Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds

2009-02-21 Thread mexicodoug

Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed skies at the moment,

A few stones were found right at the time of the fall, however, they 
were not definitively identified as meteorites - though that was the 
suspicion and they were saved.


We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove across the 
country and estimated the location of the strewn field within 48 hours 
of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four hours after the 
second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized hospitality, we 
arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple of stones and I 
had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand and removing any 
lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites fresh from Heaven's 
farm.


After the initial success, my good friend and asteroidhunter, Rob 
Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We have found some 
stones, but more are being found by others, and we really expect larger 
masses to be found, though hard work in the field definitely gets you 
wondering if just because such a meteoritical spectacle drops one 
stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting to see? The TKW 
is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite hard by hunters 
already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and some areas are very 
easy to search, though bramble in other areas effectively keeps those 
off limits. All land is private and most families keep their gun 
collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of the landowners 
have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of the bolide's 
fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other reports, only 
because residents of the area treasure their privacy and were 
completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters that descended. 
We almost lost our permission to hunt when they believed that we were 
somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters showing up with a 
news crews. Besides being quite busy, I promised to respect the 
anonymity of our hosts as a condition of our search, and this evening 
we reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked dinner prepared by 
the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner table. There is a great 
Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the flavor for anyone wanting to 
experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls from West, TX.


It has been an incredible last few days, which started by being the 
first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my mother had some 
problems (she seems better now) that have somewhat muted what will 
undoubtedly be some of the most memorable moments of my life. It is way 
past bedtime and I will post more tomorrow. The meteorite itself is 
moderately to highly shocked and has a very bright, light, interior and 
veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and the majority of stones 
found are fully fusion crusted. More on the classification on Saturday. 
We certainly were not in a mass-laden portion of the strewn field, 
other hunters please take note; more likely just a place where a minor 
fragmentation impacted. In any case, we are committed to getting the 
science done so everyone else can rest assured that we have already 
gladly provided the mass requirements necessary for this honor.


All in all, a very humbling experience for many reasons. To pick up a 
piece of a falling star and I thought, detect a faint sulfurous odor. 
It seems a dog even caught the scent of a meteorite and laid it down on 
the owners porch!


Best wishes and clear skies
Doug


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From: Pat Branch pat_bra...@yahoo.com
To: drtan...@yahoo.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum 
meteor...@meteorobs.org

Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) West, Texas meteorite finds


The University of North Texas Astronomers have found 4 so far. I saw a
video clip of them. The biggest is about 3 times the others...just
about palm sized.

I think that is 4 for Farmer and 4 for UNT. I have not heard of other
teams finding anything.


--- In meteor...@yahoogroups.com, drtanuki drtan...@... wrote:


Dear List,
Here are the latest reports from the West, Texas fall.

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds

2009-02-21 Thread ensoramanda
Quick...make an offer for the dog!

Thanks for the interesting update/report.

Graham Ensor UK

 mexicod...@aim.com wrote: 
 Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed skies at the moment,
 
 A few stones were found right at the time of the fall, however, they 
 were not definitively identified as meteorites - though that was the 
 suspicion and they were saved.
 
 We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove across the 
 country and estimated the location of the strewn field within 48 hours 
 of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four hours after the 
 second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized hospitality, we 
 arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple of stones and I 
 had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand and removing any 
 lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites fresh from Heaven's 
 farm.
 
 After the initial success, my good friend and asteroidhunter, Rob 
 Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We have found some 
 stones, but more are being found by others, and we really expect larger 
 masses to be found, though hard work in the field definitely gets you 
 wondering if just because such a meteoritical spectacle drops one 
 stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting to see? The TKW 
 is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite hard by hunters 
 already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and some areas are very 
 easy to search, though bramble in other areas effectively keeps those 
 off limits. All land is private and most families keep their gun 
 collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of the landowners 
 have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of the bolide's 
 fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other reports, only 
 because residents of the area treasure their privacy and were 
 completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters that descended. 
 We almost lost our permission to hunt when they believed that we were 
 somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters showing up with a 
 news crews. Besides being quite busy, I promised to respect the 
 anonymity of our hosts as a condition of our search, and this evening 
 we reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked dinner prepared by 
 the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner table. There is a great 
 Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the flavor for anyone wanting to 
 experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls from West, TX.
 
 It has been an incredible last few days, which started by being the 
 first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my mother had some 
 problems (she seems better now) that have somewhat muted what will 
 undoubtedly be some of the most memorable moments of my life. It is way 
 past bedtime and I will post more tomorrow. The meteorite itself is 
 moderately to highly shocked and has a very bright, light, interior and 
 veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and the majority of stones 
 found are fully fusion crusted. More on the classification on Saturday. 
 We certainly were not in a mass-laden portion of the strewn field, 
 other hunters please take note; more likely just a place where a minor 
 fragmentation impacted. In any case, we are committed to getting the 
 science done so everyone else can rest assured that we have already 
 gladly provided the mass requirements necessary for this honor.
 
 All in all, a very humbling experience for many reasons. To pick up a 
 piece of a falling star and I thought, detect a faint sulfurous odor. 
 It seems a dog even caught the scent of a meteorite and laid it down on 
 the owners porch!
 
