[meteorite-list] WANTED: Korra Korrabes H3

2003-08-22 Thread ROCKS ON FIRE





Hello, List,

is there anyone out there who could sell me a lot of about 2kg of Korra
Korrabes H3?

Your off-list offers incl. P/H to Australia are deeply appreciated.

Thanks, and my appologies for this OT spam.
 

   

Best_regards
 
Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
   
   Norbert  Heike Kammel
 ROCKS ON FIRE
  IMCA #3420
   www.rocksonfire.com 
   

   
   
   
 
 




RE: [meteorite-list] Re: rust and crust

2003-08-22 Thread mark ford



Stephen,

I have also treated Irons with NaOH , it is important to wash them well
in good quality 'distilled' water, and alcohol (preferably anhydrous 
pure) and dry in a drying oven for a few hours, then quickly apply a
coating of VCI/metal protector [before the iron cools] (otherwise
moisture condenses back onto the surface, when it gets cold). You should
handle irons with gloves until they are protected, otherwise
fingerprints start the rust cycle off.

One of my other Hobbies is Clock repair, and we often have similar
problems with watch/clock movements, you find that once you clean a
metal surface such as a watch movement, it is far more likely to tarnish
than before! So you need to get some sort of barrier onto the surface to
prevent condensation  corrosion, most clock cleaning solutions have a
VCI added for this very purpose, you can also wipe with oil, (although
some oils contain water!!) or lacquer of course as a last resort.

I suspect that the use of a 'clock cleaner solution' (Non-Ammonia
based!!) or 'clock rinse' with VCI added, could be a good thing to use
as a cleaner to remove rust, as people have been putting a lot of
research into corrosion prevention in this area with good results, and
there are numerous concoctions out there to prevent rust.

I don't know if anyone has ever done any serious research into corrosion
prevention in meteorites, maybe we should bite the bullet and start a
large scale trial, to see just what works an what doesn't? 


Just my thoughts,
Mark Ford





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[meteorite-list] Boiling Seas Linked To Mass Extinction

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.nature.com/nsu/030818/030818-16.html

Boiling seas linked to mass extinction

Methane belches may have catastrophic consequences. 

Tom Clarke
Nature Science Update
22 August 2003

A massive methane explosion frothing out of the world's
oceans 250 million years ago caused the Earth's worst
mass extinction, claims a US geologist. 

Similar, smaller-scale events could have happened since,
which might explain the Biblical flood, for example,
suggests Gregory Ryskin of Northwestern University in
Evanston, Illinois[1]. And they could happen again: It's a
very conjectural idea but it's too important to ignore, says
Ryskin.

Up to 95% of Earth's marine species disapeared at the end
of the Permian period. Some 70% of land species, including plants,
insects and vertebrates, also perished. It's arguably the single most
important event in biology but there's no consensus as to what
happened, says palaeontologist Andrew Knoll of Harvard University
in Cambridge, Massacheusetts.

Ryskin contends that methane from bacterial decay or from frozen
methane hydrates in deep oceans began to be released. Under the
enormous pressure from water above, the gas dissolved in the water
at the bottom of the ocean and was trapped there as its concentration
grew.

Just one disturbance - a small meteorite impact or even a fast
moving mammal - could then have brought the gas-saturated water
closer to the surface. Here it would have bubbled out of solution
under the reduced pressure. Thereafter the process would have been
unstoppable: a huge overturning of the water layers would have
released a vast belch of methane.

The oceans could easily have contained enough methane to explode
with a force about 10,000 times greater than the world's entire
nuclear-weapons stockpile, Ryskin argues. There would be
mortality on a massive scale, he says.

It's a wacky idea, says geologist Paul Wignall of the University of
Leeds, UK, but not so wild that it shouldn't be taken seriously.
There is evidence that the oceans stagnated at the end of the
Permian period. And the chemical signature in fossils of the time
hints there was a massive change in the amount of atmospheric
carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide would have been produced as
methane broke down or exploded in the atmosphere.

After all, belches of trapped methane from lakes and oceans are a
rare but well-known maritime hazard, Wignall adds. 

Flood warning

The same phenomenon could explain more recent events, such as the
Biblical flood, Ryskin also argues. An eruption from Europe's
stagnant Black Sea would fit the bill. There is even some geological
evidence that such an event took place 7,000-8,000 years ago. 

