Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 24, 2007

2007-01-24 Thread Meteoriteshow
Dear Michael and List Members,

I just wish to inform you that there was a misunderstanding with this meteorite 
displayed on Jan. 24 as the Meteorite of the Day -
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_24.html-, which is not a Benguerir 
fragment but an unclassified Ordinary Chondrite that was
also purchased in Erfoud in August 2006.
This meteorite -labelled FB01-  was brought with other ones to Pierre Rochette 
and Jerome Gattacecca at CEREGE in Aix en Privence,
France, in order to get its magnetic susceptibility measured (LogX -say 
Logchi).
Weighing 415g, FB01 has a LogX = 4,80, which puts it most probably in the range 
of the L chondrites according to the diagram
provided by Pierre Rochette and Jerome Gattacecca that you can see on the 
Caillou Noir website at
http://www.caillou-noir.com/magnetic-susceptibility_SM30.htm. This webpage will 
help those of you who are not familiar with the
magnetic susceptibility of chondrites to understand better the interest of this 
property that could become in the future a way of
easy, fast and non destructive mean of classification, especially for fresh 
chondrites like this one.

I wish you all a nice day!
Kind regards,

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
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[meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread Bob WALKER
Listoids

ah yes the slippery slope

dummies guide to tell if you are stepping up from being a basic collector 
and probably are spending too much time and money...

(1) you buy a loupe
(2) you finally track down (and buy) a scale cube
(3) you realise you need to upgrade your digital camera skills
(4) you buy an illuminated binocular magnifier
(5) you get into thin slides
(6) you consider buying cross polarised light equipment
(7) you spend more time at the petrology lab - hmmm - holidays next year
(8) you bash out a website
(9) you discover the joys of spam and nutter email
(10) you start to tell stevo jokes

rightyho - must be more signs and symptoms

Hola - oops thats supposed to go at the top but I always wanted to type that 

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread Gary K. Foote
8 out of 10 isn't bad.  I must be reaching for the stars - errr...  meteors.

Gary

On 24 Jan 2007 at 20:57, Bob WALKER wrote:

 Listoids
 
 ah yes the slippery slope
 
 dummies guide to tell if you are stepping up from being a basic collector 
 and probably are spending too much time and money...
 
 (1) you buy a loupe
 (2) you finally track down (and buy) a scale cube
 (3) you realise you need to upgrade your digital camera skills
 (4) you buy an illuminated binocular magnifier
 (5) you get into thin slides
 (6) you consider buying cross polarised light equipment
 (7) you spend more time at the petrology lab - hmmm - holidays next year
 (8) you bash out a website
 (9) you discover the joys of spam and nutter email
 (10) you start to tell stevo jokes
 
 rightyho - must be more signs and symptoms
 
 Hola - oops thats supposed to go at the top but I always wanted to type that 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread tett
Me too.  8 out of 10.

And...

-You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and 
payments.
-Your ebay watch list exceeds 50


Cheers!

tett
- Original Message - 
From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping 
up


8 out of 10 isn't bad.  I must be reaching for the stars - errr... 
meteors.

 Gary

 On 24 Jan 2007 at 20:57, Bob WALKER wrote:

 Listoids

 ah yes the slippery slope

 dummies guide to tell if you are stepping up from being a basic collector
 and probably are spending too much time and money...

 (1) you buy a loupe
 (2) you finally track down (and buy) a scale cube
 (3) you realise you need to upgrade your digital camera skills
 (4) you buy an illuminated binocular magnifier
 (5) you get into thin slides
 (6) you consider buying cross polarised light equipment
 (7) you spend more time at the petrology lab - hmmm - holidays next year
 (8) you bash out a website
 (9) you discover the joys of spam and nutter email
 (10) you start to tell stevo jokes

 rightyho - must be more signs and symptoms

 Hola - oops thats supposed to go at the top but I always wanted to type 
 that

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread almitt
Greetings,

I've seen the term thin slides used to describe thin sections every now and 
then. Having 
been a big supplier of sections for many years I have never called them thin 
slides or slides. Wondering if this is a scientifically accepted term for thin 
sections or not. It's not an important issue and I am fine with calling them 
either way but wondering what the general consenses is, how they got name 
something different. 

(5) you get into thin slides

--AL Mitterling

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
It's a thin section of sample material (In this  case meteorite) attached to 
a glass slide.  I could see them called either  just as well.

I guess I got stuck in the middle 5 steps on the  list.  Love the rocks, hate 
all that Website crap.

Check out my  micrographs of thin sections of meteorite glued to glass 
microscope slides at  Paul's  Website.

http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/

Thanks,   Tom Phillips  

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - How to tell if you are 12 stepping up, number #13

2007-01-24 Thread Tim Heitz

 How to tell if you are 12 stepping up
 http://www.meteorman.org/Meteorite_Creed.htm
 
 How many more can be added
 
 # 13 -You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and
 payments.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: tett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite List 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are 
 stepping up
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Me too.  8 out of 10.
 
 And...
 
 -You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and
 payments.
 -Your ebay watch list exceeds 50
 
 
 Cheers!
 
 tett
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - How to tell if you are 12stepping up, number #

2007-01-24 Thread Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge
Good Morning All,

this is a great picture of Tim at his home page.  :-)
Nice website!

And do you go out and search too?
And where?

With best regards,
Moni





From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - How to tell if you are 
12stepping up, number #13
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:57:41 -0600


  How to tell if you are 12 stepping up
  http://www.meteorman.org/Meteorite_Creed.htm

  How many more can be added

  # 13 -You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and
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[meteorite-list] Mystery Light Seen Across Wales

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/6294099.stm

Mystery light seen across Wales
BBC News
January 24, 2007

A flashing light reported streaking through the skies across much of
Wales at breakfast time could have been a meteor, an expert believes.

The light was first seen at 0730 GMT, with one eyewitness describing it
as a long line, thicker at one end, bluey-green and flashing.

Reports of the light came in from the Lleyn Peninsula through to Swansea.

Jay Tate from Spaceguard UK said it was most likely to be a piece of
space debris entering the earth's atmosphere.

It was frightening, said Morfudd Parry Roberts from Aberdaron, Gwynedd.

My initial thoughts were that it was a plane on fire
Andrew Curley, Penrhyncoch, Aberystwyth

I was sitting having a cup of coffee by the window when I saw it (the
light) move from the north towards the south.

It was a long line, thicker at the front end. It was quite frightening
because it seemed so big.

It was a bluey-green and flashing. It was at least 50 times bigger than
a shooting star and seemed to be gliding through the sky quite low down,
not falling.

Witnesses said the light lasted for a few seconds.

I'm just glad other people saw it as well, she added.

Andrew Curley, 32, from Penrhyncoch, near Aberystwyth, was out walking
his dog when he spotted a huge fireball racing out to sea.

My initial thoughts were that it was a plane on fire, but it was far
too big and going far too quickly for it to be an aircraft, said Mr
Curley.

It must have been something like a meteorite because it just lit up the
sky.

White hot air

The Spaceguard UK centre at Knighton, Powys, is a privately-funded body
looking at the threat posed to the earth by collisions with asteroids
and comets.

Without having seen it myself I can't be certain, but from the
description it sounds like a fireball, which is a big shooting star,
said Jay Tate from the centre.

The earth was hit by a couple of tonnes of debris from space every
day, Mr Tate added, but usually they were small particles about the size
of a grain of sand.

Occasionally, however, debris was larger and from the number of people
who saw the light on Wednesday he estimated it would have been about the
size of an orange.

If it was bigger than that we would have heard a lot more about it, he
said.

The particles hit the earth's atmosphere at between 45-50,000 mph and
the light seen is the white hot air around it, he said.

The light is often described as green, he added, depending on the
make-up of the rock.

Roger Reed of Milford Haven Coastguard said they received two 999 calls
from people who thought a ship might have sent out a distress flare.

They initially sent two teams out, at Aberydyfi and Broadhaven, but
called them back when further calls suggested it was a shooting star.

We had the first call at 0734. Then we had calls in from LNG site
workers, the Pendine range vessel and someone on his way to work saying
it looked like a shooting star, said Mr Reed.

Swansea coastguards also logged a call by someone who had seen a similar
light, he added.

The colour of the light seen varied, we had two say it was white, and
one say it was green.

