[meteorite-list] meteoritedealers.com website
Dear List and Gary, Thank you Gary for explaining more about yourself and that you have no connection with Mr. Ray DeRusse. I wish you the best with your project and hope that you have success in launching a new platform for dealers to sell and advertise. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
on 12/21/06 10:37 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Geoff accepted the award, he wrote (1-25-2006); I have one request/suggestion: let's make the People's Choice an annual event, so that each year, you can all vote for some deserving person(s) for a Harvey. -- Greetings Mark all, I stand corrected (I am getting used to this). As for being only 125 LBs, Mark, I love you too - also not in a Broke Back Mountain sort of way - as, although your body is small, your heart is big, as Little Big Man's grandfather said (or something just like that). I just came back from a rare day away from the computer and see 96 emails downloaded, but I always read and respond to emails in chronological order, so, I suspect many if not dozens of them chastise (or at least cheer) my demonic blunder. Let it be noted I do agree, Bernd is THE MAN most deserving of a People's Choice Harvey, and I cheerfully throw my hat into the ring along with the dozens upon dozens of other appreciative list members who have seconded your nomination - and salute you for suggesting it. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means!
Hi Rob, You are completely right. I used the worst phrasing I could! Wanted to write by ALL means...No misspelling, no odd translation (in French it just means the same), just... rush and inadvertence! And I used it twice! Now I also realize that even by all means is not strong enough to express my support to Bernd. I agree that perhaps by all measures would be more appropriate to use here. Rob, thank you very much for the remark that certainly now throws more light on what I had in mind. My error was not even humorous, just unintentional, as I could never have imagined writing my friend Bernd would be far from the best choice...I wouldn't write that even for an ennemy! Bernd, who is as fluent in English as he is in...French!, most certainly understood my poor phrasing and corrected by himself. He knows all about my appreciation of his achievements, erudition and his always friendly willing to help. Finally Rob, your remark not only helps removing doubts regarding my appreciation of Bernd's achievements and kindness but is perhaps here the best advertising for his nomination. I am so very happy he is being unanimously proposed. All my best wishes for Christmas and a happy New Year 2007 (with many finds and, why not, some falls into your backyards ?) to all of you, English natives or speaking, overchannel (UK), overseas (US), down under(Austr. NZ) and...wherever in the world. Don't forget, Ensisheim-2007 is now expecting your visit! A sweet opportunity to learn some essential...French! Zelimir A 12:19 21/12/2006 -0800, vous avez écrit : Hi Zelimir, When I read the beginning of your message, I thought you were about to suggest nominating a name OTHER than Bernd -- which of course would be perfectly fine to do. Only upon reading your whole message did it occur to me that, as good as your English is (which is excellent by the way), it isn't your first language, so you wouldn't necessarily realize the unintentionally humorous errors in your post: Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I think what you meant to say was something like Bernd is by all measures the best candidate deserving such a nomination. The way you've worded it, you're suggesting that Bernd isn't even close to being the best choice (implying that you can think of many others more deserving). ;-) I'm pretty sure it's just a translation oddity from French to English, as you use the by no means phrase (again, with humorous result) at the end of your post: ...on behalf of many silent listees from my area who ... are by no means honored to have him as friend. I'm sure your intent was, of course, very honored. ;-) I certainly agree that Bernd is an excellent choice assuming public nomination for a Harvey Prize is acceptable protocol. Best wishes and Joyeux Noël from across the Pond, Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Mark, List Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means honored to have him as friend. Excellent idea Mark! Best wishes for 2007 to all, Zelimir __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT Merry Christmas
Dear List, From my family to yours, we wish you a very Merry Christmas and a happy, HEALTHY, and prosperous 2007. Peace, Dave Carothers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means!
Merry Christmas to you too Zelimir, and you are another fine candidate! I sure hope Rob will have the chance of meeting you some day! And not only Rob, every one on this list who hasn't had the opportunity. Sincerely, Moni From: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Bernd: by ALL means! Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:04:50 +0100 Hi Rob, You are completely right. I used the worst phrasing I could! Wanted to write by ALL means...No misspelling, no odd translation (in French it just means the same), just... rush and inadvertence! And I used it twice! Now I also realize that even by all means is not strong enough to express my support to Bernd. I agree that perhaps by all measures would be more appropriate to use here. Rob, thank you very much for the remark that certainly now throws more light on what I had in mind. My error was not even humorous, just unintentional, as I could never have imagined writing my friend Bernd would be far from the best choice...I wouldn't write that even for an ennemy! Bernd, who is as fluent in English as he is in...French!, most certainly understood my poor phrasing and corrected by himself. He knows all about my appreciation of his achievements, erudition and his always friendly willing to help. Finally Rob, your remark not only helps removing doubts regarding my appreciation of Bernd's achievements and kindness but is perhaps here the best advertising for his nomination. I am so very happy he is being unanimously proposed. All my best wishes for Christmas and a happy New Year 2007 (with many finds and, why not, some falls into your backyards ?) to all of you, English natives or speaking, overchannel (UK), overseas (US), down under(Austr. NZ) and...wherever in the world. Don't forget, Ensisheim-2007 is now expecting your visit! A sweet opportunity to learn some essential...French! Zelimir A 12:19 21/12/2006 -0800, vous avez écrit : Hi Zelimir, When I read the beginning of your message, I thought you were about to suggest nominating a name OTHER than Bernd -- which of course would be perfectly fine to do. Only upon reading your whole message did it occur to me that, as good as your English is (which is excellent by the way), it isn't your first language, so you wouldn't necessarily realize the unintentionally humorous errors in your post: Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I think what you meant to say was something like Bernd is by all measures the best candidate deserving such a nomination. The way you've worded it, you're suggesting that Bernd isn't even close to being the best choice (implying that you can think of many others more deserving). ;-) I'm pretty sure it's just a translation oddity from French to English, as you use the by no means phrase (again, with humorous result) at the end of your post: ...on behalf of many silent listees from my area who ... are by no means honored to have him as friend. I'm sure your intent was, of course, very honored. ;-) I certainly agree that Bernd is an excellent choice assuming public nomination for a Harvey Prize is acceptable protocol. Best wishes and Joyeux Noël from across the Pond, Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zelimir Gabelica Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Mark, List Bernd is by no means the best candidate deserving such a nomination. I hope that even though I can't attend Tucson, I can feel free to second the proposal, personally but also on behalf of many silent listees from my area who are enjoying Bernd's scientific (and personal) contributions related to meteorites and alike on the list and who are by no means honored to have him as friend. Excellent idea Mark! Best wishes for 2007 to all, Zelimir __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Any skin divers within the Meteorite List? Just kidding Fred - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi all, I, for one, am more than happy to leave the rules of how the People's Choice award will be handled in the future to Steve and Geoff, whom I am completely confident will come up with a well considered policy re same. With what amounts to another second from one of the two founders of the Harvey Awards it now seems a near certainty that our Beloved Bernd will be presented The People's Choice Harvey Award in 2007. Therefore, might it be possible to coax him to physically come to the Tucson Show to receive it in person??? I know he has not felt he could come to the show in the past. If mere money has stopped him, I would like to suggest we all pitch in to cover a round trip ticket. I certainly would be delighted to kick into the pot for said ticket. On the other hand, Bernd may have circumstances in his life beyond the financial realm that stop him, in which case we should not infringe on his privacy or personal considerations, but if it is just a matter of air fare from Germany (which must be substantial) I am sure a few hundred of us could easily cover it. I am sure there are at least 200 or 300 of us who would absolutely love to see Bernd at the awards Birthday Bash in person. If you do not want to speak to this issue publicly, Bernd, perhaps you could contact Mark or me or whomever you like and pass the message on so we could get started immediately or respect and accept your need to remain at home, instead. Best wishes, Michael on 12/22/06 1:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, Mark, List, To say that this week is the busiest week that both Geoff and I have had all year would probably be an understatement. Therefore I am sorry it has taken so long for either of us to write in on this topic. (After all, Mark's first post was made a whopping 23 hours ago). I have read the posts about the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Awards, as Geoff has (at least some of them). I took some time to chat with both Geoff and Anne Black a little tonight on the subject, and we have agreed that we need to have some type of rules put in place ASAP. At the very least we need to define how many nominations max (if there is a limit) there should be each year (last year there were 3 nominations), how the nomination process should work, how many awards there should be given each year (last year there were 3 given), and how the voting should be handled. Does everyone in the IMCA get a vote? Or everyone on the list? Or only the previous Harvey Award winners? Does anyone nominated automatically win? Or do we pass out ballots at the party and the vote is made, tabulated and announced all the evening of the awards? Then of course we need to decide if the results of the voting should be kept secret until the awards are given so that it would be a surprise, for both the winner(s) as well as the guests at the party? If only the previous Harvey Award winners get to vote, or if the vote is take at the party, then it might be possible to keep even those nominated a secret to doubly keep the results a surprise to the winner(s). Having given out a good number of Harvey Awards over the last few years, the feed back that comes back to Geoff and I more often than any other by the recipient is I didn't expect this at all, what a surprise and an honor it was. Personally, I feel we would cheat the recipient of this gift of surprise if the results were posted ahead of time publicly. Maybe there is no way to avoid this with the People's Choice, but I would hope there is. Of course, last year, since Geoff and I controlled the nominating and selection process, the only way to usurp our control was with an outright public rebellion. The surprise was gone for us by the party time, although the honor was still appreciated. With last year being unique, there really wasn't a choice on how it was done. However, for future People's Choice awards, we still do have some choices. Anyway, for formality sakes, I too agree to the nomination of Bernd! While I won't go so far as to say no one else in the world deserves to win a People's Choice Harvey more than Bernd does, because it is not my place to say that, as it is the place of the votes that will be cast to determine that; I do whole heartedly support his nomination. Expect Geoff, Anne, and I (as well as a few others) to get together on this subject, probably over the next week or so. (There is nothing important happening next week is there?) Whatever is decided, we should have plenty of time to implement the decision(s) before the Awards are given out on February 2nd. Thanks for your understanding in this matter. Steve Arnold, PMH (Professional Meteorite Hunter) In a message dated 12/22/2006 2:45:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 12/21/06 10:37 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 22, 2006
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteoritedealers.com website
Thank you Dirk. It is gratifying to know that people recognize the difference between meteoritedealers.com and meteorite-dealers.com. Gary On 22 Dec 2006 at 0:05, drtanuki wrote: Dear List and Gary, Thank you Gary for explaining more about yourself and that you have no connection with Mr. Ray DeRusse. I wish you the best with your project and hope that you have success in launching a new platform for dealers to sell and advertise. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] merry christmas and other items
Good morning list from rainy chicago.I sincerely want to wish everyone on this list a healthy and safe Merry Christmas and a healthy and prosperous New Year.I hope the coming year is a better blessing to you than the last.I also want to put in my 2 cents in for Bernd Pauli as a YES for the harvey awards.He has been a real boon to even me on the list.I have never missed one of his emails.He is one of the most influential members on this list.If several members want to pitch in to bring bernd to tucson,count me in as helping out.If he does come,I alas,will not be there next year.It will be my loss.After tomorrow,I will be out till the 2nd of Jan.So again Happy Holidays to all,and I hope you all have what happened to me on 03/26/2003.A meteorite fell in my neck of the woods. Merry Christmas,Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his hipocritical prices.
