[meteorite-list] Galaxie Meteorite - The start of war
Hello See that the person me seems only a poor religious fanatic who believes that these meteorites come goodness knows from where, I have put a bid on a piece therefore I will make the analyses and eliminate this poor man Regards Matteo --- magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Let's take a ride in the Way-Back Machine. The day is 26th, month is September and the year is 2001. Dealers receive the email below: Subj: Meteorites' Man made! Date: 9/26/2001 4:59:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank B. Amyx) To: I myself has seen a few hit the ground and including one travelled over 20 miles across the sky before me and a friend would witness it exploding just 2 feet above the pavement to the right of my car! (if i would of been traveling to fast It would of went through my cars roof). Then a few days after' during sunlight' (with a metal detector) I would find two of the fragments to it at the same time a trucker came bye and put a gun out the window and shot the backend of my car with a pistol). So I got the feeling it was some sort of sign' (Especially after I would later discover how to make my own meteorites)! Now you can see what I'm talking about for only $5.00 each at the size of 3-1/2 inches X 4 X 1/2 inch deep. Interested? (Even in man made Marsian meteorites with fossilization of fossils included)!! These make great Meteorite Mocking Gifts, for of course' A much lower price! For one dozen' Only $45.00 or for two dozen Only $80.00. Make Great Paper Weights! (Add $3.00 more on all orders for Marsian Rocks). Would you like me to send you a picture of one of my rocks first? end of email Photo of Fossilized man-made meteorite http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/Mvc-001xsm.jpg Remenber? Yes, Frank B. Amyx (ebay name golfyx) is back again! with same stuff, new name. (He makes Hinkle look like an artist). Best, ken newton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: OT - Massive Aurora
This aurora has been observed by 3 of our observers as far south as southern Portugal! They observed a red glow with distinct rays, sometimnes up to 40 degrees altitude. Unfortunately, the Netherlands and surroundings were clouded out. - Marco -- Dr Marco Langbroek Leiden, the Netherlands 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fire That Rocketed Across Sky Was a Meteor-Albuquerque J...
In a message dated 11/22/2003 7:20:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fire That Rocketed Across Sky Was a Meteor At least they didn't say in the article that it was a Leonid...which it was not. GeoZay
Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 TKW
Title: Nachricht Hi Hupes and List, I thought that, for a new meteorite to be given an official NWA number (or name), as part of the info to be supllied, would be to inform the know TKW at the time when it was found - and that later on, this amount could be updated if necessary, as more info would come in? It seems that it is not that simple! Regards, José Campos - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe To: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 Hi Bernhard and List, Nobody knows the TKW for NWA 984 but there must be at least a couple of kilos judging by the number of stones we have tested. All the best, Adam and Greg Hupe ---Hi Bernhard Original Message - From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 Hi there, and once again I am asking for a TKW of an NWA. I tried several sites and didn't find an answer. An auction on ebay states that the TKW for NWA 984 is just 89g - but I doubt that, looking at my collection (31g) and the masses of NWA 984 Greg and Adam are offering every week :-) So: who has solid numbers or can tell me that I am wrong? :-) Bernhard
[meteorite-list] rich guy on ebay?
Hello List, Have you ebay shoppers seen this Allende? This add has gone through ebay at least 5 times with no buyers. The seller must be rich to have placed this add so many times! I can just imagine the ebay fees he pays! I gave him a few friendly suggestions on how to increase his chances of selling it about a month ago, but apparently he likes them big fees! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2204094656 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] rich guy on ebay?
Dear List and Tom; How about since we purchase meteorites by the gram, that someone suggest to the gentleman that he include a gram weight. An additional thought, see what pieces of allende are selling for per gram and put a price in that neighborhood. Since dimensions are an approximate, and his $50 is thereseems high at a glance to me, if I new the grams and had time to check out other allende selling prices I could probably tell you it may be high priced and lacking enough information. Is it a whole specimen or a fragment? Fusion crust.Maybe some one could send him this thoughtor not, only the strong survive. I see no IMCA logo, although is feed back is ok, do we trust not to buy an odd meteorite from anywhere that is labeled Allende? By the pictures, it could be a piece of roasted California dwelling that is being auctioned. That is just my opinion and I am unanimous in that. Busy shipping, Dave Freeman IMCA # 3864 mjwy with auctions running Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, Have you ebay shoppers seen this Allende? This add has gone through ebay at least 5 times with no buyers. The seller must be rich to have placed this add so many times! I can just imagine the ebay fees he pays! I gave him a few friendly suggestions on how to increase his chances of selling it about a month ago, but apparently he likes them big fees! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2204094656 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: pinto mtns.