 Best wishes and clear skies
 Doug
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pat Branch pat_bra...@yahoo.com
 To: drtan...@yahoo.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum 
 meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:28 am
 Subject: Re: (meteorobs) West, Texas meteorite finds
 
 
 The University of North Texas Astronomers have found 4 so far. I saw a
 video clip of them. The biggest is about 3 times the others...just
 about palm sized.
 
 I think that is 4 for Farmer and 4 for UNT. I have not heard of other
 teams finding anything.
 
 
 --- In meteor...@yahoogroups.com, drtanuki drtan...@... wrote:
 
  Dear List,
  Here are the latest reports from the West, Texas fall.
 
  http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
 
  Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] whats your job

2009-02-21 Thread DEBORAH ANNE K. MARTIN
Planetarium lecturer, 51 years old

Andre Bordeleau

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[sdunklee72...@yahoo.com]
Sent: February 19, 2009 11:50 AM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] whats your job

I work for a minning company in Arkansas and am 50 years old.
Steve Dunklee



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Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds

2009-02-21 Thread mail
Nicely done Doug. Thanks for the update. I will be heading there Wednesday and 
you made the wait even harder!!
Best
Matt
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA

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From: mexicod...@aim.com

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:36:11 
To: meteor...@meteorobs.org; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds


Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed skies at the moment,

A few stones were found right at the time of the fall, however, they 
were not definitively identified as meteorites - though that was the 
suspicion and they were saved.

We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove across the 
country and estimated the location of the strewn field within 48 hours 
of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four hours after the 
second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized hospitality, we 
arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple of stones and I 
had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand and removing any 
lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites fresh from Heaven's 
farm.

After the initial success, my good friend and asteroidhunter, Rob 
Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We have found some 
stones, but more are being found by others, and we really expect larger 
masses to be found, though hard work in the field definitely gets you 
wondering if just because such a meteoritical spectacle drops one 
stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting to see? The TKW 
is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite hard by hunters 
already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and some areas are very 
easy to search, though bramble in other areas effectively keeps those 
off limits. All land is private and most families keep their gun 
collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of the landowners 
have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of the bolide's 
fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other reports, only 
because residents of the area treasure their privacy and were 
completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters that descended. 
We almost lost our permission to hunt when they believed that we were 
somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters showing up with a 
news crews. Besides being quite busy, I promised to respect the 
anonymity of our hosts as a condition of our search, and this evening 
we reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked dinner prepared by 
the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner table. There is a great 
Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the flavor for anyone wanting to 
experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls from West, TX.

It has been an incredible last few days, which started by being the 
first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my mother had some 
problems (she seems better now) that have somewhat muted what will 
undoubtedly be some of the most memorable moments of my life. It is way 
past bedtime and I will post more tomorrow. The meteorite itself is 
moderately to highly shocked and has a very bright, light, interior and 
veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and the majority of stones 
found are fully fusion crusted. More on the classification on Saturday. 
We certainly were not in a mass-laden portion of the strewn field, 
other hunters please take note; more likely just a place where a minor 
fragmentation impacted. In any case, we are committed to getting the 
science done so everyone else can rest assured that we have already 
gladly provided the mass requirements necessary for this honor.

All in all, a very humbling experience for many reasons. To pick up a 
piece of a falling star and I thought, detect a faint sulfurous odor. 
It seems a dog even caught the scent of a meteorite and laid it down on 
the owners porch!

Best wishes and clear skies
Doug


-Original Message-
From: Pat Branch pat_bra...@yahoo.com
To: drtan...@yahoo.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum 
meteor...@meteorobs.org
Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) West, Texas meteorite finds


The University of North Texas Astronomers have found 4 so far. I saw a
video clip of them. The biggest is about 3 times the others...just
about palm sized.

I think that is 4 for Farmer and 4 for UNT. I have not heard of other
teams finding anything.


--- In meteor...@yahoogroups.com, drtanuki drtan...@... wrote:

 Dear List,
 Here are the latest reports from the West, Texas fall.

 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

 Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

2009-02-21 Thread Dave Gheesling
41, residential trade contracting www.feigroup.net
All best,
Dave 

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Twelker
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:13 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

I am a meteorite dealer.  That's how I make my living.  Occasionally I take
on a bit of work in my hobby-job as a mining exploration geologist.  That
was my career at one time.  I did that for 13 years and was a lawyer for
another 15 years after that--I am 59 now.  I don't practice law any more,
but when I did it tended to be natural resource mega-cases.  I am happily
married for 30 years with two very smart sons--one a geologist and one a
physicist.  (They were two little guys holding meteorites on Paul and Jim's
meteorite kids web  
page ages ago.)  I love geology and thinking about the Earth . . .   
and trying to understand it.  Meteorites play a part, of course-- always a
spark for a thought, an idea . . .

Eric Twelker
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Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

2009-02-21 Thread Timothy Heitz


57yr old laid off Electrician from Chrysler who thinking of going from a 
part time to full time METEORITE DEALER


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Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds

2009-02-21 Thread Norm Lehrman
Doug,

Thanks for your story.  And Mike F., you've been great.  You can't know how 
envious we are, patiently waiting at our post for something to shatter on the 
atmosphere over east Africa.  Just hearing your stories and knowing you guys 
and picturing the search in our minds makes us feel like we've touched 
greatness---

Thanks for sharing.  (But as I have relayed to others privately, the Tucson 
pictures shared by listoids were a bit cruel.  We've missed it for two years 
and it hurts bad---.  But really, thanks for your pics.  The tugs on our 
heartstrings hurt a bit, but they keep us going).