Merry Christmas All In the spirit of Christmas, that most joyous time of year, lets put the whole thing down to Freedom of Speech and a Free Market Economy. Wouldn't that be nice...even charitable?(It sounds so much better than hypocrisy and profiteering) Have a good one...New Year's Resolutions anyone HoHoHo! Rob McC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD What is wrong with sharing...
Greg, I believe that most list members are like me and enjoy seeing ADs for new material and new sales. However, I also believe that we (list members) get tired of seeing the same specimens offered several times a week when the seller posts reminders like my auctions are ending in two days, my auctions are ending in one day, my auctions are ending in two hoursetc. Everyone on this list (with the exception of one person) is smart enough to make note of some items for sale, if they are interested in purchasing them, without the repetitive reminds. Personally, I find them insulting. I hate pushy sales people. I hate the perfume sales girls at the mall who insists on me trying one of her products for my wife. I hate the going out of business - this is your LAST chance at these fantastic items at rock-bottom prices approach. And I really hate the guy who tries to insult me into buying his products. Obviously you're not smart enough to recognize a fantastic opportunity when you see on tactic. I find these tactics insulting at the mall, on the phone, on the TV and on the Internet. I'm tired of people trying to cram their products down my throat and trying to get their hands in my wallet. If I want to buy something, I'm smart enough to find who has it for sale and I'm smart enough to decide what I'm willing to pay for it. I don't need to be reminded several times. But, if anyone has some new material or is offering a truly discounted sale ( 30% to 50% is good...10% is insulting) , I'm really happy to take a look. If I get sent more than one opportunity for the same sale items, I usually send ALL the offers to my trash bin and make a note to avoid that seller again. Bottom line is that I don't like people who waste my time and treat me like I'm not smart enough to navigate through life without their unsolicited help. This isn't an attack on you Greg - you aren't one of the offenders that annoy me. Happy Holidays to Alland Merry Christmas to those who celebrate the event, John Gwilliam At 12:27 AM 12/22/2006, Greg Hupe wrote: Hello AD lovers, haters and otherwise, What is the big deal with AD postings? Some of you jump on some phantom bandwagon in hate of Ad-posters and the love wagon for those who never sell anything. Both types offer a sincere contribution and ADvantage to meteoritics. To post an AD or announce a new meteorite For Sale is not a bad thing. The more new meteorites discovered and offered for science and sale alike the better I say! A non-lemming AD-Poster and New Meteorite-Offerer signing off... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: December 18-22, 2006
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES December 18-22, 2006 o Channel Crater (Released 18 December 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061218a o New Material (Released 19 December 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061219a o Ridges (Released 20 December 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061220a o Arcuate Fractures (Released 21 December 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061221a o Deuteronilus (Released 22 December 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061222a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hello Michael, Harvey Committee, and all, Michael wrote; I, for one, am more than happy to leave the rules of how the People's Choice award will be handled in the future to Steve and Geoff, whom I am completely confident will come up with a well considered policy re same. Rules...who needs rules? Just kidding. I hope that I did not overstretch myself in the nomination and will endorse any rules set down. I completely support Michael's comment: If mere money has stopped him, I would like to suggest we all pitch in to cover a round trip ticket...air fare from Germany (which must be substantial). Bernd, feel free to contact me or Michael if we could be of any help. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Steve requested privately... I asked Michael to repost my email to you, him and the list that never made it to the list for some reason??? But would you do that for me, so the list can see what all I said? Steve Michael, Mark, List, To say that this week is the busiest week that both Geoff and I have had all year would probably be an understatement. Therefore I am sorry it has taken so long for either of us to write in on this topic. (After all, Mark's first post was made a whopping 23 hours ago). I have read the posts about the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Awards, as Geoff has (at least some of them). I took some time to chat with both Geoff and Anne Black a little tonight on the subject, and we have agreed that we need to have some type of rules put in place ASAP. At the very least we need to define how many nominations max (if there is a limit) there should be each year (last year there were 3 nominations), how the nomination process should work, how many awards there should be given each year (last year there were 3 given), and how the voting should be handled. Does everyone in the IMCA get a vote? Or everyone on the list? Or only the previous Harvey Award winners? Does anyone nominated automatically win? Or do we pass out ballots at the party and the vote is made, tabulated and announced all the evening of the awards? Then of course we need to decide if the results of the voting should be kept secret until the awards are given so that it would be a surprise, for both the winner(s) as well as the guests at the party? If only the previous Harvey Award winners get to vote, or if the vote is take at the party, then it might be possible to keep even those nominated a secret to doubly keep the results a surprise to the winner(s). Having given out a good number of Harvey Awards over the last few years, the feed back that comes back to Geoff and I more often than any other by the recipient is I didn't expect this at all, what a surprise and an honor it was. Personally, I feel we would cheat the recipient of this gift of surprise if the results were posted ahead of time publicly. Maybe there is no way to avoid this with the People's Choice, but I would hope there is. Of course, last year, since Geoff and I controlled the nominating and selection process, the only way to usurp our control was with an outright public rebellion. The surprise was gone for us by the party time, although the honor was still appreciated. With last year being unique, there really wasn't a choice on how it was done. However, for future People's Choice awards, we still do have some choices. Anyway, for formality sakes, I too agree to the nomination of Bernd! While I won't go so far as to say no one else in the world deserves to win a People's Choice Harvey more than Bernd does, because it is not my place to say that, as it is the place of the votes that will be cast to determine that; I do whole heartedly support his nomination. Expect Geoff, Anne, and I (as well as a few others) to get together on this subject, probably over the next week or so. (There is nothing important happening next week is there?) Whatever is decided, we should have plenty of time to implement the decision(s) before the Awards are given out on February 2nd. Thanks for your understanding in this matter. Steve Arnold, PMH (Professional Meteorite Hunter) In a message dated 12/22/2006 2:45:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 12/21/06 10:37 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Geoff accepted the award, he wrote (1-25-2006); I have one request/suggestion: let's make the People's Choice an annual event, so that each year, you can all vote for some deserving person(s) for a Harvey. -- Greetings Mark all, I stand corrected (I am getting used to this). As for being only 125 LBs, Mark, I love you too - also not in a Broke Back Mountain sort of way - as, although your body is small, your heart is big, as Little Big Man's grandfather said (or something just like that). I just came back from a rare day away from the computer and see 96 emails downloaded, but I always read and respond to emails in chronological order, so, I suspect many if not dozens of them chastise (or at least cheer) my demonic blunder. Let it be noted I do agree, Bernd is THE MAN most deserving of a People's Choice Harvey, and I cheerfully throw my hat into the ring along with the dozens upon dozens of other appreciative list members who have seconded your nomination - and salute you for suggesting it. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Steve, Geoff, Mark, The People's Choice Award is pretty simple to figure out who would be a winner each year. Everyone, as a single person, has a single vote and should vote for someone (or pair, group, etc.) he or she thinks is deserving of the award. Simply add up the votes and whoever has the most, wins. I don't think it should require a round-table emergency meeting and rules to figure out. I suggested it last year, as Mark graciously pointed out earlier, as a fun thing to do and suggested Steve and Geoff since they would not nominate themselves for a well deserved award of their own. So, please do not make it a painful, political thing. As we learned long ago in business school, K.I.S.S., Keep It Simple Stupid. That is, do not ruin a fun thing with a bunch of rules. There can be 600 nominations and if one person has two votes and the rest only one, simple math, the majority of the People think so-and-so should get it. My thoughts... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Steve requested privately... I asked Michael to repost my email to you, him and the list that never made it to the list for some reason??? But would you do that for me, so the list can see what all I said? Steve Michael, Mark, List, To say that this week is the busiest week that both Geoff and I have had all year would probably be an understatement. Therefore I am sorry it has taken so long for either of us to write in on this topic. (After all, Mark's first post was made a whopping 23 hours ago). I have read the posts about the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Awards, as Geoff has (at least some of them). I took some time to chat with both Geoff and Anne Black a little tonight on the subject, and we have agreed that we need to have some type of rules put in place ASAP. At the very least we need to define how many nominations max (if there is a limit) there should be each year (last year there were 3 nominations), how the nomination process should work, how many awards there should be given each year (last year there were 3 given), and how the voting should be handled. Does everyone in the IMCA get a vote? Or everyone on the list? Or only the previous Harvey Award winners? Does anyone nominated automatically win? Or do we pass out ballots at the party and the vote is made, tabulated and announced all the evening of the awards? Then of course we need to decide if the results of the voting should be kept secret until the awards are given so that it would be a surprise, for both the winner(s) as well as the guests at the party? If only the previous Harvey Award winners get to vote, or if the vote is take at the party, then it might be possible to keep even those nominated a secret to doubly keep the results a surprise to the winner(s). Having given out a good number of Harvey Awards over the last few years, the feed back that comes back to Geoff and I more often than any other by the recipient is I didn't expect this at all, what a surprise and an honor it was. Personally, I feel we would cheat the recipient of this gift of surprise if the results were posted ahead of time publicly. Maybe there is no way to avoid this with the People's Choice, but I would hope there is. Of course, last year, since Geoff and I controlled the nominating and selection process, the only way to usurp our control was with an outright public rebellion. The surprise was gone for us by the party time, although the honor was still appreciated. With last year being unique, there really wasn't a choice on how it was done. However, for future People's Choice awards, we still do have some choices. Anyway, for formality sakes, I too agree to the nomination of Bernd! While I won't go so far as to say no one else in the world deserves to win a People's Choice Harvey more than Bernd does, because it is not my place to say that, as it is the place of the votes that will be cast to determine that; I do whole heartedly support his nomination. Expect Geoff, Anne, and I (as well as a few others) to get together on this subject, probably over the next week or so. (There is nothing important happening next week is there?) Whatever is decided, we should have plenty of time to implement the decision(s) before the Awards are given out on February 2nd. Thanks for your understanding in this matter. Steve Arnold, PMH (Professional Meteorite Hunter) In a message dated 12/22/2006 2:45:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 12/21/06 10:37 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] wot I'd like to see for Xmas
..is a bare-knuckle fist fight between Mike and Matteo. Shall we pool the funds and set them up into some sort of Killer Contest? The loser can take honour in losing gracefully (assuming they were still alive, the winner can take the rest of the market share nad we can be all relieved at closure of this long running word-fencing! BTW - I nominate the Great Bernd!! Top man! Top intellect! First class manners and a truely erudite person. I bow before you! best! Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Crystal Found in Meteorite Traced To A Red-Giant Star
http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=4862 Ruby from a red giant A speck of crystal that fell to Earth in a meteorite has been traced back to a red-giant star. Bas den Hond Astronomy Magazine December 21, 2006 It's not the same as having a sample return mission to, say, Aldebaran, but it's still pretty awesome: mounted on a gold pedestal in a laboratory in the Carnegie Institute of Washington and then bombarded by ions, a grain of less than a micrometer has confessed that it came from a different star. According to research published in the December 19 Astronomy Astrophysics, the crystal probably formed near a star of intermediate mass, 4 to 7 times that of the Sun, which was nearing the end of its life and had entered the red-giant stage. Lead author Maria Lugaro, an Italian astronomer at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, says finding and analyzing similar specks could yield important information about the conditions inside red giants. The speck in question has been christened OC2. No one knows precisely how it got to Earth. It was found in residue left after pieces of three stony meteorites, or chondrites, were dissolved in acid to analyze their contents. So OC2 may have landed in Bishunpur, India, in 1895, in Semarkona, India, in 1940 or in Krymka, Ukraine, in 1946. In any case, it was snugly embedded in stuff that once was part of an asteroid, which, before that, made up the Sun's primordial cloud of gas and dust. Sometime before the solar system's formation, OC2 must have drifted in and been mixed up in its history. Recognizing a grain as pre-solar isn't a big deal anymore. Scientists have identified a few thousand made of various minerals including corundum, hibonite and spinel. The grains are recognized by weighing some of their constituent atoms. This happens in a mass spectrometer, after an ion beam has struck them loose. In the case of spinel, a ruby-like crystal that consists of magnesium, aluminum, and oxygen atoms, the magnesium atoms of the pre-solar variety turn out to be heavier, on average, than in the same material from the bulk of meteorites. The magnesium contains more of the variants, or isotopes, with atomic weights 25 and 26. In OC2, this is even more pronounced. Computer models of how stars burn up their hydrogen fuel into helium, and so on to heavier elements, can follow magnesium as it is formed, transported by currents of hot gas, and, eventually, spewed out into space. In a red giant of intermediate mass, in particular, a phenomenon called dredging-up brings hot material from a deep, helium-burning layer to where hydrogen is being consumed. All this affects the survival rates of different magnesium isotopes, which determines their ultimate mix. This research is as much astronomy as it is chemistry, nuclear physics, and laboratory analysis, Lugaro says. Her co-authors come from all those disciplines, and from four different countries. Their conclusion that the parent star of OC2 should be a red giant of intermediate mass - although, at this point, a low-mass red giant is also conceivable - is all the more exciting as information on the chemical composition of these stars is scarce. Once researchers find siblings of OC2, and astrophysicists get more confident about what type of star must be their source, the tables can be turned: They will then start demanding computer models produce dust grains like OC2. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli)
Hello List, This short autobio was submitted by Bernd to the List during our What I Do thread in 2000. David --- Original Message Subject: Waht I du Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:54 +0100 From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello All, Sorry for the delay but I am swamped with work at school :-( As for biographical information , I will be 55 next May 12th. I was born on May 12th 1945 - i.e. four days after Nazi Germany surrendered. I attended elementary school in 1951, later high school, passed my final exams in 1965 and served in a German combat tank unit (M41, M46, etc. - American tanks) from 1965 till 1967. Then followed my years as a student at Mannheim University - Mannheim is my hometown (only about 30 miles away from where I live now). At the age of 12, I developed a keen interest in astronomy which soon turned into a life-long passion. I now have a Celestron 8 with a C-5 mounted piggyback. But strangely enough, I used to skip those pages in my astronomy books that dealt with meteors, comets, and meteorites, until, in the mid-80s, I got hooked on meteorites at mineral and gem shows which I attended regularly because I had, by then, become a passionate rockhound (quartz, agate, smoky quartz, rock crystals amethysts, fluorite, etc.). More than once I risked my life and my health in some of our quarries, but I wouldn?t miss any of those moments. One day, in the early eighties, I bought my first moldavite from an Austrian dealer - a Mr. Zensinger, but I don?t quite remember his name - then a tektite, and a small, round, cut and etched Mundrabilla iron specimen from the Zeitschels because I thought it was the proper thing to have for an amateur astronomer. A Canyon Diablo soon followed, then an Odessa, an Allende for about $ 1.00/gr (!) and a Nuevo Mercurio for $ 1.00/gr (!) and soon I realized that I had become addicted to meteorites. I offered the man who sold them to help him with his meteorite business at mineral and gem shows and we soon made friends. And I bought books, old and new, about meteorites - among them the 3rd edition of the Meteorite Catalogue that was later followed by the famous 4th edition. After enthusiastically reading Heide's booklet on meteorites Kleine Meteoritenkunde, I wanted to find out if the statistical results about falls and finds were still valid. I started typing the third edition of the Meteorite Catalog into my Commodore 64 but after about 300 records, got the inevitable out of memory messages. I continued with a C128, and then, finally I bought an Epson PC, and continued my time-consuming, tedious work of entering data from the 4th edition manually. Having accomplished that, I became a member of the Meteoritical Society in 1987, and got subscribed to the Antarctic Meteorite Newsletter. From then on, I also had to enter meteoritical bulletins, lots of references, abstracts, and scientific papers. For a short time I cooperated with Rolf Bühler?s SML to produce and publish WinMetCat 1.0 (We even sold licenses to the Smithsonian, to Gero Kurat of the Vienna Museum, to R. Wieler of the ETH Zurich, and even to some of our list members like Guy Heinen - just to name a few) until I joined the List in January 1998. I have been a teacher since 1971 and I teach English and French at a German ?Gymnasium? - comparable to a British ?grammar school? or an American high school. I've been married for 32 years now, and have a daughter (31 years old) who made us grandpa and grandma on April 24th 1999 (Last Sunday was a special day in our family - Baby Fabian?s baptism ceremony :-) and a son (24 years old). When I am not busy working for school, you often find me scanning new meteorite-related info, or typing answers for our List :-) I also collect stamps (especially German stamps), Australian Kokaburra and Kangaroo silver coins, I very much love to work in our garden (time and weather permitting). Several years ago, I got hooked on another field of interest: Ancient Egypt. I now own more than 50 books on Pharaonic Egypt and have also learnt the basics of hieroglyphs. And I almost forgot: I am also a member of a pop group. We just play and rehearse for fun - no public performances. Every now and then some of my buddies congregate to play good ol? rock n? roll music and lots of oldies; especially songs of the late 50s, 60s, and early 70s with instrumentals like the Shadows? ?Apache?, ?Midnight?, ?FBI?, etc. (I play the lead guitar with these instrumentals) or ?Needles and Pins?, ?Love Potion No.9?, ?Hang On Sloopy?, and many more. The group's name is The Fameless Four but Alex Seidel loves to nickname it The Shameless Four - Shame on you, Alex :-). Best regards, Bernd -- Archives located at:
