[meteorite-list] nearly nailed...
Listoids I have admired MB's hammer stone sale page and whilst I have the odd few hammers I am also interested in the nearly nailed or missed by that much meteorites that whilst not a hammer in the true sense are certainly a collectable in their own right Examples are ucera and talampaya etc etc - whilst I can go thru the blue book and identify some - I am hoping that listees might post with the names and stories of the nearly nailed which would I am certain make a far more interesting read to the listoids rather than the squabbling of late... Cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What to do with meteorite dust
In a message dated 10/18/2006 9:14:37 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dave - So what you're telling Anne is that those little plasic bullion trays are going to yellow? That's sad, as the plastic would be safer than glass for the children. It would also be easier to permanently stick the labels on them. Oh well - Wouldn't glass slide mounts be better for Anne's super thin sections? It would seem to me that for serious study thin sections might be more useful than larger thicker slices - what is good, about half a chrondule thickness? How do you get them so thin? good hunting, Ed -- Hello again, Dave is talking about plastic cubes, probably lucite, made 25-30 years ago. These holders are made of a hard acrylic. My primary concern is to protect the thin-sections during shipping, so glass-holders would not work. Those thin-sections are of the highest quality, and mostly of rare classifications, so I want them safe and secure. But of course these holders can be use for storage so you keep the label with the thin-section. And, Ed, if you want to see what those thin-sections can show you, I'll be glad to send you pictures. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Poll Results
Hello Everyone, I took a poll a few days again regarding the latest discussion between dealers. I asked individuals to email me in private, letting me know their feelings on such exchanges. I said that I would aggregate the data and not post private email. Well, I received exactly eight private responses. Four were for against such exchanges and four were against such exchanges. What can we conclude from this? Nothing. The sample size is much too small to make a meaningful conclusion. I had thought of posting a direct quote from one person since I found it opinion so interesting (I have his permission), but I decided against it since I did not receive a similar but opposing post espousing the opposite point-of-view and in the interest of fairness it would not have been appropriate. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Poll Results
Hi Walter, Perfect timing. The few have spoken and we have listened. I was going to post my results later today but may as well do now also. Of the replies I received, the majority want to know what is going on and appreciate and learn by the exchanges, as uneasy and often times negative as they are. The most prominent statement from each person was the fact they would like to have classified material WITH a name or number (NWA, DAG, DHOFAR, etc.) offered instead of possibly paired to... and the like. If the material has been properly classified and is officially paired to whatever by a lab, then that is what they strongly want by their emails to me. The other prominent statement was that they do not like the obvious coat-tailing, using of other's classified names/numbers, etc. The terms of Lazy and Reckless were two common words used in association to these offenders they mention in their emails. I couldn't agree more. The main and most important phrase was to ...let the scientists do the pairing and not these lazy freeloaders I had one person suggest I be more clear in my emails during these exchanges and another suggest I tone it down a notch. I appreciate their honesty and forwardness that I asked for. In conducting the poll as did you Walter, I feel I have learned from it and will work harder on self improvement which I normally do anyway. It is good to have constructive criticism when necessary, and I welcome it at any time (in private is usually best at first if needed). Thank You all who replied and may we all learn and grow as a community by these exchanges. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:25 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Poll Results Hello Everyone, I took a poll a few days again regarding the latest discussion between dealers. I asked individuals to email me in private, letting me know their feelings on such exchanges. I said that I would aggregate the data and not post private email. Well, I received exactly eight private responses. Four were for against such exchanges and four were against such exchanges. What can we conclude from this? Nothing. The sample size is much too small to make a meaningful conclusion. I had thought of posting a direct quote from one person since I found it opinion so interesting (I have his permission), but I decided against it since I did not receive a similar but opposing post espousing the opposite point-of-view and in the interest of fairness it would not have been appropriate. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions Ending - nice stuff (meteorites)
Hi All.. I have a few auctions ending tonight under user name catchafallingstar.com http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com Of special note is this radically oriented Sikhote-alin, nicknamed THE ACORN for obvious reasons when you see the photos. Sorry, Not Cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200036214104 Another Oriented Sikhote-alin with a great roll over rim started at 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035551965 LUNAR and MARS all with very favorable surface to weight ratio: NWA 482: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035580960 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035563504 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035565595 (with fusion crust) DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200031151918 More on my ME page. Scroll down: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Hi Pierre, Thanks for the pictures. Must have been a great trip. Sonny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 6:09 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com _ __ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions Ending - nice stuff (meteorites)
