[meteorite-list] Help with stewn field diagram

2008-07-24 Thread David Allepuz

Hello list,

I'm going to start drawing the strewn field of a new meteorite find.
As I have to draw 86 different positions and the 86 circles with an area 
proportional to massI'm wandering...Is there any soft, any aplication, 
any trick, to make this tedious job easy ?


How do you do it?

Thank you.

David Allepuz
Obs.Sant Julià de Vilatorta
Catalonia
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Re: [meteorite-list] New possible impact structures detected

2008-07-24 Thread Mark Ford
Hi Uwe,

Not sure about the Peru one, it looks like a military training range or 
similar! - scan to the south and there are some burned out building it's like a 
firing range or similar, so could be a bomb crater? 

The Antarctica one is difficult to say, as the resolution is way too low on 
google to see any detail, could be anything ice makes all kind of patterns!

Best,
Mark


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Good evening list,
Using GOOGLE I have found two possible impact structures, which are 
nowhere to be found. Would you please be so kind to control my 
assumption.
Peru: 17°34'09.00'' S; 69°40'53.59'' W
Antarctica: 80°49'60.00'' S; 126°19'60.00'' E

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Re: [meteorite-list] New possible impact structures detected

2008-07-24 Thread drtanuki
Hello Mark, Uwe and List,
  Thank you both for your posts.
  Mark I do not see any evidence for any military activity to the South.  The 
darkened areas around the animal pens are manure and the buildings are all 
intact. 
  The circular target that Uwe has found is difficult to determine just what 
it is because of its size and the poor resolution of the image.  Elevations at 
the site do not indicate a circular depression and tilted images only reveal 
that is is on a hillslope.
  Mark is correct that the Antarctica image is just too poor to tell anything.  
  Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo


--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Mark Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mark Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New possible impact structures detected
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:17 PM
 Hi Uwe,
 
 Not sure about the Peru one, it looks like a military
 training range or similar! - scan to the south and there
 are some burned out building it's like a firing range
 or similar, so could be a bomb crater? 
 
 The Antarctica one is difficult to say, as the resolution
 is way too low on google to see any detail, could be
 anything ice makes all kind of patterns!
 
 Best,
 Mark
 
 
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 Good evening list,
 Using GOOGLE I have found two possible impact structures,
 which are 
 nowhere to be found. Would you please be so kind to control
 my 
 assumption.
 Peru: 17°34'09.00'' S;
 69°40'53.59'' W
 Antarctica: 80°49'60.00'' S;
 126°19'60.00'' E
 
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[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ending

2008-07-24 Thread Jim Strope

Good Morning All

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just at 99  Cents with the execption of a 4.6 KG Gibeon:

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Thanks for looking 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Help with stewn field diagram

2008-07-24 Thread wahlperry

Hi David,
What I like to use is my Magellan mapping program. On all of my finds, 
I map the locations and they are downloaded to my GPS. When all the 
information is downloaded to the computer it produces a nice map . I 
would also back up all the information and way points.


Sonny

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Hello list, 
 
I'm going to start drawing the strewn field of a new meteorite find. 
As I have to draw 86 different positions and the 86 circles with an 
area proportional to massI'm wandering...Is there any soft, any 
aplication, any trick, to make this tedious job easy ? 

 
How do you do it? 
 
Thank you. 
 
David Allepuz 
Obs.Sant Julià de Vilatorta 
Catalonia 
SPAIN 
 
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[meteorite-list] A new way to collect Mars samples

2008-07-24 Thread MeteorHntr
Hey Guys,

Maybe NASA could get these guys  to bring us some Martian samples.  They 
would be real fresh samples and it  should cost us far less than $8 Billion 
dollars that the other idea they floated  would cost.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html  

Think of it as a bartering plan, something like how the settlers here in  
America did early on with the natives.  We could trade something we have  extra 
of for something else that we don't have yet.

It could be a win-win  deal.

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Re: [meteorite-list] A new way to collect Mars samples

2008-07-24 Thread Moni Waiblinger

Good morning ALL!  

And what would this possibly be what we have and the little aliens do not have?
With their abilities to be coming and going and supposedly controlling us, I 
wonder what it could be.

I mean they even zap us up into their UFOs.
They have any kind of meteorites, I am sure.