[meteorite-list] White Dwarf Shreds and Vaporizes Asteroid
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn10853-white-dwarf-shreds-and-vaporises-asteroid.html White dwarf shreds and vaporises asteroid David Shiga New Scientist 21 December 2006 An asteroid has been ripped to shreds and vaporised after straying too close to a hot white dwarf star, observations suggest. The asteroid was probably flung towards the white dwarf by the gravity of one or more unseen planets, astronomers say. Stars like the Sun become bloated red giants when they age, then gradually blow off their outer layers until only a dense, inactive core called a white dwarf is left. Scientists are interested in signs of planets and asteroids around these stellar embers because they offer a preview of what will eventually happen to solar systems like our own. Astronomers have previously seen other white dwarfs orbited by dusty debris discs and with unusually large amounts of metal on their surfaces, suggesting they are absorbing asteroids that have wandered too close to them and been torn apart (see Rocky planets may circle many white dwarfs http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn8940-rocky-planets-may-circle-many-white-dwarfs.html). Now, researchers led by Boris Gaensicke of the University of Warwick, UK, have found the best evidence yet of an asteroid being consumed by a white dwarf. The evidence comes in the form of a hot ring of metallic vapour around a white dwarf called SDSS 1228+1040. Surface gravity The researchers found signs of the disc in light spectra from the white dwarf acquired by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey's 2.5-metre telescope at Apache Point, New Mexico, US, the 4.2-metre William Herschel Telescope in the Canary Islands, and by Caltech's orbiting Galaxy Evolution Explorer (GALEX). The spectra indicate that a disc containing calcium, magnesium, and iron gas is orbiting the white dwarf at a distance 100 times closer than Mercury's orbit around the Sun. At this distance, intense radiation from the white dwarf heats the gas to 5000 Kelvin. The spectra also show that the white dwarf's atmosphere is enriched in magnesium. That indicates material from the disc is falling onto the star, since the star's own surface gravity is so great that its own heavy elements should have already sunk towards its centre - and out of sight. Unseen planets To explain all of this, Gaensicke's team proposes that an asteroid was flung towards the white dwarf and was ripped apart by the white dwarf's gravity, with the resulting metal-rich dust heated until it was vaporised. The location of the disc supports this idea, according to previous calculations, says team member Tom Marsh, also of the University of Warwick. It turns out that asteroids should get torn up at this sort of distance, he told New Scientist. The destruction of the asteroid also hints that unseen planets are lurking in this system. In the star's previous red giant phase, it should have bloated up so much that it purged everything out to the distance of Mars in our solar system. So the very fact that the asteroid is so close to the white dwarf now requires it to have been nudged there by something in the outer regions of that solar system. The researchers suggest that one or more planets survived the red giant phase and gravitationally flung the asteroid towards the white dwarf. Benjamin Zuckerman of the University of California in Los Angeles, US, who has previously published evidence with colleagues about dusty discs around white dwarfs, says the new results are the clearest evidence yet of an asteroid or other object thrown towards a white dwarf and destroyed. Planetary survivors It shows that likely many planets and asteroids can survive the red giant and planetary nebulae phases of stellar evolution, he told New Scientist. Ted von Hippel of the University of Texas in Austin, US, who has also researched white dwarf discs, agrees that the new evidence makes a good case for the destruction of an asteroid, or perhaps even a rocky planet, given the uncertainty in the original object's mass. The gravitational influence of one or more unseen planets is a likely explanation for this, he says. It is also possible that the disc is just material shed by the star in the late part of its life, although the lack of hydrogen in the disc would be difficult to explain in this case, he says. If the disrupted asteroid or planet idea is right, it will shed new light on the fate of planetary systems like our own, he says. There's been very little work about what would happen to planetary systems when a star goes to red giant and white dwarf, he told New Scientist. This is giving us insight into the late stages of a planetary system - you could say planetary system destruction, he says. Journal reference: Science (vol 314, p 1908) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
That turned out pretty darn good Greg. Mark - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
Hi Mark, Thank you for the compliment. It was a fun project to save the image as kind of a Virtual Museum of sorts. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteoritelist Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian That turned out pretty darn good Greg. Mark - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli)
Hello David and all, Bernd was also interview for Meteorite Times in 2002, linked below. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/May/Meteorite_People.htm Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Lobster will be just great for X-Mas! Tks. Fred - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell To: Fred Caillou Noir ; David Weir ; Michael Farmer Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake yep. would you like lobster with your grouper? or stone crabs? Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any skin divers within the Meteorite List? Just kidding Fred - Original Message - From: David Weir To: Michael Farmer Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake But Michael, think of the potential value that the strewn field map may provide us someday (I know I'm not smart enough to imagine it). Maybe Richard and Roland could spell out for us the great importance of such a map. David Michael Farmer wrote: ... You can all forget about recovery of more Tagish Lake meteorites. The Canadians lost it all when they closed off the site to all but a few people, who took two months to make a neat little map of locations of pieces frozen into the ice, then lost them all when a fast thaw came along. Great job scientists, you lost 99% of the rarest meteorite fall on the planet because you wanted to keep it all secret and to yourselves __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli)
Hello list, having read Bernd's autobiographical notes it's clear even for a relatively new list member such as me that he is absolutely a worthy candidate for receiving the mentioned award. Informal addition: he's worthy simply cause he's a 12th of may - born as I'm and as Joseph Beuys was. Best to all, wish you white snow green christmastrees, over and over decorated with breathtakingly rare achondrites, planetaries, widmannstaetten-sparkling and neverrusting iron-fullslices etc. etc. Matthias Baermann - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli) Hello List, This short autobio was submitted by Bernd to the List during our What I Do thread in 2000. David --- Original Message Subject: Waht I du Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:54 +0100 From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello All, Sorry for the delay but I am swamped with work at school :-( As for biographical information , I will be 55 next May 12th. I was born on May 12th 1945 - i.e. four days after Nazi Germany surrendered. I attended elementary school in 1951, later high school, passed my final exams in 1965 and served in a German combat tank unit (M41, M46, etc. - American tanks) from 1965 till 1967. Then followed my years as a student at Mannheim University - Mannheim is my hometown (only about 30 miles away from where I live now). At the age of 12, I developed a keen interest in astronomy which soon turned into a life-long passion. I now have a Celestron 8 with a C-5 mounted piggyback. But strangely enough, I used to skip those pages in my astronomy books that dealt with meteors, comets, and meteorites, until, in the mid-80s, I got hooked on meteorites at mineral and gem shows which I attended regularly because I had, by then, become a passionate rockhound (quartz, agate, smoky quartz, rock crystals amethysts, fluorite, etc.). More than once I risked my life and my health in some of our quarries, but I wouldn?t miss any of those moments. One day, in the early eighties, I bought my first moldavite from an Austrian dealer - a Mr. Zensinger, but I don?t quite remember his name - then a tektite, and a small, round, cut and etched Mundrabilla iron specimen from the Zeitschels because I thought it was the proper thing to have for an amateur astronomer. A Canyon Diablo soon followed, then an Odessa, an Allende for about $ 1.00/gr (!) and a Nuevo Mercurio for $ 1.00/gr (!) and soon I realized that I had become addicted to meteorites. I offered the man who sold them to help him with his meteorite business at mineral and gem shows and we soon made friends. And I bought books, old and new, about meteorites - among them the 3rd edition of the Meteorite Catalogue that was later followed by the famous 4th edition. After enthusiastically reading Heide's booklet on meteorites Kleine Meteoritenkunde, I wanted to find out if the statistical results about falls and finds were still valid. I started typing the third edition of the Meteorite Catalog into my Commodore 64 but after about 300 records, got the inevitable out of memory messages. I continued with a C128, and then, finally I bought an Epson PC, and continued my time-consuming, tedious work of entering data from the 4th edition manually. Having accomplished that, I became a member of the Meteoritical Society in 1987, and got subscribed to the Antarctic Meteorite Newsletter. From then on, I also had to enter meteoritical bulletins, lots of references, abstracts, and scientific papers. For a short time I cooperated with Rolf Bühler?s SML to produce and publish WinMetCat 1.0 (We even sold licenses to the Smithsonian, to Gero Kurat of the Vienna Museum, to R. Wieler of the ETH Zurich, and even to some of our list members like Guy Heinen - just to name a few) until I joined the List in January 1998. I have been a teacher since 1971 and I teach English and French at a German ?Gymnasium? - comparable to a British ?grammar school? or an American high school. I've been married for 32 years now, and have a daughter (31 years old) who made us grandpa and grandma on April 24th 1999 (Last Sunday was a special day in our family - Baby Fabian?s baptism ceremony :-) and a son (24 years old). When I am not busy working for school, you often find me scanning new meteorite-related info, or typing answers for our List :-) I also collect stamps (especially German stamps), Australian Kokaburra and Kangaroo silver coins, I very much love to work in our garden (time and weather permitting). Several years ago, I got hooked on another field of interest: Ancient Egypt. I now own more than 50
