Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock

2012-10-25 Thread Robert Verish
Met with Petrus Jenniskens tonight in Novato at the at the original find site in order to re-examine the N01 stone (which had been returned to the finders). This was my first opportunity to examine this stone. I had my small microscope with me and I took some snap-shots down the eye-piece

Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock

2012-10-25 Thread Leoncio Cividanes Álvarez
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:45:11 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock It's also Spanish for No Go, literally. Also 'Novato'

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-10-25 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Canyon Diablo Contributed by: Bob Evans http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Brien Cook
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Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Come on guys, how could you not tell if this is a meteorite? I can tell from the photos it looks just like most Park Forest stones. Of course after buying and selling and finding thousands of different meteorites I guess a lot of practice comes into play. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Of course it is. Sadly the damage is done. I am in Germany and all I am seeing is news reports now calling it a meteor wrong. What a cluster#+~. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Brien Cook cont...@briencook.com wrote: http://cams.seti.org/

[meteorite-list] Novato, CA Meteorite photos and post

2012-10-25 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Novato, CA Meteorite photos and post http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/10/california-two-meteorites-found-from.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

Re: [meteorite-list] Intergalactic False Alarm: Novato Meteorite is Just a Rock

2012-10-25 Thread Moni Waiblinger
HI Michael and Muenchen! Have a fantastic time and greet every one there from the good old USA!  Yes, you can tell very easy from Bob's images that he just took yesterday evening. And yes several people did see the images from Peter J. (cams.seti.org) and Brien Cook's images and knew it

[meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he found it in 1998. I do not see contraction cracks or other features that I associate with recently found Holbrooks. It looks like an NWA to me. I know there

[meteorite-list] Cassini Spacecraft Sees Huge Burp At Saturn After Large Storm

2012-10-25 Thread Ron Baalke
Oct. 25, 2012 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Elizabeth Zubritsky/Nancy Neal-Jones Goddard Space Flight, Center, Greenbelt, Md. 301-614-5438/301-286-0039 elizabeth.a.zubrit...@nasa.gov/nancy.n.jo...@nasa.gov Jia-Rui C. Cook Jet Propulsion

[meteorite-list] MBIQ Meteor Raw Data 24/25OCT2012

2012-10-25 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, I am in the process of creating a new website that MAY aid in the detection of meteor events. Comments and suggestion are appreciated. Thank you. This Website may later become a private database for interested persons. IF anyone is willing to help with this automation please

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Am I to understand that one of NASA's best has problems identifying a meteorite? Is anyone else concerned by that? Michael in So. Cal. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Of course it is. Sadly the damage is done. I am in Germany and all I am seeing

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Gary Fujihara
Well Michael, I work at an astronomical research institute and I know that most astronomers here could not find and identify extended objects or stars in the night sky with their unaided eyes. Of course, they can differentiate their spectra and other data that they acquire through large

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread dorifry
Michael, A lot of times scientists used to working in labs with thin slices can't tell an ordinary chondrite from a hole in the ground. They often specialize in a narrow academic field and have no experience handling all different types of meteorites. It's hard to beat years of hands on

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Mike, Mike, and List, It is somewhat comical, but even the best of us can be fooled from time to time. There are some very convincing meteorwrongs in circulation, and we've had some recent high-profile falls that have increased the likelihood of fakes/scams, so an extra measure of caution is

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 24, 2012

2012-10-25 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES October 24, 2012 o Gullied Crater Walls in Terra Cimmeria http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_028651_1370 This is within the latitude zone on Mars where volatiles such as water and carbon-dioxide undergo seasonal activity such as

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Wooddell
ohh Mike that is so wrong at so many levels. Peter is a really good guy and probably really really good at what he does. I personally could not tell by the pictures... I for 1 have that problem. I bet BobV knew what it was seconds after he had it in hands lots of field experience. Peter

[meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue

2012-10-25 Thread Steve Arnold
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/space-buddha-statue-fake-fraud_n_2015587.html?ncid=webmail8 Of course it is a fake.  If it is a Nantan, it would have rusted away into a million flakes about 997 years ago it if it was really carved 1,000 years old.  Even if it wasn't a Nantan, I would

[meteorite-list] Who was First NOVATO 001

2012-10-25 Thread Paul Gessler
So does that mean Brien Cooks meteorite is the first identified/recognized find from this fall? Sounds like it is indeed. Seems to me that the ONLY reason the House hitter stone was reassessed was because Brien had the smarts to cut into his and prove it. Luckily the Webbers didn't throw the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue

2012-10-25 Thread dorifry
Steve, it's a Chinga. Phil Whitmer - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Marc Fries
There is a deep divide between meteorite hunters, hobbyists, etc and the scientists. It wasn't always that way - the Meteoritical Society was originally formed by a group of scientists, hobbyists, and in general a gaggle of folks with widely varying backgrounds who shared an interest in

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Mendy...looks right to me. I sent you something off list for comparison. Jim On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on Facebook that looks a bit weird to me. The seller, Jim Steele, states that he

Re: [meteorite-list] Lisa Webber's is a meteorite

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Rubin
Most meteorite petrographers have a lot of experience looking at meteorite whole rocks, not just thin sections. Over the years, I can usually tell a meteorite from a wrong, but when I am not sure, I make a thin section before making an announcement. What I am not so good at is guessing what

Re: [meteorite-list] Novato

2012-10-25 Thread drtanuki
Dear Cal G, Any meteorite hunter worth his salt would leave his metal detector behind and use his EYES. Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie! Best in your hunt. Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- On Fri, 10/26/12, C.G. petca...@gmail.com wrote: From: C.G. petca...@gmail.com Subject:

Re: [meteorite-list] Who was First NOVATO 001

2012-10-25 Thread Thunder Stone
I would say the house hitter would be 001, as it was 'found' first. -gregs -Original Message- From: Paul Gessler Sent: 25 Oct 2012 17:28:27 GMT To: meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] Who was First NOVATO 001 So does that mean Brien Cooks meteorite is the first

[meteorite-list] NASA-WPI 2013 Robot Prize Competition Registration Open

2012-10-25 Thread Ron Baalke
Oct. 25, 2012 Sonja Alexander Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1761 sonja.r.alexan...@nasa.gov Eileen Brangan-Mell Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, Mass. 508-831-6785 ebm...@wpi.edu RELEASE: 12-377 NASA-WPI 2013 ROBOT PRIZE COMPETITION

[meteorite-list] Open Access Geology Textbook Online

2012-10-25 Thread Paul H.
For the avocational meteorite collector, there is a rather nice open access geology textbook. It is Earth's Dynamic Systems Web Edition 1.0 T http://www.earthds.info/ Someone obviously put a lot of time and effort into it and is a good introductory text for the interested layman. Best wishes,

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Michael Blood
I am pretty sure Steve Shoner has found more Holbrook than anyone on the list... Stevewhaddayathink? Of is a photo insufficient To form an opinion? Michael On 10/25/12 8:31 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: There is a large 53.3g Holbrook being offered for sale on

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread jason utas
Hello All, Texture's completely off. Newly found Holbrooks can be weathered. but always show a discrete layer of fusion crust that has not been mechanically altered much since 1912. Surface rust, yes. Places where it has chipped off, yes. Contraction cracks...usually. But, little abrasion --

Re: [meteorite-list] Novato

2012-10-25 Thread Danny Mills
The meteorite hunter worth his salt would use ALL his tools he has available to him because some of us dont have the best EYES as we get older. Im sure I can get an agreement on that On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Danny Mills dannysp...@gmail.com wrote: The meteorite hunter worth his

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Jason! So what do you think about this one? http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa325/desertsunburn/IMG_3252.jpg which is a Holbrook found on the 99th Anniversary of the fall. Jim On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Texture's completely

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Buddha Statue

2012-10-25 Thread Steve Arnold
List, So, I was visiting Robert Beauford today at this store here in wonderful Eureka Springs, where it is a bit rainy, but yet still a beautiful fall day, shopper abounding, and the leaves are turning on the hillsides around our quaint village. Robert read me the not quite completed draft

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread jason utas
Hello Jim, I see finely textured crust with surface rust. Looks like a Holbrook. I think the lighting of the photo on facebook is throwing you off. It's quite different. Regards, Jason On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jason! So what do you think

[meteorite-list] Curiosity Update: Assessing Drop-Off to Mars Rover's Observation Tray

2012-10-25 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2012-336 Assessing Drop-Off to Mars Rover's Observation Tray Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 25, 2012 NASA's Mars rover Curiosity used its Mast Camera (Mastcam) during the mission's 78th sol (Oct. 24, 2012) to view soil material on the rover's

[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: Oct 18-23, 2012

2012-10-25 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Survey Drives Of Local Area - sols 3105-3110, Oct. 18, 2012-Oct. 23, 2012: Opportunity is continuing a local area survey around the location called Matijevic Hill (named in honor of Jake Matijevic) at the

Re: [meteorite-list] Novato Meteorite Stick

2012-10-25 Thread John higgins
Your eyes are always the best tool in the shed when meteorite hunting, but when you go to war, you need an arsenal. The next best thing to having 20/20 vision is the Bazooka of all meteorite hunting tools the Meteorite Stick! Leave your metal detectors home! Metal detectors are useless in

[meteorite-list] Ohio Made Riker Mounts?

2012-10-25 Thread Mike Groetz
List- Quite some time ago somebody made a comment that their company made good quality riker mount boxes near Columbus, Ohio where I live. I cannot find their posting in the older list archives. Would somebody know who that company is? Possibly I could visit them and save shipping charges.

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Mark Bowling
I agree with Jason, it doesn't look quite right.   It's always hard to tell from photos, but if it looked this way in person, I would not have guessed Holbook.  If someone cleans/shines them up, it can really change the look of them.   I've found a lot Holbrook and seen a lot taken in the field,

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Stuart McDaniel
The guy that has it for sale just posted that he actually was the one to find it. * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.weebly.com

[meteorite-list] NWA 7319 Melt Breccia Specimens - AD

2012-10-25 Thread Greg Hupé
Dear List Members, I would like to announce and offer a new Melt Breccia that has just become Official in the Meteoritical Bulletin this week. NWA 7319 is a stunning L5 Melt Breccia with a shock stage of 6 and weathering grade of 1/2. The Total Known Weight is 6414 grams in a single very

[meteorite-list] Meteor detected by MBIQ over Ontario Canada confirmed

2012-10-25 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Meteor detected by MBIQ over Ontario Canada; now has been confirmed. http://mbiq.blogspot.jp/2012/10/mbiq-detects-ontario-canada-meteor.html Bookmark this site if you wish advanced information about meteor detection using MBIQ *meteor Bot Internet Query bot artificial intelligence AI.

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Mark Bowling
I guess we stand corrected... - Original Message - From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on

Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook for sale on Facebook

2012-10-25 Thread Mark Bowling
And I forgot to correct myself about the large cool piece in Jim's link.  It is the big one Richard Garcia found on the 99th hunt.  I got to hold it the last couple years - an amazing piece indeed!  Congratulations again Richard and happy hunting! Mark   - Original Message - From: