Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-04 Thread Matthias Bärmann
OMG. My minitiger, substantially interested in the list and utmost engaged along-reader, is in a catatonic state of shock since opening your link, Martin. I'll be so free to send you the bill of the catensic psychiatrist. Btw. who else cares today about the old amnalogue homepussiorgan? It's

Re: [meteorite-list] Introducing The Sterley Pallasite

2013-01-04 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, A quick clarification: I meant to say that Sterley is 1 of 38 approved meteorites classified as Pallasite, PMG. A pallasite belonging to the main chemical group. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Good Morning, It's my great pleasure to

[meteorite-list] Q. David Bowers' manuscript

2013-01-04 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi, The announcement of the Sterley pallasite has started me thinking about pallasites. One of my pallasite quests is to read Q. David Bowers' manuscript on pallasites. Does anyone have a copy, know where a copy is or even seen a copy of it? I have written to Mr. Bowers in regards to it. I

Re: [meteorite-list] Everett Gibson for Met Soc Leonard Medal

2013-01-04 Thread Jim Wooddell
HA!!! Yeah Larrymeasley.ahaha. I bet you still have a smile on your face! ;) Jim On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ruben, If Dr. Everette's Holbrook is 3.5 Kilo's, he's got me beat! Mine was a measley 1.45 Kg. Sincerely, Larry Atkins

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: all-sky camera

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Peterson
That would not be a good choice for meteor analysis, although it looks good for other types of sky monitoring. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 1/3/2013 6:50 PM, Stuart McDaniel wrote: Here is the other I was trying to

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry

2013-01-04 Thread Count Deiro
Looks like the Seller may be our boy. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com Sent: Jan 3, 2013 3:42 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry Hi, Here is a link to an Ebay auction:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Michael Farmer
What is an unobserved fall? Every meteorite fell at some point. I have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2013, at 12:00 AM, valpar...@aol.com wrote: Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Sterley Contributed by: Ruben Garcia and

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread valparint
An unobserved fall is, well, a fall that was not observed, in contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of the Meteoritical Bulletin Database is Observed fall: no. The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but that the fall was not observed. In

[meteorite-list] UNM studies one of a kind Martian meteorite

2013-01-04 Thread Paul H.
UNM studies one of a kind meteorite Mars Meteorite found in Morroco KRQE news, Albuquerque, January 4, 2012 http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/education/unm-studied-meteorite-one-of-a-kind Meteorite has highest water content of any from Mars, scientists say By Elizabeth Landau, CNN news

[meteorite-list] Picture This: Vesta's Dark Materials in Dawn's View

2013-01-04 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-001 Picture This: Vesta's Dark Materials in Dawn's View Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 03, 2013 A new study of images from NASA's Dawn mission examines remarkable, dark-as-coal material that speckles the surface of the giant asteroid

[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: December 19-26, 2012

2013-01-04 Thread Ron Baalke
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: sols 3166-3173, Dec. 19, 2012-Dec. 26, 2012: Working Through The Holidays Opportunity is on the inboard edge of Cape York on the rim of Endeavour Crater, positioned at a location called Copper Cliff. Over the long holiday period, the rover has been stationary and

[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: Dec 27, 2012 - Jan 3, 2013

2013-01-04 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Dust Cleaning At 'Vermillion' Targets - sols 3174-3180, Dec. 27, 2012-Jan. 3, 2013: Opportunity is on the inboard edge of Cape York on the rim of Endeavour crater. The rover has been conducting in-situ

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: December 31, 2012 - January 4, 2013

2013-01-04 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES December 31, 2012 - January 4, 2013 o Lava Channels (31 December 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6060 o Olympus Mons Escarpment (01 January 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6061 o Streamlined Islands (02 January 2013) http://themis.asu.edu/node/6062 o Nili

[meteorite-list] Black Beauty Article

2013-01-04 Thread Count Deiro
Happy New Year All, Decent article and photography on the oldest Martian meteorite. http://mashable.com/2013/01/03/black-beauty-mars-meteorite-morocco/ Reagrds, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Michael Farmer
That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through a house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not fall at that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the house, yet it was not seen to fall. An old rock found in a field does not suggest

[meteorite-list] Images of Everett Gibson Found Holbrook Fragments

2013-01-04 Thread Adam Hupe
I agree that Everett Gibson deserves the Leonard Medal. I was very fortunate to get my hands on a very special lot of Holbrook pieces personally found by Everett Gibson in 1968. Wow, a world renown scientist and an OMH Original Meteorite Hunter. These pieces have the infamous history of being

[meteorite-list] Curiosity Rover Explores 'Yellowknife Bay'

2013-01-04 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-003 Curiosity Rover Explores 'Yellowknife Bay' Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 04, 2013 Mars Science Laboratory Mission Status Report PASADENA, Calif. - After imaging during the holidays, NASA's Mars rover Curiosity resumed driving Jan. 3

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread hall
An unobserved fall is two words to describe the one word that has been used for a century, Find. The one word Find is good enough for the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger, and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise. Regards, Fred Hall That would make

