Melanie,
No, I do not know the seller.
The poor quality photos are just a nuisance.
The text indicates to me that the seller does not know meteorites.
Sounds like he took a few notes from someone elses legitimate ad.
No mention of export permits is a giant red flag, though.
You could always ask
Melanie, Linton,
The photos depict what are clearly fresh stony meteorites, regardless
of their quality (viz., the photos').
This seller is a local and has been selling Buzzard Coulee stones
since shortly after the fall.
I've spoken with them on a few occasions, and, while I haven't
actually
Wow! Marcin, what a fantastic Camel Donga...one of the most extremely oriented
pieces I've ever seenso frothy on the back it looks more like slag.
Excellent photo.
All the best,
Graham, UK
Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote:
Hi Melanie and List,
I don't know who the seller is, but the photos and descriptions leave
much to be desired.
If they can't put the time and effort into decent photos and a good
description, then it makes me wonder about the legal paperwork too.
LOL
Best regards,
MikeG
On 3/31/10, Melanie
Hi Everyone:
A friend of mine (Greg Beckner) in Gainsville, FL just sent me this. He
was out with a group of scouts and saw the following (second paragraph):
I took my Cub Scout pack to the model airplane field last night showed
them a few R/C aircraft. A sidebar to that is the field is
Here's GPS cords of flying field - I was looking Almost Due South - maybe
just a
little to the East of due South.
Maybe an Alpha Capricornid? right period, right time, right direction and
usually bright and slow to catch peoples attention.
GeoZay
hi all
this a very rare achondrite that is probably a lunar paired to nwa series of
NWA 2995 NWA 2996 NWA 3190 NWA 4503 NWA 5151 NWA 5152
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/
if interested please email me
thanks
aziz habibi
ps i have many other chondrite very nice looking and great shape so
Dear List,
Photos and information just off of the wire in Slovakia and Hungary. 64
pieces of meteorite have been found from the reported 28FEB2010 Hungary
Fireball. They were found near Koice, Slovakia as projected by the Hungarian
data.
Great job to the people in Hungary, Czech, Slovakia
In http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-March/062654.html
Darren Garrison quoted GeoZay as stating:
“I just watched this program. It's left me wondering where are all
those meteorites from billions of tons of debris that supposedly fell
on Sodom and Gomorrah? If that one nearby
Hi:
He probably is legit. So if you don't mind having stones that have no
export permits or properly documented provenance, go for it.
Has anyone asked him about export permits? Or mentioned the potential
$50,000 fine?
Murray
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks
http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20100330/UPDATES01/100330018
Meteorite-like rock strikes near Rist Canyon home
Roger Hebbert got more than a cake for his 75th birthday this morning; he awoke
to find what he believes is a meteorite that struck just 10 feet from his rural
Rist Canyon home.
This guy gets my vote for eBay's biggest scammer ever. Make sure you click
on See other items for this seller. You won't believe what he's trying to
sell. You would think eBay would look into this. The descriptions are
hilarious!
Martian limestone with fossils:
This one's pretty funny too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Space-Glass-The-Inner-Core-Of-A-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ250577491156QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a579514d4
Phil Whitmer
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Hey, Blaine! This guy is almost in your back yard.
25 miles away.. He'll probably take a local check
and allow you to pick these up! LOL
Dennis
From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:42:57 -0400
Subject: [meteorite-list]
This one's pretty small for 10 grand:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Meteorite-Little-Rock_W0QQitemZ170465781220QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27b08d65e4
eBay meteorwrongs, a never ending source of entertainment!
Phil Whitmer
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Dear List,
The four million dollar meteorite showed up that I mentioned yesterday. The
sad thing is that these people actually convince themselves that these are real
meteorites and that they are worth millions. This guy thinks his is exactly
like Sonny's find that he saw on TV, only bigger.
Oh dear.
Looks like an old toilet plunger that's been melting in the hot desert sun!
Good luck with your rejection letter.