We'll be back.

Cheers (from Tanzania),
Norm  Cookie
(http://tektitesource.com)


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, mexicod...@aim.com mexicod...@aim.com wrote:

 From: mexicod...@aim.com mexicod...@aim.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds
 To: meteor...@meteorobs.org, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:36 AM
 Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed skies at
 the moment,
 
 A few stones were found right at the time of the fall,
 however, they were not definitively identified as meteorites
 - though that was the suspicion and they were saved.
 
 We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove
 across the country and estimated the location of the strewn
 field within 48 hours of the event. With a bit of tenacity,
 scarcely four hours after the second day, thanks to the help
 of some Texas-sized hospitality, we arrived in the strewn
 field and found our first couple of stones and I had the
 distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand and removing
 any lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites
 fresh from Heaven's farm.
 
 After the initial success, my good friend and
 asteroidhunter, Rob Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with
 the team. We have found some stones, but more are being
 found by others, and we really expect larger masses to be
 found, though hard work in the field definitely gets you
 wondering if just because such a meteoritical spectacle
 drops one stone, should it drop the thousands we keep
 expecting to see? The TKW is rapidly evolving, but the area
 is being hit quite hard by hunters already. This doesn't
 seem to be a dense fall, and some areas are very easy to
 search, though bramble in other areas effectively keeps
 those off limits. All land is private and most families keep
 their gun collections well oiled. In our case, the
 big-hearts of the landowners have humbled easily as much as
 the witness reports of the bolide's fragmenting itself.
 This is at odds with some other reports, only because
 residents of the area treasure their privacy and were
 completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters that
 descended. We almost lost our permission to hunt when they
 believed that we were somehow responsible for several
 meteorite hunters showing up with a news crews. Besides
 being quite busy, I promised to respect the anonymity of our
 hosts as a condition of our search, and this evening we
 reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked dinner
 prepared by the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner
 table. There is a great Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds
 to the flavor for anyone wanting to experience Texas
 culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls from West, TX.
 
 It has been an incredible last few days, which started by
 being the first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my
 mother had some problems (she seems better now) that have
 somewhat muted what will undoubtedly be some of the most
 memorable moments of my life. It is way past bedtime and I
 will post more tomorrow. The meteorite itself is moderately
 to highly shocked and has a very bright, light, interior and
 veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and the majority of
 stones found are fully fusion crusted. More on the
 classification on Saturday. We certainly were not in a
 mass-laden portion of the strewn field, other hunters please
 take note; more likely just a place where a minor
 fragmentation impacted. In any case, we are committed to
 getting the science done so everyone else can rest assured
 that we have already gladly provided the mass requirements
 necessary for this honor.
 
 All in all, a very humbling experience for many reasons. To
 pick up a piece of a falling star and I thought, detect a
 faint sulfurous odor. It seems a dog even caught the scent
 of a meteorite and laid it down on the owners porch!
 
 Best wishes and clear skies
 Doug
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pat Branch pat_bra...@yahoo.com
 To: drtan...@yahoo.com; Global Meteor Observing Forum
 meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:28 am
 Subject: Re: (meteorobs) West, Texas meteorite finds
 
 
 The University of North Texas Astronomers have found 4 so
 far. I saw a
 video clip of them. The biggest is about 3 times the
 others...just
 about palm sized.
 
 I think that is 4 for Farmer and 4 for UNT. I have not
 heard of other
 teams finding 

Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

2009-02-21 Thread Timothy Heitz
57yr old laid off Electrician from Chrysler who thinking of going from a 
part time to full time METEORITE DEALER


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Re: [meteorite-list] The West hunt

2009-02-21 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - 

   If there's any sulfur (troilite) in these, then the dog sounds like a real 
good idea - particularly for the high brush. Maybe you could rent him. 
   With that steak house nearby, rewards for him should be easy to come by.

good hunting,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Brown Crystals Orange Crystals...was advice needed

2009-02-21 Thread Göran Axelsson
To me it doesn't look like titanite. The angles are totally wrong and 
the flat sides. (looking at picture #17, Crystal shape 2 reflected light 
x40) For me it looks more like a pyroxene crystal.

Anyhow, it's an easy test for a microprobe.

Good luck and thanks for the look!

/Göran


Mr EMan wrote:

Hello Jim,

The brown opaque elongated lozenge-shaped crystal(s) which are in cross section 
in the thin section, very much resembles titanite CaTi[O|SiO4] formerly known 
as sphene.  The cross-section shape is classic for sphene IMO.  Sphene is 
something like 2.5 to 3 times longer on the width axis than on the height axis 
but this is just memory so please verify that yourself. Mindat.org is a place 
to do specific mineral searches, BTW.

There is also a complicated Titanium bearing mineral called titanate with ana:
CaAl2Si2O8-Fe2TiO4-FeTi2O5 which I assume as some spinel form based on the 
description at mindat.org.  My guess is that this forms upon interaction with 
Fe-vapor in subsequent metamorphoses by impact melting of the lunar soil???  I 
am not saying the crystal you have is titanate but just wanted to impress you 
with my Googling skills. Just kidding! I mentioned it in case you accidentally 
get sent to that page owing to similar spelling.

Rutile, TiO2  forms blades, needles, and hexagonal prisms--Yet another titanium mineral 
common in lunar rocks. I caught a slide suggesting a hexagonal orange structure was 
possibly a glass sphere but given the rays within it, that might be rutile.

All these minerals have been found in lunar rocks /meteorites AFAIK. 


For what it is worth, have you considered a cosmic ray track count as well? I 
don't know the cost but you may have enough left over from TS prep to or the TS 
itself.

Congrats on the research and specimen prep so far: Impressive!
Elton

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Suzanne and Jim suzieand...@yahoo.com wrote:

  

From: Suzanne and Jim suzieand...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list]  need some advice,



 
 
  

I am trying to determine the nature of the
orthorhombic-like opaque red/brown crystals I have seen in a
slice I am considering having analyzed.



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[meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD

2009-02-21 Thread MeteorHntr
Hey List,

I have one West, Texas specimen  I would be willing to sell.  Contact me off 
list if you might be  interested.  

I will not be able to respond until late tonight to  any replies.

Steve Arnold
www.SteveArnoldMeteorites.com  

**A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy 
steps! 
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[meteorite-list] AD: Rare Postcard and Meteorie Stamps ending SUNDAY

2009-02-21 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. I have auctions ending tomorrow for any one wanting rare single 
meteorite stamps in MNH and a very nice rare vintage unused meteorite 
postcard that will come with a Cape York Meteorite Stamp in MNH.


http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/emflocater

Thank you
Sincerely
Don Merchant
IMCA #0960 


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Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?

2009-02-21 Thread GREG LINDH
Hi,

I'm 60 years old. I'm retired from a cell to cell ministry at San Quentin 
Prison, in California.  I currently live with my wife in Prescott Valley, 
Arizona.

Greg Lindh



- Original Message - 
From: Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:29 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?



 Hello List,

 as we communicate frequently through the List, I sometimes think about 
 what is your job ?

 The meteorites are what we share in common but most of you are not 
 meteorite dealers. So I thought it could be cool to know a little bit more 
 from each other.

 So I start ;-)
 I'm 38, live west of Paris (France) and am Project Manager on TV for 
 Orange (telecommunications company)

 Pierre-Marie Pele
 www.meteor-center.com



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunters flock to West area

2009-02-21 Thread David Pensenstadler
Mike:

Good explanation for those of us who can only sit back here and wish.  Hope you 
find that main mass.

Dave


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 To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
 meteorh...@aol.com, dfpen...@yahoo.com
 Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:13 PM
 All of this land is private, and let me tell you, you had
 better get permission first, then hunt. Just today we asked
 permission to hunt one property and were flat out denied,
 the old woman said that not one person had better set foot
 on her land. apparently someone had and had been seen by the
 landowners. We were hunting the property next door and
 watching those people patrol on four-wheelers, glaring at
 us. 
 Strange people out here, but some really nice ones. We
 contracted several hundred acres today, free to search, we
 must pay a set gramprice to the owners for anything we find.
 
 We have already made payments to landowners. That is not
 public need to know, just between the hunters and the
 landowners. 
 There will not be any free ride out here, that is for sure.
 
 Some pieces have been found in the roads though, that is
 finder-keeper.
 Michael Farmer
 
 
 --- On Fri, 2/20/09, David Pensenstadler
 dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunters flock
 to West area
  To: Meteorite Central
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com,
 meteorh...@aol.com
  Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 3:13 PM
  Mike, Moritz, Robert, Shauna, and others:
  
  Great work.
  
  I was wondering whether this fall is on private, city,
 or
  government property, and who actually owns the finds. 
 Since
  Mike posted that this is all farm country I inferred
 that it
  is all private property.  If so, do you guys always
 get
  permission to hunt the property?  Do the property
 owners get
  anything in return for their permission to hunt?
  
  With so many people arriving to hunt, it seems that
 this
  could be a concern by some hunters if not all people
 know
  the proper procedures for hunting on various types of
  property.
  
  Just wondering.
  
  Dave
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 nwa...@comcast.net
  wrote:
  
   From: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net
   Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunters flock
 to
  West area
   To: Meteorite Central
  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
   Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 8:25 AM
   Interesting Article on Texas Fall:
   
  
 http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1214950.html
   
   Jim Strope
   421 Fourth Street
   Glen Dale, WV  26038
   
   http://www.catchafallingstar.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD

2009-02-21 Thread Howard Steffic

Well, that didn't take long.  Selling the first one you found?

Howard Steffic 



 From: meteorh...@aol.com
 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:53:42 -0500
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] West Specimen for sale AD
 
 Hey List,
 
 I have one West, Texas specimen  I would be willing to sell.  Contact me off 
 list if you might be  interested.  
 
 I will not be able to respond until late tonight to  any replies.
 
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: AD: AUCTION HIGHLIGHTS-30% OFF SALE Next 24 Hours Only-Then Headed to The Field!

2009-02-21 Thread michael cottingham






Hello,

Here is this weeks Auctions. Many Thousands of Dollars Worth Of  
Great Specimens- Started At 0.99 Cents. I am also having a 30% off  
sale running for the next 24 Hours. Then I am off to West, Texas to  
Hunt/Buy some new stones. I have what appears to be the Main Mass of  
West, Texas available to me so I am going to go check it out! THE  
30% OFF SALE STARTS IN ABOUT AN HOUR!