Hi Jim List You have to check out the Acorn that Jim has for sale even if you don't want to buy it. It is one of the most unusual extreme oriented meteorites I have ever seen. Simply amazing. Of special note is this radically oriented Sikhote-alin, nicknamed THE ACORN for obvious reasons when you see the photos. Sorry, Not Cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200036214104 Thanks Jim for pointing that one out. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All.. I have a few auctions ending tonight under user name catchafallingstar.com http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.c om Of special note is this radically oriented Sikhote-alin, nicknamed THE ACORN for obvious reasons when you see the photos. Sorry, Not Cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200036214104 Another Oriented Sikhote-alin with a great roll over rim started at 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035551965 LUNAR and MARS all with very favorable surface to weight ratio: NWA 482: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035580960 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035563504 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035565595 (with fusion crust) DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200031151918 More on my ME page. Scroll down: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.c om Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions Ending - nice stuff (meteorites)
Jim and List, All too often we see lots of hyperbole used in the sale of meteorites and words like fantastic, incredible, and magnificent get abused. This is NOT the case with your Acorn Sikhote. This little jewel is fantastic and is one of, if not the best example or orientation I've ever seen. Wow! BTW...your pictures are fantastic too! Best, John Gwilliam At 03:45 AM 10/19/2006, Jim Strope wrote: Hi All.. I have a few auctions ending tonight under user name catchafallingstar.com http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com Of special note is this radically oriented Sikhote-alin, nicknamed THE ACORN for obvious reasons when you see the photos. Sorry, Not Cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200036214104 Another Oriented Sikhote-alin with a great roll over rim started at 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035551965 LUNAR and MARS all with very favorable surface to weight ratio: NWA 482: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035580960 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035563504 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200035565595 (with fusion crust) DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200031151918 More on my ME page. Scroll down: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Hello Pierre-Marie and good morning list members, did you check for meteorites or did you simply think it was to difficult to look for them? Have meteorites been found there? Thanks for sharing the pictures. I liked the contrast of the people's clothing and the blues. Nice vacation to share with us! With best regards, Moni From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Poll Results
Dear Greg, Walter, Stan, and other wanta-be paired too's; I didn't give my full opinion...as it wasn't something I felt good about but I had this other idea keep coming up. Why doesn't this issue include an IMCA opinion, as it is part of the IMCA's mission to help keep the authenticity element there, wouldn't the shirt tailing be some form of authenticity .paired like, paired to, thought to be paired like-to, wanta-be paired to, could eventually be paired to; wouldn't it make some sense to get an IMCA opinion here? If at least 1/2 the members involved, the IMCA could offer opinion on the good 1/2. OOPS, the fully authenticated half. Shirt tail calls should go for a yard sale price just like a car without a title, or a horse with out a brand inspection. I feel it degrades the dealer who tries to shirt tail just as it degrades the whole collecting world when we start seeing too much public squabbling and thus back to a qualified referee organizationIMCA. If Stan is an IMCA member, it should have been taken there for discussion and to see if a ruling was appropriate. I realize IMCA is not a meteorite police but, keeping the hobby and the business in a clean-good public standing is important to us all. Dave Freeman Greg Hupe wrote: Hi Walter, Perfect timing. The few have spoken and we have listened. I was going to post my results later today but may as well do now also. Of the replies I received, the majority want to know what is going on and appreciate and learn by the exchanges, as uneasy and often times negative as they are. The most prominent statement from each person was the fact they would like to have classified material WITH a name or number (NWA, DAG, DHOFAR, etc.) offered instead of possibly paired to... and the like. If the material has been properly classified and is officially paired to whatever by a lab, then that is what they strongly want by their emails to me. The other prominent statement was that they do not like the obvious coat-tailing, using of other's classified names/numbers, etc. The terms of Lazy and Reckless were two common words used in association to these offenders they mention in their emails. I couldn't agree more. The main and most important phrase was to ...let the scientists do the pairing and not these lazy freeloaders I had one person suggest I be more clear in my emails during these exchanges and another suggest I tone it down a notch. I appreciate their honesty and forwardness that I asked for. In conducting the poll as did you Walter, I feel I have learned from it and will work harder on self improvement which I normally do anyway. It is good to have constructive criticism when necessary, and I welcome it at any time (in private is usually best at first if needed). Thank You all who replied and may we all learn and grow as a community by these exchanges. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:25 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Poll Results Hello Everyone, I took a poll a few days again regarding the latest discussion between dealers. I asked individuals to email me in private, letting me know their feelings on such exchanges. I said that I would aggregate the data and not post private email. Well, I received exactly eight private responses. Four were for against such exchanges and four were against such exchanges. What can we conclude from this? Nothing. The sample size is much too small to make a meaningful conclusion. I had thought of posting a direct quote from one person since I found it opinion so interesting (I have his permission), but I decided against it since I did not receive a similar but opposing post espousing the opposite point-of-view and in the interest of fairness it would not have been appropriate. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE : RE: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Hello Moni, I searched for one day meteorites on the flatlands near the Red Sea. Here's a picture of the area in Yemen which I thought was interesting to hunt : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/desert.jpg It's located west of Al Mukha. Sadly, I didn't find any meteorite. A few (3 I think) were found in Yemen during the soviet occupation. I think meteorite hunters could go to Yemen and search quite easily, with the help of a local guide. Eastern part of the country, between Aden and Oman should be the best place. Best regards, Pierre-Marie --- Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello Pierre-Marie and good morning list members, did you check for meteorites or did you simply think it was to difficult to look for them? Have meteorites been found there? Thanks for sharing the pictures. I liked the contrast of the people's clothing and the blues. Nice vacation to share with us! With best regards, Moni From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Demandez à ceux qui savent sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Great pictures. I would have enjoyed descriptions too. Best, John At 06:09 AM 10/19/2006, Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote: Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tuscon show dates
Hello List, I need to book reservations for Tucson. Can anyone provide us with the show dates for the meteorite related activities. Thanks Bob C. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Manua Kea Telescopes Knocked Around
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061019/NEWS01/610190344/1001/NEWS Mauna Kea telescopes knocked around By Audrey McAvoy Associated Press October 19, 2006 The massive jolt that rocked Hawai'i damaged some of the world's most advanced equipment for gazing into outer space. Scientists at many of the 13 telescopes atop Mauna Kea on the Big Island are still examining their implements to gauge the extent of the problems. Many have suspended their celestial observations to inspect equipment for flaws. Christian Veillet, executive director of the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope, said an encoder - a device enabling astronomers to keep track of what part of the sky they are looking at - had a chunk taken out of it when Sunday's magnitude 6.7 earthquake lifted his telescope up and down. That device has been smashed and crushed by the telescope at the time of the main shake, Veillet said. It looks like you took some butter out of it with your knife, and it's really solid steel we are talking about. Veillet said his crew is rebuilding an encoder assembly with spare parts. At the earliest, Veillet said, his telescope could be operational again at the end of the week. The Canada-France-Hawaii telescope's mirror and all of its optics emerged unscathed. Its digital camera - the biggest in the world - is also fine, he said. Still, his team hasn't finished checking for damage and it's too early to say to what extent the telescope was affected by the quake, Veillet said. Mauna Kea's ideal conditions for observing space have attracted some of the most technologically advanced telescopes on the planet to its slopes. The mountain's 13,796-foot elevation gives the telescopes a clearer picture by lifting them above a great deal of weather. Mauna Kea's location in the middle of the Pacific Ocean also offers clear air because there are no nearby extensive mountain ranges to disrupt the atmosphere. Two of the more famous telescopes on the peak, at the W.M. Keck Observatory, also took hits in the jolt, the most powerful to strike Hawai'i in 20 years. The Keck telescopes' mirrors and optics are fine, but the radial pads and brakes that support the 300-ton structures on their mounts must be removed and replaced, said Laura Kinoshita, an observatory spokeswoman. She said inspection showed the telescopes came down on the radial pads and brakes with about 100,000 pounds of force during Sunday's temblor. Once these are replaced, the Keck's engineers will have to recalibrate both telescopes to account for the seismic shifts that moved the Keck I telescope more than 1/8 inch and the Keck II telescope more than 1 inch, Kinoshita said. That's because the observatory relies on software to tell instruments where in the sky the telescope is pointed, based on the telescope's previous location. In astronomy, even a movement by a few nanometers makes a significant impact on the accuracy of our systems, Kinoshita said. So we need to update our systems to factor in the new position of the telescope. Peter Michaud, a spokesman for the Gemini Observatory, said his facility's biggest problem was testing the equipment to make sure the telescope survived the quakes OK. Some have compared the task to setting up a new telescope. So far, though, the Gemini Northern Telescope appeared to have no problems, he said. The NASA Infrared Telescope Facility also appears to be in good shape. Allen Tokunaga, its director, said his astronomers were able to operate their telescope normally when they tried it Tuesday. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Was There Water on Mars Long Enough For The Origination of Life?