Linton
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM
Subject:
Adam/List:
I have found stuff like this - looks like melted tar that has hardened to
appear like glass; sometimes they have clasts inside. It is weird stuff. Are
the white crystals quartz?
Yea -just send it back and tell him to go to a local University and get a
second opinion.
Thanks for
Well Jason, I certainly could be wrong.
I just hate to see anybody here get burned.
My eyes can't tell for sure that those are fresh, fusion-crusted stones,
as opposed to little black earth rocks, due to the photo quality.
They do look somewhat probable though, I'll admit.
The larger problem to
Adam,
What kind of Tar is it?? Too funny.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320dat=19930815id=J-8RIBAJsjid=H-sDIBAJpg=4008,4347655
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Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear List,
The four million dollar meteorite showed up that
When I was in West, TX a woman told me that someone had painted some rocks
black and placed them on her lawn; I never got to see them as I had met her on
the road when was I was returning to my car. I had to leave and she had to go
to town. I really wanted to see them. Practical Jokes...
Yes, it would be funny but this kind of person will rarely take no for an
answer. It would not be surprised at all to see it on eBay half priced at two
million dollars after I return it. I can imagine the description now:
FOR SALE:
Qty one spent comet, complete with degassed chamber. Be the
This just goes to show how bogus reports get into the news after so called
experts are consulted. The biggest clue that it was not a meteorite was surely
the scorched grass and the long skid mark along the grass instead of an impact
pit.
cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Adam,
What kind of Tar
This just goes to show how bogus reports get into the news after so called
experts are consulted. The biggest clue that it was not a meteorite was surely
the scorched grass and the long skid mark along the grass instead of an impact
pit.
cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Adam,
What kind of Tar
Adam,
The ebay description would also probably say. Dis meteor was send too and
examined by world renounededead meteor exppert Addam hupes. And was returned
to me sertifyed mail with his bested wishes!. .
--
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Meteoritemax
Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
From the pic it looks like one of my grandson's diapers...specially the part
about the skid mark.
Guido
-Original Message-
From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com
Sent: Mar 31, 2010 2:45 PM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Latest Nevada Find, Not
This
Take a look at the photos in the article, does this appear to be an
achondrite/eucrite maybe?
-
On the eastern Slovakia fell meteorite, scientists found fragments of
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/714433
Eastern Slovakia fell to
Eric, Another surprising point; DID you happen to take a look at the fusion
crust??? Anyone with experience as you claim should have noticed the fusion
crust; is this what would be expected from a a Eucrite?
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
It is interesting, and sad, what greed and blind hope do to some people.
Best,
John Gwilliam
At 10:40 AM 3/31/2010, Adam Hupe wrote:
Dear List,
The four million dollar meteorite showed up that I mentioned
yesterday. The sad thing is that these people actually convince
themselves that these
No Eric,
You claim to offer meteorite ID and a news service for meteorite USA. This
requires book and practical experience. No personal attack intended. Lack of
basic study is not an excuse. Dirk Ross...Tokyo
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
From:
The fusion crust does look like that of an Eucrite. Exhibits the typical high
gloss and more of a melted texture due to the high CA content in Eucrites.
Very nice.
Greg S.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:40:33 -0700
From: drtan...@yahoo.com
To:
Hello Listers
I have a good question about the average size of a Strewn Fields. A good
example would be the Ash Creek fall in 2009. Whats the size of that Strewn
Field and the collected amount of weight so far from that fall? Why I ask is
because there could be a pattern with size of
Another with lack of experience? Prove me wrong! Dirk Ross.
I will eat another shoe!
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
To: drtan...@yahoo.com,
Phew, just when I was about to send the post below to the List, another post
arrived here, and ...c'mon folks, let's be courteous. We've been through such
things many times before, I've been through such things in our German Forum
and I can tell you, it will only lead to other direct or indirect
Hello All,
I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last
night's fireball in Florida. Here are the coordinates from where this person
witnessed it near Sebring, FL:
27°23'48.91N
81°24'4.84W
This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south of
I think, this photo of eucrite is only an EXAMPLE send by Mr Spurny and its
not from this fall. For me its only ilustration for article, and yes it
looks like fresh eucrite. But meteorites found in Slovakia/Hungary is H5
chondrite. It looks like OC than achondrite here
Another with lack of experience? Prove me wrong! Dirk Ross.