In my book "Meteorites Gone Awry" by world famous author "Whosagonna Believeme", the meteorite Pinto Mountains, L6, California, was found in 1854 by gold seeker Pinto Jones while digging for Pinto beans near high noon in the rugged Pinto Mountains. This 17.92 kg meteorite was shaped like a large bean with a brown crust. It is well know that upon digging up the meteorite Mr. Pinto Jones exclaimed "Hot dang, I gotta me a big bean!" So as you can see, the Meteoritical Highsociety had no choice but to name the meteorite "Pinto Mountains". I hope this helps in your search for misinformation on this fabulous meteorite. Regards, Fred Hall/Meteorhall
[meteorite-list] Sedimentary Rocks As Martian Meteorites??
The below research is interesting in that, if sedimentary deposits have accumulated in various parts of Mars, some of them might have become lithified enough to survived being blasted off it by meteorite impacts. As a result, Martian meteorites quite different from the igneous rocks normally recognized as meteorites might possibly exist. Yours, Paul Baton Rouge, LA Distributary Fan: Smoking Gun Evidence for Persistent Water Flow and Sediment Deposition on Ancient Mars MGS MOC Release No. MOC2-543, 13 November 2003 http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/11/13/ This week, the journal Science has published online (in Science Express) the most recent MOC discovery: an ancient, eroded, and exhumed sedimentary distributary fan located in a crater at 24.3°S, 33.5°W. A distributary fan is a generic term used by geologists to describe a family of deposits that includes river deltas and alluvial fans. Sometime in the distant past, when it was still possible for liquid water to flow across the martian surface, sediments transported through valleys by water formed a fan-shaped deposit in a 64-kilometer (40 miles) -diameter crater northeast of Holden Crater. What is important about this discovery? First, it provides clear, unequivocal evidence that some valleys on Mars experienced the same type of on-going, or, persistent, flow over long periods of time as rivers do on Earth. Second, because the fan is today a deposit of sedimentary rock, it demonstrates that some sedimentary rocks on Mars were, as has been suspected but never clearly demonstrated, deposited in a liquid (probably water) environment. Third, the general shape, pattern of its channels, and low topographic slopes provide circumstantial evidence that the feature was actually a delta--that is, a deposit made when a river or stream enters a body of water. In other words, the landform discovered by MOC may be the strongest indicator yet that some craters and other depressions on Mars once held lakes. and Malin, M. C., and Edgett, K. S., 2003, Evidence for Persistent Flow and Aqueous Sedimentation on Early Mars http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1090544v1 Published online November 13, 2003 Submitted on August 18, 2003 Accepted on October 28, 2003 Yours, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pinto mtns.
In a message dated 11/22/2003 12:57:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I bet the 5th editon of the catalogue of meteorites has it...probably on page 404. Might even say 1954...17.9 KG Riverside co. "Meteorites from A to Z" does mention it to. Page 86 Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
[meteorite-list] Meteor Crater Stock
Hello all- I have located a rarer-than-hens-teeth Meteor Crater Exploration and Mining Company stock certificate that will be held in a live auction in Reno on December 13. It is one of the blue preferred stock certificates signed by Brandon Barringer, Daniel's son. I have one myself already and just thought I would pass on the info, won't be bidding. It is lot number 149 and I am pretty sure you could set up an absentee bid or a telephone bid (really) with the owner of the company Fred Holabird at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 775-852-8822. It is in very fine condition but does have two holes punched in it as if it was once in a portfolio. I know when I was hunting them down, it took years to come across them and I haven't seen a single one since April 2001. I know one individual sells them in his catalog for over $700 and I think you could do better. The auction catalog shows a $400-600 est. value. Keep in mind a 15% buyers premium is added. A link to the history of the crater, including this failed mining attempt http://www.barringercrater.com/lite/impact/impact.htm Rocks From Space has a nice excerpt as well. They really cap off one's Canyon Diablo presentation. Good luck Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 TKW