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Anne Black
Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not. So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what happened to all

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Logic versus accepted terminology versus practicality. I like the conciseness of Fall versus Find - It's easier to fit and write on a specimen card.  :-) An unobserved fall may never become a find.   Mendy Ouzillou From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Roman Jirasek
Maybe, but you can't put a date on an unobserved fall can you? You can definitely put a date on a find. Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com -- From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:27 PM To: h...@meteorhall.com;

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread hall
Right, Anne. That is why they are referred to as a Fall or a Find. Concise! Cheers, Fred Hall Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hupé
What if you are walking through the desert while looking to your left at something and your right foot hits a rock and you stumble, then gather yourself up and then see what caused your 'fall' Would that be an unobserved trip over a fall, or you didn't observe what you stubbed your toe on

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Mike Bandli
If a meteorite falls from the sky and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? ;^] -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest -

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Jodie Reynolds
How about we compress it further and assign 0 for unobserved fall and 1 for observed fall? We could then use a flag and define them with a single bit, a logic state of false for unobserved and true for observed? Or a null state for unobserved and true for observed? Substantially more

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread hall
The last time I wasted half a dozen bytes was on a stale donut at a restaurant in Hanksville, Utah. Cheers, Fred Hall PS: Hanksville is a great place to hunt for rocks and the Mars Society station is just a few miles away. How about we compress it further and assign 0 for unobserved fall and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread Jim Wooddell
I dont often agree with Micheal Farmer, but when I do, I am drinking! Stay thirsty my friends! Jim Wooddell - Mobile Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) --

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread Mike Miller
People can argue about many things my question is why On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) --

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread hall
That would be a Right foot unobserved fall into the cactus patch. What would be the expletive for that Fall? Double Cheers, Fred Hall What if you are walking through the desert while looking to your left at something and your right foot hits a rock and you stumble, then gather yourself up and

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Michael Farmer
I find this new attempt to change terminology disturbing. I have hundreds of old catalogs from the top museums and dealers from more than 200 years ago till today, all of them list falls and finds. None of them discuss unobserved falls as an acceptable alternative. Are we really ready to just

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread hall
Scientists argue all the time. Discussion is what drives every science. Words are important. I'm impotent...wait, that's from an old joke. See, even spelling is important! Good Night, Fred People can argue about many things my question is why On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:54 PM,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Bob King
Hi all, Unobserved fall reminds me of pre-owned car, a time-wasting, dress-up term for used car. Anything that causes confusion in terminology should be avoided. Unobserved makes you stop for a second and wonder ... huh? Of course we get the difference, but find vs. fall is crystal clear. And

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread John Cabassi
G'Day All what an interesting discussion, at least we can fill in between falls or was that finds? Jim, you crack me up and Mike you've got a good point there. I would like to go back to aerolite. So let's discuss that one. :-) Cheers John __ Visit the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Linton Rohr
Anne, and listoids, The IMPACTIKA Catalog of Meteorites has an asterisk beside some meteorite names, designating falls. NAME (*=Fall) Aren't they all falls now? ;^) I'm fairly certain you're *not* going to amend it to differentiate between Observed and Unobserved ones. Cheers, Linton

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hupé
Yes, of course all meteorites fell on Earth therefore they are 'falls'! When many people are infected with this extended 'fall' flu, the best medicine for a cure can only be administered by humor... Dr. Greg is in the house! ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Linton Rohr
Bingo! I observed a large quantity of specimen ID cards, before printing my own. Fall vs. Find seemed to be well established, generally accepted, and just plain traditional. I'm an old-school kind of guy. ;^) If it ain't broke... Linton - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Anne Black
Yeah, I started that a while back, but if you take a good look at my site you will notice that I forget that asterisk at least half of the time. So to be thoroughly logical I think I will remove all those asterisks. Whenever I get around to it. And it won't happen today, I have lots to prepare

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Martin Altmann
they are not native to Earth. Ouch, Anne, cat-piano... Does that mean a paradigm shift in the IMCA rules? Really no offense intended, though at least the German collectors are waiting since last August for a definite clarification how to apply the CoE in that respect. Would be nice...

Re: [meteorite-list] Everett Gibson for Met Soc Leonard Medal

2013-01-04 Thread Frank Cressy
Hi all, Dr. Gibson's stone weighed 1.5 kg.  That what his article in Meteoritics says. (v. 5, no. 1, 1970, Discovery of another Meteorite Specimen from the 1912 Holbrook, Arizona Fall Site). Still beat you Larry, but not by much ;-) Frank - Original Message From: Larry Atkins

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

2013-01-04 Thread almitt2
Greetings, I thought falls without witnesses were allege falls?? --AL Mitterling Quoting h...@meteorhall.com: Scientists argue all the time. Discussion is what drives every science. Words are important. I'm impotent...wait, that's from an old joke. See, even spelling is important! Good

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 5980 Contributed by: José Antonio Sánchez http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list