Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video
Dear Walter, As far as I remember it was not a vodeo of Tunguska but rather Sikhote Alin... Best wishes, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Didn't someone post to the list, I believe it was sometime last year, of a Russian made video with English subtitles that was a documentary of the first Kulik expedition to the Tunguska site? I can't seem to find it. I have the one for Sikhote-Alin but I thought there was another one on Tunguska. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
A transmigration as the result of a transpiration? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:12:31 +0100 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Hi List, I posted this image to the list a few years ago: http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/images/LongHorn.jpg So, what term can describe the tree root growing through the meteorite? ;-) It is a Sikhote-Alin. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:34 AM To: Bob WALKER Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Hey, This is supposed to be about a silly new generic term to describe meteorite struck trees, not a way to categorize those that have been. I smell a shameless sales promotion in the wind, lol. Bill Perhaps we should come up with a silly name for meteorites that hit trees then! ;-) Any suggestions welcome. axes not axis. Jerry Flaherty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:29:56 +1000 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SNOW in Tucson! Get ready to be cold.
http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/snow.JPG DAMN where is the hot desert weather ?? Are we flying to Alaska ? Let do the fair in Poland, there is weather like in April, hot and sunny. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Alleged Meteorites and Craters Found Near EgyptianPyramids
Hi I just posted link to the Polish meteorite list. Polish Met. Soc. will ask AGH Universiti what they found there. Especially this solid metalic objects sounds interesting. I will let You know -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tree trimmers
Hi Michael, One more...the most recentMoss! Carbonaceous like Mokoia too. I think one of the African ones was supposed to have fallen through a tree near a child as I remember...cant remember exactly which tho. I quite liked Geralds suggestion of 'Axes' as opposed to 'Hammers' but Tree trimmer is good too :-) Tunguska certainly took out a few trees eh?although technically it probably never hit a tree!!! Any other Tree trimmers/Axes out there? Dont think Barwell hit a treebut part of it did end up in a plant pot, after the road/roof and breaking the window! Regards Graham Ensor Nr Barwell Michael L Blood wrote: I can think of 3 of these tree trimmers, limb busters, branch breakers, arborites, sapsuckers, tree tilters, arbor-ate'ms, balsa bumpers, coniferous conkers, etc: 1) Sikhote-Aline 2) Mokoia 3) The grand daddy of them all, the yet to be identified Tunguska monster. Michael on 1/21/07 7:39 PM, Gerald Flaherty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we should come up with a silly name for meteorites that hit trees then! ;-) Any suggestions welcome. axes not axis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: ensoramanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Exciting New meteorite materialMokoia, Wairarapa and Alta Ameem __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SNOW in Tucson! Get ready to be cold.
Hi Michael, Snow in Tucson...cant believe it! So much for the Cabriolet we hired for our stay...thought we were going to get away from the cold UK weatherbetter pack the woolies. As you and several list members are from Tucson area...I have another question for our visit. My main profession is in Art and Design and apart from getting inspiration for designs from tne structure and makeup of meteorites and the research that goes with that, I am researching Native American imagery too. I am looking for places to visit which display their artwork and imagery. I did this in Australia and met several Aboriginal artists to see their work and discuss how they portray their world and the understanding of the Creation. I hope you see the conection here with studying our creation through Meteoritics. If you know of places to visit (or others on the list who may know) I would be most grateful for advice. Thanks for the weather warning. Best Regards Graham Ensor, Nr Barwell Uk Michael Farmer wrote: http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/snow.JPG Check out this photo I just took of my wife's car! It was snowing in Tucson for at least two hours this evening, even though it has stopped for now, it is still on the ground outside. I have lived in Tucson for the last 11 years and never seen snow stick like this. The show looks to be quite colder than years before. Everyone should bring proper clothing for almost any weather condition. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree, MORE
Ries/Steinheim! Has blown away a part of Bavaria and maybe also some trees... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michel FRANCO Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2007 08:10 An: Bob WALKER; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree, MORE M'Bale, tree plus kid. L'Aigle, many trees, fell in a small forest. my 2 cents Michel FRANCO www.caillou-noir.com Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hi, It all may hit them in the pocket to some degree. I have bid on many things that I would not have found without tracking back through bidders or have been informed about after loosing an auction. I have never found that being contacted by an ebayer with a link to other similar pieces has been a problem...just a help!! Graham Nicholas Gessler wrote: Thanks Mike, I'll put Rob Chesnut on my schist list and look forward to getting him to talk about more than his bottom line. He provides the typical top-down PR line of BS. Nowhere does he say anything about diminishing the community of buyers and bidders who once actually talked to one another and encouraged each other to build a viable online marketplace. Let's see how long it takes Second Life to build an auction house... Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
Hi Sergey, What a great picture...a work of art...looks like something Picasso made. More of case of a tree hitting a meteorite tho...very slowly! Just as a wind up for those that think this is another promotion ploy for certain meteoritesperhaps someone should make up a nice promotional set of Tree Trimmers/ Axes displayed nicely embedded in a splintered wooden display case!! ;-) Perhaps I should never have started this thread!...sorry Regards Graham Sergey Vasiliev wrote: Hi List, I posted this image to the list a few years ago: http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/images/LongHorn.jpg So, what term can describe the tree root growing through the meteorite? ;-) It is a Sikhote-Alin. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:34 AM To: Bob WALKER Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Hey, This is supposed to be about a silly new generic term to describe meteorite struck trees, not a way to categorize those that have been. I smell a shameless sales promotion in the wind, lol. Bill Perhaps we should come up with a silly name for meteorites that hit trees then! ;-) Any suggestions welcome. axes not axis. Jerry Flaherty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:29:56 +1000 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
Could someone please tell me about this NEW arizona meteorite called BOUSE?I have seen it on ebay and have also seen a couple list members having specimens.It seems to be the real deal.What is the skinny on this one? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] McNaught finally visible from Melbourne, Australia!
G'day all, FINALLY!!! After more than a week of bad viewing conditions we got a clear sky and WOW.. what a sight! What a truly amazing thing to see! I took a few images but I think I may need to be more prepared and pull out my old clunky SLR to get some better shots if the opportunity presents itself again! ;-) www.meteorites.com.au/oddsends/McNaught.html Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
Well Steve, if it is on eBay, then I would assume that all of the information is available on ebay. Since a new chondrite from Arizona is no longer a big deal, the community here is not exactly buzzing about the Bouse meteorite. Good morning from a very cold and white Tucson! Let the fun begin, as I am setting up my room at the Inn Suites today. Michael Farmer --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please tell me about this NEW arizona meteorite called BOUSE?I have seen it on ebay and have also seen a couple list members having specimens.It seems to be the real deal.What is the skinny on this one? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SNOW in Tucson! Get ready to be cold.
There is no shortage of Art in Tucson. As far as mixing art and Native American traditions, you should vist San Javier del Bac, the old mission church here, Catholic, but eavy in native traditions, almost 400 years old. The University of Arizona has an impressive Native american art museum and a seperate arheological museum full of beautiful artifacts. Phoenix has the world renouned HEARD museum, 150 km from Tucson, 1.5 hour drive, incredible museum dedicated to artefacts and modern Native art. Mike Farmer Don't worry too much about the cold, it seems that by Friday it should be back to shorts weather in the daytime, sunny skies forcast after tomorrow. --- ensoramanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, Snow in Tucson...cant believe it! So much for the Cabriolet we hired for our stay...thought we were going to get away from the cold UK weatherbetter pack the woolies. As you and several list members are from Tucson area...I have another question for our visit. My main profession is in Art and Design and apart from getting inspiration for designs from tne structure and makeup of meteorites and the research that goes with that, I am researching Native American imagery too. I am looking for places to visit which display their artwork and imagery. I did this in Australia and met several Aboriginal artists to see their work and discuss how they portray their world and the understanding of the Creation. I hope you see the conection here with studying our creation through Meteoritics. If you know of places to visit (or others on the list who may know) I would be most grateful for advice. Thanks for the weather warning. Best Regards Graham Ensor, Nr Barwell Uk Michael Farmer wrote: http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/snow.JPG Check out this photo I just took of my wife's car! It was snowing in Tucson for at least two hours this evening, even though it has stopped for now, it is still on the ground outside. I have lived in Tucson for the last 11 years and never seen snow stick like this. The show looks to be quite colder than years before. Everyone should bring proper clothing for almost any weather condition. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SNOW in Tucson! Get ready to be cold. NOT
Hi From (usually) warm and sunny Tucson. First the good news: It should be lows around 40 F (4 or 5 C) and highs around 70 (20 C) and sunny by the weekend with little chance of rain. That said, here is the webcam picture from the University of Arizona campus. http://www.cs.arizona.edu/camera/ If you could see the mountains, they would be covered with snow (that is what we can see from our kitchen window), however, as I keep looking at the updated picture, it is getting clearer. What is unusual is that it snowed (2 inches) down town, but up where I live, north of town and about 100 ft (35 meters) higher, we got almost nothing. By the time it got cold enough, it had stopped raining (but I cannot through the trash out because the lid to our trash can is frozen shut). So, I predict (ha, it was supposed to be sunny yesterday) that we will have perfect weather for all of you when you get to Tucson. I look forward to seeing many of you here. Start thinking about articles that you would like to write for Meteorite magazine (or what you would like to see in the magazine). Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
Hello Nick, Moni and All, This new policy also prevents anyone (except Ebay) from tracking shill bidders. Years ago, when Ebay had a more open attitude and their clientele had access to more information, it was pretty easy to catch shill bidders red-handed. Now, unfortunately, that will be impossible to do with the names of bidders kept secret. The folks at Ebay won't have to deal with as many complaints from honest bidders (buyers) because they won't know when a dishonest seller is jacking up the bid. Something to think about. Best to all from snowy Arizona, John Gwilliam At 10:02 PM 1/21/2007, Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge wrote: Hi Nick and list, I agree. I like to see also who was the highest bidder and who bid. There are a couple of meteorites that I have and I could offer a person who lost the bid. In case of the same classification that is. If there is a way to write to them let me know too. With best regards, Moni From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:35:14 -0800 Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donationFORM=WLMTAG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=35487 Here's some info on Bouse. Devin Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Steve, if it is on eBay, then I would assume that all of the information is available on ebay. Since a new chondrite from Arizona is no longer a big deal, the community here is not exactly buzzing about the Bouse meteorite. Good morning from a very cold and white Tucson! Let the fun begin, as I am setting up my room at the Inn Suites today. Michael Farmer --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please tell me about this NEW arizona meteorite called BOUSE?I have seen it on ebay and have also seen a couple list members having specimens.It seems to be the real deal.What is the skinny on this one? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
Hi Graham, This meteorite reminds me a lot of people (including Picasso). They all (people and meteorite) were made by nature at the very beginning. ;-) I'm not including my digital signature to this email and I did not do it in previous email too knowing the subject Meteorite List- Polite Request. Everybody knows my website www.sv-meteorites.com anyway. ;- Thanks! Sergey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ensoramanda Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:25 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Hi Sergey, What a great picture...a work of art...looks like something Picasso made. More of case of a tree hitting a meteorite tho...very slowly! Just as a wind up for those that think this is another promotion ploy for certain meteoritesperhaps someone should make up a nice promotional set of Tree Trimmers/ Axes displayed nicely embedded in a splintered wooden display case!! ;-) Perhaps I should never have started this thread!...sorry Regards Graham Sergey Vasiliev wrote: Hi List, I posted this image to the list a few years ago: http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/images/LongHorn.jpg So, what term can describe the tree root growing through the meteorite? ;-) It is a Sikhote-Alin. Best regards, Sergey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:34 AM To: Bob WALKER Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Hey, This is supposed to be about a silly new generic term to describe meteorite struck trees, not a way to categorize those that have been. I smell a shameless sales promotion in the wind, lol. Bill Perhaps we should come up with a silly name for meteorites that hit trees then! ;-) Any suggestions welcome. axes not axis. Jerry Flaherty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:29:56 +1000 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
I haven't stayed in the loop with all the successful western meteorite hunters in the past two years. But, I'm still aware that there are close to 10 new meteorites found that haven't been announced. Here's why. Meteorite hunters have found out the hard way that announcing their finds and submitting them for classification early on can cause a meteorite rush. One of the pieces of information that is required at the time a new meteorites is submitted for classification is the location of the find. With most meteorite hunters now using GPS units to marks their finds, this location is now defined in feet rather than the vague location of the nearest landmark, usually a town. Now, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that some meteorite hunters might fudge on the actual location a bit to protect their find site. Even if the coords given are a mile off, that can still put competing meteorite hunters in the general area. Once there, they can put other skills to good use in locating the general search area pretty well. Anyone who hunted in Gold Basin and Franconia early on saw how fast an area with meteorites fills up with hunters. The diehard meteorite hunters are the first to arrive and it doesn't take too long for anyone else with a metal detector to show up. Succssful meteorite hunters have got smart and have learned to keep their mouths shut until they're pretty certain they have found all, or most, of the meteorites. Best, John Gwilliam At 08:08 AM 1/22/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=35487 Here's some info on Bouse. Devin Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Steve, if it is on eBay, then I would assume that all of the information is available on ebay. Since a new chondrite from Arizona is no longer a big deal, the community here is not exactly buzzing about the Bouse meteorite. Good morning from a very cold and white Tucson! Let the fun begin, as I am setting up my room at the Inn Suites today. Michael Farmer --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please tell me about this NEW arizona meteorite called BOUSE?I have seen it on ebay and have also seen a couple list members having specimens.It seems to be the real deal.What is the skinny on this one? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tree trimmers
Hi Graham, It was a 3g Mbale which crashed through a banana tree before striking a kid, making it both a tree trimmer and a hammer. (That fall also struck village structures). See the blurb on this under 1992 at http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html Best wishes, Michael on 1/22/07 2:28 AM, ensoramanda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, One more...the most recentMoss! Carbonaceous like Mokoia too. I think one of the African ones was supposed to have fallen through a tree near a child as I remember...cant remember exactly which tho. I quite liked Geralds suggestion of 'Axes' as opposed to 'Hammers' but Tree trimmer is good too :-) Tunguska certainly took out a few trees eh?although technically it probably never hit a tree!!! Any other Tree trimmers/Axes out there? Dont think Barwell hit a treebut part of it did end up in a plant pot, after the road/roof and breaking the window! Regards Graham Ensor Nr Barwell Michael L Blood wrote: I can think of 3 of these tree trimmers, limb busters, branch breakers, arborites, sapsuckers, tree tilters, arbor-ate'ms, balsa bumpers, coniferous conkers, etc: 1) Sikhote-Aline 2) Mokoia 3) The grand daddy of them all, the yet to be identified Tunguska monster. Michael on 1/21/07 7:39 PM, Gerald Flaherty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we should come up with a silly name for meteorites that hit trees then! ;-) Any suggestions welcome. axes not axis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: ensoramanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Exciting New meteorite materialMokoia, Wairarapa and Alta Ameem __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a meteorite ID
Tom list, Go here to see Tom's fascinating meteorite: http://community.webshots.com/album/557144562QdwfqC Best wishes, Michael on 1/21/07 7:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I'm not trying to classify a meteorite with photos, but I have a very unusual meteorite that I would welcome any thoughts on. For those who like this stuff, it is fun. I plan to send it in for classification but I just cut it today and am really wondering. I can't post pics to the list but if you would email me that you would take a look, I'll send photos. I have seen a lot of meteorites under the scope and this is new to me. Tom Phillips __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day
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Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
Honolulu -- the strewnfield extended up the Nuuanu Valley, which even now has plenty of trees (and now, houses). It might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. I believe my chip came from pieces that went home with a Russian trader at the time. Tracy Latimer From: Michel FRANCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bob WALKER [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:00:36 +0100 Sikhote Alin ! many trees. Michel FRANCO www.cailou-noir.com Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095tcode=wlmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
Hi all, I'm quite sure that there is more than 10 new Arizona meteorite finds. I have 5 (possibly) new Meteorite finds currently being studied at several Universities (UCLA, ASU etc..) I also have many more meteorite finds that I have yet to submit, some of which I've posted here. I'm sure that there are a few meteorite hunters like myself that are in no hurry to classify. Just yesterday I took newbie Meteorite Hunter Mike Morgan out and we found 4 New Arizona Meteorites! Of course they will need to be classified to know for sure if they are unique, but I think 1 or more will be. I'll post pictures on my website later today for those that want to see pictures of that hunt. Ruben Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tree trimmers
Don't forget Ivuna in Tanganyika. It was recovered from a tree by a german expat! 2 more peices were seen to hit the salt flat, the German drove a stake in the ground meaning to come back and look for them later. Regretably before he got returned to the site, WWII began and the British incarcerated him. -mt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] bouse,arizona
Dear Lucky Ruben; Ever think of visiting Wyoming? I am silent about my new finds.. Dave F. :-0 Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, I'm quite sure that there is more than 10 new Arizona meteorite finds. I have 5 (possibly) new Meteorite finds currently being studied at several Universities (UCLA, ASU etc..) I also have many more meteorite finds that I have yet to submit, some of which I've posted here. I'm sure that there are a few meteorite hunters like myself that are in no hurry to classify. Just yesterday I took newbie Meteorite Hunter Mike Morgan out and we found 4 New Arizona Meteorites! Of course they will need to be classified to know for sure if they are unique, but I think 1 or more will be. I'll post pictures on my website later today for those that want to see pictures of that hunt. Ruben Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Why is Gujba not in the Catalogue?
It shouldn't take longer than 16 years for a publication to get caught up, don't you think? Can anybody shed some light on this for me? Hello Lance and List, But this is what probably happened. My database records tell me that Gujba was published in the Meteoritical Bulletin #85, July 2001, one year after the publication of Monicas Grady's Catalogue (5th edition). Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a meteorite ID
Hi Michael/Tom What a strange mix...never seen anything quite like it...looks like a collection from around the whole solar system all in one meteorite. Can't wait to find out what the verdict is. Beautiful ...speaks of a facinating history to end up with that vaiety in one matrix. Hope it turns out to ne something new...good luck! Graham Ensor, Nr Barwell UK. Michael L Blood wrote: Tom list, Go here to see Tom's fascinating meteorite: http://community.webshots.com/album/557144562QdwfqC Best wishes, Michael on 1/21/07 7:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I'm not trying to classify a meteorite with photos, but I have a very unusual meteorite that I would welcome any thoughts on. For those who like this stuff, it is fun. I plan to send it in for classification but I just cut it today and am really wondering. I can't post pics to the list but if you would email me that you would take a look, I'll send photos. I have seen a lot of meteorites under the scope and this is new to me. Tom Phillips __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] boom goes the dynamite
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11001-exploding-robots-may-scout-hazardous-asteroids.html Exploding robots may scout hazardous asteroids 12:24 22 January 2007 NewScientist.com news service David Shiga A fleet of exploding probes could prepare the way for warding off hazardous asteroids. Several of the small spherical robots would land on a single asteroid, some exploding while others listen for vibrations that could reveal the object's inner structure. NASA has a list of more than 800 asteroids considered to be potentially hazardous because their orbits carry them close to Earth's. If one of them is found to be on a collision course, knowing its physical properties will be crucial in devising a mission to divert it. If the asteroid is a single chunk of rock, an engine could be attached to the surface to pull or push it off its catastrophic course. But that will not work if the asteroid is merely a collection of smaller rocks loosely bound together by gravity, like the one visited by Japan's Hayabusa spacecraft (see Rubbly Itokawa revealed as 'impossible' asteroid). A gravity tractor would work better in that case, with a spacecraft simply hovering nearby and using its own gravity to nudge the asteroid off course (see 'Gravity tractor' to deflect Earth-bound asteroids). Small and cheap However, little is known for certain about the structure of asteroids because none has ever had its interior probed. Now, a group of scientists and engineers have designed a robotic probe small and cheap enough that a fleet of them could be sent to investigate a near-Earth asteroid's composition and structure. Dennis Ebbets of Ball Aerospace in Boulder, Colorado, US, presented the concept on 7 January at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Seattle, Washington, US. As many as six of the 12-kilogram probes could be loaded on a single spacecraft, which could be launched at relatively low cost to rendezvous with the asteroid. Out with a bang The main spacecraft would stay a few dozen kilometres away, perhaps nudging the probes towards the asteroid using springs. Once on the surface, the protective spherical shell of each probe would open to allow the probe to scan the surface nearby. To reduce complexity and costs, the probes lack solar panels and run on battery power, limiting their lifetime to a few days. But each probe could still cover a lot of ground in that time, as they could be fitted with small thrusters to let them hop across the surface. Eventually the probes could detonate onboard explosives, sacrificing themselves for science one by one. Probes that had not yet detonated would listen for any seismic waves sent rippling out from the explosion, and the main spacecraft could observe the craters left behind. That would tell scientists about the asteroid's strength and internal structure. Launch and learn If funding can be secured for the probes, they and the host spacecraft could be built in two or three years. The team has identified several near-Earth asteroids that would make good targets, including an asteroid a few dozen metres across called 2003 WP25, which could be reached by 2011. Asteroid expert Daniel Durda of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado, US, approves of the idea. These small probes are the way to go, he told New Scientist. They're cheaper, you can launch more of them, and the more you launch the more you learn. But he says the failure of Japan's small Minerva probe to land on the asteroid Itokawa after being released from its parent spacecraft Hayabusa in 2005 shows that landing on an asteroid is tricky (see Robot asteroid-explorer is lost in space). It's not simple with a bumpy, quickly rotating object to drop something on the surface, Durda says. Ebbets says mission controllers would need to be very careful in getting the probes to land. You have to have a pretty good mathematical model of the gravitational field of the object in order to release your probe at the right time and in the right direction, he notes. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day = Brenham slice withunusual inclusion - part 2
Tett wrote: Thank you for the research and the comprehensive answer. It is a pleasure learning from you! Thank you for these kind words! Tett continues: The swathing kamacite sounds like it might be the case here. Last night I got a mail from a Canadian meteorite collector who wondered if I had or knew of a probable classification for the Brenham slices now on the Internet. Difficult question. According to the current literature, it should be close to the IIIAB irons and the MAPS article that David Weir references (Honda et al., 2002) on his website, mentions this: The metallic fraction of this meteorite has also been identified as Hopewell Mounds, a medium octahedrite, IIIA, with olivine inclusions ..but: David's website and the on-line database of the Met.Society also clearly state that this meteorite is anomalous in several respects - for example its anomalous metal composition. Maybe this anomalous metal composition is the answer to the following piece of information I found regarding its phosphorus content. Yesterday I had written: one may conclude that Brenham has an appreciable amount (above ca. 0.4% P - according to Buchwald) of phosphorus. Otherwise we wouldn't see those ... long, needles of schreibersite with their seams of swathing kamacite. .. and here is what I found in Kunz et al. 1890: The following analyses of the Kiowa meteorites were made by Mr. L.G. Eakins in the laboratory of the United States Geological Survey: ... P = 0.14% ... Hmm, ... much too low but these Brezina lamellae are there (provided they are what I think they are!). Two ways out here: Either Mr. L.G. Eakins's data are outdated or imprecise or it's because of Brenham's anomalous metal composition. Any thoughts from those who own these gorgeous slices? Mike Miller, Geoff Notkin, Steve Arnold, and others? References: HONDA M. et al. (2002) Cosmogenic nuclides in the Brenham pallasite (MAPS 37-12, 2002, pp. 1711-1728). WASSON J.T.et al. (2002) Main-group pallasites: Relationship to IIIAB irons, role of magmatic gases (MAPS 37-7, 2002, A147). KUNZ G.F. (1890) On five new American Meteorites (The American Journal of Science, Volume 140, 1890, Art. XLII, pp. 312-318). To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunting in Antarctica
http://www.jhu.edu/~gazette/2007/22jan07/22meteor.html Meteorite Hunting in Antarctica APL staffers brave the elements to gather space rocks for researchers By Hayley Brown Applied Physics Laboratory The JHU Gazette January 22, 2007 | Vol. 35 No. 18 Some APL staffers will go to the ends of the Earth and back in the name of science. Take, for example, Nancy Chabot, Ben Bussey, Cari C orrigan and Andrew Dombard, all of whom have spent time in Antarctica collecting meteorites as part of the Antarctic Search for Meteorites program, known as ANSMET. ANSMET, which is funded by the National Science Foundation's Office of Polar Programs and NASA, aims to find and characterize meteorite samples in Antarctica and make those samples available to researchers worldwide. Since its inception in 1976, ANSMET has provided the scientific community with more than 15,000 meteorite specimens. These samples are a unique way to study outer space without actually leaving the planet, and they can offer important clues about the formation of the solar system and the compositions and histories of asteroids and other planetary bodies. Antarctica is uncommonly fertile ground for meteorite hunting; about 85 percent of all meteorites recovered worldwide are found there. In some areas, the Antarctic ice sheet, nearly two miles thick, effectively buries the continent and allows little to no accumulation of indigenous sediment, which means that any rocks found on the surface