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2006itemno=568 Was there water on Mars long enough for the origination of life? By Susan Trulove Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University October 19, 2006 BLACKSBURG, VA. -- Based on the lovely green rock, olivine, also known as the gemstone, peridot, a Virginia Tech graduate student has created a mineral lifetime diagram that provides the a clue to when and for how long there might have been water on Mars. Amanda Albright Olsen of Altoona, Pa., a doctoral student in geosciences at Virginia Tech, will present the research at the Geological Society of America national meeting in Philadelphia on Oct. 22-25. Virginia Tech Geosciences Professor Donald Rimstidt of Christiansburg, Va., is co-author. Olivine, a silicate mineral rich in magnesium and iron, is found on earth in volcanic rock (basalts). It has also been spotted on Mars - most recently and in significant amounts by NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft (Geology, June 2005). Because life requires liquid water and because olivine dissolves in water, Olsen set out to establish how long it takes olivine to dissolve. The answer could help scientists determine if there was liquid water on Mars long enough for life to develop. Our goal is to produce a robust analysis of olivine dissolution that can be used to predict olivine grain lifetimes, Olsen said. She used published information and laboratory studies to construct a baseline model, and introduced controlling factors, such as pH and temperature. Since environmental factors have often resulted in slower dissolution rates in the field than in the lab, she compared her results with an analysis of olivine in natural environments by Virginia Tech Geoscience Professor Michal Kowalewski and Rimstidt (2003), who determined average mineral grain lifetimes based on radiometric dates. Olsen and Rimstidt's conclusion is that the Martian olivine could take between slightly less than a million years to as long as many millions of years to dissolve in water. She cautions that pH is a highly controlling factor and a more precise estimate awaits information on the chemical conditions on the Mars surface. Amanda's research will be a tool to help others pin it down, Rimstidt said. Regardless of what physiochemical conditions that we postulate for early Martian history, we can now propose a scenario and ask, 'Is it reasonable to expect that life could have originated in this time frame?' Olsen said. Olsen will present the paper, Using mineral lifetime diagrams: Predicting olivine grain lifetimes on Earth and Mars, at 10:30 a.m. Wednesday, Oct. 25, in Pennsylvania Convention Center room 111 AB. Contact for more information Amanda Olsen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 540-231-1992 http://www.geos.vt.edu/people/amalbrig/ Dr. J. Donald Rimstidt, Professor of Geochemistry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 540-231-6589 http://www.geos.vt.edu/people/jdr02/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] What to do with meteorite dust
Hi List If we are at meteorite dust topic, I want present my Kitchen Chief's Best Space Dinner http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/met_mud.jpg and also the most rare new type of meteorite, that is ofcourse A.A. (Achondritic Amphoterite) One of a kind, unique 113g Benguerir http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_benguerir/008.htm :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos
Hi again. From 10 days I work on my new specimen of Morasko little 53kg. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/005.htm Here are some photos from cleaning process and cool pictures AFTER and BEFORE i clean it. First 4 photos will change automaticaly if You hold mouse cursor on them. New photo will load. When You move cursor out of image, first photo will load. So You can compare how specimen changed after I cleaned it. Specimen was cut tooday in half, and next week endpiece will be cut again into large full slices. Look at this 3 large troilite inclusions (one with graphite). I also made a nice 3D Image (360*) of my 4993g Morasko Endpiece. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko4993/index.htm 40 photos must be loaded (894kb total). You can rotate specimen by clicking on image and moving mouse left and right. Here is also 360* photo of my complete specimen of Morasko 5370g http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko5370/index.htm I hope You like them :) CU all in Munich -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: RE: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Yep, and what for a meteorite was among those. Kaidun! I guess, if smth like the legendary Calcalong Creek would happen again, then it would be Kaidun in private hands! Wonderful pics! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Pelé Pierre-Marie Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2006 17:13 An: Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge Cc: MeteoriteList Betreff: RE : RE: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello Moni, I searched for one day meteorites on the flatlands near the Red Sea. Here's a picture of the area in Yemen which I thought was interesting to hunt : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/desert.jpg It's located west of Al Mukha. Sadly, I didn't find any meteorite. A few (3 I think) were found in Yemen during the soviet occupation. I think meteorite hunters could go to Yemen and search quite easily, with the help of a local guide. Eastern part of the country, between Aden and Oman should be the best place. Best regards, Pierre-Marie --- Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hello Pierre-Marie and good morning list members, did you check for meteorites or did you simply think it was to difficult to look for them? Have meteorites been found there? Thanks for sharing the pictures. I liked the contrast of the people's clothing and the blues. Nice vacation to share with us! With best regards, Moni From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:09:53 +0200 (CEST) Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spa ces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Demandez à ceux qui savent sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos
Hmm, I guess Jim and Geoff would have liked it more natural and uncleaned... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von PolandMET Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2006 19:00 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos Hi again. From 10 days I work on my new specimen of Morasko little 53kg. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/005.htm Here are some photos from cleaning process and cool pictures AFTER and BEFORE i clean it. First 4 photos will change automaticaly if You hold mouse cursor on them. New photo will load. When You move cursor out of image, first photo will load. So You can compare how specimen changed after I cleaned it. Specimen was cut tooday in half, and next week endpiece will be cut again into large full slices. Look at this 3 large troilite inclusions (one with graphite). I also made a nice 3D Image (360*) of my 4993g Morasko Endpiece. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko4993/index.htm 40 photos must be loaded (894kb total). You can rotate specimen by clicking on image and moving mouse left and right. Here is also 360* photo of my complete specimen of Morasko 5370g http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko5370/index.htm I hope You like them :) CU all in Munich -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos
I not understand why the 3D program not work with me, I have take the photos, put in the program but not work... Matteo You must have enabled Java in Your browser. I have tested in only on Internet Explorer. Depending on Your connection speed, loading of second photo may take few seconds so hold mouse cursor on image longer. There are first 4 photos that will change and also photo where Morasko is on saw. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/005.htm hope this will help :) -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Requesting Info on the Ur Meteorite
I cannot seem to find any detailed information on the 'Ur' iron meteorite from Iraq. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Are there any specimens in private collections? The Met. Bull. is vague regarding this one. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com A Destination for Space Related Artifacts __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Requesting Info on the Ur Meteorite
I think I answered my own question: During excavations at Ur, fragments of iron were found containing 10.9% Ni and undoubtedly of meteoritic origin (1928). Age is estimated 2500 BC. Does anyone have any of this material available? I am trying to complete my Iraqi meteorite collection. Kind regards, Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bandli Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:59 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Requesting Info on the Ur Meteorite I cannot seem to find any detailed information on the 'Ur' iron meteorite from Iraq. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Are there any specimens in private collections? The Met. Bull. is vague regarding this one. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com A Destination for Space Related Artifacts __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 360* Photos
Im sorry :) I send wrong links, should be m instead of M. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_morasko4993/index.htm http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_morasko5370/index.htm but anyway if this will not work still to someone, You need Sun Microsystem Java 2 Runtime Environment 1.4.2_12 , basic Java addon. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html My 360* photos are the same as from Ivan Koutyrev page, so if his photos work to You, my will work also. http://www.sikhote.com/ Sry for multiple emails :( -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars May Be Cozy Place for Hardy Microbes