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - How to tell if you are 12stepping up, number #13

2007-01-24 Thread Tim Heitz

Hello Moni,

There are many ways to be part of this interesting hobby,
I do the best I can to reach that goal.




Best,
Tim Heitz



Good Morning All,

 this is a great picture of Tim at his home page.  :-)
Nice website!

 And do you go out and search too?
And where?

 With best regards,
Moni


 12 stepping up, number #13
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:57:41 -0600


 How to tell if you are 12 stepping up
http://www.meteorman.org/Meteorite_Creed.htm
How many more can be added
 # 13 -You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and
 payments.


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[meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.midweekherald.co.uk/midweekherald/news/story.aspx?brand=MDWOnlinecategory=newstBrand=devon24tCategory=newsmdwitemid=DEED24%20Jan%202007%2010%3A26%3A27%3A343
  

Mars connection to Seaton beach 'find'
Midweek Herald (United Kingdom)
24 January 2007

THE chances of anything coming from Mars... are almost
certain, if you ask Terry Pavey from Seaton.

Mr Pavey, of Seaton Down Road, was combing Seaton beach three
years ago when he found a rock that experts say is a meteorite
from Mars.

Mr Pavey, born and raised in Axmouth, is a keen metal detector
enthusiast and knows the local beaches well.

He said: I don't know geology, but I had an instant idea it
was a meteorite.

If it was a normal metallic rock, like the ones you usually
find, it would have been rusty and I wouldn't have thought
anything of it.

But this rock was shiny and looked so new I thought straight
away it must have come from space.

Upon finding the rock, Mr Pavey described its features to two
Canadian friends from the metal detecting community, who
recommended taking it to an expert.

Mr Pavey continued: I took it to Eve's in Seaton and they put
me onto an expert in Scotland, so I flew up there and had it
checked out.

He compared it to other specimens and said it was almost
definitely a meteorite from Mars.

I often carry a bit around to show different people.

They're always amazed at the story.

It's an amazing specimen and begs all kind of questions like
when did it break off, how long had it been travelling and how
far has it come?

I read it's the first to be discovered in England since 1991.

If it weren't for the metal detector I wouldn't have noticed
it at all.

I feel so lucky to have found it.

When I first brought it into the Harbour Inn, in Axmouth, the
girl behind the bar held it and said it felt warm.

I don't know if that was the heat from her hand or what, but
I like to think it was millions of Martians running around inside!

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[meteorite-list] Astronaut Seeks Craft to Bump Asteroids

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.happynews.com/news/1242007/astronaut-seeks-craft-bump-asteroids.htm

Astronaut Seeks Craft to Bump Asteroids
Associated Press
January 24, 2007

NASA astronaut and former University of Hawaii solar physicist Edward Lu
is calling for a new spacecraft that would divert asteroids on a path to
slam into Earth.

The small space tractor, costing between $200 million and $300 million,
would hover near an asteroid to exert enough gravitational pull that the
space rock's orbit would change and a collision with our planet would be
averted, Lu said before a crowd packed into a 300-capacity auditorium at
the University of Hawaii-Manoa Monday night.

''We're only trying to get a really tiny change in the velocity of the
asteroid to prevent an impact,'' he said.

Lu was part of a panel including three Hawaii scientists who
characterized the chances of an asteroid colliding with Earth as rare
but deserving of the same level of attention as major earthquakes,
tsunamis and hurricanes.

A report on the appearance appeared on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin Web
site on Tuesday.

The asteroid Apophis will pass within about 20,000 miles of Earth on
Friday, April 13, 2029.

''It's going to come so close to the Earth in 2029 that its orbit will
change and it might change enough so that it comes back and hits us in
2036,'' said Hawaii planetary astronomer David Tholen, who discovered
Apophis.

During the asteroid's next close pass to the sun in 2013 that risk will
be assessed in radar surveys, he said.

Objects the size of a grain of sand frequently hit the Earth's
atmosphere, appearing as shooting stars in the night sky. But a larger
impact could be devastating. Asteroids are blamed for the death of the
dinosaurs 65 million years ago and an explosion over Tunguska, Russia,
in 1908 that wiped out 60 million trees over a 830-square-mile area.

According to a presentation by university astronomer Robert Jedicke, a
Tunguska-size explosion would be able to blast or burn nearly all of Oahu.

Because the devastation would be great, the risk to a person of
perishing in a major asteroid collision is about 1 in 10,000 or 20,000
over a 100-year lifetime - the same dying in a plane crash, Jedicke said.

The University of Hawaii's Pan-STARRS program would train four powerful
digital cameras toward the heavens to watch for would-be intruders.

Officials from the project are hoping to garner public support of a plan
to locate on Mauna Kea. The telescopes also could be built at two sites
on Haleakala, where a prototype is being built, but scientists warn the
project would take twice as long to complete there.

Environmentalists and Hawaiian activists have argued against additional
development on Mauna Kea and some scientists have expressed concern
about additional construction as the volcano already hosts 13 telescopes.

The program would be able to provide decades of warning of an impending
impact, the scientists said.

That would be enough time to launch a tractor spacecraft to knock the
asteroid into a safe orbit, said Lu, who spent six month aboard the
International Space Station in 2003 and was a postdoctoral fellow at the
University of Hawaii's astronomy institute from 1992 to 1995.

To do nothing would be to invite disaster, he said.

''If we are wiped out by an asteroid, that will be our own fault at this
point,'' he said.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Information Page

2007-01-24 Thread Paul Harris
Dear Jim,

Thank you very much for the mention. We were privileged with the honor 
of a Harvey Award at the
2004 Birthday Bash. We dedicated this award to our contributing writers 
as it's their content and
hard work that are responsible.  People not listed on the page below 
because it was in 2004, but
should also be acknowledged for their contributions are the new 
Meteorite Magazine Team, IMCA
Michael Johnson and Tom Phillips.
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2004/March/harvey_thanks.htm

Bernd is the heart of the list. To be mentioned in the same paragraph as 
Bernd is an honor in itself.
Most of you don't know but Bernd has helped edit some of the articles in 
Meteorite-Times and
donates his time and energy without a thought of recognition or praise. 
For anyone who has not
read about Bernd please read below.
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/May/Meteorite_People.htm

Thank you,

Paul and Jim


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 Someone, I believe it was Martin Altman, mentioned as a footnote to a
 message on another topic that if Berndt, the universal favorite, prefers
 to defer his award until he can receive it in person, Paul and Jim would
 be very deserving alternate recipients. I would just like agree with that
 sentiment and thank them for their services to all of us. Their site and
 their Tucson updates are wonderful resources.

 Regards,
 Jim Baxter

 p.s. and of course can't wait to meet Berndt in person when he does come
 over and receive his well-earned recognition

   
 Hello Everyone!

 All information has been posted to The Tucson Information Page.
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/tucson/

 Please enter any edits or new information here
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[meteorite-list] HiRISE Camera Shows Mojave Crater Peak is High and Dry

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke


HiRISE CAMERA SHOWS MOJAVE CRATER PEAK IS HIGH AND DRY
(From Lori Stiles, University Communications, 520-626-4402)

- Wednesday, January 24, 2007

---
Contact Information
 Alfred S. McEwen, UA. Principal Investigator, HiRISE
 520-621-4573 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Related Web sites
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu


The HiRISE camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter took a huge,
detailed image of Mars' Mojave crater on Jan. 7, 2007.

Part of that photograph shows the central uplift structure in the crater.
Rocks that form this peak were several kilometers beneath the surface until
an impact formed the 37 mile-diameter (60 kilometer) crater just north of
Mars' equator. The HiRISE image shows that boulders as large as 50 feet
across (15 meters) have eroded from the massive uplifted rock and rolled
downslope. 

The HiRISE image also confirms earlier evidence that this part of Mojave
crater appears untouched by liquid water. Previous photographs taken by the
HiRISE camera, and even earlier by the Mars Orbital Camera that flew on
NASA'S Mars Global Surveyor, show that Mojave crater rim walls feature
striking drainage channels and alluvial fans that likely were formed by
surface water runoff. How runoff formed these channels and alluvial fans is
one of the questions that HiRISE team members and their collaborators are
looking into. 

The High Resolution Science Imaging Experiment (HiRISE) team, led by
University of Arizona Professor Alfred S. McEwen, is based at UA's Lunar and
Planetary Laboratory in Tucson. HiRISE began the science phase of the
mission in November, 2006, and posts new images and captions on the Internet
at http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu every Wednesday.