Other sluggish seas might still be accumulating methane at their
depths and could represent a future hazard, Ryskin adds.
Even if there's only a small probability that I am right, we
should start looking for areas of the ocean where this might be
happening, he argues. 

References

1. Ryskin, G. Methane driven oceanic eruptions and mass
   extinctions. Geology, 31, 737 - 740, (2003). 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 Hi List and dog lovers,
  
 If that dog ever existed, does anyone know what kind of dog this would be. 
 That is what breed of dog is common to Nakhla Egypt?
  

That is an excellent question. Does anyone know?

Ron Baalke

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Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla - What was turned to ash?

2003-08-22 Thread Steve Schoner

--- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hi List and dog lovers,
   
  If that dog ever existed, does anyone know what
 kind of dog this would be. 
  That is what breed of dog is common to Nakhla
 Egypt?
   
 
 That is an excellent question. Does anyone know?
 
 Ron Baalke
 


You can always monitor slowness at this site with:  

1) eBay

2) God threads

3) The Nakhla dog.

In that order.

We are at the Nakhla Dog index, so it is a really slow
day.

(I think it was white, a mut with a crater in its
head)

Steve Schoner/ams


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[meteorite-list] Mars Makes Closest Approach In Nearly 60,000 Years

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke

http://planetary.org/html/news/articlearchive/headlines/2003/mars_closest-approach.html

Mars Makes Closest Approach In Nearly 60,000 Years 
By A.J.S. Rayl
The Planetary Society
21 August 2003

Mars is shining brightly in the night sky and moving closer to Earth with 
every passing day. 

Even the Big Blackout on the east coast was timed pretty well as far as
Mars watching goes. One of the blackout benefits was that New Yorkers
were saying that they had time to look at the night sky -- and in particular
Mars, reports Lou Friedman, executive director of The Planetary Society
(TPS) who managed to get on one of the last flights out of New York last
Thursday before the east coast went dark.

In fact, next week -- on Wednesday, Aug. 27 -- Mars' orbit will bring it
into opposition, lining it up with Earth on the same side of the Sun and
moving it in closer to Earth than it has been in 59,619 years. 

With media outlets around variously reporting that Mars will be closer than
it ever has been, or in 73,000 years, or in nearly 60,000 years, or
50,000 years, confusion about the matter of exactly when in the past
Mars was closer to Earth than it will be next week has had a lot of people
wondering -- just how long ago did Mars come this close, how close is
close, and what does it all mean?

TPS investigated the matter. Here's what we found:

The estimate of 56,619 years ago - put forth last year by scientist Aldo
Vitagliano of the University of Naples, Italy -- is now recognized by
leading astronomers as the most accurate date, to date, of just how long 
ago Mars made its last close approach. And, for the record, that last 
close approach was just a bit closer than Mars will be come next Wednesday.

The previous, closer approach was on September 12 in astronomical year - 
57,616 (57,617 BC) . . . at a distance of 55.718 million kilometers [or 
34,623 million miles], versus the 55.758 Gm [or 34,648 million miles] of 
the 2003 opposition,  Vitagliano confirmed for The Planetary Society via 
email. To arrive at that figure, one may presume to simply add 2003 - 
where we are now -- to 57,617 BC. But, Vitagliano reminds: Historical 
year zero does not exist, and [so] the time difference between 1 BC and
1 AD is one year. The correct number is 59,619. 

No matter what else you've read or heard, those, it appears, are the 
numbers you can take to the bank. I trust Vitagliano's results, offers 
Myles Standish, a renowned astronomer at JPL. Standish had considered 
running his own set of calculations to determine Mars last closest 
approach, but, after communicating with Vitagliano, changed his mind. 
Because of my confidence in him and his research, I didn't think it was 
worth going after, he says. 

Newtonian mechanics and customized software

Vitagliano employed Newtonian mechanics and his own customized computer 
software to 'do the math.' In a nutshell, the theory behind Newtonian 
mechanics allows for predicting the positions of planets and celestial 
bodies by inference from their motion. In other words, if you can 
determine the motions of the given objects in, say, the solar system, 
you can calculate where any given planet or celestial body in that solar 
system was at any point in the past or will be in the future. 

Past studies have shown that the orbit of the Red Planet has been getting 
slightly more eccentric, or elongated over the last 35,000 years because 
of the gravitational effects of the other planets. During this time of 
eccentricity, Mars' orbit has been taking it in a little closer to the 
Sun at perihelion [the point at which it closest to the Sun], hence 
closer to Earth's orbit, and a little farther from the Sun at aphelion 
[the point at which it is furthest from the Sun]. 