This is funny to think about.

With best regards,
Moni


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 Hey Guys,

 Maybe NASA could get these guys to bring us some Martian samples. They
 would be real fresh samples and it should cost us far less than $8 Billion
 dollars that the other idea they floated would cost.

 http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html

 Think of it as a bartering plan, something like how the settlers here in
 America did early on with the natives. We could trade something we have extra
 of for something else that we don't have yet.

 It could be a win-win deal.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Help with stewn field diagram

2008-07-24 Thread Svend Buhl - Meteorite-Recon.com
David, all,

the easiest way would be to use MapCreator or a similar customizing software 
for topographical maps. There should be a test version obtainable. The programm 
claims to include a set of variable icons as well which may fit for your 
purpose.  

However my recommendation would be to use Fugawi 4.5 to digitlize and scale 
your map, import the respective coordinates and export your map into 
Adobe-Photoshop (CS3). This will allow a much more precise work when 
dimensioning and layouting the icons representing the find locations. You can 
easily define a set of icons, vary them, name and save them.

If you work with layers in CS3 and save them separately, you will be able to 
use the fabricated strewn field map also without the topographic layer. This 
may be desirable, in case you want to transfer the strewn field template 
afterwards on satellite charts or aerial photos as well. 

Cheers

Svend

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Hello list,

I'm going to start drawing the strewn field of a new meteorite find.
As I have to draw 86 different positions and the 86 circles with an area 
proportional to massI'm wandering...Is there any soft, any aplication, 
any trick, to make this tedious job easy ?

How do you do it?

Thank you.

David Allepuz
Obs.Sant Julià de Vilatorta
Catalonia
SPAIN

www.freewebs.com/astronomia

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Re: [meteorite-list] Gary Foote Recovery Auction

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Holmes
Thanks for all your efforts Maria. I also want to give a shout out to John 
Gwilliam for his work on the auction website. You have both done an 
admirable job.


Bob Holmes


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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Gary Foote Recovery Auction




Hello Everyone,

As much as I have hesitated to have a cut-off date for items donated for 
the Gary Foote Recovery Auction, I am going to have to so that I can get 
the auction started. If you could, please have items (or email me pictures 
and descriptions of items) at my house by 12:00 Noon PST on Thursday, July 
24th. Contact me off-list for my address if you don't already have it.


Please look in your meteorite shrines, open up those cabinets and look 
inside those boxes under your desk for any meteorites or meteorite-related 
collectables you can part with. This is an occasion where anything you can 
do will make a huge difference in Gary and CJ's life.


I have a seven-day silent auction planned and have some really terrific 
items to auction. Pictures, descriptions, minimum bids and auction rules 
will be up on John Gwilliam's website at 
http://meteoriteimpact.com/footeauction.htm soon. Bids will be taken via 
email and telephone to me and each item will be updated daily at 7:00 pm 
PST with the highest bid. I prefer that the successful bidders pay via 
PayPal but if that doesn't work for you, please let me know prior to 
bidding on an item and we will work something out.


Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions.

I don't want to get too gushy here but I have to tell you all something. 
Being the middleperson when you all get together to help someone is just 
the nicest, heartwarming feeling ever. Thank you so very much for your 
support and thank you for what you have done for Gary and CJ.


I'll post again to let you know when the auction is starting.

My best to you,
Maria
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Ma Lan
Hi Maria and Members,

Being a newby in the IMCA community, i know little about Gary Foote. I just 
know he needs help. So, i help.

Maybe biding on items by email or phone is the reason why nobody placed bid on 
them. Try it on Ebay and AD it on the list as well. Try it.

Best,
Ma Lan
IMCA #8234



--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Charles Austin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Charles Austin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:58 AM
 Mal, respectfully, you¹re out of line here.
 
 Asking people to contribute out of the goodness of their
 hearts is one
 thing; attempting to SHAME them into giving is arrogant and
 oafish and
 counterproductive.
 
