analysis by the National Academy of Sciences, prompted by the excitement over the Martian meteorite, reiterated that the smallest possible size for cellular life was 200 to 300 nanometers across. And then Dr. Schieber entered the fray, just by joking around with a colleague at the microscope one afternoon. He and Howard Arnott, a UTA biologist, were looking for pyrite, or fool's gold, synthesized by microorganisms teeming in wet sediments. They buried a piece of squid tissue in watery mud and let the microbes work. But under the microscope, at scales much smaller than the expected microorganisms, the scientists saw blobby shapes pop into view. When we cranked up the magnification we saw tiny little balls, Dr. Schieber remembers. I said, Look, Howard, these are nannobacteria. And he's a biologist, so he took that as a joke. But after staring at enough nannoballs through the microscope, the two became intrigued enough to run some experiments. In a tank they buried small pieces of bacteria-laced squid (to represent marine tissue), beef (because its muscle fibers are well-understood) and pinto beans (for vegetable matter). The scientists pulled tissue out of the muck every few days and studied it for evidence of nannobacteria. And they found, says Dr. Schieber, that as long as there was stuff to decay, there were nannoballs. In the August issue of Geology, the scientists argue that structures called nannobacteria may be just natural byproducts of tissue decay. If so, nannobacteria wouldn't represent living organisms. But they could serve as a proxy, indicating that normal-sized microbes had been at work there. There's one major hitch to the UTA work: It applies only to sedimentary rocks, those laid down by wind and water. The work can't explain nannobacteria-like features found in volcanic rocks or meteorites, for example. Dr. Schieber, who studies the interaction of bacteria and rocks, says nannobacteria-looking things appear frequently in sedimentary rocks. I just wanted to provide a more plausible explanation for why they are there, he says. Dr. Folk says the new study is a welcome addition to the scanty scientific literature on nannobacteria. It's a good explanation for some examples (of nannobacteria), but it certainly is not a worldwide explanation for all examples, he says. If they were right, this would mean that on Mars we have advanced vegetables who die. Other researchers have proposed similar theories before, notes Kenneth Nealson, a geobiologist at the University of Southern California. In 2001, a team led by Hojatollah Vali of McGill University suggested that proteins could serve as biological seeds around which minerals could precipitate, thus creating
Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?
Hi List and dog lovers, If that dog ever existed, does anyone know what kind of dog this would be. That is what breed of dog is common to Nakhla Egypt? Howard Wu Steve Schoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Oh...The "Dog" topic lives...Long live the dog.Steve Schoner/ams--- Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment."Why can't this be interpreted as the "meteorite" fracturing into many small fragments aka "ashes" as in a friable portion of what elsewhere sank up a meter into the ground?That is very possible. The "it" could be referring to the dog or the meteorite. I pointed this out some years ago. That's why it is important to find the original Arabic article. You should always be careful when things are translated from one language to another. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design softwarehttp://sitebuilder.yahoo.com__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
[meteorite-list] Ion Engine Operation of Hayabusa - July 25, 2003
http://www.isas.ac.jp/e/new/release/2003/07_02.html Ion Engine Operation of Hayabusa ISAS July 25, 2003 Launched on May 9, 2003, the asteroid explorer Hayabusa is now cruising smoothly at a velocity of about 300,000km/day. In other words, the communication delay to the explorer is increasing by two seconds a day. In early July, the distance exceeded 0.1 AU (Astronomical Unit). Many people are interested in or concerned about the ion engine's operation. It took a relatively long time to start operation, because we took extensive action to release all possible gas and to prevent large electrical discharges since the explorer uses high-voltage power. We are now confirming the performance and status of the explorer's four engines, three of which operate simultaneously. We also verified the switch selection function to distribute the three engines' high-voltage power to four engines. These processes took a great deal of time. We first activated the ion engine on May 27, and started acceleration by simultaneous operation of three engines on June 25. Since the ion engine's acceleration is too small to measure with an accelerometer, initially we thought that long-duration orbit determination would be the only way to rate acceleration performance. Fortunately, however, it was possible to measure the acceleration value with the so-called Maneuver Monitor display equipment, which indicates the actual time difference of instantaneously measured value and expected value of two-way doppler. The equipment is also used in orbital changes for the Mars explorer Nozomi. It allows the measurement and processing of very small acceleration amounts of 4 x10^(-6) G with considerably high accuracy. So far, ion engine performance has conformed well to the value measured by the ground test and acceleration has progressed smoothly. The acceleration amount expected by the earth swing-by date (planned for 2004) is a little less than 500m/sec. We expect that this will be accomplished by the end of 2003 or early 2004 . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Europe's Moon Mission To Scan Giant Crater