Title: Nachricht Hello Jose and List, In a perfect world you should be able to simply email the NomCom with updates and they would be added to the TKW but it does not work that way. They do print corrections in the Meteoritical Bulletin if properly submitted and the committee feels it is important enough to publish.Some problems are how would they be able to tell they really are paired without coordinates to the find? Since there is a considerable amount ofnew material to study and deadlines to pursue, how can scientists devote the time to report every suspected pairing when there is so much unreported materialthat needs to be announced? The laboratories are overwhelmedso it will be some time before the pairing situations are resolved. We feel it is up to the dealers to report pairings tocollectors when there is little doubt. We have been burned a couple of times thinking we had the largest specimen from a particular find just to have a bigger piece show up. These problems continue to be discussed so hopefully solutions will present themselves in the future. By the way, several scientists are working in collaboration to figure out pairings and TKWs for the new Mesosiderites. All the best, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: Jose Campos To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 TKW Hi Hupes and List, I thought that, for a new meteorite to be given an official NWA number (or name), as part of the info to be supllied, would be to inform the know TKW at the time when it was found - and that later on, this amount could be updated if necessary, as more info would come in? It seems that it is not that simple! Regards, José Campos - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe To: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 Hi Bernhard and List, Nobody knows the TKW for NWA 984 but there must be at least a couple of kilos judging by the number of stones we have tested. All the best, Adam and Greg Hupe ---Hi Bernhard Original Message - From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:08 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 Hi there, and once again I am asking for a TKW of an NWA. I tried several sites and didn't find an answer. An auction on ebay states that the TKW for NWA 984 is just 89g - but I doubt that, looking at my collection (31g) and the masses of NWA 984 Greg and Adam are offering every week :-) So: who has solid numbers or can tell me that I am wrong? :-) Bernhard
[meteorite-list] pinto mtns.
In addition to Pinto Mountain, Steve, you need to check the details out. You need to do the research. I assumeyouchecked out the details regardingexporting Mexican antiquities like the one you listed in this Ebay auction under "meteorites": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2204702415category=3239rd=1 By the way, it is spelled Chichen Itza. All the best, Terry
[meteorite-list] Public Humilliation
Hi Steve and list. I just got my "1.46gm" NWA 1925with card originally fromMike Farmer. This is a beautiful gabbos eucrite he recently classified with very low tkw.I waslucky enough to have bought fro,Mike hislast 0.37g pieceat $100gram. He sold all he had in hours for less when first listed and retreived more from his partner on this specimen. So Ifelt veryfortunate for a chanceto upgrade. Howvever a few days after having won this from you, I saw a 5x4mm frag listedon ebay that had fallen "your'" piece. Thus I thought it might be prudent to weight my piece when it arrived today. This weighed in at 1.38gm on my scale short ~.08gms from the weight advertized and what's documented onFarmer's card. The reason why coins have ridges today is because in olden days unscrupulous people use to shave silver and gold of them to profit. While I'll admit that I still got a great price andit small potatoes to re-pen my card- Shame,Shame, Shame! Don't ever do this again without saying so in writing. Steve, I thought you'drather take your flogging here on the list than I give you negative feed back on ebay. Sincerely, Howard Wu "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list.I just got my half gram slice of pinto mountains.It is a nicelittle piece.I want to thank martin horejsi for this fine little gem.Alsodoes anyone know the history of this meteorite?steve=Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.comhttp://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/__Do you Yahoo!?Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it nowhttp://companion.yahoo.com/__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger
Re: [meteorite-list] pinto mtns.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet the 5th editon of the catalogue of meteorites has it...probably on page 404. Might even say 1954...17.9 KG Riverside co. Meteorites from A to Z does mention it to. Page 86 I bet it looks just like this book here: ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2199762509 Best, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Non-magnetic Brick Meteorite on eBay
Adam Hupe wrote: Here is a nice brick shaped meteorite wrong for the discriminating collector: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2204998729category=3239 Before anyone starts trying to inform the seller of his meteor wrong-- this is a rehashed auction from a few months back..Same photo, same compressed neutrons, same yada yada... I don't think he took our emails to him well... Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd ball non-standard petrologic slides on eBay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve and mark- I am selling these small thin sections of park Forest and if you think I took the time carefully cut them down in size that's fine. What purpose would this serve? The cover slip completely covers the specimen so it is not to get two out of one. Steve, you have jumped on me for this before...it is the way my thin section maker made them. It is a thin section, sorry the slide doesn't fit your scope. -- Rob Wesel Rob, I think having a standard size size allows for indexing a slide's features so another researcher can return to the same point(s) on a different microscope. Regards, Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Protecting Chondrites
