Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite Injures Eight In India
Oh ohho... The dog is dead, Long live the dog! The story rises its head again... Steve Schoner/ams --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two bits of debris fell in front of a thatched house in Sudusudia village in Mayurbhanj district and another on the house of a villager, burning it to ashes. This last sentence has a oddly familiar ring to it: Nakhla, 1911: These curious fragments, falling to earth buried themselves into the sand to a depth of about one metre. One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Tiny Temeperature Humidity Meters
Jose, Still looking for the tiny humidity meters, I am trying a different tack, I will contact the Science Museum direct to see if they can point me in the right direction. Mark ( in sunny West Sussex, UK) -Original Message- From: Jose Campos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2003 10:25 To: mark ford Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tiny Temeperature Humidity Meters Hi Mark, I wonder if you did manage to get more info on those tiny Temp/RH meters? If you did send any info to the List on this item, I am sorry to have missed it. Are you based in London? Best wishes, José Campos Cacem, (near Lisbon, Portugal) - Original Message - From: mark ford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tiny Temeperature Humidity Meters Hi, Whilst visiting the British Science museum a few weeks ago, I noticed they used a particularly nice thermometer/hydrometer dial indicator inside some of the display cases, it measured just 2 square and showed temperature on the left and humidity on the left all in one neat little unit (they were not electronic but analogue). Does anyone know where one can purchase such a tiny little Temp/RH meter? They are of particular interest because they were so small. Normally they seem to be several inches tall and look just awful in a display case! Regards, Mark F.
Re: [meteorite-list] Rosamond Dry Lake(s)?
on 9/28/03 7:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Steve and All, Steve, I noticed in your ebay description of Rosamond Dry Lake: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2193811760 that it was found recently by BOB verish. There must be more than one Rosamond Dry Lake because I have a fragment with a polished face complete with an American Meteorite Museum number (H487.1), and Meteorites A-Z lists it as a 1940 find. Either Bob is much older than he looks, or there is more than one meteorite in discussion here Cheers, Martin Well, Martin, Bob IS pretty old. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Honduras Hunts For Moon Rock Thieves
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/09/28/moon.rock.ap/index.html Honduras hunts for moon rock thieves Associated Press September 28, 2003 TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) -- Authorities announced this week that they are hunting for thieves who stole an Apollo moon rock from the Honduran presidential residence at least nine years ago. U.S. President Richard M. Nixon gave the rock to his Honduran counterpart, general Oswaldo Lopez Arellano, in 1973. It was placed inside a transparent globe on a wooden plaque bearing the Honduran flag and was displayed in the presidential residence. The rock disappeared sometime between 1990 and 1994. It was recovered in the United States in 1998 when federal agents staged an elaborate sting designed to trap dealers in black-market lunar rocks. A federal court later held that the moon rock and plaque rightfully belonged to Honduras. On Monday, NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe presented the recovered lunar rock to Honduran Ambassador Mario Canahuati. Canahuati planned to return it next week to Honduras, where it will be put on display in a secure place in the capital, officials said. They would not say where the rock will be kept. On Thursday, Attorney General Roy Edmundo Medina said that Honduran authorities are in touch with U.S. officials to prosecute those who stole and then sold the object. We are conducting an intense investigation, he said. Medina did not say why authorities had waited until now to get involved in the case. The rock was brought from the moon in 1972 by the crew of Apollo 17, the last of the Apollo moon-landing missions. It was one of many moon samples given to nations of the world by the United States. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Busy Weekend - AD
Hello everybody, Since the List has been very quiet, I don't think I will be wasting much bandwidth by telling you that I have had a very busy weekend. In fact, I have spent the whole weekend crunching numbers, and the end result is New Prices for practically all the meteorites on my Meteorite Page. Some are as much as 30% lower. I did not take the time to re-write the individual pages, so the numbers in Red on the list are the new prices. I also met with the owner of the private Collection I have been selling. We reviewed that list, removed what had been sold or traded away, and cut the prices of most of the remaining pieces (even a great slice of Divnoe). Go to the News page and click on "Collection". Have a look. And let me know if you have any questions. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Ca...