are likely extraterrestrial. They are easy to spot because they contrast starkly with the homogeneously icy landscape. Antarctica's ice flow acts as a natural concentration mechanism. As the ice sheet creeps across the continent, it occasionally bumps into mountain ranges and other obstructions beneath the ice. When strong winds strike such areas, they remove large accumulations of snow and ice, exposing clusters of meteorites on the surface. Individual ANSMET missions last eight weeks - six spent looking for meteorites, with a week at either end for preparation and cleanup. The journey to Antarctica begins in New Zealand, where travelers assemble their gear, and the flight out of this subtropical paradise can be as treacherous as Antarctica itself, attests Dombard, a scientist in the Space Department's Planetary Exploration Group. We were packed in like sardines for seven hours, and it was very noisy, he said. It's especially uncomfortable if the weather is bad. When I went, it took us four tries to get down there, with Antarctic weather canceling the flight or forcing the plane to turn back to New Zealand after making it halfway. The sojourn in Antarctica has its own hazards. That's why researchers participate in a two-day survival school, learning how to cope with the inhospitable climate and how to execute a rescue if something goes wrong. Chabot, also a scientist in the Planetary Exploration Group, has visited Antarctica five times. We would wake up, eat breakfast in the tent, dress warm and get prepared for the day, with plenty of sunscreen - the sun is up 24 hours a day in the summer season, she said about the start of a typical day. Then each member of the team would get on a snowmobile and travel to the ice field to search for meteorites. This usually involved driving up and down in systematic grids to cover the ice area, stopping whenever they found a meteorite. Some days were slow, Chabot said, and we'd find less than 10 meteorites. But other days, we collected more than 100 in one day. Lunch usually consisted of beef sticks and beef jerky and lots of chocolate. The team would get back to camp before 6 p.m., fuel the snowmobiles, catalog and record the meteorites of the day, melt ice for water, cook dinner and read a book or play a game before trying to get a good night's sleep. Being out in the cold constantly takes a lot out of you, and you need lots of sleep, Chabot said. Temperatures were generally 14 to minus-4 degrees Fahrenheit, without wind chill considerations. Even with the inherent hazards and obstacles, the scientists say the trip is worth the risks. It's such a unique opportunity, Chabot said. You deal with being cold, being dirty and other hardships. But when you go outside and look around, it's so beautiful, it just puts everything else into perspective. This article first appeared in The APL News. Its writer, Haley Brown, served as an intern in APL's Office of Communications and Public Affairs. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Alaskan Geologist Studies Chicxulub Impact Crater
http://www.uaf.edu/news/headlines/20070117095149.html UAF geologist studies Chicxulub impact crater By Melissa Hart University of Alaska, Fairbanks January 17, 2007 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE About 65 million years ago, a massive disruption led to worldwide extinction of dinosaurs. The impact of a giant asteroid created massive tsunamis and spewed forth a global cloud of carbon gases that altered Earth's atmosphere and blocked the light for weeks, possibly years. In recent years, that impact event has been linked to a 112-mile-wide crater, dubbed Chicxulub, on the coast of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Since its discovery in the 1980s, the Chicxulub crater has left its own impact on sky-watchers and sci-fi fans worldwide, and impact events have been depicted in Hollywood films such as Armageddon and Deep Impact, as well as countless artistic renditions. Despite the spotlight on the theories surrounding the impact, Michael Whalen, associate professor of geology at University of Alaska Fairbanks, has managed to stay out of the limelight, yet into the limestone with his work sampling the core of the crater. Due to the efforts of Buck Sharpton, UAF vice chancellor for research, Whalen became part of an international effort to correlate seismic data with information obtained from a drill hole that reaches more than 1.2 miles deep, through the impact layer and beyond. Interestingly enough, unlike other more noticeable craters, the Chicxulub crater spent 55 million years in virtual obscurity, due to the fast infilling that masked its presence. Speedy recovery, which by geologists' standards amounts to about 10 million years, preserved the crater by mantling it with sediment, attracting geologists like Whalen, who studies the effects of extinction events on carbonate layers, also known as limestone, and the organisms that make up those layers. On Jan. 20, Whalen will be traveling with a team to the Chicxulub site for a week to obtain more core samples in order to get a better understanding of how the crater filled in and how the earth itself recovered from the massive impact. He's also part of an ongoing collaboration that is trying to secure funding to drill two more holes in the crater, one offshore and one through the peak ring. CONTACT: Michael Whalen, associate professor, geology and geophysics, at (907) 474-5302 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melissa Hart, public pelations assistant, Geophysical Institute, at (907) 474-7853 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Note to editors: Photos are available upon request. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Questions about the Tucson Show from a first timer
Howdy Fellow Listees, This year will be my first visit to the Tucson show, and I have some questions. I have the meteorite-times.com show guide, which has been very valuable. [I have a hotel in Green Valley (Baymont Inn, 25 miles south of the InnSuites) and a rental car] 1) Is parking at the InnSuites Hotel an issue? Is there a charge for parking there? 2) Where can I find the bins of unclassified NWAs by the pound that I have been dreaming/obsessing about? Will there be bins ranging from gravel to mostly crusted stones? What might the price range be this year?? Is there - is there balm in Gilead? 3) What is the traffic on I-19 like and what time is morning 'rush hour' etc? 4) Show hours are listed as 10AM to 6PM, is this accurate? All the talk about parties and margaritas and... well you get the point, are the meteorite dealers open by 10AM? 5) What show/location might be displaying small diamond saws? I want to buy an AmeriTool variable speed or something similar, but would like to get a look in person at the rock vice etc. Also Adam Hupe had mentioned an outfit selling really good thin kerf diamond blades at a show in Puyallup, WA. This guy was supposed to be at Tucson. Does this ring a bell? That's probably enough questions for now. I hope the answers to these questions will be of general interest to other list readers as well. Best Regards, Pat Brown 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Ataxite Iron - Dumont
This is the official info release of a new iron. I identified this on a West Texas Trip in February 2005. It took a year of negotiating with the rancher before I got my paws on it. Trip info at http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/west_texas.html The iron masses 42.27 kg. Named the DUMONT (provisional). It is an IVB ataxite. There are less than a dozen IVB irons known. According to Dr Wasson - 16.2% Ni It belongs to the high-Ir, low-Au, low-Ni subset of group IVB. The other members of this subgroup are Iquique, Tlacotepec, Gallipoli[prov.] and Cape of Good Hope. I'll be in Tucson at Inn Suites room 230. I will have a few slices in Tucson, but not many, I was a putz and didn't get many done in time. -mt IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
I reviewed the little I had regarding the Honolulu fall, and have to make a retraction -- or maybe a redirection. Although my material cannot confirm whether any fragments struck ships at anchor in the harbor, several did fall on and around the mission house settlement by the harbor, one striking coral rock, which was commonly used for construction of walls and houses. Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine; it said that sailors from the Russian frigate Predpriatie took meteoric fragments back to Russia with them. I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Apparently they instead collected them on the mission house grounds and brought them aboard. My small piece at least has that likely provenance! Tracy Latimer From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:17:38 -0800 Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer _ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Definition of Hammer
I read somewhere that a Hammer in the meteorite world came from a meteorite striking: H = Human A = Animal M = Man- M = Made E = ? R = ? Or did I just make that up? If it's true, does anyone know what the E and R stand for? Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: LOTS OF NWAs ON EBAY