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Greg, Your math seems a little convoluted to me. You said There can be 600 nominations and if one person has two votes and the rest only one, simple math, the majority of the People think so-and-so should get it. I think the majority of the people thought so-and-so should NOT get it. Must there always be a People's Choice recipient when there is not an actual preponderance of opinion? 598 against to 2 for does not merit a preponderance of opinions in the affirmative. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Dave, Simply meant to say that if one person received more votes than any other individual, they have more votes than the rest (not combined). Lets say that I give you one vote and nobody else does and Bernd currently has, say, 30 votes, he wins by having more votes. I thought it was simple, but too much thought is being inserted into it. I give up, do as you will, say as you must, vote for who you trust... It is supposed to be fun so lets try and leave it that way. Greg - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Greg, Your math seems a little convoluted to me. You said There can be 600 nominations and if one person has two votes and the rest only one, simple math, the majority of the People think so-and-so should get it. I think the majority of the people thought so-and-so should NOT get it. Must there always be a People's Choice recipient when there is not an actual preponderance of opinion? 598 against to 2 for does not merit a preponderance of opinions in the affirmative. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli)
Excellent, David. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Waht I du] (Bernd Pauli) Hello List, This short autobio was submitted by Bernd to the List during our What I Do thread in 2000. David --- Original Message Subject: Waht I du Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:54 +0100 From: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello All, Sorry for the delay but I am swamped with work at school :-( As for biographical information , I will be 55 next May 12th. I was born on May 12th 1945 - i.e. four days after Nazi Germany surrendered. I attended elementary school in 1951, later high school, passed my final exams in 1965 and served in a German combat tank unit (M41, M46, etc. - American tanks) from 1965 till 1967. Then followed my years as a student at Mannheim University - Mannheim is my hometown (only about 30 miles away from where I live now). At the age of 12, I developed a keen interest in astronomy which soon turned into a life-long passion. I now have a Celestron 8 with a C-5 mounted piggyback. But strangely enough, I used to skip those pages in my astronomy books that dealt with meteors, comets, and meteorites, until, in the mid-80s, I got hooked on meteorites at mineral and gem shows which I attended regularly because I had, by then, become a passionate rockhound (quartz, agate, smoky quartz, rock crystals amethysts, fluorite, etc.). More than once I risked my life and my health in some of our quarries, but I wouldn?t miss any of those moments. One day, in the early eighties, I bought my first moldavite from an Austrian dealer - a Mr. Zensinger, but I don?t quite remember his name - then a tektite, and a small, round, cut and etched Mundrabilla iron specimen from the Zeitschels because I thought it was the proper thing to have for an amateur astronomer. A Canyon Diablo soon followed, then an Odessa, an Allende for about $ 1.00/gr (!) and a Nuevo Mercurio for $ 1.00/gr (!) and soon I realized that I had become addicted to meteorites. I offered the man who sold them to help him with his meteorite business at mineral and gem shows and we soon made friends. And I bought books, old and new, about meteorites - among them the 3rd edition of the Meteorite Catalogue that was later followed by the famous 4th edition. After enthusiastically reading Heide's booklet on meteorites Kleine Meteoritenkunde, I wanted to find out if the statistical results about falls and finds were still valid. I started typing the third edition of the Meteorite Catalog into my Commodore 64 but after about 300 records, got the inevitable out of memory messages. I continued with a C128, and then, finally I bought an Epson PC, and continued my time-consuming, tedious work of entering data from the 4th edition manually. Having accomplished that, I became a member of the Meteoritical Society in 1987, and got subscribed to the Antarctic Meteorite Newsletter. From then on, I also had to enter meteoritical bulletins, lots of references, abstracts, and scientific papers. For a short time I cooperated with Rolf Bühler?s SML to produce and publish WinMetCat 1.0 (We even sold licenses to the Smithsonian, to Gero Kurat of the Vienna Museum, to R. Wieler of the ETH Zurich, and even to some of our list members like Guy Heinen - just to name a few) until I joined the List in January 1998. I have been a teacher since 1971 and I teach English and French at a German ?Gymnasium? - comparable to a British ?grammar school? or an American high school. I've been married for 32 years now, and have a daughter (31 years old) who made us grandpa and grandma on April 24th 1999 (Last Sunday was a special day in our family - Baby Fabian?s baptism ceremony :-) and a son (24 years old). When I am not busy working for school, you often find me scanning new meteorite-related info, or typing answers for our List :-) I also collect stamps (especially German stamps), Australian Kokaburra and Kangaroo silver coins, I very much love to work in our garden (time and weather permitting). Several years ago, I got hooked on another field of interest: Ancient Egypt. I now own more than 50 books on Pharaonic Egypt and have also learnt the basics of hieroglyphs. And I almost forgot: I am also a member of a pop group. We just play and rehearse for fun - no public performances. Every now and then some of my buddies congregate to play good ol? rock n? roll music and lots of oldies; especially songs of the late 50s, 60s, and early 70s with instrumentals like the Shadows? ?Apache?, ?Midnight?, ?FBI?, etc. (I play the lead guitar with these instrumentals) or ?Needles and Pins?, ?Love Potion
[meteorite-list] park, ks
anybody gotta link to pix of it? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite-dealers.com Listings
Hi List, I have been going back thru all past submissions to meteorite-dealers.com adding email addresses to the listings that already exist onsite. I will be doing this over the next few days. If anyone would prefer to not have their email address listed please email me using this link and I will not include your email address; [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you DO wish to have your email address and URL included please use the form at http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html . Otherwise I may only have your email address on file for inclusion. If I do not get a NO email request I will do my best to include not only your email address, but also your URL wherever possible. Please do not consider this post an ad as I get no revenue out of this - only a better listing for you. If you do consider this post an ad I apologize in advance for breaking the one-ad-per-week 'rule'. Thanks, Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] the age of pallasites
as i sit and stare at my rusting 5lbs. megachunk of brahin, it is amazing to see the evolution of pallasites in meteorite collecting in the past 10 years. i remember when BRAHIN was $25/g (as my head morphs into a jackass's). now there are TONS of them out there with russia pumping 'em out like popcorn at a cheap movie house. and now brenham, chinese ones, etc.. oh, and HOWARDITES went for over $100/g, back then , too. i just bought 21 g one on ebay for , like, 78 bux, or something. glad i'm not this hobby for an investment. glad it is just that- a hobby. but...former $5/g bonita springs ain't leaving my case for under $25/g now. and ANY stone meteorite for under $1/g was to be snatched up immed. now they sell for $30 for 2 lbs of 'em on ebay. unreal... i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot I'd like to see for Xmas
Now that would be great. I propose the Coliseum in Rome, since Italy is one of the last countries in Europe that I have no visited. I feel confident that I would prevail in such a death-match, just being on this list for 10 years is like being a gladiator! Michael Farmer --- Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..is a bare-knuckle fist fight between Mike and Matteo. Shall we pool the funds and set them up into some sort of Killer Contest? The loser can take honour in losing gracefully (assuming they were still alive, the winner can take the rest of the market share nad we can be all relieved at closure of this long running word-fencing! BTW - I nominate the Great Bernd!! Top man! Top intellect! First class manners and a truely erudite person. I bow before you! best! Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
Now that is a great video! Nice stone, I hope it might reside for a short time in my display case at the Tucson show? HINT HINT. Michael Farmer --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] wot I'd like to see for Xmas
yay! The gauntlet is down! The Colosseum is perfect!! Now, will Matteo take you up on the offer? You could have armour made from non-rusty Campos! ---Original Message--- From: Michael Farmer Date: 12/22/06 21:52:14 To: Dave Harris; metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wot I'd like to see for Xmas Now that would be great. I propose the Coliseum in Rome, since Italy is one of the last countries in Europe that I have no visited. I feel confident that I would prevail in such a death-match, just being on this list for 10 years is like being a gladiator! Michael Farmer --- Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..is a bare-knuckle fist fight between Mike and Matteo. Shall we pool the funds and set them up into some sort of Killer Contest? The loser can take honour in losing gracefully (assuming they were still alive, the winner can take the rest of the market share nad we can be all relieved at closure of this long running word-fencing! BTW - I nominate the Great Bernd!! Top man! Top intellect! First class manners and a truely erudite person. I bow before you! best! Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list IMSTP.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wow!