Hi Fred and list, I haven't been able to get my hands on the LIFE magazine with that article in it yet. I've seen and sifted through quite a few from the right time period though. If you were at the Nininger/Huss estate sale you must have came home with a bit more than one copy of LIFE. That was a sale I sure would have enjoyed attending! Actually, the WARD'S Natural Science Bulletin, Nov 1950mentioned in my previous email, also happens to contain an article titled 'A New, Interesting Feature in Henbury Irons' by H.H. Nininger. His article along with V. Ben Meen'stitled 'The Chubb Crater Expedition' has made that issue which featured on it's cover a close-up of the moon, clearly showing many craters on it's suface, well worth keeping. I will remember to take a closer look at any early 50's"Popular Astronomy" magazines I happen torun-into from now on. Thanks for theinfo... R.Szep - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Ca... Hello Szep, I happen to have that Life magazine with the Chugg crater article. I bought it at the Margaret Nininger/Huss estate sale this year. The mag belonged to either H.H.Nininger or Glenn Huss, most likely to Nininger. It has "Save" written on the front cover. Do you also have the Life magazine on Chubb crater? The "Popular Astronomy" magazines of 1950's and 1951's have a lot of articles on meteorites, many written by Nininger.High Regards, Fred Hall
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: rust, cleaning, and silicone
Steve, Just a thought really, six months is a long time!, I was wondering if there would (in theory), be a way of speeding up the process? What about warming up the solution or putting the whole thing into a pressure vessel and pumping it up? could any of these idea's help the process to work quicker? Mark Ford -Original Message- From: Steve Schoner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2003 16:52 To: Stephen McMann; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: rust, cleaning, and silicone --- Stephen McMann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Dear List, A quick question regarding rust. I have been mulling over a simple strategy for the long term care of my SAs (and other meteorites). Right now it seems that a good strategy is to give the SAs an alcohol and NaOH treatment to dispose of the Cl- from fingerprints etc., and otherwise keep them with VCIs and dessicant. A possible complication is that several of my SAs were once wiped with a silicone gun cloth (by me). However, for the alcohol and NaOH treatment to be most effective I assume that the silicone coating should go. What is a good method for removing such a coating? Will the alcohol and NaOH remove it? If anyone has some thoughts about this, I would be interested in them. Hopefully I am asking for information that is not just waiting in the archives. Sincerely, Stephen McMann -- NaOH with alcohol should remove it. Mix alcohol 70% with 40% or more of distilled water to avoid a layer of brine. If such a lay forms keep adding just enough water to eliminate that layer then the solution will be ready for soaking specimens. Currently, I am soaking several meteorites. A big 158 lb Campo for Darryl Pitt, a small slice of Brenham, an end piece of Doronio, and a slice of Brahin for Matteo. All of these had advanced rusting problems. The large Campo has been soaking for 6 months in 25 quarts of solution, it should soon be ready for removal and drying in another month or so. If the flaking has stopped the specimen will be cured. The smaller pieces were treated with a coating, and the rust was quite bad. In fact two of the samples had fallen appart, and part of my process is to put them back together. Once the rusting is cured, after soaking these pieces for a month, reconstruction can be done with some patience. (Currently, at this point in my life I have lots of time). I will post the results. But again, yes, the NaOH will get through any coating that is on the specimen. In fact it will even soften a thick epoxy coating softening it like rubber which peels off. I have treated SA's before, and the fusion crust is not harmed other than the specific areas that are rusting with chlorides. These spots turn into dark brown oxides. But the oxide is very thin and superficial and with a tooth brush comes off to reveal the original surface underneath. Steve Schoner http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available?
Yes, but brahin is a rusty bastard pallasite. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Would any one happen to have a small slice of a Pallasite for sale or maybe trade? I do not have one in my collection and figure it is time. I am looking for a small slice that has plenty of both materials for my viewing pleasure. : ) What about these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193646780 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484669 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484729 The 2193646780 Brahin would be my favorite though the 2193484729 Brahin is very nice too. The former looks more stable visually. Several months ago I got a nice little QUIJINGUE (3.5 grams) from AL Mitterling via Ebay and it is still very stable. Keep your hands off ADMIRE - it is a rust bucket lest you take care of it regularly. Esquel and Imilac slices are quite stable, my Brenham has been stable for more than 15 years now - others have had less luck because with Brenham it depends on whether it is an internal or an external piece (same thing with the Cape York irons). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite Injures Eight In India
Yay, the Nakhla dog thread is back :) -Original Message- From: Ron Baalke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2003 02:57 To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite Injures Eight In India Two bits of debris fell in front of a thatched house in Sudusudia village in Mayurbhanj district and another on the house of a villager, burning it to ashes. This last sentence has a oddly familiar ring to it: Nakhla, 1911: These curious fragments, falling to earth buried themselves into the sand to a depth of about one metre. One of them fell on a dog at Denshal, leaving it like ashes in the moment. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BIG meteorite on Ebay NR !
Dear list I have listed some individuals ending in 2 days, including a 24 lbs big individual with reglmaglypts, cust and classification ( L3.8) publication pending. As always No reserve and $1 starting price. you can see it at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193691314 Please look at my other listing at http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=kayunwar; include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 there are still good bargain prices! average still about $5 cts/g, not bad for classifed L3.8. Good looking and good bidding. Best regards Michel. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE:Hudson Bay Arc