I will eat another shoe!
what You mean ?
--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Eucrite? - Eastern Slovakia
To:
Dirk,
Please do not make the mistake of challenging me publicly and
questioning my experience and knowledge... That's exactly what you're
doing and everyone reading this thread knows it. You have now forwarded
a private email that I sent to you to the list. You seem to have a
problem with me
Bernd, List,
Thanks for the words of wisdom.
These are the stones I was inquiring about:
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/images/slovakia-meteorite.jpg
NOT These: http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/vesmir/_zprava/634290
Regards,
Eric
On 3/31/2010 2:01 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
Phew, just
Hi Greg:
Thanks for this information. From what I can tell Route 17 does not always
go true north, so is it possible that north is a little more toward the
west?
Maybe radar saw it.
Thanks again.
Larry
Hello All,
I interviewed someone today in Florida (in person) who witnessed last
Hi List, Marcin is correct,
After looking at the fine print I see that I made a mistake about the
photo. The photo used for the article was an (illustrative photo) only
and not the actual stones from this fall. I still stand behind my ID
that the ones in the original photo I was asking about
This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south
of
Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that it fell
around 9:30 pm straight down (towards north), but slightly to the right
(east). They saw the fireball moving and then light up before
Hi Shawn,
Years ago, I remember reading that the median number of stones produced in
a witnessed fall is 5. (The average is certainly much more than this since
some falls have produced thousands of meteorites, and there have only been
about 1100 falls.)
The size (i.e. length) of any strewn field
George, I received a report in stating that it was about 5 seconds in
duration.
Regards,
Eric
On 3/31/2010 2:29 PM, geo...@aol.com wrote:
This lady and her husband were driving north on County Road 17 just south
of
Sebring. She confirmed, along with her husband on the phone, that
The article states:
The Czech Geological Survey preliminary examination of the H5 type
chondrite...
http://www.origo.hu/tudomany/vilagur/20100331-megvan-a-meteorit-a-magyarorszagrol-latott-tuzgomb-lehullott-darabjait-megtalaltak.html
Mike Bandli
- Original Message -
From
Hey GeoZay,
About how bright and how many seconds did this event last and about how
long of a trail?
I asked if the sky lit up and she said, Not really, but before it
disappeared [below the horizon], it became brighter. I asked if she saw it
break into several pieces and she said, No.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the link. I had not read that one yet.
Regards,
Eric
On 3/31/2010 2:40 PM, Mike Bandli wrote:
The article states:
The Czech Geological Survey preliminary examination of the H5 type
chondrite...
http://www.origo.hu/tudomany/vilagur/20100331-megvan-a-meteorit
Hi Larry,
The section of Route 17 she was on was about 4 or 5 miles south of Hwy 98.
Route 17 does wind around a bit at the location of sighting, and so does Hwy
98. She said they were heading north at that time so at least their
sighting, along with your friend's, should suggest material
Hi Gracie,
By what the two witnesses so far have reported, I would give it an excellent
chance of having produced meteorites, but finding them is a whole different
story unless one hit something and was found!
Best regards,
Greg
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Hi Greg,
I agree with your interpretation -- since fragmentation was witnessed
in Gainesville, and not in Sebring, all things being equal I would
place the fall closer to Gainesville. (An exception might be if the
Gainesville observer could see closer to the geometric horizon than
could the
Hi Greg,
I have one report, and another I found online. I sent you an email.
Florida is my old stomping grounds! I'm from Jacksonville, and spent a
lot of time in Gainesville, Lake City, Middleburg area, so if you need
someone with a good familiarity with the area let me know...
Regards,
Exciting!
I'm here as a resource if you need anything at all. My schedule is
flexible allowing me free time during business hours should you need
someone to head somewhere and do something. Not sure what that might
be--visit a local news or police station? Interview witnesses?
I'll mass email
By what the two witnesses so far have reported, I would give it an
excellent
chance of having produced meteorites, but finding them is a whole
different
story unless one hit something and was found!
I guess there were no sonics booms reported?
geozay
Hi All,
Following up, as expected there is nothing notable in the real-time
radar data from Melbourne, Jacksonville or Tampa. But perhaps
something will show up in the multi-elevation data tomorrow... --Rob
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Hi Eric,
The photo you reference appears to be Bunburra Rockhole (indeed a eucrite)
recovered by Pavel Spurny et. al from the Desert Fireball Network in Australia.
It probable that this photo was provided to the media by Dr. Spurny last year,
and is now simply a meteorite file photo for this
Just as a side note. Like I said in my last email. I'm from that area.
If it landed SE of Gainesville you're looking at a possible fall in
Ocala area, that HUGE area is mostly National forest! Not only that it's
super thick with palmetto and pine forests, lakes, and swamps. Good luck
out
Hello Linton,
Not at all - but it wasn't really an issue. We have some friends up
in Canada and the thought was to have the stones sent to them, apply
for a permit, and wait it out.
But note that they're listed on ebay Canada, not visible to any other
ebay sites. That makes it seem to me as
Hi Rob and List,
Here is another witness account below from Eric Wichman. I input the data
into another map, including a RED line which may represent a corrected line
of sight for the Sebring witness. If the Gainesville witness was slightly
off direction, or was viewing to the SE and not due
Jason,
Oh, I see.
It may have been listed in Canada, but it's certainly visible here.
Is that due to the worldwide shipping option?
Regardless, I've inquired into the export permits,
but have yet to receive a response.
Linton
- Original Message -
From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com
Greg and Larry,
I'm actually in Gainesville, though I missed the sighting last night. No
rains are expected soon . . Adam, do you think there might actually be
stones on the ground?
Larry, about your question regarding keeping track of fireballs, I'd
recommend you or your friend create an
Hi All,
The high-quality real-time Doppler data is up now; I've finished
scanning
the Melbourne and Jacksonville data. I have one (very small) candidate
return so far. Will be checking the Tampa data next. If I get
concurrence
between 2 radars, then that might be enough of an enticement for
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Because of a power outage at the University of Arizona, their Web links
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Hello to everyone!
We have just added some amazing etched Gibeon, with end cuts and
slices available; as well as some smaller Muonionalusta part slices.
Here is the link to our What's New page where you can see them. The
Gibeon end cuts would go great in anyones collection; so if you are
Well, the seller says...
I was told that if they are rocks for study wasn/t nessary reply I/m not
sure I have no permits
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that is incorrect.
Anybody know for sure?
Linton
- Original Message -
From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net
To: Jason
Very incorrect.
All Buzzard Coulee as well as any other Canadian meteorite must be sent
with a permit. It takes some time but very little cost to get the
permit. The officials I dealt with were very friendly and helpful
making the experience pleasant if not lengthy.
The seller can
Not to give anyone a bad name or scare those who
are already bidding on some of them, but it seems kinda strange how
there is no mention of export permits.. I PMed them and according to them
she's selling them for research and as such they can get away with selling
BCs without a permit. It
Dear list Members,
Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did NWA
stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but has
done great for sceince, collectors and dealers, don't you have anything to say
to NWA ? can we have a special day for
Canadian meteorites need export permits, period.
Including temporary export for research.
Here is the Canadian Heritage site for all the info regarding this.
http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1268673230268/1268674596897
Roman Jirasek
www.meteoritelabels.com
- Original Message -
From: Melanie
Melanie,
You must have missed Tett's reply, under a slightly modified subject line...
After sharing this info with the seller, she's asking me where to get the
permits.
Linton
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Very incorrect.
All Buzzard Coulee as well as any other Canadian
any word as a gift to those great meteorites were found in NWA?
An NWA meteorite was my first meteorite. If it weren't for this diverse
group, I'd probably never been able to own one.
GeoZay
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NWA ROCKS.