HIGHLIGHTS:


Fresh New-Main Mass, NWA 5544, L5, 204 gram, A Really Nice MAIN MASS !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311904449

Complete Slice of TOLUCA, Mexico, IAB, 392g- A Great Slice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311868972

Beautiful GIBEON, IVA Iron Specimen, 308g CS - My LAST Complete  
Slice for Auction!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311879744

Seldom Available SOUSLOVO, Russia, L4, 2.62g, This is a cool  
meteorite!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311878948

Super Rare HONOLULU, L5 Fall, 0.072 gram, MY very LAST ONE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311876902

(NEW), NWA 5534, L5-6, 48.54 gram, This is a really pretty specimen!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311877216

Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 22.23 g, A Beautiful END CUT! Check  
Out The Fusion Crust!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861515

Ungrouped Ataxite, DRONINO, Russia, 134 g, Nice Complete Slice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861542

A Classic, OZONA, Texas, H6 Chondrite, 3.59g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861525

(New) WILBUR WASH, Az., L6, Slice, 3.41 gram, Only A Limited Amount  
Available!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861551

(New) CV3, NWA 5546 From Africa, 88.27 gram-BIB-BIG SPECIMEN!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861557

Really Nice BELLE PLAINE, Kansas, L6, 4.53 g-Pretty Slice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861562

Rare  Low TKW, DAVY (B), Texas, H4, 4.09g-RARE, VERY LOW TOTAL  
KNOWN WEIGHT!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861571

Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 2.88g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861577

CANYON DIABLO Individual, 165.66 gram-Nice Individual!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861585

Seldom Available TAHOKA, Texas, L5, 1.66 g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861592

VYATKA, Russia, H4/5 Chondrite, 11.70g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311861597

(New) NWA 4734, Lunar Specimen Display!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311866563

(NEW) NWA 4293, H6, 100 gram Lot #1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311866939

Nice Slice of OUM DREYGA, Fall, H3-5, 24.04g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311871286

(NEW) NWA 4851, L6 With Shock Lines, 120.10g-A VERY BEAUTIFUL  
SPECIMEN!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873550

Super Rare GEORGETOWN, Australia, 5 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873976

(NEW) An Amazing LL5, NWA 2380, 48.79 gram- THIS Is A Very Cool  
Meteorite!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311876658

(New) Olivine Diogenite-NWA 5480, 5.59 gram- Nice Slice of This  
Famous Rarity!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311875090

Classic GOLD BASIN, Arizona, L4, 57.12 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311903931

Rare Mesosiderite- NWA 1878 , LTKW, 7.87 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311903408



Here are some killer deals-Lowest of The Lowest on most of these!

A Big Stone! NWA Chondrite, 14kg, Main Mass,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311873196

Super Rare GEORGETOWN, Australia, 928 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311878350

(New) WILBUR WASH, Az., L6, Main Mass, 1234g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311870578

Beautiful L3, SAHARA 02500, 8,700 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311896672

(NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Main Mass, 7,000 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311893486

RARE LAKE MURRAY, Ok, IIAB, Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311909729

Ungrouped Ataxite, DRONINO, Russia, 2594 g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311893480

Superb Specimen of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 3608 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311881940

The Blue Chondrite, NWA 1941, Main Mass, L6
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200311849243


and Many, Many Others...

See All At:


http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history


Thanks and Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham

















[meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas

2009-02-21 Thread Ruben Garcia
There is indeed a meteorite finding dog! 

Here's the story. On Friday Sonny, Steve Arnold and I drove into the strewn 
field bright and early and immediately started knocking on doors to try to gain 
permission to hunt. Upon walking up to a particular house Sonny spotted a 
meteorite on the porch (about 70-90 grams) he picked it up, and laid it back 
down. Ruben, did you see that fully crusted meteorite on the porch? He Said. 
I couldn't believe it. He was right! Right there on the porch but no one was 
home...what to do? Since Sonny assured me that he wasn't going to buy 
meteorites when he could find them I decided to track down the owner and try to 
buy the specimen. 

I got the owners work phone number from a neighbor and called. After 
introducing myself and explaining what I was in town for, I told the owner that 
there was a meteorite on their porch. What, you mean that black rock that the 
dog brought up and dropped on the porch?  Yes, that one I said.  

Needless to say, I drove down and did a nice video interview with the owner 
holding the space rock and recalling the tale. 


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com, 
 meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:18 AM
 Quick...make an offer for the dog!
 
 Thanks for the interesting update/report.
 
 Graham Ensor UK
 
  mexicod...@aim.com wrote: 
  Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed
 skies at the moment,
  
  A few stones were found right at the time of the fall,
 however, they 
  were not definitively identified as meteorites -
 though that was the 
  suspicion and they were saved.
  
  We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove
 across the 
  country and estimated the location of the strewn field
 within 48 hours 
  of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four
 hours after the 
  second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized
 hospitality, we 
  arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple
 of stones and I 
  had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand
 and removing any 
  lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites
 fresh from Heaven's 
  farm.
  