Charly V: In my article on the Clearwater West crater I do refer to the Hudson's Bay arc. http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/clearwater_west/index.html The input I received from geologists during my research is that the structure is the result of a mantle-plume uplift. The analogy would be, if you press a table tennis ball enough to cause a dent, it is almost perfectly circular. The same effect happened at Hudson's Bay when the mantle plume collapsed. Or so the latest theory goes. Below is the quote from my article and the paper it is based on. . To the west of the Clearwater Craters is the east coast of Hudson Bay. This circular coast is the result of a mantle-plume uplift, and IS NOT the result of an impact event. The arc of the east coast of Hudson Bay is illustrated in the upper left of this shuttle picture. Richmond Gulf is immediately to the right of the semi-circular shaped coast and Clearwater West meteorite crater is the circular shape in the center of the picture. (courtesy NASA) 1.. The sedimentary record of mantle-plume uplift, Robert H. Rainbird, Richard E. Ernst; Geological Society of America Special Paper 352, 2001. 2.. Negative results were reached by R. S. Dietz and J. P. Barringer in 1973 in a search for evidence of impact in the region of the Hudson Bay arc. They found no shatter cones, no suevite or unusual melt rocks, no radial faults or fractures, and no metamorphic effects. They pointed out that these negative results did not disprove an impact origin for the arc, but they felt that such an origin appeared unlikely. . Chuck Ottawa - Original Message - From: Charles R. Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Charles O'Dale' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Canada Waiting for the day that some news comes of the ongoing investigations in Hudson Bay, that huge half circle that comprises part of the bay is striking in its uniformity. If it turns out to be an astroblehme , it would certainly be the largest ever found. If not, it is the closest nature has ever come to eroding out an almost perfect half circle in a coastline. The last I heard about this suspected impact site, was a 3 year old article published by the Canadian Geologic Survey, saying that it was very difficult drilling core material up there, and it may take a long time before any kind of analysis is available. I also got the impression that they were having a hard time funding the work to be done. I also heard that there was a larger unconformity in the land mass around the coast (rim?) but there was no definitive evidence that it was caused by an impatct as yet. Anyone know of the principles involved in this search, or any new news? CharlyV IMCA_4351 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles O'Dale Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Canada Please see my article on the Chubb Crater aka New Quebec Crater aka Pingualuit Crater at: http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/pingualuit/index.html Thanks Chuck __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: rust, cleaning, and silicone
Mark, Actually you would want to do the reverse. Pump the air OUT of the vessel. This would cause the solution to permeate the meteorite immediately. Best, ken newton mark ford wrote: Steve, Just a thought really, six months is a long time!, I was wondering if there would (in theory), be a way of speeding up the process? What about warming up the solution or putting the whole thing into a pressure vessel and pumping it up? could any of these idea's help the process to work quicker? Mark Ford -Original Message- From: Steve Schoner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2003 16:52 To: Stephen McMann; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: rust, cleaning, and silicone --- Stephen McMann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Dear List, A quick question regarding rust. I have been mulling over a simple strategy for the long term care of my SAs (and other meteorites). Right now it seems that a good strategy is to give the SAs an alcohol and NaOH treatment to dispose of the Cl- from fingerprints etc., and otherwise keep them with VCIs and dessicant. A possible complication is that several of my SAs were once wiped with a silicone gun cloth (by me). However, for the alcohol and NaOH treatment to be most effective I assume that the silicone coating should go. What is a good method for removing such a coating? Will the alcohol and NaOH remove it? If anyone has some thoughts about this, I would be interested in them. Hopefully I am asking for information that is not just waiting in the archives. Sincerely, Stephen McMann -- NaOH with alcohol should remove it. Mix alcohol 70% with 40% or more of distilled water to avoid a layer of brine. If such a lay forms keep adding just enough water to eliminate that layer then the solution will be ready for soaking specimens. Currently, I am soaking several meteorites. A big 158 lb Campo for Darryl Pitt, a small slice of Brenham, an end piece of Doronio, and a slice of Brahin for Matteo. All of these had advanced rusting problems. The large Campo has been soaking for 6 months in 25 quarts of solution, it should soon be ready for removal and drying in another month or so. If the flaking has stopped the specimen will be cured. The smaller pieces were treated with a coating, and the rust was quite bad. In fact two of the samples had fallen appart, and part of my process is to put them back together. Once the rusting is cured, after soaking these pieces for a month, reconstruction can be done with some patience. (Currently, at this point in my life I have lots of time). I will post the results. But again, yes, the NaOH will get through any coating that is on the specimen. In fact it will even soften a thick epoxy coating softening it like rubber which peels off. I have treated SA's before, and the fusion crust is not harmed other than the specific areas that are rusting with chlorides. These spots turn into dark brown oxides. But the oxide is very thin and superficial and with a tooth brush comes off to reveal the original surface underneath. Steve Schoner http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] rosamond dry lake (new stone)
Hi Steve, Thanks for the update. After I got my piece with the AML number, I looked around for more info. I did notice, however, that you list the original find as 850g. Meteorites A-Z lists it as 400g. I guess I will have to get around to taking some pics of my piece for you (and anyone else) to see. Cheers, Martin - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:34 am Subject: [meteorite-list] rosamond dry lake (new stone) Hi there list.Concerning the NEW rosamond dry lake piece?The new stone, a 875 gram whole individual was found in jan.,2003 by BOB VERISH.This is the new main mass.The new stone is an L6,shock stage 3,and a weathering 2.Theoriginal stone that was found in 1940 was 850 grams.Supposely that piece went into clarmont college and was lost.I have a 11.2 gram slice from this new piece found by bob.I would like to see a pic of any old specimens of the original if anyone has any.You can view the new stone if you go to ROSAMOND DRY LAKE METEORITE.That page will give you the full details about this new and very beautiful stone.I am proud to have a piece. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] original rosamond
I was told that the original rosamond piece was 400 grams according to Ann Black's meteorites a to z.According to bob verish's records, it was 850 grams.I also checked the NATURAL HISTORY'S METEORITE data base, it says that a 850 gram stone was found.It was found on nov. 24, 1940It is an L with no other info on it.Well I will let the meteorite guru's decide which is right.All I know is I have a piece of the new ROSAMOND DRY LAKE.You can view it on my website. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new additions to ebay
Hi again list.I just added 7 more auctions today giving me 34.So bid high and often.Some real rare and nice stuff.This is on ebay of course. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay ad - delete if necessary
Hullo, About 24 hours to go on a nice couple of membrane-boxed chunks of Orgueil and still less than $4! Suck it and see... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193832516 thanks dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] III F Iron Sale
Good morning List I have new cuts of Cerro del Inca III F, www.meteorites.cl Best Regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites http://www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall in India- anyone interested in recovering a few
Actually it should be quite easy for me to be able to assist people on the list get a few pcs from this fall. In case anyone is interested in recovering a few pcs of this fall pls email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED],or call me. I have afriend standing by in India and can go to the area at short notice, and can also assist anyone travelling to India for this. I would be open to the idea of a joint recovery team,or procuring some pcs for others on the list. Is it a confirmed fall??? Would appreciate it if we can continue to get news on this fall Thanks Atul kumar USA 001-219-308-8282
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall in India- anyone interested in recovering a few
Is it a confirmed fall??? Not yet. Would appreciate it if we can continue to get news on this fall I've sent out about 8 emails on this since yesterday. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] original rosamond
Hi Steve and List Thought I would clear up a little confusion over where I found the TKW for Rosamond Dry Lake. I originally used the Blue Book-4th edition Catalogue of Meteorites as the source of all the information I had for the listed meteorites in the front of our book Meteorites from A to Z. It was the most current at the time. Unfortunately it did not list a weight. I was able to find a weight in the Catalog of Meteorites in the Collection ASU of 400 grams and did include it as well as a reference. Today I did look up one of the references listed by Grady Catalogue of Meteorites 5th ed. The reference is from Contributions of the Meteoritical Society Vol. 4, No 1, 1947 Leonard "A Catalog of the Meteorite Falls of the Eleven Western States" p. 60. The weight listed in there is 850 grams. The reference also lists that the mass is in the Pomona Collection. You also might want to check out Bob V's page about the recently recovered Rosamond Dry Lake stone that weighs 875 grams. So the new TKW is 1725 grams. Bolide*chaser | Rosamond Dry Lake Trip - 2003 January 19 BTW I have been working on updating the book. There will be several changes and corrections as well as including all the newly recognized meteorites since the last edition. If you have any corrections, additions, changes or other items you would like to see addressed please send the non Sahara stuff to me or the Sahara to my brother Bill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't promise we will include it in the book but we will certainly try to add all verifiable information that is sent in. So please include some references where possible. Mike Mike Jensen Bill Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 Web Site: Jensen Meteorites
[meteorite-list] Meteor Dazzles Indians
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3149404.stm Meteor dazzles Indians BBC News September 29, 2003 Officials investigating a meteorite that crashed in eastern India say it was part of the most spectacular meteor shower in the country's recent history. Flaming debris from the space rock lit up the sky in Orissa state on Saturday night, and sent villagers running after its burning fragments set fire to their houses. I have never seen a meteor covering such a large area with a huge fireball and roaring sound, said Basant Kumar Mohanty, senior director of the Geological Survey of India. According to state authorities, two large fragments of the meteorite, weighing roughly five kilograms each, have been recovered. Shock Meanwhile, locals in Orissa have been describing what they saw. I first mistook it for... a crashing aircraft, when I saw the huge fireball with so much bright light, said Bandita Das, a housewife. For about 10 seconds, the evening on Saturday got lighted up. I panicked and took my kids inside the house. Bishwa Bhushan Harichandan, a minister in Orissa's state government, told the BBC the fireball was seen by people in seven to eight districts, covering about 14,000 to 15,000 square kilometres. He said only three people had been injured as a result of the meteorite falling to earth. Earlier reports said at least 20 people had been hurt. An old man receiving treatment in hospital is also reported to have died of shock on seeing the meteor. The people of Orissa are familiar with cyclones and floods, and according to correspondents, they feel Saturday's meteor shower has added a new threat to their lives. Scientists say, however, the risk of being killed by a falling meteorite is not worth worrying about. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] India Burning
It is telling that Mr. Baalkeis reminded of thethoroughly discredited N-dog story* by today's dubious claim that a meteorite has fallen and burneda hut in India. The first reports indicate that no meteorites have beenfound in the hut. Perhaps this will become another example ofMr. Baalke's oft-stated "logic" (see many past messages in M-List archives),"just because no rocks were found, doesn't mean they don't exist". And in similar fashion, we are "thankful" that the hut burned, otherwise, the meteorite would not have been brought to our attention. So we have "no rocks" that "burned a hut" we all know "can't be burned by rocks". I have more to add in a few minutes.. Kevin Kichinka Fort Myers, Florida * see "Meteorite!", August, 1998, pp.16-17, or the same article posted with permission on Dave Weir's excellent website: www.meteoritestudies.comunder "Nakhla".
[meteorite-list] Upgraded web site - http://www.meteorman.org/
Hello List, I have upgraded my web site with a new look, please let me know if you find any links that are not working. I'm hoping it doesn't take too long too load. Lots of new things to look at Enjoy, Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorman - http://www.meteorman.org/
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available?