More information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter mission is available
at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of
the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington.
Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, is the prime contractor for the
project and built the spacecraft. The HiRISE camera was built by Ball
Aerospace and Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo.

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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread Alexander Seidel
Well, I believe calling them slides is a rather informal term, which may be 
used by those who know what they are talking about. In fact, I am using this 
term when me and my supplier of thin sections email each other, who is a 
well-known and respected old time dealer based in the U.S., and he knows what I 
mean and sometimes also uses this word in our private communication.

This is most probably not at all what you could call a scientifically accepted 
term. It is used in informal talk instead. Then again, this other term thin 
slide sounds rather strange to me, when talking of meteorite thin sections - 
while I must say I am not a native English speaker.

Native English speakers, the majority of this list, may contribute some more 
bits and bytes on this

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:31:54 -0500
Von: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

 Greetings,
 
 I've seen the term thin slides used to describe thin sections every now
 and then. Having 
 been a big supplier of sections for many years I have never called them
 thin slides or slides. Wondering if this is a scientifically accepted term
 for thin sections or not. It's not an important issue and I am fine with
 calling them either way but wondering what the general consenses is, how they
 got name something different. 
 
 (5) you get into thin slides
 
 --AL Mitterling
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread ken newton
Hi,
Are there any BIMS members with more insight on this? 
Thanks,
Ken Newton

 
Ron Baalke wrote:

http://www.midweekherald.co.uk/midweekherald/news/story.aspx?brand=MDWOnlinecategory=newstBrand=devon24tCategory=newsmdwitemid=DEED24%20Jan%202007%2010%3A26%3A27%3A343
  

Mars connection to Seaton beach 'find'
Midweek Herald (United Kingdom)
24 January 2007

THE chances of anything coming from Mars... are almost
certain, if you ask Terry Pavey from Seaton.

Mr Pavey, of Seaton Down Road, was combing Seaton beach three
years ago when he found a rock that experts say is a meteorite
from Mars.

Mr Pavey, born and raised in Axmouth, is a keen metal detector
enthusiast and knows the local beaches well.

He said: I don't know geology, but I had an instant idea it
was a meteorite.

If it was a normal metallic rock, like the ones you usually
find, it would have been rusty and I wouldn't have thought
anything of it.

But this rock was shiny and looked so new I thought straight
away it must have come from space.

Upon finding the rock, Mr Pavey described its features to two
Canadian friends from the metal detecting community, who
recommended taking it to an expert.

Mr Pavey continued: I took it to Eve's in Seaton and they put
me onto an expert in Scotland, so I flew up there and had it
checked out.

He compared it to other specimens and said it was almost
definitely a meteorite from Mars.

I often carry a bit around to show different people.

They're always amazed at the story.

It's an amazing specimen and begs all kind of questions like
when did it break off, how long had it been travelling and how
far has it come?

I read it's the first to be discovered in England since 1991.

If it weren't for the metal detector I wouldn't have noticed
it at all.

I feel so lucky to have found it.

When I first brought it into the Harbour Inn, in Axmouth, the
girl behind the bar held it and said it felt warm.

I don't know if that was the heat from her hand or what, but
I like to think it was millions of Martians running around inside!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:23:23 -0500, you wrote:

Hi,
Are there any BIMS members with more insight on this? 

Sounds like BS to me.  A shiny, metallic Martian?
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[meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread Alexander Seidel
...that this, our METEORITECENTRAL list, is now slowly approaching it´s tenth 
year of existence? Art Jones, where art thou? Is there some truth to my sudden 
thought about this very list´s age?

I have been one of the first members, and after my initial subscription here, 
often changed my internet provider, and as I am rather lazy than busy in some 
respects, I haven´t kept track of the exact timeline records, which now adds to 
my confusion of history facts. But anyway I somehow have the feeling that Art´s 
list might possibly approach 10 years of existence. Or am I completely wrong? 
Other oldtimers like Bernd or perhaps Cap´n Blood or other oldies-but-goodies 
may contribute more on this point...

Hi Art - great job, still well and alive after all those years! Give him a hand 
up, folks!

Alex
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[meteorite-list] Another Asteroid Collision With Earth: It's Just a Matter of Time

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2817276page=1
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Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping up

2007-01-24 Thread Michael L Blood
You get a resale number (FREE and easily obtained from
your local state - tell them you occasionally sell on eBay
and want to be sure to pay state tax when someone buys
in your state, the same with swap meets and from your
web page). In San Diego, it takes about 10 minutes.
This allows you to buy WITHOUT paying tax
at the Tucson Show (and will even get you into some
places you can not otherwise go.
You do it BEFORE the Tucson show so you don't
pay ridiculous AZ and Tucson sales taxes.
Michael

on 1/24/07 3:36 AM, tett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Me too.  8 out of 10.
 
 And...
 
 -You hide emails form your wife which detail meteorite purchases and
 payments.
 -Your ebay watch list exceeds 50
 
 
 Cheers!
 
 tett
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new thread - how to tell if you are stepping
 up
 
 
 8 out of 10 isn't bad.  I must be reaching for the stars - errr...
 meteors.
 
 Gary
 
 On 24 Jan 2007 at 20:57, Bob WALKER wrote:
 
 Listoids
 
 ah yes the slippery slope
 
 dummies guide to tell if you are stepping up from being a basic collector
 and probably are spending too much time and money...
 
 (1) you buy a loupe
 (2) you finally track down (and buy) a scale cube
 (3) you realise you need to upgrade your digital camera skills
 (4) you buy an illuminated binocular magnifier
 (5) you get into thin slides
 (6) you consider buying cross polarised light equipment
 (7) you spend more time at the petrology lab - hmmm - holidays next year
 (8) you bash out a website
 (9) you discover the joys of spam and nutter email
 (10) you start to tell stevo jokes
 
 rightyho - must be more signs and symptoms
 
 Hola - oops thats supposed to go at the top but I always wanted to type
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 Sounds like BS to me.  A shiny, metallic Martian?

The article didn't say it was metallic.  Shergottites
tend to have a glossy fusion crust.  But I'm a skeptic
until I see confirmation from a reputable laboratory.

Ron B.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Hutton
My earliest email I have saved is from 10th May 1997, amazing that I am 
still using the same personal email address!. Within the header of the email 
it says...archive/latest/325
this number seems to increment on later emails, so is the email I have the 
325th posted to the list. It would be interesting to see the first few if 
anyone has copies.

Eric Hutton.

- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Could it be


 ...that this, our METEORITECENTRAL list, is now slowly approaching it´s 
 tenth year of existence? Art Jones, where art thou? Is there some truth to 
 my sudden thought about this very list´s age?

 I have been one of the first members, and after my initial subscription 
 here, often changed my internet provider, and as I am rather lazy than 
 busy in some respects, I haven´t kept track of the exact timeline records, 
 which now adds to my confusion of history facts. But anyway I somehow have 
 the feeling that Art´s list might possibly approach 10 years of 
 existence. Or am I completely wrong? Other oldtimers like Bernd or 
 perhaps Cap´n Blood or other oldies-but-goodies may contribute more on 
 this point...

 Hi Art - great job, still well and alive after all those years! Give him a 
 hand up, folks!

 Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread Rob McCafferty
 Mr Pavey continued: I took it to Eve's in Seaton
 and they put
 me onto an expert in Scotland, so I flew up there
 and had it
 checked out.
 
 He compared it to other specimens and said it was
 almost
 definitely a meteorite from Mars.
 
 I often carry a bit around to show different
 people.
 

I wonder who he spoke to? There can't be many experts
in Scotland.  Maybe it was Rob Elliott? It certainly
wasn't me (couldn't be, it was seen by an expert).
This is the first anyone in the British and Irish
Meteorite Society have heard about it, I think.
Wouldn't mind taking a look at it myself.

Once again, there's the report of it being warm,
possibly hours later. 
Uh-oh! I feel an attack of cynicism coming
on...must...take...medication...

Where the heck IS Seaton, anyway?

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[meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread bernd . pauli
Eric Hutton wrote:

My earliest email I have saved is from 10th May 1997


Hello Eric, Alex, and List,

The earliest email I have saved is from Thu, 20 Mar 1997 and it was written
by no less a person than Frank ... Frank Stroik for those who still remember
him.