  After the initial success, my good friend and
 asteroidhunter, Rob 
  Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We
 have found some 
  stones, but more are being found by others, and we
 really expect larger 
  masses to be found, though hard work in the field
 definitely gets you 
  wondering if just because such a meteoritical
 spectacle drops one 
  stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting
 to see? The TKW 
  is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite
 hard by hunters 
  already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and
 some areas are very 
  easy to search, though bramble in other areas
 effectively keeps those 
  off limits. All land is private and most families keep
 their gun 
  collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of
 the landowners 
  have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of
 the bolide's 
  fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other
 reports, only 
  because residents of the area treasure their privacy
 and were 
  completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters
 that descended. 
  We almost lost our permission to hunt when they
 believed that we were 
  somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters
 showing up with a 
  news crews. Besides being quite busy, I promised to
 respect the 
  anonymity of our hosts as a condition of our search,
 and this evening 
  we reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked
 dinner prepared by 
  the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner table.
 There is a great 
  Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the flavor for
 anyone wanting to 
  experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls
 from West, TX.
  
  It has been an incredible last few days, which started
 by being the 
  first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my
 mother had some 
  problems (she seems better now) that have somewhat
 muted what will 
  undoubtedly be some of the most memorable moments of
 my life. It is way 
  past bedtime and I will post more tomorrow. The
 meteorite itself is 
  moderately to highly shocked and has a very bright,
 light, interior and 
  veins of troilite and nodules of metal, and the
 majority of stones 
  found are fully fusion crusted. More on the
 classification on Saturday. 
  We certainly were not in a mass-laden portion of the
 strewn field, 
  other hunters please take note; more likely just a
 place where a minor 
  fragmentation impacted. In any case, we are committed
 to getting 

[meteorite-list] A request for ALL dealers - please read! :)

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Listees!

I have a humble request for all of the dealers who are on the list.

Please consider standardizing your specimen cards to fit into the
display window of 3x4 Riker box.  Roman Jirasek's labels are
great, but there are many falls or finds not represented in his
inventory yet - especially for the hot desert meteorites.  So I'd
like to use the specimen cards I receive from many of you when
I purchase the piece.  Some of you make very nice cards that would
serve double duty as display labels, but the labels are too wide
or otherwise not sized to fit the Riker window. 

Some of the specimen labels I have from various dealers are very
attractive and I can tell that some thought and creative energy
went in to designing them.  Since the 3x4 Riker box is a widely
used collector standard, I'd just like to kindly float the
suggestion that the big dealers design their specimen cards to
display in these boxes accordingly.

Best regards,

MikeG


.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Cressy
Hi Rubin and all,

One hundred and fifty years ago, a stone fell in Bethlehem, New York on August 
11 that also involved a meteorite finding dog, apparently not as well trained 
as the West, Texas dog.  C.U. Shepard wrote:

 “Mr. Vanderpool was at work near his house, and heard the explosion in 
common with other members of his family.  About two minutes after, as it 
appeared to him, a stone, coming in an oblique course, struck the side 
of a wagon house, glanced off, hit a log upon the ground, bounded again, and 
rolled into the grass.  A dog lying in the doorway of the wagon house sprang 
up, darted out and seized it, but dropped it immediately,probably on 
account of its warmth and sulphurous small.”

And of course there's the story about the dog that found the Lost City 
meteorite in January, 1970.  Must have been too heavy to carry so he just 
marked it, probably so he could find it again.  ;-)

Cheers,

Frank 


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ruben Garcia meteoritem...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ruben Garcia meteoritem...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com, 
meteor...@meteorobs.org, ensorama...@ntlworld.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:08 PM

There is indeed a meteorite finding dog! 

Here's the story. On Friday Sonny, Steve Arnold and I drove into the strewn
field bright and early and immediately started knocking on doors to try to gain
permission to hunt. Upon walking up to a particular house Sonny spotted a
meteorite on the porch (about 70-90 grams) he picked it up, and laid it back
down. Ruben, did you see that fully crusted meteorite on the porch?
He Said. I couldn't believe it. He was right! Right there on the porch but
no one was home...what to do? Since Sonny assured me that he wasn't going to
buy meteorites when he could find them I decided to track down the owner and try
to buy the specimen. 

I got the owners work phone number from a neighbor and called. After
introducing myself and explaining what I was in town for, I told the owner that
there was a meteorite on their porch. What, you mean that black rock that
the dog brought up and dropped on the porch?  Yes, that one I
said.  

Needless to say, I drove down and did a nice video interview with the owner
holding the space rock and recalling the tale. 


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
wrote:

 From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com,
meteor...@meteorobs.org
 Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:18 AM
 Quick...make an offer for the dog!
 
 Thanks for the interesting update/report.
 
 Graham Ensor UK
 
  mexicod...@aim.com wrote: 
  Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed
 skies at the moment,
  
  A few stones were found right at the time of the fall,
 however, they 
  were not definitively identified as meteorites -
 though that was the 
  suspicion and they were saved.
  
  We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove
 across the 
  country and estimated the location of the strewn field
 within 48 hours 
  of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four
 hours after the 
  second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized
 hospitality, we 
  arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple
 of stones and I 
  had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand
 and removing any 
  lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites
 fresh from Heaven's 
  farm.
  