This eccentricity has had an impact on how close Mars' orbit comes to 
Earth's orbit. According to Vitagliano, the closest distance between 
the Earth and Mars orbits was at a minimum 82,000 years ago. The closest 
distance then increased for the next 45,000 years, but since that time 
it has been decreasing and will continue to do so for another 
25,000 years. As a result, there will be approaches of Mars in the 
future which are even closer than the one occurring on August 27.

For Vitagliano, the task at hand however was to figure out when, exactly, 
in the past Mars was closer to Earth than it will be at this year's 
opposition. Using SOLEX, his celestial mechanics software program, on a 
800 MHz computer Vitagliano spent just 2 hours and 45 minutes computing 
time With the present version of SOLEX and my 1700 MHz 
notebook, he notes, it now takes about one hour. 

But Vitagliano is making it sound way too easy. When pressed, he admits 
that the creation of the SOLEX software was the result of long and 
patient amatorial work, with the program constantly improving and 
growing since its first version. Actually, creating the software to 
determine the numerical integration of the nine planets, the Moon, and 
asteroids 

[meteorite-list] World's Largest Robotic Telescope Ready To Track Near Earth Asteroids

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.nearearthobjects.co.uk/news_display.cfm?code=news_introitemID=195
 
World's largest robotic telescope ready to track NEAs
NEO Information Centre
August 18, 2003

The telescope designed, constructed and
commissioned by Telescope Technologies Ltd., a
subsidiary company of JMU, observes
autonomously from its site on La Palma in the
Canary Islands.The Liverpool Telescope's unique
capabilities of flexible scheduling and rapid
response will put the UK at the forefront of
exciting new fields of research in time dependant
astrophysics. This enables us to study such
phenomena as supernovae and Gamma Ray
Bursts, the biggest explosions in space, said
Professor David Carter of the ARI. 

The telescope's other great strength is its ability
to make regular observations of objects that vary
over periods from seconds to years. With current
astronomical facilities this is very difficult,
whereas the new telescope will track newly
discovered objects such as comets or Near Earth
Asteroids (NEAs), allowing accurate
calculations of their paths and potential hazards. 

The telescope is supported by the Particle
Physics and Astronomy Research Council
(PPARC), making 40% of the observing time
available to astronomers throughout the UK. A
further 5% of the time has been donated by JMU
to the National Schools' Observatory (NSO)
programme. School children can now work on
their own projects alongside professional
astronomers, said Dr. Andy Newsam (NSO
astronomer). This is the first time regular access
has been granted to schools for world-class
research telescopes. 

The telescope is sited at the Observatorio del
Roque de los Muchachos which is operated on
the island of La Palma by the Instituto de
Astrofisica de Canarias.


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[meteorite-list] Re: Recent Flash Floods

2003-08-22 Thread Paul
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) 
Robert Verish

This most recent influx of moisture 
into the deserts has caused severe 
flash-flooding.  Up until now, the
dry lakes have been overly wet with 
standing water, but flash-flooding 
has the energy to bring large volumes 
of mud and rock with that water, out 
into the middle of these playas and 
bury any promising surface with a new 
layer of sediment. 

First, the flooding is not going carry
any rock of any size into the playa. 
Any rock, except for pumice, of any 
size is going to drop out along the 
edges of the playa lake. Just the finer-
grained sediments, i.e. mostly silt and
clay will get carried out into the playa.
Along the edges of any playa, there 
might be a substantial accumulation of
sediments. However, the actual thickness
of accumulation will drastically decrease
towards the interior of any lake bed to 
the point where it can be quite thin.

Finally, the deposition of sediment is
not altogether a bad thing. Any of the 
clutter and garbage that has accumulated 
on the playa lake surfaces because of 
human activity should be buried, in a 
some cases just awhile, giving the 
meteorite hunter a clean surface on 
which a person can more easily find 
any meteorite falls after the lake 
dries out.

I qualify my statements with awhile 
because, in some lake beds, the 
pedoturbation of the lake sediments 
after the lake bed dries out might 
cause larger pieces of rock, older
meteorites, and human debris to 
resurface in the next decade or so 
if they are not too deeply buried.
Also, after a lake dries out, wind
action can significantly erode and
move any silt, clay,or fine sand that
might accumulated during these floods
and also expose, in time, objects
buried outside of the lake margins. 
Again, in time, some of stuff that 
was buried by these floods within the 
lake beds away from its margins will 
start to resurface in the next few 
years as wind erodes the new lake 
sediments and deflates the lake surface.