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2006/48/full/ Release Date: 1:00PM (EDT) October 19, 2006 Release Number: STScI-2006-48 Contact: Neill Reid Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore, Md. (Phone: 410-338-4971, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shiladitya DasSarma University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute, Baltimore, Md. (Phone: 410-234-8847; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Mars May Be Cozy Place for Hardy Microbes A class of especially hardy microbes that live in some of the harshest Earthly environments could flourish on cold Mars and other chilly planets, according to a research team of astronomers and microbiologists. In a two-year laboratory study, the researchers discovered that some cold-adapted microorganisms not only survived but reproduced at 30 degrees Fahrenheit, just below the freezing point of water. The microbes also developed a defense mechanism that protected them from cold temperatures. The researchers are members of a unique collaboration of astronomers from the Space Telescope Science Institute and microbiologists from the University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute's Center of Marine Biotechnology in Baltimore, Md. Their results appear on the International Journal of Astrobiology website. The low temperature limit for life is particularly important since, in both the solar system and the Milky Way Galaxy, cold environments are much more common than hot environments, said Neill Reid, an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute and leader of the research team. Our results show that the lowest temperatures at which these organisms can thrive fall within the temperature range experienced on present-day Mars, and could permit survival and growth, particularly beneath Mars's surface. This could expand the realm of the habitable zone, the area in which life could exist, to colder Mars-like planets. Most stars in our galaxy are cooler than our Sun. The zone around these stars that is suitable for Earth-like temperatures would be smaller and narrower than the so-called habitable zone around our Sun. Therefore, the majority of planets would likely be colder than Earth. In their two-year study, the scientists tested the coldest temperature limits for two types of one-cell organisms: halophiles and methanogens. They are among a group of microbes collectively called extremophiles, so-named because they live in hot springs, acidic fields, salty lakes, and polar ice caps under conditions that would kill humans, animals, and plants. Halophiles flourish in salty water, such as the Great Salt Lake, and have DNA repair systems to protect them from extremely high radiation doses. Methanogens are capable of growth on simple compounds like hydrogen and carbon dioxide for energy and can turn their waste into methane. The halophiles and methanogens used in the experiments are from Antarctic lakes. In the laboratory, the halophiles displayed significant growth to 30 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 1 degree Celsius). The methanogens were active to 28 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 2 degrees Celsius). We have extended the lower temperature limits for these species by several degrees, said Shiladitya DasSarma, a professor and a leader of the team at the Center of Marine Biotechnology, University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute. We had a limited amount of time to grow the organisms in culture, on the order of months. If we could extend the growth time, I think we could lower the temperatures at which they can survive even more. The brine culture in which they grow in the laboratory can remain in liquid form to minus 18 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 28 degrees Celsius), so the potential is there for significantly lower growth temperatures. The scientists also were surprised to find that the halophiles and methanogens protected themselves from frigid temperatures. Some arctic bacteria show similar behavior. These organisms are highly adaptable, and at low temperatures they formed cellular aggregates, DasSarma explained. This was a striking result, which suggests that cells may 'stick together' when temperatures become too cold for growth, providing ways of survival as a population. This is the first detection of this phenomenon in Antarctic species of extremophiles at cold temperatures. The scientists selected these extremophiles for the laboratory study because they are potentially relevant to life on cold, dry Mars. Halophiles could thrive in salty water underneath Mars's surface, which can remain liquid at temperatures well below 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 degrees Celsius). Methanogens could survive on a planet without oxygen, such as Mars. In fact, some scientists have proposed that methanogens produced the methane detected in Mars's atmosphere. This finding demonstrates that rigorous scientific studies on known extremophiles on Earth can provide clues to how life may survive elsewhere in the universe, DasSarma said. The researchers next plan to map the complete genetic
[meteorite-list] More Cool Brenham Links
Dear Listees: For those of you wishing to continue following Steve Phil and the Houston science team's Brenham adventure, here are some good links: 1) National Public Radio interview. You will need RealPlayer or WMV to listen: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6283449 2) Clark Kent Unavailable for Comment Very amusing: http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/4216/44/ 3) Great photo of Steve and crew on the MSNBC site: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15294523/from/ET/ Steve tells me that the monkey in the background (look closely) has his own website, and is something of a famous character in the world of science. We need to research that more closely I think : ) Regards to all, and keep on digging! Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Hello Pierre, Merci for sharing your interesting pictures on your trip to Yemen. The 2 pictures on Al Zeia Beni Morah are really spectacular! Pity you did not find any meteorites there - perhaps next time! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] nearly nailed...