  After the initial success, my good friend and
 asteroidhunter, Rob 
  Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We
 have found some 
  stones, but more are being found by others, and we
 really expect larger 
  masses to be found, though hard work in the field
 definitely gets you 
  wondering if just because such a meteoritical
 spectacle drops one 
  stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting
 to see? The TKW 
  is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite
 hard by hunters 
  already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and
 some areas are very 
  easy to search, though bramble in other areas
 effectively keeps those 
  off limits. All land is private and most families keep
 their gun 
  collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of
 the landowners 
  have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of
 the bolide's 
  fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other
 reports, only 
  because residents of the area treasure their privacy
 and were 
  completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters
 that descended. 
  We almost lost our permission to hunt when they
 believed that we were 
  somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters
 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas

2009-02-21 Thread Walter Branch

Hi Frank,

Funny story.  Thanks for sharing.

BTW, I just re-read your article on in Meteorite on Braunau.  Interesting 
detective work.


-Walter

- Original Message - 
From: Frank Cressy fcre...@prodigy.net
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; mexicod...@aim.com; 
meteor...@meteorobs.org; ensorama...@ntlworld.com; 
meteoritem...@yahoo.com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas



Hi Rubin and all,

One hundred and fifty years ago, a stone fell in Bethlehem, New York on 
August 11 that also involved a meteorite finding dog, apparently not as 
well trained as the West, Texas dog.  C.U. Shepard wrote:


“Mr. Vanderpool was at work near his house, and heard the explosion in 
common with other members of his family.  About two minutes after, as it 
appeared to him, a stone, coming in an oblique course, struck the side
of a wagon house, glanced off, hit a log upon the ground, bounded again, 
and rolled into the grass.  A dog lying in the doorway of the wagon house 
sprang up, darted out and seized it, but dropped it immediately, 
probably on account of its warmth and sulphurous small.”


And of course there's the story about the dog that found the Lost City 
meteorite in January, 1970.  Must have been too heavy to carry so he just 
marked it, probably so he could find it again.  ;-)


Cheers,

Frank


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ruben Garcia meteoritem...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ruben Garcia meteoritem...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com, 
meteor...@meteorobs.org, ensorama...@ntlworld.com

Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:08 PM

There is indeed a meteorite finding dog!

Here's the story. On Friday Sonny, Steve Arnold and I drove into the 
strewn
field bright and early and immediately started knocking on doors to try to 
gain

permission to hunt. Upon walking up to a particular house Sonny spotted a
meteorite on the porch (about 70-90 grams) he picked it up, and laid it 
back

down. Ruben, did you see that fully crusted meteorite on the porch?
He Said. I couldn't believe it. He was right! Right there on the porch but
no one was home...what to do? Since Sonny assured me that he wasn't going 
to
buy meteorites when he could find them I decided to track down the owner 
and try

to buy the specimen.

I got the owners work phone number from a neighbor and called. After
introducing myself and explaining what I was in town for, I told the owner 
that

there was a meteorite on their porch. What, you mean that black rock that
the dog brought up and dropped on the porch?  Yes, that one I
said.

Needless to say, I drove down and did a nice video interview with the 
owner

holding the space rock and recalling the tale.


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v


--- On Sat, 2/21/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
wrote:


From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com,

meteor...@meteorobs.org

Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:18 AM
Quick...make an offer for the dog!

Thanks for the interesting update/report.

Graham Ensor UK

 mexicod...@aim.com wrote:
 Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed
skies at the moment,

 A few stones were found right at the time of the fall,
however, they
 were not definitively identified as meteorites -
though that was the
 suspicion and they were saved.

 We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove
across the
 country and estimated the location of the strewn field
within 48 hours
 of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four
hours after the
 second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized
hospitality, we
 arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple
of stones and I
 had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand
and removing any
 lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites
fresh from Heaven's
 farm.

 After the initial success, my good friend and
asteroidhunter, Rob
 Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We
have found some
 stones, but more are being found by others, and we
really expect larger
 masses to be found, though hard work in the field
definitely gets you
 wondering if just because such a meteoritical
spectacle drops one
 stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting
to see? The TKW
 is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite
hard by hunters
 already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and
some areas are very
 easy to search, though bramble in other areas
effectively keeps those
 off limits. All land is private and most families keep
their gun
 collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of
the landowners
 have humbled 

Re: [meteorite-list] A request for ALL dealers - please read! :)

2009-02-21 Thread Ed Deckert

Hi Michael,

What size card would you think to be optimal?  I realize specimen sizes can 
vary, and sometimes I may put a larger slice in a 3x4 Riker box that creates 
an issue with label size.


I'm still experimenting with label sizes, and would be interested in your 
thoughts.


Ed Deckert
IMCA #8911

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] A request for ALL dealers - please read! :)



Hi Listees!

I have a humble request for all of the dealers who are on the list.

Please consider standardizing your specimen cards to fit into the
display window of 3x4 Riker box.  Roman Jirasek's labels are
great, but there are many falls or finds not represented in his
inventory yet - especially for the hot desert meteorites.  So I'd
like to use the specimen cards I receive from many of you when
I purchase the piece.  Some of you make very nice cards that would
serve double duty as display labels, but the labels are too wide
or otherwise not sized to fit the Riker window.

Some of the specimen labels I have from various dealers are very
attractive and I can tell that some thought and creative energy
went in to designing them.  Since the 3x4 Riker box is a widely
used collector standard, I'd just like to kindly float the
suggestion that the big dealers design their specimen cards to
display in these boxes accordingly.