Time really flies fast and while some list members are still here, others have
left us, ... some for good. Who still remembers good, ole Jim? Jim Hurley,
the arachnaut!

The last I ever heard from him was a mail he sent me Thu, 08 Nov 2001 and,
unfortunately, he did not sound very optimistic:

Hello Bernd,...yes, I still lurk. I have become a starving artist,
so I no longer can afford  my web sites, let alone meteorites.


Best wishes to All of Us
and THANKS A LOT
to Art!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:21 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

 
 Sounds like BS to me.  A shiny, metallic Martian?

The article didn't say it was metallic.  Shergottites
tend to have a glossy fusion crust.  But I'm a skeptic
until I see confirmation from a reputable laboratory.

Looking back over the article, no, it didn't directly say this rock was
metallic, but I assumed from the article that the metal-detector enthusist that
found it, later consulting other metal-detector enthusists, had found it using a
metal detector.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

Eric Hutton wrote:
My earliest email I have saved is from 10th May 1997

Hmmmmy earliest email goes back in the 1980's. the
earliest email I've saved from meteoritecentral is dated
January 13, 1997 from Frank Stroik - a very valuable
contributing member, who unfortunately has left the list
long ago.  The meteorite mailing list has moved to 
different servers over the years.  I think it was originally 
started around 1995 because I have an email from Joel Schiff 
dated July 16, 1995, and I'm pretty sure I first heard about 
Meteorite! magazine from the meteorite list. Anyone else
have any recollections on this?

Ron Baalke
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[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article in the FAZ with a Picture from List member Jeff Kuyken (in German)

2007-01-24 Thread bernd . pauli
F = Frankfurter
A = Allgemeine
Z = Zeitung

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub6E2D1F09C983403B8EC7549AB44FA0EF/Doc~E94621780370543FD8C9F659F21BA32DD~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html


Cheers,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread Razvan Andrei

 Bernd Pauli wrote:

 The earliest email I have saved is from Thu, 20 Mar 1997 and it was 
 written
 by no less a person than Frank ... Frank Stroik for those who still 
 remember
 him.

Hi list,

My earliest mail saved is from Sun, May 11, 1997, also written by Frank 
Stroik
on vesicles and vugs in chondrules. I guess I joined the list around that 
date. The
header says 'archive/latest/331'.

The message is interesting and I will copy it here...

Best Regards,
Andrei


From - Sun May 11 04:55:32 1997
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:28:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tying up some loose ends.
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Mailing-List: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com archive/latest/331
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 A few people on this list have asked me questions, and I
have yet not responded. Today, I will do my best to answer these
questions, as I will be out of town for three weeks, as of tommorow.
These are questions that the entire list may be interested in reading the
answer.
 I recieved a question a while back, about vesicles, and vugs in
chondrules. Bascily the gentleman wanted to know why I said  By
definition chondrules cannot have vugs/vesicles. Here now is my
expalnation, and I apologize to the person for the delay.
 My answer is derived from an article written for a book written
in 1983 entitled Chondrules and Their Origins(published by the Lunar
and Planetary Institiute, edited by Elbert A. King). Basicly the
definition of chondrule as of 1983, and 1988(a paper published by John
Wasson), is an object that has been melted, and cooled rapidly, thus
creating small and fine grained aggregates, and in some cases quenched
glass. These are spherical to subspherical, and may contain lithic 
fragments.
 Now, anytime silicate material is cooled rapidly, the crystals
tend to be small, as well as the possible formation of volcanic glass.
The mode of formation of chondrules precludes vesicles/vugs based on
this, as most gas was probobly removed due to volitization when the
material was initialy heated, thereby not allowing to be incorporated in
to the rapidly cooling silicates.
 Here on Earth, I am currently unaware of any igneous bodies, that
have been cooled rapidly(i.e. obsidian deposits) that contain any
appreciable gas bubbles. Pumice is in a sense volcanic glass that has
cooled rapidly, and contains gas in it, but in having this property, it
has little structural rigidity, and breaks down readily in relativly
short geologic time. So based on the above information, it seems that
that chondrules with vesicle/vugs are not likely to occur. However, I am
aware that there are still many debates on what exactly a chondrule is,
and how to define them. I choose the above definiton, because I am not a
chondrule expert, and prefer to follow what seems plausible as realistic
classification. I am positive, either right now, or sometime soon the
above idea may change, but I will use the above definition until I see
otherwise.
 One more quick comment. I have to upgrade my reference above, as
it is somewhat incomplete. The references I need have been checked out of
the Library here, and I can't properly site until they come back. I will
post the reference, with page numbers when I get back.
 I had a question on the E-chondrite Earth. I will attempt to
explain this paper in as much detail I can(M. Javoy, The integral
enstatite chondrite model of the earth Geophysical Research Letters,
Vol. 22, No. 16, Pages 2219-, August 15, 1995.) It should be kept in
mind that this is an alternative to the conventional earth model that says
ordinary chondritic material is what the earth formed from.
 The basic idea of the article is that E-chondrites match the
earth in stable isotope, and redox characteristics. Redox is term used
to denote a chemical reaction adding or taking away oxygen. By looking at
these properties, models can be made to explain the differentiation of
the earths mantle, meaning why the elements are found the way they are in
the mantle.
 The mantle is thought to be homogeneous based on elements found in
E,C, and Ordinary chondrites. Using simple chemistry, the depth at which
different elements would be found in the mantle is used to try and make a
picture of the mantle's makeup. The author of this paper
indicates this may be wrong, and the mantle is heterogoneous. The author
attempts to explain this by using e-chondrites as building blocks of
planet earth.
 EH- chondrites are the material that is used in the modeling,
because it appears to have the closest elemental, and isotopic
compositions of the earth. The author explains in some detail the various
effects of EH material in the earth, to show it to be feasible. The main
point to remember is that the mantle may not be as homgeneous as
previously thought, and that it may in fact hold two very different
elemental 

[meteorite-list] Could it be.... Frank's Article Dated 20 Mar 1997

2007-01-24 Thread bernd . pauli
..should be of interest to all of us, especially to those who are into
thin sections (under crossed polars) and classification of meteorites!

Cheers,

Bernd


To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Subject: Re: Classifying Meteorites and the Inherent Problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:56:10 -0700 (MST) 

Classifying Meteorites and the Inherent Problems

I wanted to take some time out to tell everyone about what is involved in new 
meteorite
analysis and classification. There are many things that make this a difficult 
and somewhat
magical task. It is a very subjective process, that can yield different 
results if you allow
personal judgment to get too involved. To analyze a meteorite you must first 
have a thin
section. This is how all data is obtained, and can be extremely limited if you 
only have one.
The smaller the meteorite, the more difficult to analyze with accuracy. 
The first step is to look at the general texture of the meteorite under normal 
light in the micro-
scope. Here you can see how weathered it is and how bashed up it is. The 
minerals should
be pretty much clear, but if it is weathered, they will appear brown. This can 
cause problems
as this may further add to the bashed up appearence of the meteorite.
Next you have to cross the polars. This means simply, polarize the light. 
Minerals behave differ-
ently to polarization. This is due to a property known as bifringence. The 
atomic structure of a
mineral will bend the light in a certain way, and create a most spectacular 
image. For example,
olivine is pretty much colorless in plain light, but polarize it, and you get 
extremely bright blues,
greens, and yellows. Each mineral behaves differently under polarization. It is 
these differences
that help us decide what is in the meteorite.
Now you must look for a mineral known to petrologists as OPX. This is basicly 
the solid solution
of enstatite, bronzite, hypersthene, and ferrosilite. A solid solution is a 
solution that can have
different chemical compositions depending on precentage of elements that are 
available. 
In OPX this is Fe, and Mg. If it were pure Mg, it would be enstatite, and if it 
were pure Fe, it would
be ferrosilite. However it is rare that such a thing happens in nature, so 
bronzite and hypersthene are
basicly different compositions of Fe, and Mg, hypersthene being more Mg rich, 
and bronzite being
more Fe rich.
When you find OPX, you must decide if it is the appropriate crystal system for 
you to use in your
analysis. This is done by turning the microscope stage  (the place where the 
thin section rests) until
the mineral is completely black. If it turns and goes black it is what you are 
looking for. If it must be
turned 90 degrees it is the wrong crystal system.
Now you look at how many of these grains there are, and determine how abundant 
they are. All the
while you are doing this you look at the state of the chondrules. Are they 
whole, twisted, degenerated,
or just plain gone? This gives you clues to what petrologic type it is. The 
less OPX, and the more
degenerated the chondrules, the higher the petrologic type.
Now sound judgement must be used. Did I see what I thought, did I miss 
anything? Based on a few
more tests you decide on the petrologic type.
Now you are ready for the chemical classification(H, L, LL). You bring that 
sample to the microprobe
for analysis. A microprobe is a device that sends X-rays down a short tunnel. 
These X-rays hit a minute
portion of the sample, and become reflected. Different mineral compositions 
reflect x-rays in different ways.
This is how an elemental composition is derived. The two minerals you use are 
OPX, and olivine.
In both you try to determine how much Fe is present. This tells you what 
chemical class to put it in. H
chondrites have about 18% Fe in both minerals, L chondrites have about 22%, and 
LL chondrites have
about 26% . This is related to how much metallic Fe is in the matrix. The lower 
the percent in the minerals,
the more free Fe in the matrix.
That is why H chondrites show more metal flakes than either of the L or LLs. 
The problems are many. I
spent two hours today trying to find an OPX grain suitable for microprobe 
analysis. The grains were so
small, I kept getting too close to other minerals, that led to inaccurate 
results. 
At 75.00 an hour, this can be an expensive search. It takes about 12 hrs to do 
a really good analysis. So
as you can see there is no such thing as a free analysis. Next I found that 
what had been written about
Correo (H4) is not what I observed. I am using Correo as a model to compare the 
meteorites I am
analyzing to.
I find Correo to be of the petrologic type 5. The problem here is subjectivity. 
All meteorites are a mixture
of all petrologic types. Which type a meteorite contains the most of is usually 
what it is given. Now I must
decide to publish the change in type, or say it is just the way my research 
went.
Well I hope that everyone 