Hello List, Vishnu, Some meteorites are very friable meaning you can crumble them with little to moderate hand pressure. Friable meteorites are well know but not necessarily common. The rust marks are likely just that-- rusting iron flakes and can come from handling and storage conditions. As I recall this arrived during a monsoon. You might be able to arrest the rusting/lawencite disease using the procedures for stabelizing irons but perhaps another list member can elaborate on treating a friable stone such as Burbojle(sp) which fell through sea ice and deeply into the underlying mud. Elton I have noticed brown specks on my Orissa chondrite are these rust marks? Is there anyway to prevent this from happening or at least control this. Another silly doubt I have is that this meteroite is very brittle...just breaks apart when pressed hard...is this common for chondrites? clear skies Vishnu __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seven New Galaxy Class Meteorites on eBay
Dear List Members, Since one of the Galaxy meteorites sold this seller is offering seven more, only 299 left. It looks like this kind of seller figures since he sold one meteorite wrong why not sell seven? Who cares if he made the meteorites himself? This seems to be a pattern repeated time and time again. I remember about four years ago a seller who was selling hematite week after week as Arizona meteorites making thousands of dollars on poor unsuspecting buyers. He was told dozens of times these were not meteorites and continued to sell them anyway. I think people were too embarrassed to leave negative feedback which allowed him to continue for some time. Sometimes it is comical to see these offerings until several collectors or would be collectors get burned in the process, then the fun ceases. All the best, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Protecting Chondrites
Hi Eltion, Bill and everyone Thank you for the adivice. I am planning to get a thin section made out of one of the fragments but I am unsure if anything will survive the cutting and polishing process. Any suggestions on doing thin sections of brittle chondrites? Thank you once again for the help. clear skies Vishnu --- E.J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Vishnu, Some meteorites are very friable meaning you can crumble them with little to moderate hand pressure. Friable meteorites are well know but not necessarily common. The rust marks are likely just that-- rusting iron flakes and can come from handling and storage conditions. As I recall this arrived during a monsoon. You might be able to arrest the rusting/lawencite disease using the procedures for stabelizing irons but perhaps another list member can elaborate on treating a friable stone such as Burbojle(sp) which fell through sea ice and deeply into the underlying mud. Elton I have noticed brown specks on my Orissa chondrite are these rust marks? Is there anyway to prevent this from happening or at least control this. Another silly doubt I have is that this meteroite is very brittle...just breaks apart when pressed hard...is this common for chondrites? clear skies Vishnu __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = --- Vishnu Vardhan Reddy Department of Space Studies University of North Dakota, Grand Forks ND 58203, USA. Phone-701-777-9641 www.space.edu Spaceguard India www.spaceguardindia.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pinto mtns.
Dear List, and Friends; There are just too many Dave's around here, sort of like the Michael's of the past. Why would one want to sell the handiest reference book out there on meteorites? And to part with a book that contains pictures of my most precious (forgive me my other friends who have and do not have books out there) meteorite authors... Like a carpenter selling his saw and hammer? Beyond me, Dave Freeman's beyond DNAndrews wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet the 5th editon of the catalogue of meteorites has it...probably on page 404. Might even say 1954...17.9 KG Riverside co. Meteorites from A to Z does mention it to. Page 86 I bet it looks just like this book here: ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2199762509 Best, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Seven New Galaxy Class Meteorites on eBay
Dear All; As soon as MY galaxie meteorite arrives, I will leave positive feed backwonderful man made imitation consisting of acrylic art, or something to that effect. Should we have a contest to help me craft some positive words to ward off future uneducated lemmings that do not know wrong from rite? I have been approached by a couple who want me to cut it up and sell it by the gram...mmm...maybe this would benefit the IMCA web site AGAIN! It is a purple thing you know... Best, Dave Freeman IMCA # 3864 eBay user ID mjwy auctions running. Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List Members, Since one of the Galaxy meteorites sold this seller is offering seven more, only 299 left. It looks like this kind of seller figures since he sold one meteorite wrong why not sell seven? Who cares if he made the meteorites himself? This seems to be a pattern repeated time and time again. I remember about four years ago a seller who was selling hematite week after week as Arizona meteorites making thousands of dollars on poor unsuspecting buyers. He was told dozens of times these were not meteorites and continued to sell them anyway. I think people were too embarrassed to leave negative feedback which allowed him to continue for some time. Sometimes it is comical to see these offerings until several collectors or would be collectors get burned in the process, then the fun ceases. All the best, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Protecting Chondrites