Yours,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA

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[meteorite-list] How s(low) can it get...

2003-08-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Ron, Steve and others,

Things really are at a snails pace on the list these days...so slow that I 
thought I would pass on my meteorite revelation for the day.

Looking at my Meteorite Calendar for August, it dawned on me today that the 
Adamana oriented meteorite owned by Robert Haag should be renamed the Madonna 
meteorite. ;)   It is also called the Venus stone...h

www.meteorman.org/Adamana.htm

John

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[meteorite-list] NWA 1167 INFO and THIN SECTIONS Sale

2003-08-22 Thread dean bessey
I have had a bunch of inquiries regarding NWA1167 over
the last few days including from Dr Rubin at UCLA.
To confirm, yes, it is my meteorite and I got the name
from Jeff Grossman at the met society and NWA1167 is a
provisional name that I am responsible for getting. 
But I have no idea how Rubin got his hands on it. I
can only assume one of my buyers sent it to him
because it wasnt me.
I have sold maybe half of if. I am not sure exactly
how much that I have left and it is in a box somewhere
but I am not sure exactly where. And I have to go to
Hong Kong and South America over the next 3 weeks so
most likely I wont get a chance to search for it soon
either so right now I dont have any for sale.
I do however have 5 really cool thin sections of what
I believe will be an LL3.6. It is really cool looking
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-1167a.jpg
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-1167b.jpg
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-1167c.jpg
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-1167d.jpg
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/aa-1167e.jpg 
If anybody wants one of these 5 they are $55 each
including the shipping. Paypal very much preferred for
payment right now.
Cheers
DEAN

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[meteorite-list] ebay auctions by Comet Meteorite-Shop

2003-08-22 Thread Popocatept
Comet Meteorite-Shop has many interesting ebay auctions running.  However, 
they have a zero feedback rating.

I am reluctant to buy from a zero feedback entity.  Could any list members 
who have dealings with this company advise as to the reputation of same?

Since I'm a new list member, I'll let any responders decide whether on or off 
list is more appropriate.

Thanks,

Mike Fowler
Chicago
ebay-Starsandrocks


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[meteorite-list] Incoming!

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviation/article/0,12543,473545-1,00.html

Incoming!

The killer-asteroid movies are almost forgotten, but
the threat is real and unquantified. Will it fall to
hobbyists to save the world?

by Gregory Mone
Popular Science
September 2003

Its name is 1950DA, it's the size of a small mountain,
and it's headed for Earth. According to one grim
scenario, 1950DA will hit its target-most likely water,
since there is more water than land on our planet-and
plunge to the seabed in a fraction of a second. When the
asteroid meets the ocean floor, it will explode,
excavating a crater 11 miles wide. A column of water
and debris will shoot a few miles into the sky-to the
height of a low-flying jetliner. Then skyscraper-high
walls of water will head for shore, eventually breaking
in the shallows and flooding the coast. The rest you
know, if you saw the weepy 1998 asteroid movie Deep
Impact. 

Worse things may already have happened: One theory
credits an 11-kilometer-wide asteroid with roasting
dinosaurs alive 65 million years ago. The enormous
impact sent debris flying back into space-some of it
halfway to the Moon. When the asteroid bits reentered
the atmosphere, the heat that was generated
flash-baked plant and animal life. (Had that not
happened, mind you, we probably wouldn't be here
today.) 1950DA is minuscule by comparison, though
even a still smaller asteroid could take out an entire
city with a direct hit. And make no mistake, there are
plenty of space rocks out there; one missed Earth by
only 75,000 miles in June 2002-and wasn't spotted
until after it had whizzed by. 

Now for the good news. First, 1950DA is 877 years
away and a 300-to-1 long shot for actually striking the
planet and doing the damage in the scenario above,
which is part of a simulation recently created by
planetary scientists Steven Ward and Erik Asphaug of
the University of California, Santa Cruz. And although
there are more 1950DAs out there-maybe bigger,
maybe due to arrive much sooner-the search for
potential killer asteroids is at least under way, though
sorely underfunded. Furthermore, a small band of
scientists, many of them fueled more by passion than
by actual government grants, is working on novel
methods to deal with asteroids before they get too
close to be diverted or destroyed. (The time spans
involved give a new definition to advance thinking: As
the foldout on the previous pages shows, some
diversion operations would require centuries to work.) 