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Connection to Seaton Beach 'Find'

2007-01-24 Thread ensoramanda
Hi

The first I have heard of this too...it seemed to imply it was found 
using his metal detector...so dubious about Martian!!!

I can only think that it was Rob Elliot it was shown to also!

Graham Ensor, Nr Barwell UK

Rob McCafferty wrote:

Mr Pavey continued: I took it to Eve's in Seaton
and they put
me onto an expert in Scotland, so I flew up there
and had it
checked out.

He compared it to other specimens and said it was
almost
definitely a meteorite from Mars.

I often carry a bit around to show different
people.




I wonder who he spoke to? There can't be many experts
in Scotland.  Maybe it was Rob Elliott? It certainly
wasn't me (couldn't be, it was seen by an expert).
This is the first anyone in the British and Irish
Meteorite Society have heard about it, I think.
Wouldn't mind taking a look at it myself.

Once again, there's the report of it being warm,
possibly hours later. 
Uh-oh! I feel an attack of cynicism coming
on...must...take...medication...

Where the heck IS Seaton, anyway?

Rob McC


 

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[meteorite-list] New Jersey Meteorite That Hit Home To Be Displayed

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070124/NEWS01/70124021/1004/living

Meteorite that hit home to be displayed
Associated Press
January 24, 2007

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) -- It caused a sensation earlier this month
when it crashed through the roof of a Freehold Township family's home,
landing in the bathroom.

Now members of the public will have a chance to catch a glimpse of the
golf ball-sized, silvery meteorite that came to the Garden State from
outer space, Rutgers University announced Wednesday.

Rutgers' geology museum in New Brunswick plans to hold a one-day display
of the meteorite during its annual open house, scheduled for Saturday.
Admission is free.

Two geologists from Rutgers, along with an independent metallurgist,
helped Freehold Township police and the homeowners, the Nageswaran
family, identify the golf-ball-sized, 13-ounce object as a metal-rich
meteorite, possibly from the deep interior of a broken-up asteroid.

The Nageswarans recently said they were still deciding what to do with
their meteorite, but wanted it to serve an educational purpose.

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[meteorite-list] Comet McNaught Discovered While Searching For Killer Asteroids

2007-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2objectid=10419945  

Encounters too close for comfort
New Zealand Herald
January 20, 2007

AUSTRALIA - Australian astronomer Rob McNaught was looking for something
much darker and deadlier when he found the dazzling comet that now bears
his name.

I was looking for NEOs or near earth objects, he says, asteroids and
defunct comets that have orbits that cross ours and could therefore one
day collide with our planet and cause massive destruction.

Or killer asteroids, such as the one that hit the Gulf of Mexico 65
million years ago and wiped out much of life on Earth - including, many
scientists say, the dinosaurs. Even the small cometary fragment that
exploded over Siberia, in the Tunguska Event of June 30, 1908, produced
as much force as a 20-megaton hydrogen bomb.

Had it slammed into the atmosphere over a major city it would have
burned millions of people to death. But Comet McNaught is neither killer
asteroid nor rogue comet. In August, McNaught was scanning images taken
by a telescope on Siding Spring Mountain, New South Wales, during an
NEO-hunting sky patrol.

He found a point of light where none should have been. It was identified
- from its motion against the stars, and by using spectroscopic analysis
- as an incoming comet that had passed near the sun, deep inside the
orbit of Mercury.

The patrol is regarded by McNaught and his colleague Gordon Garradd as
far more important than a spectacle intriguing the millions of people
who have seen Comet McNaught.

We are tracking potentially dangerous objects, including some that will
come so close to Earth or the other planets that their orbits may be
speeded up or slowed down or bent in a way that puts them on a collision
course with Earth with little warning, Garradd says. One such object is
Apophis, a small asteroid about 320m wide, that was discovered in 2004.

On Friday, April 13, 2029, Apophis will pass Earth so low that it will
plunge under the orbit of many dozens of communications satellites
positioned 35,786km above the equator. It will appear as a steadily
moving bright star crossing the skies of western Asia, the Middle East,
Africa and Europe - all in a mere 30 minutes.

Apophis is going to be a graphic example of how easily a near-Earth
encounter could set up a subsequent collision, Garradd says.

It only has to pass through a 'keyhole' 600m wide when it dives under
or through the satellites in 2029 to have its orbit sufficiently bent to
hit us on April 13, 2036.

This object has been crossing Earth's orbit unseen around twice a year
for centuries. But now that it has been found it is also entering a
period where many of its crossings occur when Earth is in its vicinity,
rather than on the other side of the sun.

The astronomers say that if it hits a satellite in 2029 it would be like
an insect hitting a truck windscreen at a speed of 30km a second.

And while Apophis is well below the threshold diameters of one to two
kilometres - where it could threaten mankind with similar global
devastation that killed the dinosaurs - it is about 40 times larger than
the calculated size of the Tunguska object, or the equivalent of more
than 800 megatons of dynamite if its kinetic energy were released in a
collision.

McNaught says that if Apophis proves to be a loose clump of boulders
such as near-Earth asteroid Itokawa, examined close up by the Japanese
probe Hayabusa in 2005, an impact with a large satellite might make it
slowly expand into a cloud of objects, a potentially ugly scenario if it
led to a later encounter with a sky full of Tunguska-sized fireballs.

However, if Aphophis proves to be a dense metallic asteroid, rich in
nickel or iron, there would be a very bright flash and Apophis would
continue on as if nothing had happened.

Both astronomers emphasise that such scenarios are conjecture, but that
their Siding Spring Survey work is part of a methodical and serious
programme to identify potentially hazardous objects.

This is to give mankind as much warning as possible of a serious risk of
collision - and perhaps to intercept and deflect them.

The simplest and increasingly most popular concept involves the
space-tug technique - putting a heavy satellite in orbit around the
dangerous object to modify its trajectory away from Earth.

The Siding Spring survey is part of a small network of sky patrol
telescopes funded by by Nasa.

Last year, Siding Spring found 400 NEOs, or 60 per cent of all such
objects discovered that year, plus Comet McNaught - the Great Comet of 2007.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Jersey Meteorite That Hit Home To Be Displayed

2007-01-24 Thread Matt Morgan
Did I miss it, but has any REAL scientific study been done on this 
suspected meteorite?
This is a lot of hubbub for piece of metal.
Matt

Ron Baalke wrote:
 http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070124/NEWS01/70124021/1004/living

 Meteorite that hit home to be displayed
 Associated Press
 January 24, 2007

 NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) -- It caused a sensation earlier this month
 when it crashed through the roof of a Freehold Township family's home,
 landing in the bathroom.