Hello Vishnu and List, The best way we have found to cut thin sections from very friable material is to use a plastic ring. 1) Put the specimen on top of paper. 2) Place a plastic ring around the specimen. 3) Use the same optically correct expoxy used to attach specimens to slides to fill the ring around the specimen inside. 4) Let dry. 5) Cut the ring making sure to cut through the specimen trapped in the epoxy. 6) Proceed as normal. This method works great. All the best, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: vishnu reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: E.J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Protecting Chondrites Hi Eltion, Bill and everyone Thank you for the adivice. I am planning to get a thin section made out of one of the fragments but I am unsure if anything will survive the cutting and polishing process. Any suggestions on doing thin sections of brittle chondrites? Thank you once again for the help. clear skies Vishnu --- E.J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Vishnu, Some meteorites are very friable meaning you can crumble them with little to moderate hand pressure. Friable meteorites are well know but not necessarily common. The rust marks are likely just that-- rusting iron flakes and can come from handling and storage conditions. As I recall this arrived during a monsoon. You might be able to arrest the rusting/lawencite disease using the procedures for stabelizing irons but perhaps another list member can elaborate on treating a friable stone such as Burbojle(sp) which fell through sea ice and deeply into the underlying mud. Elton I have noticed brown specks on my Orissa chondrite are these rust marks? Is there anyway to prevent this from happening or at least control this. Another silly doubt I have is that this meteroite is very brittle...just breaks apart when pressed hard...is this common for chondrites? clear skies Vishnu __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = -- - Vishnu Vardhan Reddy Department of Space Studies University of North Dakota, Grand Forks ND 58203, USA. Phone-701-777-9641 www.space.edu Spaceguard India www.spaceguardindia.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pinto mtns. or Meteorites from A to Z!
I don`t think anyone would want to buy mine. I have too many notes written in it. By the way, when does the second edition come out? I really need a new one, since my collecting direction has change, and need to jot down some new notes! Another Dave. Dear List, and Friends; There are just too many Dave's around here, sort of like the Michael's of the past. Why would one want to sell the handiest reference book out there on meteorites? And to part with a book that contains pictures of my most precious (forgive me my other friends who have and do not have books out there) meteorite authors... Like a carpenter selling his saw and hammer? Beyond me, Dave Freeman's beyond DNAndrews wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet the 5th editon of the catalogue of meteorites has it...probably on page 404. Might even say 1954...17.9 KG Riverside co. Meteorites from A to Z does mention it to. Page 86 I bet it looks just like this book here: ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2199762509 Best, Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Noe Garza Prologue
A while back I asked Noe Garza, of Park Forest fame, to do me a favor. I asked him to write his thoughts, his memoirs for me. Happily, he agreed. Sure, tell me what you want me to write This was the preprogrammed response Noe had been used to over the last few months, signed affidavits, documents to authenticate his meteorite fragments, whatever was needed to complete the transaction. He had become so accustomed to doing this that he figured I wanted something to verify my 27.5 gram fragment. Well Noe, that's just it, you write whatever you want. Don't give me what I want per se, give me what you want to be remembered from this experience. Be candid, be blunt, but be honest My request came with two stipulations: 1) If he was going to do it, I wanted it to be hand written. 2) I would not sell his words and if he wanted, I would keep it to myself alone. Furthermore, I encouraged his son Robert and wife Paulette to add their thoughts as well. I explained that this is why I collect. I have said it before, I collect stories, and meteorites make for good storytelling. Fear, wonder, opportunity, destruction, chance, humanity, science, this list goes on. This was a lot to ask, a big favor, but that is the kind of people the Garza's are. People do things for each other, and profit is not always a motive. Earlier this week it arrived, seven glorious handwritten pages, and a signed cover sheet affidavit (a leopard can't change all of his spots). With Noe's permission I now send his words along. They were freely given to me, I freely give them to you, but they are for personal use or UNADVERTISED freebies as you see fit. They are not to be used in conjunction with any sale in which their inclusion is a part of the package. I will be both upset and disenchanted if the Garza's intent is exploited, and the list will hear of it. That bit of ugliness said... Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Letter From Noe Garza