Matteo, NO ITS NOT all rusty Not all Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available? Yes, but brahin is a rusty bastard pallasite. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Would any one happen to have a small slice of a Pallasite for sale or maybe trade? I do not have one in my collection and figure it is time. I am looking for a small slice that has plenty of both materials for my viewing pleasure. : ) What about these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193646780 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484669 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484729 The 2193646780 Brahin would be my favorite though the 2193484729 Brahin is very nice too. The former looks more stable visually. Several months ago I got a nice little QUIJINGUE (3.5 grams) from AL Mitterling via Ebay and it is still very stable. Keep your hands off ADMIRE - it is a rust bucket lest you take care of it regularly. Esquel and Imilac slices are quite stable, my Brenham has been stable for more than 15 years now - others have had less luck because with Brenham it depends on whether it is an internal or an external piece (same thing with the Cape York irons). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Geological team finds parts of meteorite-INDIA
http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEQ20030929145648Page=QTitle=ORISSArLink=0 Geological team finds parts of meteorite BHUBANESWAR: A two-member team from the Geological Survey of India (GSI) has located what could be called `parts' of the meteor in Kaptipada block of Mayurbhanj.The remnants, according to Director, GSI B.K. Mohanty, resemble slags and are dark in colour. However, these fragments are small in size and also light in weight.He said these parts of the meteor were retrieved from around the gutted hut in Kaptipada. These fragments were probably responsible for the fire in the thatched house, he said.However, there could still be a bigger remnant of the meteor from which the smaller ones emanated, Mohanty said adding, the team was looking for it. The main portion could be lying buried somewhere. Since a meteor travels at a tremendous speed after entering the Earth's atmosphere, any bigger remnant would pierce into the latter's surface.However, the team has now been instructed to visit Balasore and Bhadrak to find if any remnant has landed there. The team would return to Bhubaneswar on Tuesday with the fragments.On Monday, a second GSI team was sent to Mahakalpara block under Kendrapara district where a 6 kg stone-like object was found by villagers in Suniti. Fwd By Atul Kumar- Calumet Astronomical Society***
[meteorite-list] Nahkla dog story again reported as fact
Hi All, The dead dog story continues to recirculate: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3146692.stm Meteorite wrecks houses in India At least 20 people are reported to have been injured after a meteorite crashed to Earth in eastern India. Reports say hundreds of people in the state of Orissa panicked when the fireball streamed across the sky. Burning fragments were said to have fallen over a wide area, destroying several houses. An official in Orissa said the authorities were assessing the damage and trying to recover what was left of the meteor. Reports from Kendrapara district in Orissa, where the meteor came to Earth, said windows rattled as it passed overhead. It was all there for just a few seconds but it was like daylight everywhere, one resident said. Rarity -- Experts estimate about 100 tons of extraterrestrial dust grains fall to earth each day. Occasionally, a dark pebble or fist-size object will rain down, with boulder-sized objects or bigger being a historical rarity. The only recorded fatality from a meteor was an Egyptian dog that had the bad luck to be in the wrong place at the wrong time in 1911. Seven decades later, scientists recognised the dog had been struck by a meteorite from Mars. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] original rosamond
Hello Steve and List, Knowing how much time and effort was put into the book, Meteorites fro A to Z, I feel it is only appropriate to give credit where credit is due. While Anne Black was indeed a collaborator and contributor the book, Bill and Mike Jensen were the principle authors. A recent phone conversation with Mike confirmed that an updated version of Meteorites from A to Z should be completed in time for the Tucson 2004 Show. Any additions or corrections to the book should be forwarded to the Jensen Bros. All non-Sahara information should be sent to Mike at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any Sahara related information should go to Bill at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When I need quick, basic information about a meteorite, I usually find myself reaching for this book. The new edition will be a great addition to all of our libraries. Best, John Gwilliam At 06:20 AM 9/29/03 -0700, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: I was told that the original rosamond piece was 400 grams according to Ann Black's meteorites a to z.According to bob verish's records, it was 850 grams.I also checked the NATURAL HISTORY'S METEORITE data base, it says that a 850 gram stone was found.It was found on nov. 24, 1940It is an L with no other info on it.Well I will let the meteorite guru's decide which is right.All I know is I have a piece of the new ROSAMOND DRY LAKE.You can view it on my website. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re:Great Meteorite Collections
Dear Fred, and List, Is there anything that we as individuals or as a group can do ? Is this due to some kind of budget cut? What Congressmen do we send our objections and voice our dissaproval to? If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. Maybe instead of shrugging it off, we should let the powers that be, know that WE do not approve of the minimizing of the importance of the study and collection of Meteorites, firstly in Denver, then anywhere else it rears it's head. It would seem that besides discouraging the meteorite trade/collecting with new legal possible laws, even the already established meteorites and public access to them may be threatened, if I am understanding you right? Domino affect. Think about it ! or trickle-down if you prefer. I don't want to start a ruckus on-list ,but I realize that some people like to gripe and do nothing, and then there are those who will take the time to address their disapproval to the proper State and Government officials. If you could advise me Fred, on who to address... off-lne, and to anyone else interested in helping, count me in. Probably a misquote, my apologies, but the message is clear. All that remains for evil to prevail, is that good men do nothing. Dramatic, yes., relevant..yes. Best Regards, Marcie ---BeginMessage--- Hello Bob, The Denver Museum of Nature and Science (I liked the former name much better, the Denver Museum of Natural History) has a wonderful collection of meteorites, many collected by H. H. Nininger when he had a close relationship with the Denver Museum. That said, forget about the fine collection of meteorites. Drawers full reside upstairs where only staff and the volunteers of the Denver Meteorite Posse (a group of volunteers started by Jack Murphy to hunt down meteorites in Colorado) have access, or had access, as the curator of minerals (which includes meteorites) has been laid off from his job of over 30 years. Jack Murphy, Curator of Minerals, has given a good part of his life to the Denver Museum, only to be laid off along with 10 or 11 other staff members. Other museum staff have resigned in outrage over the layoffs. Volunteers are TICKED OFF! Once again, meteorites get shoved way down the list of museum items to show the public, far behind fossils, stuffed animals and minerals. However, there is one large iron meteorite that children can touch in the new space display. One. No mineral curator, no meteorite display to speak of. This stinks. Regards, Fred Hall / Meteorhall ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Geological team finds parts of meteorite-INDIA
"The remnants, according to Director, GSI B.K. Mohanty, resemble slags and are dark in colour. However, these fragments are small in size and also light in weight." Well it does not sound like a meteorite to me! Thanks, TomPeregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Atul Kumar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Geological team finds parts of meteorite-INDIA http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEQ20030929145648Page=QTitle=ORISSArLink=0 Geological team finds parts of meteorite BHUBANESWAR: A two-member team from the Geological Survey of India (GSI) has located what could be called `parts' of the meteor in Kaptipada block of Mayurbhanj.The remnants, according to Director, GSI B.K. Mohanty, resemble slags and are dark in colour. However, these fragments are small in size and also light in weight.He said these parts of the meteor were retrieved from around the gutted hut in Kaptipada. These fragments were probably responsible for the fire in the thatched house, he said.However, there could still be a bigger remnant of the meteor from which the smaller ones emanated, Mohanty said adding, the team was looking for it. The main portion could be lying buried somewhere. Since a meteor travels at a tremendous speed after entering the Earth's atmosphere, any bigger remnant would pierce into the latter's surface.However, the team has now been instructed to visit Balasore and Bhadrak to find if any remnant has landed there. The team would return to Bhubaneswar on Tuesday with the fragments.On Monday, a second GSI team was sent to Mahakalpara block under Kendrapara district where a 6 kg stone-like object was found by villagers in Suniti. Fwd By Atul Kumar- Calumet Astronomical Society***
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available?