Its nice to have meteorites again and I am finally getting a few on ebay. I have well over 200 meteorites now in my ebay auctions and my store items and lots more will get added over the next few days. Everything from 99 cent starting specimens to large two kilo plus pieces started under 4.5 cents a gram. My ebay user id is AMUNRE I have lots of uninteresting stuff but see this link which shows my meteorite auctions only. http://search.stores.ebay.com/AMUNRE-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_meteorite_W0QQfciZ12QQfclZ3QQfsnZAMUNREQ20COLLECTIBLESQ20ANDQ20GEMSTONESQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ1598024QQsofpZ0 Link might be to long but if you look at my ebay id, then click the store you can click meteorites and just see meteorites Cheers DEAN BESSEY www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on ebay TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - eBay Auctions Ending NWA 4293 Individuals
I have 64 individual NWA 4293 meteorite auctions ending on eBay in a bit over 22 hours. Most are still at their opening bid price of 99 cents. You can view all of my auctions at the following link; http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZgkfoote0pki Or you can search via my eBay username, gkfoote0pki . Thanks for looking at these newly classified individuals. Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Hi, Tracy, Michael, List, I know of only one confirmed hit on a ship: TAHARA (JAPAN) H5 1991 The meteorite was found on deck of the ship M.S. Century-Highway No. 1, which was loading cars in the T-3 berth on Toyota-pier at Toyohashi harbour (Tahara district). When the crew came back from lunch after 12:00, they found meteorite fragments spread out from two impact dents in the steel deck, the largest measuring 20 x 6.5 cm and 3 cm depth, the smaller 17cm away from it. From the size of the impact dent the total weight was estimated to more than 5kg, but most of it was thrown into the ocean by the cleaning crew, only about 1 kg are preserved. No sound was heard accompanying the fall, but during car loading it was very noisy. Keep that cleaning crew away from meteorites. Send'em over to my house. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu I reviewed the little I had regarding the Honolulu fall, and have to make a retraction -- or maybe a redirection. Although my material cannot confirm whether any fragments struck ships at anchor in the harbor, several did fall on and around the mission house settlement by the harbor, one striking coral rock, which was commonly used for construction of walls and houses. Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine; it said that sailors from the Russian frigate Predpriatie took meteoric fragments back to Russia with them. I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Apparently they instead collected them on the mission house grounds and brought them aboard. My small piece at least has that likely provenance! Tracy Latimer From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:17:38 -0800 Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 1866 Shergotty Meteorite NPA
Paper: The Adams Sentinel City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Tuesday, March 6, 1866 Page: 3 (of 4) A recent number of the Caleutta Gazette contains an account of an aerolite, which fell at Shergotty on the 25th August last. A native, who witnessed its fall, states that about 9, A. M. a stone fell from the heavens, accompanied by a very loud report, burying itself in the earth knee-deep, and at the same time the sky was cloudy and of a murky color, the air calm, and no rain. The stone has been forwarded by the Government to the Asiatic Society of Bengal. (end) PDF copy of this article us available upon e-mail request. The NPA in the subject line stands for Newspaper Article. The old list server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas http://www.meteoritearticles.com http://www.imca.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Canon City Meteorite - Huss 1973 NPA
Hello all, I have a couple other Canon City NPA's on my website. This however is the first one I have seen that tells the name/color of the cat and gives details on the impact itself. (Good Huss.) Clear Skies, Mark Paper: The Argus City: Fremont, California Date: Friday, November 9, 1973 Page: 14 Meteorite came 60 million miles DENVER (UPI) - Scientists said Thursday a three-pound meteorite that crashed through the roof of a private garage in southern Colorado originated in an asteroid belt 60 million miles from earth. The asteroids banged together and broke off pieces into a very elliptical orbit around the sun, said Glenn Huss, director of the American Meteorite Laboratory. This just banged into us. The chunk of rock hit the Canon City garage Oct. 27, ripping a six-inch hole in the roof and scaring a calico housecat named Misty behind a pile of old furniture, Huss said. He said the meteorite must have sounded like a rifle shot. I'm sure she (the cat) got peppered with fragments. The only thing we didn't do was vacuum Misty's fur. Huss said the object was the most highly crystallized meteorite we've ever seen.'' He said the rock shattered into more than 57 fragments from the impact- and pieces were sent to the Chicago Natural History Museum for analysis. Huss said the meteorite was composed primarily of magnesium olivine, iron pure pyroxene and crystallized troilite. He said it was traveling about 5** mile; an hour when it struck the garage carving a two-inch gash on the concrete floor. Huss said the meteorite was the third witness fall in Colorado history. The name is given for a meteor observed as it drops earthward or is discovered shortly after landing. The first occurred near Johnstown, Colo., in 1927. In 1967, a 2 ½ pound meteorite smashed through a warehouse in, Denver. Huss said that the meteorite once was part of an asteroid swarm - the name given to chunks of rock formed by disintegration eons ago in space. (end) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Results of unknown help request
Hi List, Tom Phillips again. Wow, what a response to the request for help in identifying a meteorite I posted to the list. Thanks to every one and especially Michael Blood (He posted the pics to his photo site and notified the List). The consensus was H-IMB or High Iron - Impact Melt Breccia - Chondrite. Almost everyone who offered an opinion said IMB. I hope this was fun. I realize this is just a collection of opinions from photos. So don't worry, you won't see it for sale as a classified IMB (unless it has been classified). Thanks again for all the input. What a great group Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kenna Meteorite - Ivan Wilson 1978 NPA
Paper: The News City: Frederick, Maryland Date: Monday, November 13, 1978 Page: C-15 PORTALES, N.JI. (NBA) - In 1968, while searching a field for Indian artifacts, Ivan Wilson came across a large rock that caught his fancy. It seemed different, he recalls, and indeed it was. When Wilson hauled the boulder home he found he had a 28-pound meteorite, come from millions of miles away. That find proved to be the first of many for Wilson. In the 10 years since, he has located more than 90 primordial stones, at least 75 of them separate and distinct from one another. So far as anyone can tell, this makes Ivan Wilson the champion meteorite hunter in the history of the world. Wilson's title is not official. International researchers have recently been finding astonishing numbers of meteorites on the ice at Antarctica. A team led by Professor William Cassidy of the University of Pittsburgh, for example, has found more than 300 stones; Japanese hunters have uncovered nearly 1,000. But unless one of the researchers issues a challenge, private citizen Wilson is the nonpareil. His nearest known competitor has found less than 20 stones. Wilson's cache, in fact, represents almost three percent of the 3,000 individual meteorites that have been recorded through the ages. There are of course many more meteorites on earth. Millions more, actually. One guess is that the planet's atmosphere is bombarded by a million meteors an hour (a meteor is the luminescent streak made by a meteorite); most burn up, but many others have been landing here, intact, since the beginning of time. No one is absolutely certain where the rocks come from. Most scientists agree, however, that they are probably the between Mars and Jupiter. Observers believe the planet exploded, for unknown reasons, and left the cosmic debris that is now known as the asteroid belt. Whatever their origin, though, and their numbers, the meteorites are not easy pickings on earth. Most fall and disappear forever in the 70 percent of the planet that is water. Others are buried in mountains, brushy fields and forests. Wilson says only the trained eye can isolate a meteorite on cluttered ground. In Wilson's case, his trained eye is assisted by a blessing of nature. Eastern New Mexico, where he hunts, is composed primarily of caliche, or limestone. Stones and boulders simply do not proliferate in the spare countryside, hence the chance of finding visitors from space is greatly increased. Then too, Wilson does not waste time hunting in grass or brush. He concentrates on blowout regions, where, in the 1930s, winds and droughts combined to create huge environmental scars of barren hardpan. Rocks in the blowouts, whether meteorites or not, can be