What a guy!! what more can I say? A rock 'n' roller as well!! What guitars and amps do you use (fellow muso here)! best! Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 24 hours left for Christmas Auctions
Dear All, Only about 24 hours left for you to catch some of the meteorites that we propose this week on ebay. You can see them at http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZkayunwar as usual. Just before Christmas, we have decided to give you the oportunity to try and get a great BIG Sahara 02500 individual weighing 1819g! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077578 Two more individuals of Sahara 02500 are also waiting for your bids, weighing respectively 148.4g and 347g: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077562 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077710 There is also a beautiful slice of Sahara 03501 with fantastic metal veins and dark thick fusion crust on the edges weighing 148.7g: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077789 A gorgeous partslice of Zag that displays about the same surface of each lithology and a slickenside on one edge, weighing 9.9g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077892 2 partslices of Sahara 02503, a nice CV3 displaying sharply defined chondrules and nice CAIs, weighing respectively 1.8g and 2.1g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077734 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077745 Quite a big oriented TAZA individual weighing 19.5g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077869 A beautiful oriented 12.2g Sikhote Alin http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077839 One of the few slices of our OC #4025 left, with an unusually thick fusion crust: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077921 A 1.2g lot of Tatahouine fragments: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077852 Some great slices of DaG 573 (L4 - 21.7g), HaH 244 (L5-6 - 29.3g) HaH 254 (L5-6 - 33.7g): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077527 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060077543 And finally our usual selection of OCs, most of them fusion crusted: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060076510 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060076530 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060076547 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060076560 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130060076575 We wish you good luck and A MERRY X-MAS!!! All the Best, Frederic Kayunwar (Michel Franco is IMCA member #3869 and Frederic Beroud is IMCA member #2491) http://www.caillou-noir.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks Chladni's Heirs
Martin, Stefan und Andi, I'dd like to say big thanks for the the NWA 4483 lunar sample. Just came in today and we love it!! (It seems we were one of the winners of the cachets, chatsets, chacets things boxes cases or whatever they will be calleddamn i'm so good in English!!) See ya guys in Tucson !! Will be though this time...I made a bet i'll be wearing wooden shoes during the whole show...auch!! Thanks, Jan Yvonne www.heavenlybodies.nl Meteorites... Close encounters of the best kind.. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2007 Harvey Award Nominee - Solomonic Solution
Dear ALL! I am overwhelmed and definitely do feel honored - special thanks to Steve Arnold (Chicago) - whatever the outcome of this thread may be. Special thanks also to my Brother-In-Stealth, Michael Blood (please, say hello to Angel!) and all those good people who would support his proposal of covering a round trip ticket. But, let me tell you that money is not the problem - it is time. I would never get my principal's permission to attend Tucson and be absent from school during that time. Now, ... re: Solomonic Solution - I will retire in about 18 months and then I am sure I will be attending one of the Tucson Shows. There is a long-standing invitation from both Twink and Larry Monrad and from Jim Kriegh to come to Tucson and to live at Jim's house together with my Pauline. We would even have the honor to live under one roof with the Nortons! So, let's nominate someone else for the People's 2007 H-A-N and if you still feel that I would or could be a worthy nominee as soon as I will have retired, I would feel honored and grateful and mighty proud to receive and accept it in person, in Tucson, and hopefully in good health. It was such a thrill to be nominated and accepted as a member of the Guardians of the Ensisheim Meteorite two years ago that I have to concur with Brenham Steve Arnold's argumentation that the surprise factor can really give such a nomination an additional (emotional) boost! Thank you All, Merry Christmas, A Happy and Prosperous New Year ! Bernd (and, of course, Pauline) .. off to bed now with two beauties: My Pauline and the latest addition to my meteorite collection: a 1000+ gram (unclassified) NWA individual from Carsten. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14
Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
Hi Greg, and All, That's one hell of a great video clip of an even more fascinating Mars rock - thanks for sharing it! Talking of NWA 4468: I also loved your recovery story, published in the November issue of METEORITE. If you don't have it, get it - it's a great read. All the best, and a very Merry Christmas to you all! Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] From Steve Arnold: 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Micheal, For some reason my email did NOT make it to the list, but it did get to you. I know it was on the bottom of your last email to the list you sent, but would you kindly resend it for me, so that people will know what both you and I were talking about? In the mean time I will see if I can figure out why the post didn't go through (it is probably an AOL thing). Steve --- Michael, Mark, List, To say that this week is the busiest week that both Geoff and I have had all year would probably be an understatement. Therefore I am sorry it has taken so long for either of us to write in on this topic. (After all, Mark's first post was made a whopping 23 hours ago). I have read the posts about the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Awards, as Geoff has (at least some of them). I took some time to chat with both Geoff and Anne Black a little tonight on the subject, and we have agreed that we need to have some type of rules put in place ASAP. At the very least we need to define how many nominations max (if there is a limit) there should be each year (last year there were 3 nominations), how the nomination process should work, how many awards there should be given each year (last year there were 3 given), and how the voting should be handled. Does everyone in the IMCA get a vote? Or everyone on the list? Or only the previous Harvey Award winners? Does anyone nominated automatically win? Or do we pass out ballots at the party and the vote is made, tabulated and announced all the evening of the awards? Then of course we need to decide if the results of the voting should be kept secret until the awards are given so that it would be a surprise, for both the winner(s) as well as the guests at the party? If only the previous Harvey Award winners get to vote, or if the vote is take at the party, then it might be possible to keep even those nominated a secret to doubly keep the results a surprise to the winner(s). Having given out a good number of Harvey Awards over the last few years, the feed back that comes back to Geoff and I more often than any other by the recipient is I didn't expect this at all, what a surprise and an honor it was. Personally, I feel we would cheat the recipient of this gift of surprise if the results were posted ahead of time publicly. Maybe there is no way to avoid this with the People's Choice, but I would hope there is. Of course, last year, since Geoff and I controlled the nominating and selection process, the only way to usurp our control was with an outright public rebellion. The surprise was gone for us by the party time, although the honor was still appreciated. With last year being unique, there really wasn't a choice on how it was done. However, for future People's Choice awards, we still do have some choices. Anyway, for formality sakes, I too agree to the nomination of Bernd! While I won't go so far as to say no one else in the world deserves to win a People's Choice Harvey more than Bernd does, because it is not my place to say that, as it is the place of the votes that will be cast to determine that; I do whole heartedly support his nomination. Expect Geoff, Anne, and I (as well as a few others) to get together on this subject, probably over the next week or so. (There is nothing important happening next week is there?) Whatever is decided, we should have plenty of time to implement the decision(s) before the Awards are given out on February 2nd. Thanks for your understanding in this matter. Steve Arnold, PMH (Professional Meteorite Hunter) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE. Weird pic...Apollo 14
Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) An Ice cream trolley ?? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee
Hi Greg, Steve, Geoff and the entire list, I agree, Greg - if we are going to kick in our two cents on suggesting how the people's Choice Harvey will be handled - and I guess since it is The People's Choice, the people should have input into the process - KISS is absolutely right - I would add, I would like to see it limited to one person a year. That way 1) the original Harvey Awards are not diluted with multiple yearly People's Choice awards and 2) It will retain the highest possible significance Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael on 12/22/06 10:04 AM, Greg Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, Geoff, Mark, The People's Choice Award is pretty simple to figure out who would be a winner each year. Everyone, as a single person, has a single vote and should vote for someone (or pair, group, etc.) he or she thinks is deserving of the award. Simply add up the votes and whoever has the most, wins. I don't think it should require a round-table emergency meeting and rules to figure out. I suggested it last year, as Mark graciously pointed out earlier, as a fun thing to do and suggested Steve and Geoff since they would not nominate themselves for a well deserved award of their own. So, please do not make it a painful, political thing. As we learned long ago in business school, K.I.S.S., Keep It Simple Stupid. That is, do not ruin a fun thing with a bunch of rules. There can be 600 nominations and if one person has two votes and the rest only one, simple math, the majority of the People think so-and-so should get it. My thoughts... Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Peoples Choice Harvey Award Nominee Steve requested privately... I asked Michael to repost my email to you, him and the list that never made it to the list for some reason??? But would you do that for me, so the list can see what all I said? Steve Michael, Mark, List, To say that this week is the busiest week that both Geoff and I have had all year would probably be an understatement. Therefore I am sorry it has taken so long for either of us to write in on this topic. (After all, Mark's first post was made a whopping 23 hours ago). I have read the posts about the 2007 People's Choice Harvey Awards, as Geoff has (at least some of them). I took some time to chat with both Geoff and Anne Black a little tonight on the subject, and we have agreed that we need to have some type of rules put in place ASAP. At the very least we need to define how many nominations max (if there is a limit) there should be each year (last year there were 3 nominations), how the nomination process should work, how many awards there should be given each year (last year there were 3 given), and how the voting should be handled. Does everyone in the IMCA get a vote? Or everyone on the list? Or only the previous Harvey Award winners? Does anyone nominated automatically win? Or do we pass out ballots at the party and the vote is made, tabulated and announced all the evening of the awards? Then of course we need to decide if the results of the voting should be kept secret until the awards are given so that it would be a surprise, for both the winner(s) as well as the guests at the party? If only the previous Harvey Award winners get to vote, or if the vote is take at the party, then it might be possible to keep even those nominated a secret to doubly keep the results a surprise to the winner(s). Having given out a good number of Harvey Awards over the last few years, the feed back that comes back to Geoff and I more often than any other by the recipient is I didn't expect this at all, what a surprise and an honor it was. Personally, I feel we would cheat the recipient of this gift of surprise if the results were posted ahead of time publicly. Maybe there is no way to avoid this with the People's Choice, but I would hope there is. Of course, last year, since Geoff and I controlled the nominating and selection process, the only way to usurp our control was with an outright public rebellion. The surprise was gone for us by the party time, although the honor was still appreciated. With last year being unique, there really wasn't a choice on how it was done. However, for future People's Choice awards, we still do have some choices. Anyway, for formality sakes, I too agree to the nomination of Bernd! While I won't go so far as to say no one else in the world deserves to win a People's Choice Harvey more than Bernd does, because it is not my place to say that,
Re: [meteorite-list] RE. Weird pic...Apollo 14
Of course! It's the spacemens way of setting up dinner for Santa! DF Jan Bartels wrote: Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) An Ice cream trolley ?? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
Hi Michael, Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael Aha! Another Seinfeld fan! On this very list in the last 24 hours, two of the key Festivus activities have been exercised or planned: The Airing of Grievances and the Feats of Strength (e.g. Coliseum Duel). ;-) Happy Festivus to All, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14
What a great image. It's a masterpiece. I love the styrofoam packing on the lower right hand side. Bill -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:03:04 -0500To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14 Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Colorado weather - Conclusion
In a message dated 12/21/2006 10:21:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WOW, Anne, thanks for sharing the pictures. I literally have never seen so much snow. When I was in grad school in Athens, Georgia around 1986 or 1987 we had a snowstorm which dumped around three inches on the town. The whole town was paralyzed. Most roads were impassable, cars were stuck at the bottom of hills, news reports were filled with panicked residents who were snowed in and worried about getting food, etc. I think most of it melted the next day. Maybe two days. I guess Einstein was right. Everything is relative. Glad to hear you are safe. Stay warm. -Walter Branch --- It is melting now, we had a heat wave today, almost 40. But we might get a bit more tomorrow and again Monday. Yes, a white Christmas! :-( Contrary to popular belief, we don't get that much snow all that often. The last time was March 2003 when we got 31 inches in Denver. Usually we get short waves of snow, up to about 5-6 inches in a few hours and it is all gone 2 days later when the temperature is back up to 45-50. This is rather exceptional. The city is digging out, the Airport is partially re-open and the mailman did make his round today. On the funny side, I did see a guy skiing down the street yesterday, and I also saw one on a bicycle!! Have a great Green Christmas! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
A a Happy Festivus to you from the rest of us. Dave - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus Hi Michael, Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael Aha! Another Seinfeld fan! On this very list in the last 24 hours, two of the key Festivus activities have been exercised or planned: The Airing of Grievances and the Feats of Strength (e.g. Coliseum Duel). ;-) Happy Festivus to All, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14?
Hi, Kevin, List, Assuming you're talking about the blue streaks in the sky that are like UFO contrails, the note in the Image Library says of AS14-67-9384 (OF300): 117:25:32 View to the northeast of the Central Station and, at the left, the Passive Seismometer experiment. The blue streak at the upper left is undoubtedly a film defect. The Cone ridge is in the distance. When I saw the blue contrail, I thought it might even be an internal reflection in the lens (even though Hassy fans would be horrified at the suggestion), from the shiny pole on the foreground, perhaps. But they're probably right about it being a film defect. My guess is that it would be caused by a crease in the emulsion and carrier at those (very low) temperatures. The black area in the print is, of course, clear in the negative, so any defect would show up. Either that, or the pilots of the 8th Lunar UFO squadron were so careless as to engage their anti-proton afterburners within the sight of the Earthlings. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: kevin decker To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14 Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
Great idea! ... I'll go up to the attic and retrieve the pole. -Original Message- From: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 22, 2006 7:27 PM To: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus A a Happy Festivus to you from the rest of us. Dave - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus Hi Michael, Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael Aha! Another Seinfeld fan! On this very list in the last 24 hours, two of the key Festivus activities have been exercised or planned: The Airing of Grievances and the Feats of Strength (e.g. Coliseum Duel). ;-) Happy Festivus to All, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
Oh no, Aluminum scrap was up so high I had to scrap the pole, along with my bag of cans and my other bag of cans... So much for a secure retirement. Happy Festivus! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:56:09 -0600 (GMT-06:00) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus Great idea! ... I'll go up to the attic and retrieve the pole. -Original Message- From: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 22, 2006 7:27 PM To: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus A a Happy Festivus to you from the rest of us. Dave - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus Hi Michael, Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael Aha! Another Seinfeld fan! On this very list in the last 24 hours, two of the key Festivus activities have been exercised or planned: The Airing of Grievances and the Feats of Strength (e.g. Coliseum Duel). ;-) Happy Festivus to All, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
I concur with Norbert - great video, and a nice story to read in the latest issue of METEORITE, which I can only recommend to all those who did not already read it or are not subscribed to the magazine (PS: something you should think about to do if not yet done! I believe former editor and captain Joel Schiff would be satisfied with his ship rolling on nicely). May be such a 3D-rotation-view of a specimen, while still being quite an outstanding presentation right now at this time, will become sort of a standard in the near future. I just switched to a DSL flatline internet service with up to 16.000 Megabits/s, which you can get here in the bigger cities in Germany, and which downloads such a movie file in only a few seconds or even fractions of a second on the extreme end, making information quickly available at a rate unbelievable even in the recent past. Thank you Greg, for sharing this one, Alex Berlin/Germany Hi Greg, and All, That's one hell of a great video clip of an even more fascinating Mars rock - thanks for sharing it! Talking of NWA 4468: I also loved your recovery story, published in the November issue of METEORITE. If you don't have it, get it - it's a great read. All the best, and a very Merry Christmas to you all! Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
Yes, but... Where's the aluminum pole, the clock, the odd poetry, and the unidentified ethnic music? Weary of the rampant consumerism of Christmas, Frank Costanza invented an alternative holiday with unusual traditions. The offbeat holiday struck a chord with many viewers... Festivus actually predates 'Seinfeld' by 2300 years. In the 3rd century B.C., Roman comic poet Plautus used the Latin word Festivus to refer to the wild celebrations attended by average citizens cutting loose on religious holidays. Despite this early debut of Festivus, the holiday did not appear again until 1966 when the father of Daniel O'Keefe, future 'Seinfeld' writer, crafted a unique family holiday with untraditional practices such as the wrestling of the household head to the ground. Keefe introduced the holiday into 'Seinfeld' lore in 1997, and a cult phenomenon was born. According to Keefe, the only tradition that was made up by the show's writers was the decorated Festivus pole - everything else was taken directly from his family celebrations. The best part is that Costanza created the holiday in opposition to the commercialism of the holidays, but a quick Google shows that most national Festivus celebrations are SALES sponsored by groups of merchants or individual businesses, 40% off, two days only... Ya can't get more Seinfeld than that. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus Hi Michael, Hope everyone and their loved ones are having a great Christmas or Festivus, Michael Aha! Another Seinfeld fan! On this very list in the last 24 hours, two of the key Festivus activities have been exercised or planned: The Airing of Grievances and the Feats of Strength (e.g. Coliseum Duel). ;-) Happy Festivus to All, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14