I agree with Tim (and several other list members) on this one. There are some Brahin specimens available that are very stable. Best, John Gwilliam At 05:48 PM 9/29/03 -0500, Tim Heitz wrote: Matteo, NO ITS NOT all rusty Not all Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available? Yes, but brahin is a rusty bastard pallasite. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Would any one happen to have a small slice of a Pallasite for sale or maybe trade? I do not have one in my collection and figure it is time. I am looking for a small slice that has plenty of both materials for my viewing pleasure. : ) What about these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193646780 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484669 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484729 The 2193646780 Brahin would be my favorite though the 2193484729 Brahin is very nice too. The former looks more stable visually. Several months ago I got a nice little QUIJINGUE (3.5 grams) from AL Mitterling via Ebay and it is still very stable. Keep your hands off ADMIRE - it is a rust bucket lest you take care of it regularly. Esquel and Imilac slices are quite stable, my Brenham has been stable for more than 15 years now - others have had less luck because with Brenham it depends on whether it is an internal or an external piece (same thing with the Cape York irons). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Few More Grams of Anagrams
For the first time in months I have a chance to contribute to the m-list. I've got two or three lives going at the same time these days leaving little time for mischief.
A few monthsago we were treatedby an esteemed list member with a game ofmeteorite names that were scrambled to form small words. "Camel Donga" could be "Dog Manacle". No prizes, just some fun.
Well, I had fun, anyway..
In that vein I have found a program on-line at www.wordsmith.org/anagrams that allows one to automatically get the entire Universe of letter permutations of anything.
And as they say about anagrams, "All Life's wisdom can be found in anagrams. Anagrams never lie."
Well, I don't know about that, and I didn't select these to hurt anyone's feelings. You can always "anagram me" back. I'm sorry for those I left out,and some names don't work (Matteo Chinellato). But here's a few interesting anagrams I discovered.
Now boys and girls, this is to be taken in a lighthearted spirit. And don't worry, there's no "bad words" (except "damn") for those feeling innocent and squeamishor "cultured" (you know who you are).
And since many of us are truly "puzzle-challenged," or just don't have the time, I'll even solve them for you!
I plugged in some members of the list to see what lurks in the Ouija board.
Mike Farmer -
- "Rake 'em firm".
Geoff Notkin -
- "Fog of net ink", probably caused by "Net off, Gin OK".
Darryl Pitt -
- Darryl'smeteorites too expensive for you? "Pal, try dirt".
Alan Rubin -
- He's got so many, he needs "A Lunar Bin".
Matt Morgan
Buzzed by"Gnat marmot".
Jeff Grossman -
Imagine if he were reincarnated as a thankful Thai with a lisp, "Fang from Jess".
Russ Kempton -
Know someone witha strange "theory" you want "handled"? He "Pokes Mr. Nuts".
Monica Grady -
Was enjoying a "Monday Cigar" when "Nomadic Gary" yelled that there was "A God in my car." But he was dreaming, there was "no yard magic," just an "Inca Army Dog" which causedMonica to yawn and do her "Grand Ciao"while mumbling, "damn gory CIA."
Anne Black -
Since joining theanimal police, legallyshe "Can nab elk".
Luc Labenne -
Say it in French, "Un blanc eel".
Robert Haag -
Here's a case of "herb to raga."He tried to fool a farmer owning a meteorite he wantedwith "a hog barter" only to end up in "Gator Rehab".
Rob Elliot-
He's not middle-aged, he's an "oiler bolt".
Gregory Wilson-
Doesn't date, prefersthe company at an"Ornery owls gig" where he joins the fray, being a "wry goo slinger".
Nininger -
Compelled to follow those little voices,finally addresses them, "Hey, Inner Ravings".
Bernd Pauli -
He was eating a hot "Dublin Pear"while pondering an "idle bra pun" when he accidentally got "a burned lip." He had the urge, but his face hurt so he went into "burp denial" and everything became a "pained blur." Oh, I'm making all this up, it's just another "darn pub lie"
Steve Schoner -
"He never costs" when he"revs ones etch"
Steve Arnold and... Steve Arnold -
"Ever lost DNA"? Look in Park Forest. One "loves a trend" and the other is "and ever lost." They are NOTboth "Old veterans" and I hope that they willneverengage in "Dove Rentals." Together they really cover the bases but "Drat, no elves"?
Michael Casper-
Why not?
"Me, a relics champ"? He'll sell them in "a crimes chapel" and keephis money in "a cashmere clip."Looking through life in "a caleche prism," and what's this? - "A CA chile sperm"! A great salesman, he could "Charm a eclipse" even if he was going to "acclaim herpes." Now out of meteorites, he hangsoutside of New-Age boutiques as a "chime scalper".
Blaine Reed -
No "Drab Eileen" for him, he's married to a cute wife with a job jar, "Blaine Deer."... After smoking some of that "Abilene Red" he felt like a "brained eel." Invited, we visit his "Beaner Deli" where he looked confused but said, "A beer lend I." Truly a "Bien Dealer" is he.