NASA is more than halfway through a search for
asteroids and comets that come within striking distance
of Earth-called near Earth objects, or NEOs-and are
wider than a kilometer. Experts calculate that the
chance of an object that size hitting Earth in the next
century is only one in several thousand, but the result
would be global havoc. 

After astronomers spot an asteroid in their telescopes,
they use radar tracking to get a more precise picture of
where it's headed, how fast it's moving, and whether
its orbit around the Sun will intersect with Earth's
orbit. Before 1950DA's predicted encounter with Earth
in 2880, the asteroid will swing around the Sun almost
400 times, while Earth will complete 876 orbits. 

Of the 600-plus large NEOs tracked thus far, only
1950DA poses any threat at all. But at this stage of the
search, there are an estimated 400 potential global
killers left to find, not to mention over a million
hard-to-spot smaller asteroids capable of regional
destruction. (A rock that exploded over Tunguska,
Siberia, in 1908 leveled a thousand square miles of
remote forest; it was a mere 60 meters wide.) Making
the tallying work more tricky are a few long-period
comets, which only swing by every few hundred years
and are much more difficult to track. 

The search is only the beginning, and as Jay Melosh, a
planetary scientist at the University of Arizona points
out, The question is, If we find one with our name on it,
can we do anything? 

NASA's search effort receives a paltry $3 million per
year, just a fraction of the $25 million that NASA
earmarked last year to fix the doors on the Kennedy
Space Center's vehicle-assembly building. I'd like to
see more money spent, says David Morrison of
NASA's Ames Research Center. But as yet, there's no
official program either to build or to test
asteroid-deflection technologies. If Earth gets whacked
by a significant asteroid within the next few centuries,
survivors might find themselves marveling that their
ancestors, with tools in hand, did little to prevent a
cataclysm. 

The asteroid interception and diversion experts are
mostly hobbyists-planetary scientists, astronomers
and engineers who think up these strategies on their
own time. But the ideas are plentiful: As our gatefold
shows, the path from detection to mitigation could
include low-thrust engines, solar sails, standoff nuclear
explosions and more. 

Melosh, for example, has been focusing on the use of
solar collectors, which could concentrate 

[meteorite-list] Thank you!

2003-08-22 Thread Dave Harris


Hello and nice to be back,

Firstly I want to thank all of you who gave me sensible possibilities for
those mysterious possible meteorites.  I have yet to go thru all of the mail
to note down what the consensus was, but one thing I did note was that no
one said they were not meteoritic - which says a lot about your collective
observational skills (how many times has Mo Yousef sent in pics only to
dismissed very rapidly!)
So, thanks for that!  I shall be passing this info onto the very kind
donator of these rocks as they are not represented in my collection!
Secondly, just done another hospital bout getting my colon de-tumourised
(sorry if too much info...) and guess what, heart problems now.
44 years old and fit to be dried, stuffed and sat in a museum somewhere as a
representative of the runt of a litter.
damn. I would swear harder but there may be young 'uns reading.
Everytime I go into hospital I seem to come out sicker than before.
So, if I have now responded to your mails in a timely fashion, well, that's
why...



lovingly yours,
dave

IMCA #0092
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/entropydave/Keeper2/images/
 

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[meteorite-list] Re: Recent Flash Floods

2003-08-22 Thread Robert Verish
First, I'd like to point out those areas in which we
agree.  Essentially, we agree on all points.

The main point that we both agree upon is that there
will be a new layer of sediment.  I wasn't specific
about the coarseness or the sorting of that sediment. 
And we both agree that it will take years for that
layer to deflate and exhume (or pedoturbate, I
really like that term:-) the original rocks (to
include the meteorites).

That is my concern or interest.  And that was the
point of my original question.  Which lakes have been
severely inundated?  Which lake beds have been
compromised?  Which dry lakes will I be wasting my
time (for the next few years) if I were searching for
meteorites? 

The minor points that we may disagree upon are of
little concern to me.  What concerns me more is
whether I can CONTINUE to bring home those meteorites.
:-)
Bob V.


[meteorite-list] Re: Recent Flash Floods 
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) 


On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) 
Robert Verish

This most recent influx of moisture 
into the deserts has caused severe 
flash-flooding.  Up until now, the
dry lakes have been overly wet with 
standing water, but flash-flooding 
has the energy to bring large volumes 
of mud and rock with that water, out 
into the middle of these playas and 
bury any promising surface with a new 
layer of sediment. 