Kunya-Urgench. A large mass impacted 30-50m from several farmers in a cotton field, creating a 6m wide by 4m deep crater. A single stone weighing about 900kg was recovered from the crater.. Boguslavka The first fragment fell near a Cossack who happened to be riding nearby, Ivan Ovchinnikov... Hvittis K.Siivonen, a workman was standing on a field when he heard detonation and soon after that he heard a swishing sound. Swish was so loud that he knelt to avoid any hit. Because he was knelt, he did not notice that the meteorite hit the ground about 100 meters away from him... And so on... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bob WALKER Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2006 09:33 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] nearly nailed... Listoids I have admired MB's hammer stone sale page and whilst I have the odd few hammers I am also interested in the nearly nailed or missed by that much meteorites that whilst not a hammer in the true sense are certainly a collectable in their own right Examples are ucera and talampaya etc etc - whilst I can go thru the blue book and identify some - I am hoping that listees might post with the names and stories of the nearly nailed which would I am certain make a far more interesting read to the listoids rather than the squabbling of late... Cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
- Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello Pierre, Merci for sharing your interesting pictures on your trip to Yemen. The 2 pictures on Al Zeia Beni Morah are really spectacular! Pity you did not find any meteorites there - perhaps next time! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen
Beautiful pictures! Thank you for sharing these. AL HAJJARA looks fascinating. Cheers, tett - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Trip to Yemen Hello to the List, I would like to share with you the pictures I took on my trip to Yemen. I didn't find meteorites as I was in the west of the country which is mostly covered with mountains. But you might enjoy the pictures. The link : http://www.meteor-center.com/expes/yemen2006/ Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.meteor-center.com ___ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TEKTITE STUFF
Hi, This is for the Tektite Subtribe on the List! One hears (reads) many references to the work of Chapman at experimentally duplicating the forms of australites in a high-heat hypersonic flow and explaining their aerodynamics, but I never found a copy of it until I found this one: NASA Technical Report R-134: AERODYNAMIC EVIDENCE PERTAINING TO THE ENTRY OF TEKTITES INTO THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE By DEAN R. CHAPMAN, HOWARD K. LARSON. and LEWIS A. ANDERSON, 1962 http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19630008899_1963008899.pdf Particularly interesting is his discussion of the strange flow lines seen on tektites and his comparison of them to certain anomalous iron meteorites which show the same features. They apparently only appear on objects that enter the Earth's atmosphere just barely above escape velocity (most meteorites are much faster). Makes the markings and flow issues less mysterious. Downloadable. The Czech Geological Survey has a recent very thorough survey of moldavite distribution and abundance that is downloadable: Trnka and Houzar: Moldavites, 2002, Czech Geological Survey (in English) http://nts1.cgu.cz/portal/page/portal/bulletin/contents/2002/vol77no4/04trnkafinal.pdf The Smithsonian studies of tektites are very expensive to acquire (if you can even find them). Here's one free: Occurrence, Distribution, and Age of Australian Tektites By R. 0. Chalmers, E. P. Henderson, and Brian Mason, 1977 http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/EarthSciences/pdf/sces-0017.pdf This is just the abstract, but is the corrective to the oft-repeated error that tektites contain nickel-iron spherules of meteoritic origin (they don't). Oh, they contain NiFe spherules alright, but the metal is terrestrial... http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1983EPSL..65..225G George Baker's chief work (1962) on tektites was an explanation of the evolution of tektite forms by the rotations of molten materials in free fall, but it was a theoretical work. Here is the first experimental demonstration of how the forms evolve, done by spinning melt! Downloadable: A Laboratory Model of Splash-Form Tektites, by Elkins-Tanton, 2002 http://web.mit.edu/nnf/people/jbico/elkins03.pdf Somebody else besides me is sure to want to pour over these... Sterling K. Webb - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canadian collectors
Thank you to everyone who answered my email about Vancouver collectors. I've managed to me a few new people. Trace __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite Barbotan
Hi List I would like to know somebody possesses fragments of the meteorite barbotan to sell (smal fragments ~0.04 to 0.10 grams) Best Regards Fábio __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brenham Curiosity...