("Bien" is "good.")
Michael Blood-
"Hello, I'm a CA bod" (better than a "Bimodal Chloe"). After a surprise meal of "Oh, old lab mice"? He "do belch a limo." Feeling better, he invited us to the auction, "Oh, come all bid."
O Richard Norton-
Seeing too many meteor-wrongs, he says he "cannot ID horror." Subconscious about his receding hair line he covers it with "torn condor hair." A bad day all around, word isout his prized"Iron had corn rot."
Ron Baalke-
Things were definitely NOT "OK in lab." Fluid everywhere, he checked what he could but there was "no bra leak," instead he discovered to his great dismay that his "anal broke."
But this is really about a dog that was found MIA in 1998 that Ron brought up again today.Now most great minds discount the fact that the dog ever existed. That makes Ron, "A Lone Bark."
And it's only fair that I do I:
Kevin Kichinka
- "He knick, via ink"
[meteorite-list] original rosamond
I agree with Mike. Let's get any corrections or revisions in to him and his brother so that the next version of A to Z will be even better than the last one. In the meanwhile, let's continue to refer to the 5th Edition of the Catalogue of Meteorites should we run into any contradictions or discrepancies. We've got Mike pretty much up-to-date on California and Nevada meteorites. But some of the information he can't use, yet, because it hasn't been published. Can't reference this information if it isn't published, yet. So even though I got the 'original Rosamond' classified at UCLA, I've been unsuccessful at getting that classification entered into the Meteoritical Bulletin. My task to get this updated information into the Catalogue requires that I get over that hurdle first. One more thing - the Pomona Collection... This is an old name that I purposely avoid using, because the proximity of Cal Poly Pomona to Pomona College can cause confusion. Also, Pomona College is only one of 8 or more schools that make up the Claremont Colleges. In truth, Claremont College didn't lose the Rosamond Meteorite, because this Consortium didn't even exit at that time. When it was lost, the meteorite was in a collection which resided in Pomona College, which is in Claremont, California. I find the term, Claremont Colleges Collection to be less confusing. The Claremont Colleges: http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/about/colleges.asp [meteorite-list] original rosamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:12:56 EDT Previous message: [meteorite-list] Nahkla dog story again reported as fact Next message: [meteorite-list] Geological team finds parts of meteorite-INDIA Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] --part1_f8.30fe0c98.2ca9ec48_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steve and List Thought I would clear up a little confusion over where I found the TKW for Rosamond Dry Lake. I originally used the Blue Book-4th edition Catalogue of Meteorites as the source of all the information I had for the listed meteorites in the front of our book Meteorites from A to Z. It was the most current at the time. Unfortunately it did not list a weight. I was able to find a weight in the Catalog of Meteorites in the Collection ASU of 400 grams and did include it as well as a reference. Today I did look up one of the references listed by Grady Catalogue of Meteorites 5th ed. The reference is from Contributions of the Meteoritical Society Vol. 4, No 1, 1947 Leonard A Catalog of the Meteorite Falls of the Eleven Western States p. 60. The weight listed in there is 850 grams. The reference also lists that the mass is in the Pomona Collection. You also might want to check out Bob V's page about the recently recovered Rosamond Dry Lake stone that weighs 875 grams. So the new TKW is 1725 grams. A HREF=http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/rosamond/rozmond1.htm; Bolide*chaser | Rosamond Dry Lake Trip - 2003 January 19/A BTW I have been working on updating the book. There will be several changes and corrections as well as including all the newly recognized meteorites since the last edition. If you have any corrections, additions, changes or other items you would like to see addressed please send the non Sahara stuff to me or the Sahara to my brother Bill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can't promise we will include it in the book but we will certainly try to add all verifiable information that is sent in. So please include some references where possible. Mike Mike Jensen Bill Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 Web Site: A HREF=http://jensenmeteorites.com/;Jensen Meteorites/A __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] List Archives Down
Hello List, This post is a Re-transmission! I apologize if this post has been repeated, but the first post never made it to the List Archives... The List Archives at - http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/ are down again. All September posts prior to: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:23:17 -0700 (PDT) are missing somewhere in cyberspace. I've already notified Art. It appears that this problem is getting worse over time. Usually, this happens near the end of the month. Since this is a server space problem, the first remedy would be for us to go on a diet and trim our messages down. And I don't mean that we should write shorter posts. I'm only suggesting to cut off the trailing ends of messages with long references to Original Messages. This typically happens with long threads. For sure, HTML posts are always at least twice as long as TEXT messages. This may be a service provider dependent thing (such as with listees on AOL) but some posts this past month have had HTML trash that was EIGHT (8) TIMES longer than the body of the message! Because of this latest trend, Art is thinking about lowering AGAIN the size limit of posts to the List. These filters are already rejecting 1800!! messages a WEEK! - mostly spam, but also posts to the List by non-members are relegated to this cyber-purgatory. So, in the future, if you are having troubles getting your posts to the List, try truncating your message before you bother contacting Art. According to Art, these problems are also contributing to the delay in new members getting approved, and in their getting access to the List! For the time being, until we can find a permanent fix, we should all do our part to ease the load on Art's admin duties. And it should be an easy thing to do; as simple as truncating redundant text. Just say No! to long messages. With best regar message truncated __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Request For Info on Majuba meteorite Nevada USA
Hi All I'm going beepin for beautiful meteorites and ugly nasty gold nuggets in the vicinity !! I thought I might spend some time lookin for additional pieces of it if it's in the vast goldfields there . One of my normal hunting partners (Jim Kreigh) says The best place to find meteorites is in a goldfield . I believe he's right !!! :o) Happy Huntin John Blennert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Denver Museum address