I believe that this is a seismometer package--pretty sure by the grid in the background. The silver package on the left was a plutonium based(?) thermocouple powersupply(complete with an insulating blanket). I believe I read that the experiment is still transmitting. The streak ...well any Star Trek Fan( aka Trekie) knows that signature-- it is the Enterprise D jumping into Warp. Actually looks like a emulsion flaw else a light leak pre developing/processing. Really not sure except it wasn't in the original scene. Hummm isn't that a lunar meteorite in the foreground? Nagh...just a common moon rock...never mind. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Chladni's Heirs
Mine arrived today as well. Top notch all they way around - the specimen, the case, and the identification card. The detail on the specimen card/certificate of authenticity is amazing. Thanks Martin, Stefan, and Andi, Phil - Original Message - From: Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thanks Chladni's Heirs Martin, Stefan und Andi, I'dd like to say big thanks for the the NWA 4483 lunar sample. Just came in today and we love it!! (It seems we were one of the winners of the cachets, chatsets, chacets things boxes cases or whatever they will be calleddamn i'm so good in English!!) See ya guys in Tucson !! Will be though this time...I made a bet i'll be wearing wooden shoes during the whole show...auch!! Thanks, Jan Yvonne www.heavenlybodies.nl Meteorites... Close encounters of the best kind.. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian
Hi Norbert, Alex and List, Thank you both for the nice remarks. I made another video of NWA 4468 but with a larger view. It is about 40MB instead of 7MB like the first one I sent a link to. Here are the two different ones. The larger file will take a little longer to load but the video screen is larger: NWA 4468 3-D videos: 7MB http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi 40MB http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videored.avi Here is the one again for the 530 gram NWA 011 pairing I sent to the List a while back (NWA number will be assigned soon): http://www.lunarrock.com/gh-231/gh-231video.avi Gotta love technology! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Friday Fun - 3-D Video NWA 4468 Martian I concur with Norbert - great video, and a nice story to read in the latest issue of METEORITE, which I can only recommend to all those who did not already read it or are not subscribed to the magazine (PS: something you should think about to do if not yet done! I believe former editor and captain Joel Schiff would be satisfied with his ship rolling on nicely). May be such a 3D-rotation-view of a specimen, while still being quite an outstanding presentation right now at this time, will become sort of a standard in the near future. I just switched to a DSL flatline internet service with up to 16.000 Megabits/s, which you can get here in the bigger cities in Germany, and which downloads such a movie file in only a few seconds or even fractions of a second on the extreme end, making information quickly available at a rate unbelievable even in the recent past. Thank you Greg, for sharing this one, Alex Berlin/Germany Hi Greg, and All, That's one hell of a great video clip of an even more fascinating Mars rock - thanks for sharing it! Talking of NWA 4468: I also loved your recovery story, published in the November issue of METEORITE. If you don't have it, get it - it's a great read. All the best, and a very Merry Christmas to you all! Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Dear List, To start the holiday in the right direction, check out this 3-D video I made of NWA 4468, my new Martian meteorite on the cover of Meteorite Magazine. It is still being classified so the simple Shergottite classification isn't entirely accurate. I will announce the full classification within a couple weeks after some pertinent data reveals what the scientists will call it. 3-D video (please allow a minute to load, plays on Media Player, etc.) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468videoredsmall.avi Photo of complete slice http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4468/nwa4468slice.jpg I was going to wait to share these until I received the true classification but thought it would make for nice gift to all from me. Enjoy! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
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Re: [meteorite-list] RE. Weird pic...Apollo 14
Hi Kevin, Well that's an easy one... Ice Cream Trolley indeed. Ha! That's one of the Lunar Visitors Welcoming Committee's Hospitality Carts. I'm surprised there are no pictures of the comely Moon Girls handing out Moon Shine Juice and Cuban cigars (they're not banned on the moon, you know), with the cute little umbrellas in the glasses, to the crew of the Lunar Module. Judging from all the ribbons and clutter strewn about, this photo must have been taken after the party was finished. These areas have become known as strewn fields to many list members who are frequently seen crawling around in the mess on the morning after, looking for eyeglasses, apparel and other lost personal items. This picture must have been taken while Commander Shepard and Lunar Module Pilot Ed Mitchell were showing the Welcoming Committee Moon Girl Hostesses the finer points of the Lunar Module. The picture was taken at Fra Mauro which is known to be one of the better recreational areas and vacation spots on the Moon. That's just a short ways from Twin Cone Crater Resort which was [sort of] named after Twin Peaks from right here on earth. Small solar system, isn't it? One of the most challenging moon golf courses is located there at Twin Cone Crater Resort. There are three par 5's that are each over 11,000 yards. On the moon those fairways are normally played with a 3 iron or a 3 wood, depending on how strong and from what direction the photon force from solar flares is on any given lunar day. The pictures showing the Crew of the Apollo XIV Lunar Module frolicking with the Moon Girl Hostesses after imbibing a gallon or two of the moon famous Moon Shine Juice must surely be in the NASA photo archives somewhere. Keep looking, Kevin. If you can't find them, the threat of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit might kick them loose. Good luck with that. I'm certain that most MetCent List members would enjoy seeing them. Now who says our Space Program is a waste of money? I think a good 25% of our GNP should be directed towards the Manned Space Flight Program. The law enabling this could be titled The Manned Act, no relation to the previous Mann Act, of course, even though in coming years it would probably become applicable to space traffic from Earth, as well. I would volunteer in a heartbeat for the next mission. Wishing a very Merry Christmas and a great New Year to all, and/or: May the Moon Girl Hostesses Club Santa Assistants Group (probably very similar in organization to the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Association) stuff your stockings (or your shorts) with moon rocks and those little sample bottles of Moon Shine Juice. And to all a good night, Jerry Jan Bartels wrote: Hello,Anybody here care to help me figure out what's in this Photo in the Apollo 14 Archives?..I'm stumped..:http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a14/AS14-67-9384HR.jpg Thanks..Kevin...:) An Ice cream trolley ?? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14
Elton,List,It says that the Large Package is the Central Station,And the Silver hat shaped object is the Passive Seisometer experiment.What gets me is..there seems to be a blue glow on half of the passive seisometer approximate with the blue streaks in the moonsky.that tells me..it's really there?..Quote from the site."117:25:32 veiw to the northeast of the central station and,at the left,the passive seismometer experiment.the blue streak at the upper left is undoubtebly a film defect.the cone ridge is in the distance." From:Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:kevin decker [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject:Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14Date:Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:48:49 -0800 (PST)I believe that this is a seismometer package--prettysure by the grid in the background. The silver packageon the left was a plutonium based(?) thermocouplepowersupply(complete with an insulating blanket).Ibelieve I read that the experiment is stilltransmitting.The streak ...well any Star Trek Fan( aka Trekie)knows that signature--it is the Enterprise D jumpinginto Warp.Actually looks like a emulsion flaw else alight leak pre developing/processing.Really not sureexcept it wasn't in the original scene.Hummm isn't that a lunar meteorite in the foreground?Nagh...just a common moon rock...never mind.Elton Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14
I think the photo reveals the following: - Lower Right = worlds largest (or at least the moon's largest) pop corn popper - Mid Left = Lunar port-a-potty - moon horizon streaks = Festiclause dashing off at warp speed Best wishes, Michael on 12/22/06 6:48 PM, Mr EMan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that this is a seismometer package--pretty sure by the grid in the background. The silver package on the left was a plutonium based(?) thermocouple powersupply(complete with an insulating blanket). I believe I read that the experiment is still transmitting. The streak ...well any Star Trek Fan( aka Trekie) knows that signature-- it is the Enterprise D jumping into Warp. Actually looks like a emulsion flaw else a light leak pre developing/processing. Really not sure except it wasn't in the original scene. Hummm isn't that a lunar meteorite in the foreground? Nagh...just a common moon rock...never mind. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