spotted with almost casual observation. Wilson uses binoculars in his searches, and keeps his back to the sun. On good days he has found as many as four meteorites, but he may go weeks with no finds at all. He returns again and again to the same blowouts, he says; the winds are forever howling here, and they uncover new treasures in the process. Occasionally, the treasures are virtually priceless. Wilson's most notable find is the Kenna meteorite, named for a town near the discovery. That research, contains diamonds that some authorities believe were formed not by heat and pressure but by the shock of space travel. Aside from the infrequent gem, however, Wilson's meteorites are treasures only in an aesthetic sense. The majority of them are quite small, weighing only a few grams; some are the size of aspirin pills. Also, most of his meteorites are of a stoney material that holds little fascination for researchers. So it is that Wilson has become neither rich nor famous for his extraordinary skills. He says he received a substantial sum for the Kenna stone, but most of the meteorites aren't worth very much. Normally, researchers today are paying $10 a pound for meteorites, less than for some meats in the market. As for fame, Wilson is unknown outside the tiny circle of students and curators familiar with the phenomenon. He says he has considered writing to the editors of the Guiness Book of World Records, for inclusion in its long list of superlatives, but he doesn't know if it's worth the time and effort involved. And yet there is one satisfaction for the champion. Except for some academics and museum professionals, Ivan Wilson, a small-town water works employee, has probably handled a greater variety of extraterrestrial material than anyone on earth. And science is the wiser and more experienced for it. (end) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ship / boat hitters
Hi Sterling, There is at least one other: November 17, 1981 Chiang-Khan (H5) Loei, Thailand FISHERMAN'S BOAT A Thai fisherman gave the following account: at said time, he was fishing on the Mekhong River to catch some fish for breakfast. He saw the devil's ball coming from South, and soon it vanished with a mighty burst. However, he had to seek shelter against the falling stones under a wool blanket, as stones were falling in to his boat - enough that they filled both his hands. Afterwards, he said, he had thrown the ugly black stones, which for sure meant no good, into the river. I have the best of these - though had to pay dearly. Would love some Tahara. anyone??? Michael on 1/22/07 3:10 PM, Sterling K. Webb at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Tracy, Michael, List, I know of only one confirmed hit on a ship: TAHARA (JAPAN) H5 1991 The meteorite was found on deck of the ship M.S. Century-Highway No. 1, which was loading cars in the T-3 berth on Toyota-pier at Toyohashi harbour (Tahara district). When the crew came back from lunch after 12:00, they found meteorite fragments spread out from two impact dents in the steel deck, the largest measuring 20 x 6.5 cm and 3 cm depth, the smaller 17cm away from it. From the size of the impact dent the total weight was estimated to more than 5kg, but most of it was thrown into the ocean by the cleaning crew, only about 1 kg are preserved. No sound was heard accompanying the fall, but during car loading it was very noisy. Keep that cleaning crew away from meteorites. Send'em over to my house. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu I reviewed the little I had regarding the Honolulu fall, and have to make a retraction -- or maybe a redirection. Although my material cannot confirm whether any fragments struck ships at anchor in the harbor, several did fall on and around the mission house settlement by the harbor, one striking coral rock, which was commonly used for construction of walls and houses. Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine; it said that sailors from the Russian frigate Predpriatie took meteoric fragments back to Russia with them. I had thought that meant they collected pieces that fell on the ship. Apparently they instead collected them on the mission house grounds and brought them aboard. My small piece at least has that likely provenance! Tracy Latimer From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tracy latimer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:17:38 -0800 Tracy, I would love to add Honolulu to my list of hammers. Do you (or anyone else) know of ANY reference to any stones from this fall hitting a ship? If so, please provide the source. RSVP Thanks, Michael on 1/22/07 9:55 AM, tracy latimer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honolulu -- might also count as a hammer, since pieces fell in Honolulu harbor, and some (apocryphally) landed on ships anchored there. Tracy Latimer -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about the Tucson Show from a first timer
Pat, You can read what little I know between the questions below: Howdy Fellow Listees, This year will be my first visit to the Tucson show, and I have some questions. I have the meteorite-times.com show guide, which has been very valuable. [I have a hotel in Green Valley (Baymont Inn, 25 miles south of the InnSuites) and a rental car] 1) Is parking at the InnSuites Hotel an issue? NO - they have a HUGE dirt parking lot. Is there a charge for parking there? No 2) Where can I find the bins of unclassified NWAs by the pound that I have been dreaming/obsessing about? Will there be bins ranging from gravel to mostly crusted stones? What might the price range be this year?? Is there - is there balm in Gilead? Dean Bessey used to have the most and cheapest, but no longer goes. They are a dwindling resource. Blaine Reed seemed to have the most bulk last year - but ET had some nice cheap individuals. I am sure many others have some. 3) What is the traffic on I-19 like and what time is morning 'rush hour' etc? The brilliant politicians of Tucson seem to save road work for the gem show. Either that or they simply take over 5 years to get road work taken care of. Traffic sucks, but you can actually move on the freeway. I would avoid the Fwy from 2:30 to 7 PM though. 4) Show hours are listed as 10AM to 6PM, is this accurate? All the talk about parties and margaritas and... well you get the point, are the meteorite dealers open by 10AM? Dealers are a notorious bunch of near do wells and have been known to party late into the night - especially Blaine and the rowdy boys that hang out there. Most don't like to be roused in the AM but tend to be up by 10 am. Of course, everyone is at the Birthday Bash before 8 pm on Fri and at the Auction by 5:30 pm on Sat. 5) What show/location might be displaying small diamond saws? I want to buy an AmeriTool variable speed or something similar, but would like to get a look in person at the rock vice etc. Also Adam Hupe had mentioned an outfit selling really good thin kerf diamond blades at a show in Puyallup, WA. This guy was supposed to be at Tucson. Does this ring a bell? Perhaps someone else can help you with this one. Several Tent Shows in various hotel parking lots seem to carry a lot of equipment, but I don't pay much attention to this stuff, as I have most of what I want. That's probably enough questions for now. I hope the answers to these questions will be of general interest to other list readers as well. See ya there, dude! Michael Best Regards, Pat Brown __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Honolulu
Dear Tracy, Before I could definitively say Honolulu was a hammer, I'd have to do more research to confirm it, but it's not unlikely. Not unlikely - h - still, it is encouraging BTW, I think my statement came from misreading the original article in Aloha Airline's inflight magazine An impeccable source of information - at least for the lower middle classes and mental midgets Just joking I am truly excited you are willing to research this further! Hopefully, you will come up with a reliable source - or even a newspaper report stating it hit a structure or a ship. That would be a major contribution to the metoritic knowledge base, at least in my tiny mind. We (or at least I) await further pronouncements resulting from your efforts. I solute you! Keeping his fingers crossed in San Diego, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