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4065 Europe's Moon mission to scan giant crater Stuart Clark New Scientist August 18, 2003 Europe's first mission to the Moon is set to scrutinise the largest crater in the Solar System, looking for a new type of Moon rock. It will also be on the lookout for landing sites so that a future robotic mission can bring samples home. ESA's spacecraft, SMART-1 is due to launch on 3 September 2003. It will use X-rays and infrared light to map the composition of the whole Moon, including the 2000-kilometre-wide Aitken Basin. The basin sits over the Moon's south pole and was excavated billions of years ago by the impact of a giant asteroid or comet. It is hoped the observations will give a glimpse of a never-before-seen type of Moon rock: the lunar mantle. The mantle rocks will help astronomers understand better how the Moon was formed and evolved, but sit beneath the lunar crust that was sampled by astronauts. To reach the mantle rocks you would normally have to drill through a few tens of kilometres of crustal rock, says Sarah Dunkin, at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, in Oxfordshire, UK. In the Aitken Basin, however, we believe that a giant meteorite has done the drilling for us. The impact was so large that calculations suggest the object must have punched its way clean through the crust to hurl mantle rocks up onto the surface. Hidden from view The Aitken Basin's location on the far side of the Moon means it was only recognised as an impact structure by NASA's Galileo spacecraft 1990. SMART-1 will be the first spaceprobe to conduct a rigorous scientific survey of this feature. Its human-eye-sized camera will also map the Aitken Basin's topography in detail. This will help scout out potential landing sights for a robotic sample-return mission to be led by NASA some time around 2010. SMART-1 is currently at Kourou, French Guiana, awaiting its launch on an Ariane-5 rocket. It will take 15 to 18 months to reach the Moon, via a spiral trajectory. It will be powered by ion engine - a new evolution of the technology pioneered on NASA's Deep Space 1, 1998. SMART-1, conceived as a technology demonstrator for future spacecraft, is an all-new, miniaturised and lightweight spacecraft. It only needs an engine with a thrust equivalent to blowing on your hand, to waft it to the Moon and, at two kilograms, its infrared spectrometer is 10 times lighter than any previous instrument. The mission will cost 110 million Euros, but David Southwood, director of science at ESA, says: To do SMART-1 without all the new innovation would probably have cost half as much again. He sees SMART-1's tests as essential to a number of future ESA missions, including Bepi-Colombo, which will study Mercury, and Solar Orbiter, which will dive closer to the sun than any previous spacecraft. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ESA Sees Stardust Storms Heading For Solar System
European Space Agency Science News Release SNR 13-2003 Paris, France 18 August 2003 ESA sees stardust storms heading for Solar System Until ten years ago, most astronomers did not believe stardust could enter our Solar System. Then ESA's Ulysses spaceprobe discovered minute stardust particles leaking through the Sun's magnetic shield, into the realm of Earth and the other planets. Now, the same spaceprobe has shown that a flood of dusty particles is heading our way. Since its launch in 1990, Ulysses has constantly monitored how much stardust enters the Solar System from the interstellar space around it. Using an on-board instrument called DUST, scientists have discovered that stardust can actually approach the Earth and other planets, but its flow is governed by the Sun's magnetic field, which behaves as a powerful gate-keeper bouncing most of it back. However, during solar maximum -- a phase of intense activity inside the Sun that marks the end of each 11-year solar cycle -- the magnetic field becomes disordered as its polarity reverses. As a result, the Sun's shielding power weakens and more stardust can sneak in. What is surprising in this new Ulysses discovery is that the amount of stardust has continued to increase even after the solar activity calmed down and the magnetic field resumed its ordered shape in 2001. Scientists believe that this is due to the way in which the polarity changed during solar maximum. Instead of reversing completely, flipping north to south, the Sun's magnetic poles have only rotated