 Now members of the public will have a chance to catch a glimpse of the
 golf ball-sized, silvery meteorite that came to the Garden State from
 outer space, Rutgers University announced Wednesday.

 Rutgers' geology museum in New Brunswick plans to hold a one-day display
 of the meteorite during its annual open house, scheduled for Saturday.
 Admission is free.

 Two geologists from Rutgers, along with an independent metallurgist,
 helped Freehold Township police and the homeowners, the Nageswaran
 family, identify the golf-ball-sized, 13-ounce object as a metal-rich
 meteorite, possibly from the deep interior of a broken-up asteroid.

 The Nageswarans recently said they were still deciding what to do with
 their meteorite, but wanted it to serve an educational purpose.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Could it be.... Frank's Article Dated 20 Mar 1997

2007-01-24 Thread Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge

Hello Bernd and All,

thank you very much for the article.
I have read some articles on classification, but this one written by Frank 
Stroik is easily understood.

I do have a better idea of how classifying a meteorite is done now.
I can see also how mistakes are made, also given the time one has to put in 
to have the proper result.
Do you think with so many NWAs being classified that some are done faster 
than others and I don't mean only NWAs?

So I have heard before that some universities have a different outcome.
Having read the article its better understood why.

With best regards,
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[meteorite-list] re-Classified - NWA 4472 KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia

2007-01-24 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List of Lunar Lovers,

It is my pleasure to announce that NWA 4472 and its recent pairing have been 
re-classified as KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia. Congratulations to all who 
have purchased this exciting material. The new classification is far more 
rare than the previously assigned class. Here is my revised description I 
use for eBay sales of NWA 4472:


NWA 4472 Lunar KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia Meteorite




... NWA 4472, a new and very unique Lunar KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia 
meteorite. It has the very rare minerals tranquillityite and zircon, along 
with rare granophyric clasts known in some Apollo 14 breccias. 
Tranquillityite was first identified in the interstitial, last crystallizing 
regions (mesostasis) of Apollo 11 mare basalts. The Total Known Weight of 
NWA 4472 is just 64.3 grams in a single stone! Although another 188 gram 
stone surfaced and was determined to be paired to NWA 4472, it is an 
extremely rare and collectible meteorite that is closely related to the 
unobtainable SAU 169 Lunar KREEP-rich meteorite from Oman.



Link to 35.3 gram Main Mass Image:

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/nwa4472mainmass1.jpg



Here is some specific information prepared by scientists at the University 
of Washington:



NWA 4472

Lunar KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia

Purchased Morocco 2006



Breccia consisting of clasts and mineral debris derived from KREEP-rich 
basalts and related granophyric rocks.  The basalt clasts are composed of 
pigeonite, olivine, calcic plagioclase, ilmenite, Ti-chromite, baddeleyite, 
Na-Mg-bearing merrillite and troilite; FeO/MnO ratios measured for the mafic 
silicates are within the ranges for lunar rocks.  The granitic clasts 
consist of ribbon-like intergrowths of a silica polymorph (probably 
tridymite) with potassium feldspar (probably sanidine) and accessory 
baddeleyite, zircon and rare tranquillityite (a Ti-Fe-Zr-silicate first 
described in mesostasis regions of Apollo 11 mare basalts).  Similar 
granophyric clasts are present in some Apollo 14 breccias.  This specimen 
also contains scattered clasts of silica (more than in any other lunar 
meteorite specimen we have examined), fayalite (intergrown with silica), 
baddeleyite, zircon, ilmenite (with baddeleyite inclusions), Ni-bearing 
metal and schreibersite (the last two possibly from exotic impactors).

=



Here are some false-color back-scattered electron images of clasts in NWA 
4472:



Granophyric clast composed of ribbon-like intergrowth of silica (blue) and 
K-feldspar (green).

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts1.jpg



Granophyric intergrowth clasts (blue and green), pyroxene (red) and 
troilite+metal (white).

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts2.jpg



Granophyric intergrowth clast (blue and green).

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts3.jpg



Fayalite-rich clast (yellow) associated with silica+K-feldspar intergrowth, 
troilite, merrillite, pigeonite and glass.

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts4.jpg



Small glass sphere, probably impact melt droplet (diagonal line are 
polishing scratches).

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts5.jpg



Glassy clast with fine quench crystals.

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/ts6.jpg



Link to list of Lunar meteorites - Washington University in St. Louis:

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm



Additional studies currently being performed at several institutions 
include; bulk chemical analyses, cosmic ray and terrestrial age 
determinations, along with a whole host of other scientific analysis, which 
may reveal additional secrets hidden within this unusual lunar meteorite. 
NWA 4472 is of considerable scientific interest because the relatively 
abundant sanidine containing potassium that decays to argon, and 
zirconium-rich minerals, which always contain uranium that decays to lead. 
These minerals will permit very precise age dating of NWA 4472.


Best regards,
Greg


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[meteorite-list] AD - 2 New Martians

2007-01-24 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members,

To help kick off the start of the Tucson Show, I would like to announce two 
new Martian meteorites I acquired last year, NWA 4480 and NWA 4527. They are 
both outstanding examples from the red planet, but one of them stands out 
more than the other. It is NWA 4480, an unpaired and new evolved Ferroan
Basaltic Shergottite. It is unlike any other Martian meteorite I have seen! 
Both of these new Martian's have extremely low Total Known Weights and I
have listed all that is available of each on eBay, some selling as I was 
loading them!

Here are the direct links to these:

NWA 4480 Ferroan Basaltic Shergottite (TKW 13 grams!)
374mg (largest specimen available)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078522415rd=1rd=1
202mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078523483rd=1rd=1
192mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078523851rd=1rd=1
112mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078524190rd=1rd=1
86mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078524993rd=1rd=1
76mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078525506rd=1rd=1
74mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078525747rd=1rd=1
54mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078527246rd=1rd=1
40mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078527626rd=1rd=1
38mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078527960rd=1rd=1
32mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078528267rd=1rd=1
30mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078529532rd=1rd=1
20mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078529941rd=1rd=1

NWA 4527 Olivine-Orthopyroxene-Phyric Shergottite (TKW 10.064 grams !!)
7.022 gram Main Mass
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078531073rd=1rd=1
10mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078532072rd=1rd=1
2mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078532301rd=1rd=1
2mg
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078532471rd=1rd=1
152mg Cutting Material
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078532980rd=1rd=1

In addition to these two new Martian meteorites, I would like to give an 
update to lunar meteorite NWA 4472 and its recent pairing. They have been
re-classified as KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia. Congratulations to all who 
have purchased some of this fantastic meteorite. I have only two slices left
and am accepting offers on the 35.3 gram Main Mass of NWA 4472 so email me 
privately if you are interested in the Main Mass. Here are the direct links
to the last two slices of NWA 4472:

NWA 4472 Lunar KREEP-rich Basaltic Breccia
35.3 gram Main Mass (not on eBay, email privately with offers)
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/nwa4472mainmass1.jpg
5.212 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078533929rd=1rd=1
2.770 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180078534427rd=1rd=1

Best regards and Good Luck to all who would like to bid on these,
Greg


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[meteorite-list] AD-Ebay ending-smaller pieces

2007-01-24 Thread Matt Morgan
I have a few auctions ending in about 4 hours with no reserve.  Please 
have a look.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmhmeteoritesQQhtZ-1
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Re: [meteorite-list] Could it be....

2007-01-24 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Frank at that time was at U of Wyoming and was in the process of 
cataloguing an abandon pile of miss labeled meteorites that didn't fit 
in with the museum dedicated to dinosaurs.m
I miss Frank!
Dave F.
Frank and earnest

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Eric Hutton wrote:

My earliest email I have saved is from 10th May 1997


Hello Eric, Alex, and List,

The earliest email I have saved is from Thu, 20 Mar 1997 and it was written
by no less a person than Frank ... Frank Stroik for those who still remember
him.

Time really flies fast and while some list members are still here, others have
left us, ... some for good. Who still remembers good, ole Jim? Jim Hurley,
the arachnaut!

The last I ever heard from him was a mail he sent me Thu, 08 Nov 2001 and,
unfortunately, he did not sound very optimistic:

Hello Bernd,...yes, I still lurk. I have become a starving artist,
so I no longer can afford  my web sites, let alone meteorites.