First, the flooding is not going carry
any rock of any size into the playa. 
Any rock, except for pumice, of any 
size is going to drop out along the 
edges of the playa lake. Just the finer-
grained sediments, i.e. mostly silt and
clay will get carried out into the playa.
Along the edges of any playa, there 
might be a substantial accumulation of
sediments. However, the actual thickness
of accumulation will drastically decrease
towards the interior of any lake bed to 
the point where it can be quite thin.

Finally, the deposition of sediment is
not altogether a bad thing. Any of the 
clutter and garbage that has accumulated 
on the playa lake surfaces because of 
human activity should be buried, in a 
some cases just awhile, giving the 
meteorite hunter a clean surface on 
which a person can more easily find 
any meteorite falls after the lake 
dries out.

I qualify my statements with awhile 
because, in some lake beds, the 
pedoturbation of the lake sediments 
after the lake bed dries out might 
cause larger pieces of rock, older
meteorites, and human debris to 
resurface in the next decade or so 
if they are not too deeply buried.
Also, after a lake dries out, wind
action can significantly erode and
move any silt, clay,or fine sand that
might accumulated during these floods
and also expose, in time, objects
buried outside of the lake margins. 
Again, in time, some of stuff that 
was buried by these floods within the 
lake beds away from its margins will 
start to resurface in the next few 
years as wind erodes the new lake 
sediments and deflates the lake surface.

Yours,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - August 18-21, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
August 18-21, 2003

o Koga Crater (Released 18 August 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030818a.html

o Eroded Surfaces (Released 19 August 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030819a.html

o Valles Marineris Landforms (Released 20 August 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030820a.html

o A Suite of Features (Released 21 August 2003)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030821a.html


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auctions by Comet Meteorite-Shop

2003-08-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Mike,

Comet Meteorite Shop is a self described team of field collectors and 
sellers of found(by them) and bought meteorite from different countries of 
Africa and the Middle East. To date I'm assuming they have strictly sold 
things by email, from their website, and at shows around the world. They are 
represented at shows in the states by a fellow named Serguei(sp?)or Serg. Not 
sure of his last name.

They have field collected many of the Dhofars, including some beautiful Lunar 
and SNC material. Serg was just at the Springfield show in Mass. and will be 
in Denver from what he told me three weeks ago.

I would say they are for real and will probably be a sound Ebayer.

Their website is easily found under the name stated above.


Welcome to the meteorite list,

John  PS Yes, some of my comments are just jokes and others more serious.
 Comet Meteorite-Shop has many interesting ebay auctions running.  However, 
 they have a zero feedback rating.
 
 I am reluctant to buy from a zero feedback entity.  Could any list members 
 who have dealings with this company advise as to the reputation of same?
 
 Since I'm a new list member, I'll let any responders decide whether on or off 
 list is more appropriate.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike Fowler
 Chicago
 ebay-Starsandrocks
 
 
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[meteorite-list] What to watch while waiting for the mars opposition.

2003-08-22 Thread Howard Wu

Hi list,

After seeing Ron Baalke's great list posting articles about the mars opposition, I thought I'd share this nicenarrative from NPR about the recent mars occultation:

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1401486

Howard Wu

PS Telescope buffs: Don't miss the must see photos
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Re: [meteorite-list] ebay auctions by Comet Meteorite-Shop

2003-08-22 Thread Charlie Devine
Mike,

I'll go a step further then John.  You can absolutely trust Serge and
company.  They are also good friends with Al Lang and he speaks highly
of them.  Since Al is one of the true good guys in this hobby, whom
I've known for many years, that's good enough for me.  I've also dealt
with Serge at the Springfield show and, if Im any judge of character,
he's a good man.  He's running ebay auctions while he's in the US
between shows.
Best wishes,
Charlie


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[meteorite-list] Park Forest Impact Collection Up for auction

2003-08-22 Thread Maccers531
Hello List,

I just listed a collection of Park forest fragments from 4 different impacts.
This comes in a riker display box that I had built and displayed in my home.
This is a good opportunity for all Park Forest enthusiasts to get specimens 
from 4 well known impacts at one time.
The ebay item # is 2188925914 or you can search under seller name - 
maccers531

Thanks
Bob Evans

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