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Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear list Members,
Lets talk a little bet about NWA sceintifacally and in marketing. what did
NWA stones offer to sceince? Do you appreciate NWA, it's obly 3 letters, but
has
It's a longshot, but I'll take some time tomorrow to compile a list of
local police departments in that area and ring them up. See if they've had
any reports of damage to property due to falling stones or if they have
further reported sightings.
Just letting the list know in case someone had
Hi listers,
I got reolies, one the guys suggested April 1st as a NWA DAY! i'm wondring
where is the IMCA? or even what is IMCA? Hi IMCA can you talk ?
I don't think i can think those who replied me? but sure, the NWAs they have
will do it! because we are not talking about persons here, we do
Too bad you didn't think of this last year as in 2009 LOL - it was ten years
ago when the first meteorites of the North West Africa designation series were
found. ;)
I LOVE my NWAs ,, many of them I wouldn't trade for anything! :D My first stony
mets are NWAs.
---
Melanie
IMCA:
Oh, so then what about all these other Canadian mets that I have seen (some of
them quite regularly) on ebay without export permits? Tagish Lake, Bruderheim,
Piece River, etc.. My little Tagish Lake fragment didn't come with one, and I
think ordered it from the US.
---
Melanie
IMCA:
Greetings Aziz and List!
The meteorites from NWA have been a boon to collectors and science
alike. Despite some of the misconceptions about provenance, their
importance cannot be overlooked. This is a special time to be a
meteorite collector and I feel fortunate to have NWA meteorites
Hi list,
this is what this guy wrote to me after I asked him/her for better photos
and the expert permit:
'HI .SO FAR MOST HAVE BEEN SOLD INTO CANADA...I WAS TOLD THAT IF THEY ARE
SAMPLE ROCKS FOR STUDY NO PERMIT WAS REQUIRED ..I/M NOT SURE ON THIS..
I/M NOT REALLY INTO THIS STUFF I/M
Melanie,
All the Tagish Lake specimens I sell and I have sold in the past (and they
are now in quite a few collections), come from Eric Twelker who does have an
export permit.
Bruderheim might have been exported from Canada before that law came in
effect. Tett or Roman might have that
Hello All
Just a quick note to inform those who pre-ordered Buzzard Coulee through me
and Mike Bandli that the stones are now US citizens and will be flying to a
mailbox near you via Priority Mail in the next 48 hours.
Copies of the export permit will be included.
Thanks for your business,
It's a longshot, but I'll take some time tomorrow to compile a list of
local police departments in that area and ring them up. See if they've had
any reports of damage to property due to falling stones or if they have
further reported sightings.
Be keen of reports to police and fire
http://www.stratfordpress.co.nz/local/news/meteorite-crashes-into-clock-tower/3911990/
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Dear Friends,
Below are some PDF files and an abstract about Ordovician
meteorite influx, fossil meteorites (paleometeorites), and
impact structures from Estonia.
Carl Alwmark, 2009, Traces in Earth's geological record of
the break-up of the L-chondrite parent body 470 Ma.
LithoLund theses No.
Hey Listers,
This is what I got from some of you;HAPPY NWA DAY!!!
CAN WE DO 04/04/10 AS A NWA DAY ?
Ma best
Saffron guy
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I meant 04/01/10
--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA DAY
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:46 PM
Hey Listers,
This is what I got
Hi Melanie:
No, selling or even lending them for research makes no difference. A
Canadian researcher sent some meteorites to U of Oregon for
classification and got Challenged by Canadian cultural properties for
doing it. No, it doesn't matter why you are exporting them, they can
smack you. Don't
Does anyone else think it's a little strange to double anything
intended to be serious up with April Fool's day?
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Abdelaziz Alhyane
abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote:
I meant 04/01/10
--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Abdelaziz Alhyane abdelaziz_alhy...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi folks,
An infrequent foray to the metlist...
match head sized piece of the Shergottite NWA 1068.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270556285704ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
merci!
dave harris
IMCA #0092
Sec.BIMS.
www.bimsociety.org
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