I agree Nicholas. Now it's rare that my more sensitive bits would survive a bid $200 once my wife found out but I spend plenty on stuff lower priced than that. It's nice to know who you're up against. There's one name in particular who seems to like the same stuff I do but seems a little wealthier (or at least less nervous of what his wife would do). If that name comes up in the bid history I tend to steer clear. Imagine the castration potential if I ever got into the $200 bracket with this guy!!! I'm sure they have their reasons. We're probably not important enough to them. Rob McC --- Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the identity of all bidders in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made one feel like he was taking part in a community. Oh, Fred bought that, or Sam didn't bid high enough, was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was building their collection with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who was present at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire networks of collectors, list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery. Now eBay has killed that! Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded! I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that would put on the friendly competition. If anyone has an in to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to make a very loud protest heard! I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer handler. He was really only interested in giving me the party line. Is eBay likely to go back? I asked. No, that won't happen, he said. The official BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent counterfeit eBay offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra, notices that someone wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That is the price that one pays for a freely networked community. Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up auctions, where you can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic equipment nicely displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there... Cheers? Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Successful Meteorite Hunting with a newbie
Hi all, Here are some new Arizona meteorite finds that newbie Mike Morgan and I found yesterday! It was very cold but we braved the high winds and cool temps and found 4 meteorites. Our hunt. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/successfulhunting.htm Pictures of our hunt. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/succesfulhuntingpictures.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video
Hi Frederic, Thanks for the clarification. I thought I saw a video about Tunguska but I apparently am confusing it with Sikhote-Alin. -Walter - Original Message - From: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Dear Walter, As far as I remember it was not a vodeo of Tunguska but rather Sikhote Alin... Best wishes, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Didn't someone post to the list, I believe it was sometime last year, of a Russian made video with English subtitles that was a documentary of the first Kulik expedition to the Tunguska site? I can't seem to find it. I have the one for Sikhote-Alin but I thought there was another one on Tunguska. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits Page
Hello Everyone, I have received some private emails today regarding the Meteorite hits page that is (was) at the IMCA website. I no longer see it at the site. Maybe I overlooked it but apparently it has been taken down. -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits Page
In a message dated 1/22/2007 7:33:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Everyone, I have received some private emails today regarding the Meteorite hits page that is (was) at the IMCA website. I no longer see it at the site. Maybe I overlooked it but apparently it has been taken down. -Walter It is very temporary Walter. As you might have noticed the IMCA has a brand-new website. It is already much better than the old one, and it will be even better when Jeff Kuyken and Norbert Classen are done with it. They have already done a lot of work but they still have quite a few pages from the old site to bring over. Your old Hammer page is one of them, but don't worry, it will be there. And so will all the Field Reports. And there will be more information too. And all List-Members, the site is not only for IMCA members, it is available to everybody. Go take a look and let me know what you think of it: _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) Thanks. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] HAMMER STONE LIST
Hi, List, Since Walt Branch's great list of hammer stones does not seem to be accessible from the front end of the IMCA site via any link, here's how you get to it. (It appears that the IMCA is transitioning websites right now...) http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metstruck.html And here's one hammer stone that isn't on that list: TSUKUBA (JAPAN) H5-6 1996 After a luminous meteor and violent detonations, 23 stones totalling ~800 g (largest, 177.5g) were recovered, including one that penetrated a roof. (Catalogue of Meteorites, Grady et al., 2000) Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits Page
Hi Ann, Yes, I thought it looked new. It looks great! I especially like the intro page with the music. As an aside and way off topic, the Museum of Aviation at Warner Robbins AFB is only a couple of hours away from me (they have an SR71 blackbird - the hottest looking plane ever built). If you really want to see a cool introduction to a website (turn up the sound) go here: http://www.museumofaviation.org/ Let both pages play through. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hits Page In a message dated 1/22/2007 7:33:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Everyone, I have received some private emails today regarding the Meteorite hits page that is (was) at the IMCA website. I no longer see it at the site. Maybe I overlooked it but apparently it has been taken down. -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] QMIG Request - can my page visiitor from Richmond QLD contact me off-list
Hi Listoids www.rawnet.com.au/qwalkra1/ no news per se but a lot of work behind the scenes and new stones found and on the way shortly... I should take the time to thank the people behind the scenes who have helped - you know who you are purpose of this email is to ask my webpage visitor from Richmond Queensland to contact me off-list I is just a tad to the east of you but perhaps closer than thou thought Cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video
Hi All: I sort of remembered something done on the History channel. So I did a Google search and found: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1239210472564794775q=Tunguskahl=en A 5-minute video on Tunguska. In its usual style, despite interviewing several scientists including Don Yeomans, the History Channel makes it sound like the scientists just might be wrong and the Tunguska event may have been an exploding UFO! If it is on TV, it must be right. Larry On Mon, January 22, 2007 2:05 am, Fred Caillou Noir wrote: Dear Walter, As far as I remember it was not a vodeo of Tunguska but rather Sikhote Alin... Best wishes, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Didn't someone post to the list, I believe it was sometime last year, of a Russian made video with English subtitles that was a documentary of the first Kulik expedition to the Tunguska site? I can't seem to find it. I have the one for Sikhote-Alin but I thought there was another one on Tunguska. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video
Hi folks, I recall a 60 minute show many years ago on the Tunguska incident. If I can get the details to come free of the cobwebs in my brain, I will gladly share. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Hi All: I sort of remembered something done on the History channel. So I did a Google search and found: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1239210472564794775q=Tunguskahl=en A 5-minute video on Tunguska. In its usual style, despite interviewing several scientists including Don Yeomans, the History Channel makes it sound like the scientists just might be wrong and the Tunguska event may have been an exploding UFO! If it is on TV, it must be right. Larry On Mon, January 22, 2007 2:05 am, Fred Caillou Noir wrote: Dear Walter, As far as I remember it was not a vodeo of Tunguska but rather Sikhote Alin... Best wishes, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Didn't someone post to the list, I believe it was sometime last year, of a Russian made video with English subtitles that was a documentary of the first Kulik expedition to the Tunguska site? I can't seem to find it. I have the one for Sikhote-Alin but I thought there was another one on Tunguska. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nice article on Wild 2
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[meteorite-list] cold bokkeveld
Hi list.I am looking for a a small piece of cold bokkeveld CM2 for my collection.I have seen a few websites who had it,but are sold out.Let me know off list. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cold bokkeveld
There's always the R.A. Langheinrich silent auction in Tucson. Lot 12 is a 1.5 gram slice of Cold Bokkeveld. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] cold bokkeveld Hi list.I am looking for a a small piece of cold bokkeveld CM2 for my collection.I have seen a few websites who had it,but are sold out.Let me know off list. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cleaning Chondrites
If you have the proper set up there shouldn't be any moisture in your process__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sorry, everyone, I posted this yesterday - 24 hours ago
Sorry, everyone, I posted this yesterday. Several times, it just now came thru 24 hours later. has anyone else had this happen? Tim Heitz __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] hit a tree