According to this, the BIG signal was an abandoned oil well. Buster and I are in Kansas with other volunteers of the Houston museum of Natural Science to unearth Brenham meteorites, (which have been gathered for at least a hundred years, and previously thousands of years ago by ancient Hopewell Indians) But the techniques the team is using are new. We have had great success. A color picture of Buster and Dr Heggy of the Lunar and Planetary Institute is on the front page of Hutchinson Kansas News http://www.hutchnews.com/news/regional/stories/kiowa101406.shtml http://www.hutchnews.com/news/regional/stories/kiowa101406.shtml http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4258636.html http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4258636.html Here are my links with pictures of the new Kansas Brenham Pallasite , ur expedition and the techniques of Ground Penetrating Radar that Dr Heggy used. All pictures by Barbara Wilson, George Observatory. http://weblife.earthlink.net/photo/PhotoAlbumView?AID=vtqctnga::LO:a6g3 http://weblife.earthlink.net/photo/PhotoAlbumView?AID=vtqctnga::LO:a6g3\ http://weblife.earthlink.net/photo/PhotoAlbumView?AID=fvohwdzt::LO:a6g3 http://weblife.earthlink.net/photo/PhotoAlbumView?AID=fvohwdzt::LO:a6g3\ Barbara and Buster Wilson -- Original message -- From: Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Morning- From what I put together in the reports- found in the location of the 12 by 18 feet large target area was some rusty steel cable. I don't believe the 154 lb. meteorite came from the same (immediate) location (?). This is only a curiosity (probably a hopeful one..)- but what would chances be that the found steel cable was originally used to try and get a large meteorite out from the same location and failed? Has any one heard what was found underneath this steel cable? Have a good day Mike Groetz __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos
I not understand why the 3D program not work with me, I have take the photos, put in the program but not work... Matteo --- PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi again. From 10 days I work on my new specimen of Morasko little 53kg. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/005.htm Here are some photos from cleaning process and cool pictures AFTER and BEFORE i clean it. First 4 photos will change automaticaly if You hold mouse cursor on them. New photo will load. When You move cursor out of image, first photo will load. So You can compare how specimen changed after I cleaned it. Specimen was cut tooday in half, and next week endpiece will be cut again into large full slices. Look at this 3 large troilite inclusions (one with graphite). I also made a nice 3D Image (360*) of my 4993g Morasko Endpiece. http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko4993/index.htm 40 photos must be loaded (894kb total). You can rotate specimen by clicking on image and moving mouse left and right. Here is also 360* photo of my complete specimen of Morasko 5370g http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_Morasko5370/index.htm I hope You like them :) CU all in Munich -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What to do with meteorite dust
Why not mix the dust with clear ceramic glaze? You can purchase low temp firing glaze at most hobby shops and fire it in your kitchen on small tiles. It would be stable for hundreds of years and could still be viewed with a microscope. Best regards Steve Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nearly nailed...
Sounds like fun! What made me aware of meteorites in the first place was nearly being nailed. I was driving home from work one evening when I saw a meteorite falling off to my left . I noticed it was no longer moving but just sort of hanging in the air and thought that thing must be coming right toward me. a second later as I ducked down in my seat I had time to think that thing is going to hit me! It screeched by sounding like a cross between a bullet and dipping a red hot bolt in cold water. I sat back up and had to pull off the road, not from being excited but because it left streaks in the duston my windshield and they were blocking my sight. I was so excited I went right home and didn't even look for the meteorite.and I still have not found it after several trips to look for it. I could also kick myself for not taking a photo of the streaks left in the lime dust on my windshield and truck hood.As a further note it was almost dark out but still lightenough to see the fall all the way to my truck even though it had stopped flaming. Best Steve Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos
The link should be http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_morasko/3D_morasko4993/ . URLs on Linux servers are case sensitive. Also, you need to have Java enabled. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Morasko 50kg photos and 3D Photos I not understand why the 3D program not work with me, I have take the photos, put in the program but not work... Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] nearly nailed...
Maybe it was a firefly; it sure wasn't a meteor/meteorite. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] nearly nailed... Sounds like fun! What made me aware of meteorites in the first place was nearly being nailed. I was driving home from work one evening when I saw a meteorite falling off to my left . I noticed it was no longer moving but just sort of hanging in the air and thought that thing must be coming right toward me. a second later as I ducked down in my seat I had time to think that thing is going to hit me! It screeched by sounding like a cross between a bullet and dipping a red hot bolt in cold water. I sat back up and had to pull off the road, not from being excited but because it left streaks in the dust on my windshield and they were blocking my sight. I was so excited I went right home and didn't even look for the meteorite.and I still have not found it after several trips to look for it. I could also kick myself for not taking a photo of the streaks left in the lime dust on my windshield and truck hood.As a further note it was almost dark out but still light enough to see the fall all the way to my truck even though it had stopped flaming. Best Steve __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