Writing a cordial letter to the museum, asking for a meteorite display, could sway the thoughts of Chief Executive Raylene Decatur. The address is: Denver Museum of Nature Science 2001 Colorado Blvd. Denver, CO 80005 Budget cuts have been made at the museum. This was taken from the Denver Post, Sunday edition: The cuts have even reached "Space Odyssey" staff. Curator Laura Danly was let go when she volunteered to leave rather than cut another person in her department. She had been the museum's space-sciences curator for five years. "It's wrenching. It's a tough time," Laura Danly said, refusing to comment further. The Denver Post was being polite with the above statement, as Laura Danly RESIGNED IN PROTEST, per an earlier Rocky Mountain News article. So, one letter won't do any good, a dozen letters requesting a meteorite display may get them thinking, but a few hundred would catch the museum's attention. E-mail? Better then nothing. After all, it's not like they would have to go out and buy the meteorites. You should see the Glorieta iron! A beauty. Thanks, Fred Hall
RE: [meteorite-list] RE:Hudson Bay Arc
Dear Charles (O'Dale) Thanks so much for this information. From what you provided, and what Sterling K. Webb had commented on: it looks like pure earth geology rules on this point, and it will become a litmus for those who investigate it further, must measure against. Long live the geologist! Thanks, CharlyV IMCA 4351 -Original Message- From: Charles O'Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:01 AM To: Charles R. Viau; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE:Hudson Bay Arc Charly V: In my article on the Clearwater West crater I do refer to the Hudson's Bay arc. http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/clearwater_west/index. html The input I received from geologists during my research is that the structure is the result of a mantle-plume uplift. The analogy would be, if you press a table tennis ball enough to cause a dent, it is almost perfectly circular. The same effect happened at Hudson's Bay when the mantle plume collapsed. Or so the latest theory goes. Below is the quote from my article and the paper it is based on. . To the west of the Clearwater Craters is the east coast of Hudson Bay. This circular coast is the result of a mantle-plume uplift, and IS NOT the result of an impact event. The arc of the east coast of Hudson Bay is illustrated in the upper left of this shuttle picture. Richmond Gulf is immediately to the right of the semi-circular shaped coast and Clearwater West meteorite crater is the circular shape in the center of the picture. (courtesy NASA) 1.. The sedimentary record of mantle-plume uplift, Robert H. Rainbird, Richard E. Ernst; Geological Society of America Special Paper 352, 2001. 2.. Negative results were reached by R. S. Dietz and J. P. Barringer in 1973 in a search for evidence of impact in the region of the Hudson Bay arc. They found no shatter cones, no suevite or unusual melt rocks, no radial faults or fractures, and no metamorphic effects. They pointed out that these negative results did not disprove an impact origin for the arc, but they felt that such an origin appeared unlikely. . Chuck Ottawa - Original Message - From: Charles R. Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Charles O'Dale' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:06 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Canada Waiting for the day that some news comes of the ongoing investigations in Hudson Bay, that huge half circle that comprises part of the bay is striking in its uniformity. If it turns out to be an astroblehme , it would certainly be the largest ever found. If not, it is the closest nature has ever come to eroding out an almost perfect half circle in a coastline. The last I heard about this suspected impact site, was a 3 year old article published by the Canadian Geologic Survey, saying that it was very difficult drilling core material up there, and it may take a long time before any kind of analysis is available. I also got the impression that they were having a hard time funding the work to be done. I also heard that there was a larger unconformity in the land mass around the coast (rim?) but there was no definitive evidence that it was caused by an impatct as yet. Anyone know of the principles involved in this search, or any new news? CharlyV IMCA_4351 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles O'Dale Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Canada Please see my article on the Chubb Crater aka New Quebec Crater aka Pingualuit Crater at: http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/pingualuit/index.html Thanks Chuck __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re:Pallasite available?
Matteo, In the high plains of Denver, Colorado, USA, my Brahin pallasites are doing very well, withstanding parentage and rust. Regards, Fred Hall
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available?
Here all Brahin pieces is go destroyed in 1 month or few months, the unique piece stable is a slice buy 7 years ago from Casper. For no speack of Brenham, Quijnque, Albin, Admire. No problems with Esquel and Imilac. Sincerely if I should spend some money I would spend them on a slice of Imilac or Esquel how I did, my slice of Imilac from 94 gr. is perfect after 5 months, a slice of brahin after this time is go destroy in 4 pieces. Regards Matteo --- John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Tim (and several other list members) on this one. There are some Brahin specimens available that are very stable. Best, John Gwilliam At 05:48 PM 9/29/03 -0500, Tim Heitz wrote: Matteo, NO ITS NOT all rusty Not all Regards, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite available? Yes, but brahin is a rusty bastard pallasite. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Would any one happen to have a small slice of a Pallasite for sale or maybe trade? I do not have one in my collection and figure it is time. I am looking for a small slice that has plenty of both materials for my viewing pleasure. : ) What about these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193646780 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484669 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2193484729 The 2193646780 Brahin would be my favorite though the 2193484729 Brahin is very nice too. The former looks more stable visually. Several months ago I got a nice little QUIJINGUE (3.5 grams) from AL Mitterling via Ebay and it is still very stable. Keep your hands off ADMIRE - it is a rust bucket lest you take care of it regularly. Esquel and Imilac slices are quite stable, my Brenham has been stable for more than 15 years now - others have had less luck because with Brenham it depends on whether it is an internal or an external piece (same thing with the Cape York irons). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