Best regards,

MikeG


.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Finding Dog in West Texas

2009-02-21 Thread ensoramanda
Well I,ve seen dogs trained to hunt for truffles (and actually they look a lot 
like meteorites!) so why not a dog trained to find meteoritesnow this one 
has got the scent as such, perhaps you should be hiring it to track down the 
rest Ruben!

Can't wait for the video...what a great meteorite to have in your collection 
with a story like that...did you manage to buy it? Did the dog see it fall and 
run to fetch or do you think it found it interesting because of its smell?

Graham Ensor, UK.

 Ruben Garcia meteoritem...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 There is indeed a meteorite finding dog! 
 
 Here's the story. On Friday Sonny, Steve Arnold and I drove into the strewn 
 field bright and early and immediately started knocking on doors to try to 
 gain permission to hunt. Upon walking up to a particular house Sonny spotted 
 a meteorite on the porch (about 70-90 grams) he picked it up, and laid it 
 back down. Ruben, did you see that fully crusted meteorite on the porch? He 
 Said. I couldn't believe it. He was right! Right there on the porch but no 
 one was home...what to do? Since Sonny assured me that he wasn't going to buy 
 meteorites when he could find them I decided to track down the owner and try 
 to buy the specimen. 
 
 I got the owners work phone number from a neighbor and called. After 
 introducing myself and explaining what I was in town for, I told the owner 
 that there was a meteorite on their porch. What, you mean that black rock 
 that the dog brought up and dropped on the porch?  Yes, that one I said.  
 
 Needless to say, I drove down and did a nice video interview with the owner 
 holding the space rock and recalling the tale. 
 
 
 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix, Arizona
 Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
 Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
 Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v
 
 
 --- On Sat, 2/21/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:
 
  From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com ensorama...@ntlworld.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, Texas meteorite finds
  To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, mexicod...@aim.com, 
  meteor...@meteorobs.org
  Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:18 AM
  Quick...make an offer for the dog!
  
  Thanks for the interesting update/report.
  
  Graham Ensor UK
  
   mexicod...@aim.com wrote: 
   Hello from Sunny Texas, under clear and starry-eyed
  skies at the moment,
   
   A few stones were found right at the time of the fall,
  however, they 
   were not definitively identified as meteorites -
  though that was the 
   suspicion and they were saved.
   
   We (Doug Dawn, Dmitry Sadilenko, Sergey Petukov) drove
  across the 
   country and estimated the location of the strewn field
  within 48 hours 
   of the event. With a bit of tenacity, scarcely four
  hours after the 
   second day, thanks to the help of some Texas-sized
  hospitality, we 
   arrived in the strewn field and found our first couple
  of stones and I 
   had the distinct pleasure of shaking the finders hand
  and removing any 
   lingering doubts in his mind that he had meteorites
  fresh from Heaven's 
   farm.
   
   After the initial success, my good friend and
  asteroidhunter, Rob 
   Matson of Los Angeles, joined up with the team. We
  have found some 
   stones, but more are being found by others, and we
  really expect larger 
   masses to be found, though hard work in the field
  definitely gets you 
   wondering if just because such a meteoritical
  spectacle drops one 
   stone, should it drop the thousands we keep expecting
  to see? The TKW 
   is rapidly evolving, but the area is being hit quite
  hard by hunters 
   already. This doesn't seem to be a dense fall, and
  some areas are very 
   easy to search, though bramble in other areas
  effectively keeps those 
   off limits. All land is private and most families keep
  their gun 
   collections well oiled. In our case, the big-hearts of
  the landowners 
   have humbled easily as much as the witness reports of
  the bolide's 
   fragmenting itself. This is at odds with some other
  reports, only 
   because residents of the area treasure their privacy
  and were 
   completely overwhelmed by the wave of treasure hunters
  that descended. 
   We almost lost our permission to hunt when they
  believed that we were 
   somehow responsible for several meteorite hunters
  showing up with a 
   news crews. Besides being quite busy, I promised to
  respect the 
   anonymity of our hosts as a condition of our search,
  and this evening 
   we reaped the benefits of a delicious home-cooked
  dinner prepared by 
   the caring hands of our hosts at their dinner table.
  There is a great 
   Texas steakhouse on I-35 which adds to the flavor for
  anyone wanting to 
   experience Texas culture, cowboys and pretty cowgirls
  from West, TX.
   
   It has been an incredible last few days, which started
  by being the 
   first to walk in a virgin strewn field, though my
  

Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ? (Robert Williamson)

2009-02-21 Thread catoni52


  I'm retired from General Motors of Canada Ltd. after thrity years of six 
and seven days a week three shifts. Would still be there but the doc told me 
to get out when I can. I love hiking and camping, Geocaching.
  I purchased textbooks on meteorites due to my interest in Astronomy. I'm 
also interested in history, particularly ancient history. Built a small 
collection of ancient Greek and Roman coins and artifacts, and American and 
Canadian silver.
 Living on a lot less income now, and that has forced me to stop buying 
meteorites and coins, and I'm still supporting one teenager in his hockey 
teams.
  But at least I got some good ones, like Allende, Murchison, NWA 482 and 
Zagami and others like some Olivine Diogenites and nickle-irons. And it is 
all thanks to dealers who are members in this group.


  My sincere thanks guys. You helped my family and me to touch the stars. 
Michael Farmer, Dean Bessey, the Hupes, Rob Wesel, Erik Twelker and others 
here. Many thanks to you all.


 Best Regards,  Robert Williamson


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