at halfway and are now more or less lying sideways along the Sun's equator. This weaker configuration of the magnetic shield is letting in two to three times more stardust than at the end of the 1990s. Moreover, this influx could increase by as much as ten times until the end of the current solar cycle in 2012. The stardust itself is very fine -- just one-hundredth of the width of a human hair. It is unlikely to have much effect on the planets but it is bound to collide with asteroids, chipping off larger dust particles, again increasing the amount of dust in the inner Solar System. On the one hand, this means that the solar panels of spacecraft may be struck more frequently by dust, eventually causing a gradual loss of power, and that space observatories looking in the plane of the planets may have to cope with the haze of more sunlight diffused by the dust. On the other hand, this astronomical occurrence could offer a powerful new way to look at the icy comets in the Kuiper Belt region of the outer Solar System. Stardust colliding with them will chip off fragments that can be studied collectively with ESA's forthcoming infrared space telescope, Herschel. This might provide vital insight into a poorly understood region of the Solar System, where the debris from the formation of the planets has accumulated. Back down on Earth, everyone may notice an increase in the number of sporadic meteors that fall from the sky every night. These meteors, however, will be rather faint. Astronomers still do not know whether the current stardust influx, apart from being favoured by the particular configuration of the Sun's magnetic field, is also enhanced by the thickness of the interstellar clouds into which the Solar System is moving. Currently located at the edge of what astronomers call the local interstellar cloud, our Sun is about to join our closest stellar neighbour Alpha Centauri in its cloud, which is less hot but denser. ESA's Ulysses data make it finally possible to study how stardust is distributed along the path of the Solar System through the local galactic environment. However, as it takes over 70 thousand years to traverse a typical galactic cloud, no abrupt changes are expected in the short term. Notes to editors The results of this investigation will appear in the October 2003 issue of Journal of Geophysical Research. The investigation has been conducted by a team lead by Markus Landgraf of ESA's European Space Operation Centre in Darmstadt (Germany) and including Harald Krüger, Nicolas Altobelli, and Eberhard Grün of the Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics in Heidelberg (Germany). Ulysses is the first mission to study the environment of space above and below the Sun's poles. It is a joint mission with NASA and has been in space since 1990, after a mission extension agreed in 2000. Launched from the Space Shuttle Discovery in October 1990, Ulysses has now completed two orbits, passing both the Sun's north and south pole on each occasion. Its data gave scientists their first look at the variable effect that the Sun has on the space that surrounds it. The Ulysses DUST experiment provides direct observations of dust grains weighing less than a millionth of a gram in interplanetary space as Ulysses moves along an orbit that takes it periodically away from the Sun and from the plane of the planets -- a
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Say 'Nannoballs' Could Be Tiniest Life Form
Hello, Ron and the list, in Finland in the university of Kuopio Ph.D., M.D. Olavi Kajander has made study with these beauties; "Stone Forming Unique Agents." http://www.uku.fi/laitokset/biokem/ollinano.html Some scientists belive, some dont... take care, pekka Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/6562301.htmScientists say `nannoballs' could be tiniest life formBY ALEXANDRA WITZEThe Dallas Morning NewsAugust 18, 2003(KRT) - Nannobacteria could be the smallest living things on Earth, a Lilliputianoddity worthy of listing in the Guinness Book of World Records. -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] NASA Seeks Public Suggestions For Mars Photos
Donald Savage Headquarters, Washington (Phone: 202/358-1547) August 20, 2003 Guy Webster (Phone: 818/354-6278) Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. RELEASE: 03-273 NASA SEEKS PUBLIC SUGGESTIONS FOR MARS PHOTOS Earth comes closer to Mars this month than it has in nearly 60,000 years, but one new opportunity for seeing details on the red planet comes from a vantage point much closer. The public has an unprecedented opportunity to suggest places on Mars that should be photographed from a spacecraft orbiting that planet. Camera operators for NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are ready to take suggestions online for new places for images from the Mars Orbiter Camera. The spacecraft, managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif., has been orbiting Mars since 1997, with more than 20,000 orbits so far. The Mars Orbiter Camera has already taken more than 120,000 pictures of Mars. Many of the camera's images have sharp enough resolution to show features as small as a school