As written by Noe Garza Again, this is for personal archive use only, use of this transcript to generate profit in any way is not authorized: On March 26, 2003 around 11:50 pm we the Garza's had an unusual thing happen to us. A very special gift from God. As I was growing up going to school, we learned a lot of strange things in space. I really did not care about meteorites or anything in that subject. Yes I had to learn to pass and get a grade. Never in my I thought of one hitting my house! One of the greatest things was meeting a lot of people. All the meteorite collectors and buyers. I became friends with some and still to this day we keep in contact via email. If you ask me some were really a little crazy but this is the way they make their living buying and selling. After dealing with the meteorite collectors and the media my life changed somewhat. I was able to buy things I could not afford. We made some changes to our home like a new kitchen, new floor in living and dining rooms. We also helped out our parents who are retired now. My son bought a bike and my other two sons who are married also received a little cash. My wife Paulette got a digital camera and as for me a beer tapper/cooler, I wanted that for years. And if you ask me if I miss the media around yes I do. Once in a while I run into some old friends and they talk about me being on TV. I was able to save a lot of media coverage newspapers and TV news video. I would like to thank Rob Elliot from the U.K. for buying some meteorites from me and still keeping in touch with us, Steve Witt from Indiana for calling me and bringing Rob Elliot to us. Greg and Adam Hupe for purchasing my damaged bedroom, both from Washington. Rob Wesel who sent us a DVD of the news coverage. It was also nice meeting Mike Farmer, Rob Haag, Allen Langheinrich, Steve Arnold, Edwin Thomson, Greg(ory) Wilson. Up to this day I have not stopped learning more about meteorites. I go online and do some research almost every day. I'm waiting to hear from some meteorite magazines that have written about us. This letter was especially written for Robert Wesel. Thanks Rob for everything. Noe Garza Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Letter From Paulette Garza
As written by Paulette Garza Again, this is for personal archive use only, use of this transcript to generate profit in any way is not authorized: Robert, I have always been interested in the sciences and curious about comets, falling stars, etc. You don't know how surprised I was to discover our house had been struck by a meteorite. What are the odds of that! On March 26th shortly before midnight my son (Michael) and I were returning from the airport when suddenly the sky lit up. Looking up I saw a large ball of sparkly glowing light. Then just as suddenly the sky went dark with the exception of the glowing ball. It too slowly faded followed by continuous booming noise and streams of light flying through the sky. At first I thought it was fireworks but soon determined that it wasn't. To say the least this began to frighten me. Entering the house my husband said someone threw a rock through the window. I went upstairs to see not only a hole through the window but also through the roof and a big grey rock. I called 911 and was informed that they were not sure what was happening but that numerous reports were coming in. When the police and fire department arrived we were told that the rock may be radioactive. We were also informed that they were in contact with the FBI and NASA. The entire time I'm wondering what happens if the rock is radioactive. Of course I had visions of ET with the bubble around the house. You don't know how relieved I was to find out it wasn't radioactive. The following morning the media began showing up and to our amazement we discovered the rock was a meteorite. That day there was a constant stream of reporters and people who just wanted to see the bedroom. In the days and months that followed we had numerous calls and visits from collectors, museums, and meteorite enthusiasts. I know this may sound strange but I'm glad the meteorite struck our house. This experience allowed us to meet a lot of really nice people. I enjoyed talking to everyone and I learned a lot about meteorites. I especially am glad to have met Steve Witt, Rob Elliot, and Greg Hupe! Also, we sold the meteorite and were able to make a few home improvements, pay a few bills and help a few people. I will never forget this experience. Paulette Garza Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Garza letter eiplogue
Good stuff. The beer tapper/cooler really drove it home for me. We all have different wants in our lives, conveniences, perks. I spoke with Noe about this and the galactic symphony it took to manifest his beer tapper/cooler. A supernova, a nebula, gravity, time, and chance. That beer tapper/cooler was his long before he was born. Another great anecdote a few months ago from Noe that did not make the letter was the fact that one day a couple months after the fall, Noe awoke to thunder. He recalled to me his desperate wish, readying himself and speaking with an inner monolog Come on, I'm ready, come on! hoping it was another space rock headed his way. Have a good Holiday all, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] pinto mtns. or Meteorites from A to Z!