Hello All, Home again... Off the top of my head - Sikhote-Alin, and that pretty old Cabin Creek...not to mention all of those big crater forming ones...and Tunguska ;) Terry Boswell also had a new iron fall from the last year or so that supposedly hit a tree, but it had definitely hit something harder - it had a good gash on it that most certainly wasn't due to anything natural except possibly impact on solid rock. Regards, Jason On 1/21/07, Bob WALKER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listoids awgh - a helping hand for u tree huggers bath furnace chernyi bor grzempach hyderabad kenton county mhow moravka novellara peckelsheim rich mountain tourinnes la grosse vitimsky warrenton cmon smarties I must have forgotten some cheers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Questions about the Tucson Show from a first timer
If I had a guess, the TEP, Tucson Electrical Park would be on my short short list of places to ferret out a rock saw and other equipment. Remember that there are shows all over town. You will run out of money and time no matter how much you think you have plenty of both. TEP is on the south end of town and worth the trip. I will miss the insanity, Dave F. Michael L Blood wrote: Pat, You can read what little I know between the questions below: Howdy Fellow Listees, This year will be my first visit to the Tucson show, and I have some questions. I have the meteorite-times.com show guide, which has been very valuable. [I have a hotel in Green Valley (Baymont Inn, 25 miles south of the InnSuites) and a rental car] 1) Is parking at the InnSuites Hotel an issue? NO - they have a HUGE dirt parking lot. Is there a charge for parking there? No 2) Where can I find the bins of unclassified NWAs by the pound that I have been dreaming/obsessing about? Will there be bins ranging from gravel to mostly crusted stones? What might the price range be this year?? Is there - is there balm in Gilead? Dean Bessey used to have the most and cheapest, but no longer goes. They are a dwindling resource. Blaine Reed seemed to have the most bulk last year - but ET had some nice cheap individuals. I am sure many others have some. 3) What is the traffic on I-19 like and what time is morning 'rush hour' etc? The brilliant politicians of Tucson seem to save road work for the gem show. Either that or they simply take over 5 years to get road work taken care of. Traffic sucks, but you can actually move on the freeway. I would avoid the Fwy from 2:30 to 7 PM though. 4) Show hours are listed as 10AM to 6PM, is this accurate? All the talk about parties and margaritas and... well you get the point, are the meteorite dealers open by 10AM? Dealers are a notorious bunch of near do wells and have been known to party late into the night - especially Blaine and the rowdy boys that hang out there. Most don't like to be roused in the AM but tend to be up by 10 am. Of course, everyone is at the Birthday Bash before 8 pm on Fri and at the Auction by 5:30 pm on Sat. 5) What show/location might be displaying small diamond saws? I want to buy an AmeriTool variable speed or something similar, but would like to get a look in person at the rock vice etc. Also Adam Hupe had mentioned an outfit selling really good thin kerf diamond blades at a show in Puyallup, WA. This guy was supposed to be at Tucson. Does this ring a bell? Perhaps someone else can help you with this one. Several Tent Shows in various hotel parking lots seem to carry a lot of equipment, but I don't pay much attention to this stuff, as I have most of what I want. That's probably enough questions for now. I hope the answers to these questions will be of general interest to other list readers as well. See ya there, dude! Michael Best Regards, Pat Brown __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why is Gujba not in the Catalogue?
Hi Lance The reason it was not listed in either of these books is because it was not published until MB 85 which came out Sept 2001. Both of the references you mentioned were published before that date. It appears based on the description that nothing was studied by scientists until 2000. So you will have to take issue with the original finders for not bringing it to the attention of the scientists until sometime in 2000. There are more extreme examples of this. One of the most recent is the new french meteorite Saint-Ouen-en-Champagne (proposed) which fell Sept 29, 1799. Just search the list archives for more on this one. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 1/21/07, Lance Wozniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just gathering information on some meteorites I own and noticed that Gujba, CB3 does not appear as an entry in *Catalogue of Meteorites, Fifth *Edition by Monica Grady which was first published in 2000. This was long after Gujba was discovered in 1984. Meteorites from A to Z, Second Edition does have it listed. It shouldn't take longer than 16 years for a publication to get caught up, don't you think? Can anybody shed some light on this for me? Thanks, Lance Wozniak Yuma,AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list http://www.jensenmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Why is Gujba not in the Catalogue?
Re: [meteorite-list] Why is Gujba not in the Catalogue?Thanks Eric and Mike for the information, When I purchase a mereorite eventually I make a Booklet with as much information as I can find. I locate a map on the internet with coordinates and take photos of what I own as well. It's a hobby, collecting, right? Sometimes you have to dig a little more to get the rest of the story. Thanks guys. Lance Wozniak - Original Message - From: Eric Twelker To: Lance Wozniak Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Why is Gujba not in the Catalogue? Hi Lance The story on Gujba is this-it fell in 1984 and was collected immediately-or parts of it were. The locals broke it into bits to look for precious gems as is the Nigerian custom-hmm. At that time, a piece made its way to a Polish oil exploration group in the area and some larger pieces made it to the University of Maidugeri in Boro State. The UM people published an article about it in their journal-The Annuls of Borno State. The Poles took the piece back to Poland and no one let anyone associated with the meteorite world know of its existence. There it sat. In about 2000, a regular meteorite supplier of mine in Nigeria sent me a DHL bag-complete with holes-and a crumbly rock inside with pieces falling out. He thought this thing was a meteorite. I sent it to Alan Rubin with a note that it looked like we had a new Bencubbinite on our hands. Alan did the workup on it and while he was doing that he found that someone in Pennsylvania had a similar piece from Poland. He traced back and found the other references. He then submitted it to the Bulletin. So the answer is that it just escaped notice of the meteorite world until after publication of the Catalogue. I could give exact dates on all this if you like. But that's the general story. Regards, Eric Twelker http://www.meteoritemarket.com I was just gathering information on some meteorites I own and noticed that Gujba, CB3 does not appear as an entry in Catalogue of Meteorites, Fifth Edition by Monica Grady which was first published in 2000. This was long after Gujba was discovered in 1984. Meteorites from A to Z, Second Edition does have it listed. It shouldn't take longer than 16 years for a publication to get caught up, don't you think? Can anybody shed some light on this for me? Thanks, Lance Wozniak Yuma,AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video
The title is The Fire Came By. Based on a book by John Baxter and Thomas Atkins. It was on the Discovery Channel years ago. I have one of original books on tape, but not the video. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Deckert Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fred Caillou Noir Cc: Meteorite List; Walter Branch Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Hi folks, I recall a 60 minute show many years ago on the Tunguska incident. If I can get the details to come free of the cobwebs in my brain, I will gladly share. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fred Caillou Noir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Hi All: I sort of remembered something done on the History channel. So I did a Google search and found: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1239210472564794775q=Tunguskahl=en A 5-minute video on Tunguska. In its usual style, despite interviewing several scientists including Don Yeomans, the History Channel makes it sound like the scientists just might be wrong and the Tunguska event may have been an exploding UFO! If it is on TV, it must be right. Larry On Mon, January 22, 2007 2:05 am, Fred Caillou Noir wrote: Dear Walter, As far as I remember it was not a vodeo of Tunguska but rather Sikhote Alin... Best wishes, Frederic Lyon, France - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tunguska Video Didn't someone post to the list, I believe it was sometime last year, of a Russian made video with English subtitles that was a documentary of the first Kulik expedition to the Tunguska site? I can't seem to find it. I have the one for Sikhote-Alin but I thought there was another one on Tunguska. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - Release Date: 1/22/2007 7:30 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - Release Date: 1/22/2007 7:30 AM __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