bus. The images have revealed relatively recent gully erosion, ancient sedimentary rocks and many other spectacular scientific surprises. We've only covered about three percent of the surface area of Mars with the high-resolution camera. We want to be sure we're not missing some place that could be important, so we're casting a wide net for new suggestions, said Dr. Ken Edgett, staff scientist at Malin Space Science Systems, the San Diego firm that supplied and operates the camera for NASA. We're looking for excellent suggestions of areas on Mars that we have not already imaged, Edgett said. We'll look at every request that comes in. NASA's Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft team will examine each request to ensure the safety of this priceless 'eye in the sky' above Mars, said Dr. Jim Garvin, NASA's Lead Scientist for Mars Exploration at NASA Headquarters, Washington. Information about how to submit requests is online at the new Mars Orbiter Camera Target Request Site, at: http://www.msss.com/plan/intro Requesters should describe the purpose for the suggested image. Suggestions for target sites already imaged by the camera will be disqualified unless there is a convincing reason for repeating the target. An online gallery of pictures taken by the camera is at: http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/ Some of the best requests may be places nowhere near any site the Mars Orbiter Camera has imaged before, Edgett said. As with pictures desired by Mars scientists working with the camera every day, new suggestions will need to wait until the Mars Global Surveyor flies directly over the selected target, which could be several months or longer. The first images from this public suggestion program will probably be released this fall. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages Mars Global Surveyor for NASA's Office of Space Science in Washington. JPL's industrial partner is Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, which developed and operates the spacecraft. Malin Space Science Systems and the California Institute of Technology built the Mars Orbiter Camera. Malin Space Science Systems operates the camera from facilities in San Diego. For information about NASA on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov Information about Mars Global Surveyor is available on the Internet at: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members
Hi Dave, Thanks. I will pass that along. -Walter -- www.branchmeteorites.com Walter Branch, Ph.D. Branch Meteorites PO Box 60492 Savannah, GA 31420 - Original Message - From: Dave Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Slow to Approve New Members Walter Branch wrote: Hi Adam and List, Contrary to your experience, I unsubscribed from the list earlier this year and it took nearly two weeks for me to re-subscribe, after three or four unreplied emails. Hi Walter and list, I just changed my email address a couple of days ago, but if you follow the link at the bottom of all the emails to sign-up, the SUBMIT button doesn't work. I also tried doing the manual thing by sending an email with SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. That didn't work after two days of waiting either. But, I did find this link that did work. (Accessed by going directly to http://www.meteoritecentral.com) http://meteoritecentral.com/mailing_list.shtml Try that and I think he'll be up and running within a several hours. Best, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Shirokovsky - WANTED
Hello Everyone, I'm looking for aslice of Shirokovsky for sale. Regards, Tim Heitz
[meteorite-list] Meteorie Contest, Free Gold Basin Postcard
Hello Everyone, First if you are part of the Meteorite Central mailing list, and my mailing list you are getting this twice. Please delete one. I haven't done a meteorite contest in a while and needa name for my current project so I thought. Why not do both together. So..welcome to Meteorite Contest #7/8? (not sure which number). I just started a new comic series and have hired a long time Cracked Magazine comic artist to draw it for me. So I am writing the comic and a better artist is drawling it...:-) The comic will be a one-panel right now and will feature a meteorite hunterto startand maybe a meteorite collector later. I need a name for the comic and that is what this contest will be, name Mark's new meteorite comic series. The prize will be two hardbound meteorite books, Thunderstones and Shooting Stars by Robert Dodd and The Search for Our Beginning by Robert Hutchison.and just for gigglesa Jilin meteorite thin section that was made a little too thin. All USmembers who enter get mailed to them one of my latest meteorite postcards, a favorite of many meteorite list members, Gold Basin. (More postcard news coming in a month or two). Please send e-mailsto me and off the list to save bandwidth, no limit to how many entries. E-mail any questions. Wishing everyone a clear view at Mars, Mark Bostick Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorie Contest, Free Gold Basin Postcard