In a message dated 11/22/2003 5:22:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don`t think anyone would want to buy mine. I have too many notes written in it. By the way, when does the second edition come out? I really need a new one, since my collecting direction has change, and need to jot down some new notes! Another Dave. We are working on it!! I even have an appointment with the printer on Monday. Any comments Mike?? Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356
[meteorite-list] Re: Meteor Crater Stock
Rob, If I buy this stock certificate, does that mean I'll be a part owner in the company? I've always wanted to own Meteor Crater! ...And I'll be able to go prospecting too! Hey! You can't kick me off the property! See? I'm a part owner! :) - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ . Hello all- I have located a rarer-than-hens-teeth Meteor Crater Exploration and Mining Company stock certificate that will be held in a live auction in Reno on December 13. It is one of the blue preferred stock certificates signed by Brandon Barringer, Daniel's son. I have one myself already and just thought I would pass on the info, won't be bidding. It is lot number 149 and I am pretty sure you could set up an absentee bid or a telephone bid (really) with the owner of the company Fred Holabird at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 775-852-8822. It is in very fine condition but does have two holes punched in it as if it was once in a portfolio. I know when I was hunting them down, it took years to come across them and I haven't seen a single one since April 2001. I know one individual sells them in his catalog for over $700 and I think you could do better. The auction catalog shows a $400-600 est. value. Keep in mind a 15% buyers premium is added. A link to the history of the crater, including this failed mining attempt http://www.barringercrater.com/lite/impact/impact.htm Rocks From Space has a nice excerpt as well. They really cap off one's Canyon Diablo presentation. Good luck Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Garza letter eiplogue
Dear Rob; I am all warm and fuzzy inside. We have too few instances of people being genuine these days, and the Garza's exemplify the good in our humanity, and the idealism that good things happen to good people. Thank you, and the Garza family for sharing their feelings with us all. Sincerely, Dave Freeman Rob Wesel wrote: Good stuff. The beer tapper/cooler really drove it home for me. We all have different wants in our lives, conveniences, perks. I spoke with Noe about this and the galactic symphony it took to manifest his beer tapper/cooler. A supernova, a nebula, gravity, time, and chance. That beer tapper/cooler was his long before he was born. Another great anecdote a few months ago from Noe that did not make the letter was the fact that one day a couple months after the fall, Noe awoke to thunder. He recalled to me his desperate wish, readying himself and speaking with an inner monolog Come on, I'm ready, come on! hoping it was another space rock headed his way. Have a good Holiday all, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Saint Aubin
Very nice, but my favorite for beauty is another Saint... St. Michel, L6, fell 1910 in Finland. High Regards, Fred Hall
[meteorite-list] Re: Meteor Crater Stock
Bob, not only will you be part owner but you get a share of the profits from the Meteor Crater entrance fees! So you can retire and sit in the space capsule on site for hours on end. Look Maw, I'm going to the Moon! Imagine the look on friends faces when you tell them...I own a piece of the rock... that blasted a hole one mile across in the Arizona desert! Another fine idea, cut the stock certificate into thousands of tiny pieces and sell them on E-bay. You could call them "Bessy Certificates". Opps, sorry Dean, I let the cat out of the bag. Speaking of Dean, I wonder how his vacation is going? Is he back from the Far East yet? Haven't heard a thing from him in a while on this list. Happy Thanksgiving to All, Fred Hall
[meteorite-list] Serious Stuff--Public Humilliation
---BeginMessage--- Howard and list, I read your letter and looked at the Ebay auctions. Uh...this appears to be rather serious. Maybe I'm missing something...a plethora of ads I can live with, but it sure seems that a line was crossed here. Steven Sachs IMCA # 9210 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Seven New Galaxy Class Meteorites on eBay
Schitz-o-phrenic You pretty much summed it up there Matteo, the guy's a loon. Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Seven New Galaxy Class Meteorites on eBay Is for this I have bid to one, after I take analysis and inform Ebay of the fraudthis man is schitzophrenic, enough to read its email... Regards Matteo --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List Members, Since one of the Galaxy meteorites sold this seller is offering seven more, only 299 left. It looks like this kind of seller figures since he sold one meteorite wrong why not sell seven? Who cares if he made the meteorites himself? This seems to be a pattern repeated time and time again. I remember about four years ago a seller who was selling hematite week after week as Arizona meteorites making thousands of dollars on poor unsuspecting buyers. He was told dozens of times these were not meteorites and continued to sell them anyway. I think people were too embarrassed to leave negative feedback which allowed him to continue for some time. Sometimes it is comical to see these offerings until several collectors or would be collectors get burned in the process, then the fun ceases. All the best, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