Best wishes to All of Us
and THANKS A LOT
to Art!

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] 1860 New Concord NPA, Hammer Stone?

2007-01-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: The Wisconsin Daily Patriot
City: Madison, Wisconsin
Date: Tuesday, May 22, 1860
Page: 1 (of 4)

A Meteoric Shower in Ohio.

 The following is a definite and detailed account of this interesting 
and startling phenomena:

 HENDRYSBURG, O., May 9, 1860.

 Dear Professor: - You will doubtless see in the papers an account of a 
shower of meteoric stones that fell on the 1st inst., near the village of 
Concord, in Muskingum County, Ohio. Lest you should think it a hoax, or at 
least an incorrect account. I have taken such pains as circumstances would 
permit to obtain as near as possible all the facts and circumstances 
connected with it.
 The shower took place between 12 and 1 o'clock p.m.  The day was 
unusually cool for the season of the year, and the sky about two-thirds 
overcast with clouds. Simultaneously with the fall of the stones a 
tremendous explosion took place in the atmosphere.  To there near by it 
resembled a severe clap of thunder in sound, but was accompanied by a 
jarring sound, which, together with the noise, was felt and heard at a much 
greater distance than the effect of thunder. It was observed and remarked as 
something peculiar by persons fifty miles off.  I was at the time about 
thirty miles distant, and so extraordinary was the detonation and jarring 
sensation that I thought it (although an unknown occurrence in this region) 
an earthquake shock; in that, such was the general opinion of all who heard 
it. To those near where the stones fell several distinct reports were heard 
- accounts very from six to twelve; they were in rapid succession, perhaps 
not over a second of time between them.
 So strange was the sensation that cattle in the fields ran started at 
it.  Four stones were seen to fall and have been recovered, but the 
probabilities are that many others fell. Two, which fell within about six 
hundred yards of each others, were seen by a couple of men who were laboring 
in a field. Hearing the reports one of the men looked up and saw a large 
body fall into a field close by; the other, looking in another direction, 
saw another which fell upon a fence. Within about twenty minutes they 
approached and dug out the one which had fallen on the field, where it had 
buried itself to the depth of about twenty inches in the still limestone 
soil. It was still so hot that it could scarcely be held in the hands. From 
the direction in which it entered the earth its fall appeared to be 
vertical.  Its weight was fifty-one pounds, and its shape irregular, long 
and flattened, but resembling somewhat the enclosed sketch. It entered the 
ground point foremost.
 The other, which fell upon the fence, weighed forty-two pounds. In its 
descent it cut through the rails on the fence, and buried itself in the 
earth, having a direction apparently from the north-east. About one and a 
half-miles from where these two stones fell, a young man plowing a field, 
heard a strange, whizzing sound overhead, and, looking up, saw the clouds in 
a strange state of commotion. (The same with regard to the agitation of the 
clouds was observed by others.) Thinking that he heard something fall, upon 
searching he found a stone weighing thirty-six pounds, which had fallen 
upon, and imbedded itself in a decaying log. - It was supposed that it had 
in its fall a direction from the south-east.
 Near Claysville, about six miles distant, two gentlemen walking out 
heard the explosion, and very soon afterward a stone weighing four lbs. fell 
near them, striking the ground so obliquely as to ricochet. The direction of 
this appeared to be from the north. The four stones about mentioned were all 
there were seen to fall, another, however, was found which had fallen in the 
woods and lodged in the earth among a thick cluster of roots surrounding a 
beach tree. It weighed about thirty pounds, and appeared to have fallen 
vertically. All of the stones were irregular in figure and had the same 
general appearance, having a blackened smooth vitrilited surface. This 
exterior coating was, however, very thin - not one-fiftieth of an inch in 
thickness. Within the stones had an ashy color, and contained fine particles 
of some shining substances, probably native nickel. Enclosed I send you a 
very small specimen which I picked off a large lump. It was my desire to 
send you a large piece, of, if possible one of the stones entire, but all 
except the largest one were broken up and the pieces distributed along 
persons who, while the marvel last, attach to them great value. The largest 
one (yet unbroken) is the possession of A. S. Milholland, from who, if 
desirable, you might possibly obtain it for the Smithsonian.
 You could, I presume, obtain further information and probably a 
specimen by writing to Dr. M. McConnell or the Rev. Mr. Seigfred, at 
Concord, Ohio. I write under very unfavorable circumstances, but hope that 
you will be able to decipher it.

Yours truly,
JND, Tidball, 

[meteorite-list] 1860 New Concord NPA, early account

2007-01-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Janesville Daily Gazette
City: Janesville, Wisconsin
Date: Tuesday Evening, May 8, 1860
Page: 3 (of 8)

 AN EARTHQUAKE IN EASTERN OHIO - The Columbus Fact of Thursday evening, 
says:
 On Tuesday last the counties of Guernsey, Belmont and Harrison, in 
eastern Ohio, were visited by an earthquake, more serious than any preceding 
one which there is any record in this section of the country.
 The earthquake lasted for about thirty minutes (or seconds?) producing 
the most intense excitement among the inhabitants,  and striking terror to 
the heart of all who happened to be within its range.  At Cambridge, 
Barnesville and other points, the citizens assembled together in the 
streets, and prayed for a safe deliverance from the destined face which 
seemed impending.
  Probably the most singular feature of the event, long to be remembered 
by those who saw and felt it, was the falling of what is supposed to be 
meteoric stones in various portions of that locality. Four large stones, 
weighing from forty to sixty pounds each fell on or near the track of the 
Central Ohio Railroad, near Concord, burying themselves in the ground two 
feet, while at Claysville, south-east of Cambridge, and other portions of 
the country, stones of the same quality, but in greater quantities, fell to 
the earth.
 The Cambridge Jeffersonian of Friday makes the following mention of the 
matter:
 No little excitement has arisen from the report that the rumbling sound 
which alarmed the delicate nerves of so many of our fair sex, on Tuesday 
last, was caused by the falling of a shower of stones, coming in an oblique 
direction toward the south-east.
 The specimens that we have seen are angular, of light-gray color 
internally, and of dark metallic on the outside. They are very compact and 
heavy.

(end)

Mark Note: This article refers to the New Concord meteorite.  This meteorite 
fell in Muskingum county, Ohio on May 1, 1860 at 12:45 p.m.  More then 
thirty pieces, 227 kg., of this L6 stone chondrite was recovered. 
(Reference: Meteorites A to Z: Second Edition).


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[meteorite-list] 1860 New Concord NPA, more reports...

2007-01-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Whitewater Register
City: Whitewater, Wisconsin
Date: Saturday, May 19, 1860
Page: 1 (of 4)

Fall of Meteoric Stones in Ohio.

From the Zanesville Courier

 An extraordinary phenomenon occurred on Tuesday, about noon, which has 
been noticed in many counties in Eastern Ohio. This occurrence, although it 
may be incredible to some, was certainly noticed by many in different 
localities about the same time. In this city the explosion or noise was 
distinctly heard. At New Concord, sixteen miles east, a gentleman who was 
out in his field heard a large crash, similar to sharp thunder, a succession 
of which lasted half a minute, and then died away, like the sound of a 
receding train of cars. On looking up he observed an object descending, with 
great rapidity, in an angling direction, and on marking where it touched the 
earth, he there found a stone imbedded two feet in the earth, and somewhat 
warm, weighing 52 lbs. Another was found of 56 lbs., one of 40 and one of 86 
lbs., in weight, all within the circumference of a few miles. A small 
portion of one of these we have in our sanctum.
 At Bellair the concussion was so strong as to force open the large 
doors of a car house.
 At Malaga some of the inhabitances wore frightened, thinking of an 
earthquake. The shock at Barnesville seemed to jar the buildings to their 
foundations.
 Some boys were out in the woods near McConnellsville, which is perhaps 
thirty miles from Concord, and observed what they termed a large red ball 
descending to the earth with a fiery tail to it, but were so frightened as 
to immediately return home.

From the Columbus Statesman, May 5th.