Hi Mark, How about something with Harlow in it, Harvey H's middle name? Or Haagmunster, .His name was Diablo, Canyon Diablo...Wasn't just Gibeon's bible. My name is Odessa, Odessa Texas, a proud texan name. I can see I am having fun at your expense. My cartoon is called Boink Or Ouch, or Thunk! or ARRRF (nakhila dog), With all of the web sites, dealer handles, and other choice use of meteorite terms, it simply must be a name that is an action verb/adverb..the nouns are all belonging to some onetake Steve Arnold for instance Good luck, Dave Freeman MARK BOSTICK wrote: Hello Everyone, First if you are part of the Meteorite Central mailing list, and my mailing list you are getting this twice. Please delete one. I haven't done a meteorite contest in a while and need a name for my current project so I thought. Why not do both together. So..welcome to Meteorite Contest #7/8? (not sure which number). I just started a new comic series and have hired a long time Cracked Magazine comic artist to draw it for me. So I am writing the comic and a better artist is drawling it...:-) The comic will be a one-panel right now and will feature a meteorite hunter to start and maybe a meteorite collector later. I need a name for the comic and that is what this contest will be, name Mark's new meteorite comic series. The prize will be two hardbound meteorite books, Thunderstones and Shooting Stars by Robert Dodd and The Search for Our Beginning by Robert Hutchison.and just for gigglesa Jilin meteorite thin section that was made a little too thin. All US members who enter get mailed to them one of my latest meteorite postcards, a favorite of many meteorite list members, Gold Basin. (More postcard news coming in a month or two). Please send e-mails to me and off the list to save bandwidth, no limit to how many entries. E-mail any questions. Wishing everyone a clear view at Mars, Mark Bostick Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?
I believe that 'Ashes' in Arabic is 'Al-qali' meaning 'the thing that was roasted' it would be interesting to read the original translation; I bet it's been misinterpreted... Here are some other possible interpretations from the 'left like ashes' phrase when it gets translated from Arabic: Something was being destroyed or killed The dog was soaked in blood The reference was to broken remains or a corpse Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?
One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment. Why can't this be interpreted as the meteorite fracturing into many small fragments aka ashes as in a friable portion of what elsewhere sank up a meter into the ground? Why must this assume that the dog actually died? I've seen a .45 cal. bullet bounce off a dogs head.-- knocked him cold/wacky for a few minutes but he lived. I express similar thoughts about 3 years ago: The original story about the meteorite came from the Al Ahali newspaper. I've confirmed that this newspaper is written in Arabic. Some of the discrepancies could be explained as translation errors from Arabic to English. Now consider the words of the farmer, Mohammed Ali Effendi Hakim, who claimed the meteorite hit the dog: The fearful column which appeared in the sky at Denshal was substantial. The terrific noise it emitted was an explosion that made it erupt several fragments of volcanic materials. These curious fragments, falling to earth buried themselves into the sand to a depth of about one metre. One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment. This does sound like an eyewitness account of a meteorite fall, though the ash reference in the last sentence sounds odd. John Ball said that this statement is doubtless the product of a lively imagination. Like everyone else, when I first read this quote from Mohammed Ali Effendi Hakim, I also found the last sentence rather dubious. How can a dog go to ashes in a moment from being hit by a meteorite? After giving it some further thought, I realized the statement was not being interpreted correctly. I think Mohammed Ali Effendi Hakim was describing the fragmentation of a meteorite after it had hit a dog. In other words, the meteorite, not the dog, was left like ashes in the moment. This made much more sense and is a more likely scenario. Also, if this is the case, then the dog did not necessarily get killed from being hit by the meteorite. So, it is starting to look like the dead dog story may still be alive, or rather it never died. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Shows
All, Totally off-topic, but I cannot resist a shameless plug. I am giving a talk at Flandrau Planetarium in Tucson, AZ for the limited weeks of the Mars Opposition. It runs every Saturday night at 8:30 PM from last week until September 27th. There will be special sessions on the night of August 27th and 28th as well. Since I will be in Denver for the show, no talk will take place on Saturday the 13th of September. The title is The Myth, Madness, and Mystery of Mars. It opens with a song from the musical version of the War of the Worlds choreographed to slides and special effects in the planetarium. If I may say so myself, it is wicked cool. If you live in the Tucson area, please come check it out. - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