 A correspondent in New Concord, Muskingum County, in a letter published 
in the Statesman on Tuesday morning, mentioned a singular phenomenon in that 
neighborhood on Tuesday. It was an astounding noise in the sky like the roar 
of a cannon, which was followed by the fall of a number of stones, weighing 
from two to fifty pounds. Since the date of our correspondent's note we have 
received other letters from the same region of country, which not only 
corroborate his statement, but add greatly to the singularity of the 
phenomena. It appears that the noise alluded to was heard through a wide 
range of country, and that stones of the kind described were found freshly 
imbedded in the earth in the same manner, miles apart.
 In Morgan, Muskingum, Coshocton, Morrow and Tuscarawas County the 
explosion was distinctly head. Near McConnellsville several boys observed a 
huge stone descend to the earth, which they averred looked like a red ball, 
leaving a line of smoke in its wake. A gentleman walking the field, near New 
Concord, hard a terrific crash like thunder , which lasted half a minute, 
and then plainly saw a large body descending through the air in an angling 
direction, with a velocity apparently much greater then it could have 
attained by its own momentum. Going to the spot where it touched the ground, 
he found a rock weighing over fifty pounds, embedded in the earth a depth of 
two feet. The phenomena seems to be unprecedented. These stones were found 
nearly fifty miles apart, although the explosion was heard at all the places 
mentioned from the direction of New Concord. Houses were shaken by the 
shock, and in one or two instances the doors bursted open. It occasioned a 
great deal of consternation in that section of the country, as well it 
might.

(end)

Mark Note: This article refers to the New Concord meteorite.  This meteorite 
fell in Muskingum county, Ohio on May 1, 1860 at 12:45 p.m.  More then 
thirty pieces, 227 kg., of this L6 stone chondrite was recovered. 
(Reference: Meteorites A to Z: Second Edition).


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[meteorite-list] 1860 New Concord NPA...one more

2007-01-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Dawsons Fort Wayne Daily Times
City: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 1860
Page: 7 (of 10)

 ONE OF THE METEORIC STONES. - The Ohio State Journal of the 18th, 
speaking of the recent meteoric showers in Guernsey county, of that State, 
says: One of the meteors has been laid upon our table by Mr. John Burdick, 
of this city, who dug it from its concealment in the bosum of the earth on 
his farm in Guernsey county. The meteor flashed upon our astonished vision, 
perfectly docile, a black, wedge-shaped mass of conglomerate rock, with a 
very mysterious smell. The meteor weighs just nine pounds, and was seen to 
descend like a streak of lightning blazing like molten iron. It penetrated 
the earth about a foot and a half, leaving a huge hole. Mr. Burdick has 
several of these missiles of Heaven's artillery, which he will exhibit to 
the curious at his residence.

(end)

Hello all,

I have found a dozen or more other New Concord 1860 NPA's, but the one 
posted have the most good information.  None referenced the meteorite 
hitting any animal, however the very detailed report (a letter sent to the 
Smithsonian) notes it as having broken a fence.  So New Concord is likely a 
hammer, but not an animal smacker as some have suggested in the past.

Clear Skies,
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[meteorite-list] QMIG update

2007-01-24 Thread Bob WALKER
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QMIG site update

www.rawnet.com.au/~qwalkra1/

Firstly - apologies to all - there actually is another recent find called 
Winton 1 a 800 g stone ? H4 - three from Winton and not the two only that 
I had thought - whoops - falls page updated (tho this is a find)

News is on new finds page until I revamp the site on the weekend to make it 
all a bit neater and tidier

Hammond Downs, Tookabarnoo and Mulga (? another unknown Queenslander) are on 
the way

I may have snaffled some Arrabury and another unknown Queenslander (Opal 
Corner) - wait out

I'm still trying to get Wynella and Georgetown and Hidden Valley as my next 
foray

As prev - my sincere thanx to any and all who have helped - you know who you 
are -  an enormous amount of work happens behind the scenes - none of this 
happens without the assistance and contributions of many

Cheers 

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Re: [meteorite-list] What a beauty

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:50:42 -0600, you wrote:

Anybody who loves oriented meteorites has to take a look at this
http://cgi.ebay.com/A-flight-oriented-meteorite-Villalbeto-de-la-Pena-Nr-25_W0QQitemZ30007185QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 


So, now that the auction is over-- the price isn't vast enough to make it clear
that people knew that it wasn't an acutal meteorite that they were bidding on,
but $55 for a 13 page recent booklet seems pretty high to me-- and the top
bidders had low feedback ratings.  So I'm guessing that they didn't know what
they were bidding on, as I had predicted.
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[meteorite-list] Fireball on the east coast

2007-01-24 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
Anyone on the east coast witness a large green  fireball falling low on the 
horizon at approximate. 7:30 EST? It was the largest  I've seen in years. Had a 
smaller companion trailing behind  it.

Sincerely,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932  Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South  Carolina
29316-7401
USA
http://www.spacerocksinc.com  

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[meteorite-list] Cape York - exposed Widmanstätt en structure?

2007-01-24 Thread Michael Murray
Hello Meteorite list,
Here's a question/topic I would imagine the list has seen before.  I  
have read somewhere that a piece of the Cape York meteorite, possibly  
Ahnighito, has a place on it which shows an exposed Widmanstätten  
structure due to a softer layer of the outside being ablated away.   
(Don't hold me to that being fact, I'm going off memory here)  If I  
am remembering this correctly, I would like to ask if anyone on the  
list has taken a picture of that feature?  If so, would you be  
willing to share a link to it so that I can take a look at it?  My  
interest stems from my having this little stone with what appears to  
be a structure showing.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/mmurray_02/IMG_0178-1.jpg


Michael Murray
nom de plume - Rockbiter
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cape York - exposed Widmanstätt en structure?

2007-01-24 Thread Carl Saconn
Mike,

 Here's a link to the photo I was referring to:

http://www.muonionalustameteorites.com/1kg_1w.jpg


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Hello Meteorite list,
Here's a question/topic I would imagine the list has seen before.  I
have read somewhere that a piece of the Cape York meteorite, possibly
Ahnighito, has a place on it which shows an exposed Widmanstätten
structure due to a softer layer of the outside being ablated away.
(Don't hold me to that being fact, I'm going off memory here)  If I
am remembering this correctly, I would like to ask if anyone on the
list has taken a picture of that feature?  If so, would you be
willing to share a link to it so that I can take a look at it?  My
interest stems from my having this little stone with what appears to
be a structure showing.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/mmurray_02/IMG_0178-1.jpg


Michael Murray
nom de plume - Rockbiter

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball on the east coast

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:06:21 EST, you wrote:

Anyone on the east coast witness a large green  fireball falling low on the 
horizon at approximate. 7:30 EST? It was the largest  I've seen in years. Had 
a 
smaller companion trailing behind  it.

No, but I just heard something about it as breaking news on my local news
station.
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - January 25, 2007

2007-01-24 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_25.html  

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[meteorite-list] [ebay] ending in about a day

2007-01-24 Thread stan .
Hello all. Here is my last bunch of auctions for a little while - getting 
ready for tucson as i type this, desperatly trying to finish up some last 
minute work this week i have an absolutly killer piece of seymchan thats 
about 80% pallasitic with a nice big 'blob' blob of metal showing the 
typical awsome dual bandwidth widmanstatten pattern and nuewman lines 
typical of seymchan. The piece is alsmot 5 wide and cut only about 2.5 mm 
thick - so the crystals are nearly all translucent - really one of the best 
seymchans of it's size i have ever seen. It's at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/fully-gem-olivine-seymchan-pallasite-meteorite_W0QQitemZ280072436676QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

all of my auctions are viewable at:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlaserprogramQQhtZ-1

remeber to scroll past the laser junk - unless you want a 1.8 tesla 
electromagnet capible of ripping a screwdriver out of your hands! Auction 
end times start at 19:15 PST on thursday the 25th... I have a bunch of 
questions I'm behind on answering from these auctions. been swamped getting 
ready to leave for the show. I'll try to get them all banged out in the 
morning.


See ya at the show for those who are going!

TIA!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball on the east coast

2007-01-24 Thread Darren Garrison
Visible in Tennesse, too.  There is a photo (apparently a frame from a video) on
this page:

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=41612provider=top
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[meteorite-list] brilliant!

2007-01-24 Thread Dave Harris
Hi Frank!
 
 
Thanks for the 101 on IDing and classification of meteorites!  Brilliant -
now I wish I had a bunch of thins sections, a petrological scope and you
next to me pointing out the obvious!
This is an arcane art!
Much appreciated
 


Dave
IMCA #0092
Sec.BIMS
www.bimsociety.org
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