 Charles A. Miller
 IMCA 1292
 
 
 
 On 7/24/08 8:26 AM, Mal Bishop
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  Dear list members,
  
  I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the
 reception/ turn-out thus far as
  related to the number of people on this list who have
 reached out and made
  some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating
 something, anything, to help a
  fellow community member who has REALLY undergone a
 horrible ordeal and still
  is in the midst of it -- not to mention what his wife,
 CJ, and other family
  members are having to deal with!  Where are all of the
 'BIG' dealers, all of
  the truly well fortuned collectors who have SO much
 that to offer up a single
  piece from their vaults of space treasure would be of
 little, if any
  noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each one
 of you think what it
  would be like if it were you in Gary's position? 
 How would you then feel
  about your treasures compared to what dark, and
 foreboding place you now find
  yourself in.  I'll be outright honest, I feel sort
 of ashamed to be associated
  with a community that apparently doesn't mind
 trying to always acquire more
  and more personal bounty from space, but are maybe
 just a little too reticent
  in giving up something, make a sacrifice to help a
 fellow 'kinsman' with the
  vary same passions and desires -- at least he did at
 one time until something
  much more important stepped in its place to unveil
 some truth of the duality
  of life.  There is fortune and good, and then there is
 much suffering, loss,
  and indescribable pain and fear around the next bend
 waiting for ANYONE at
  ANYTIME!!!
  
  I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out
 in left field, or just sound
  plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll wish
 to place on this or me, but
  all I can say is it is a shame when you have a list
 comprised of hundreds of
  folks worldwide supposedly not only interested in a
 hobby, and appear to want
  to share and communicate with one another (hence why a
 list like this exist in
  the first place, correct?), but don't seem to want
 to reach out when a time
  like this comes upon us to help one of  our
 own !!!  I know times are
  getting harder financially , especially maybe here in
 the US for a lot of us,
  but still many of us are finding it possible to still
 invest and spend on
  ourselves and indulge our hobbyist desires and whims,
 so why then can't some
  of you ,if not all, offer something to show your true
 care, compassion, and
  concern, not just for another human being, but for one
 of us for goodness
  sakes!
  
  Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful
 responses due to my
  putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may
 not belong, but it is
  rather disgusting to see talk always going on about
 what's for sale, what I
  want, what can I acquire, while rarely anything is
 mentioned about Gary's
  plight save for our resident angel, Maria!  It looks
 like some basic plain old
  greed and self indulgent type behavior to me!  This is
 why we find so much
  misery in our world at any given time, and any given
 place -- it's always
  about me, me,me, me!!! Well, take just a few precious
 seconds and do some REAL
  soul searching then see what it's truly all about
 -- life I mean -- then maybe
  a few of you may come to a different realization!!!
  
  Now I'm through, I'll step of off the
 proverbial soapbox and await my stoning,
  but I felt lead to say what I did.  Oh yea, you may
 also excommunicate me as
  well if the desire is there.
  
  Thanks for your time in indulging my rant!
  
  Mal
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Farmer
I have watched this for the last few weeks, and I have decided not to 
participate for the simple reason that there seems to be a clique that has has 
formed over the last 6 or 7 years, one made up of a few people who seem to 
think that they have a mandate to take control of these charity donation/money 
raising issues and run them how they see fit. There is often a demand for 
participation, and denouncement behind the backs of those who do not donate, I 
find this repulsive. I do not like to be shamed into anything, and certainly am 
offended to the point of going to the opposite direction. The perception that 
dealers have tons of money and material just laying the garbage heap makes me 
sick. I have lots of meteorites, and no money right now, I know many of us are 
in the same boat, sales are in the crapper due to the financial genius of our 
government and the absolute greed of our wealthy businessmen and corporations. 
So please do not pretend to know my
 financial situation because I have a website filled with meteorites, at this 
time I am finding it difficult to pay my own bills, much less someone elses.

I no longer trust giving other people my meteorites, and having them be in 
charge of selling them/auctioning them. I will not discuss the specifics, but I 
know that wrongdoing has taken place in the meteorite world with such 
donations. I do not like silent auctions, gimmicks, charity auctions where 
email or phone bidding take place, out of sight and oversight everyone. Ebay 
sales with payments directly to Gary Foote would ease these concerns and halt 
any chance of fraud taking place. Many of us are having problems, my wife lost 
her job last month while I was in Europe. She is on unemployment, a whopping 
$240.00 per week in Arizona, which barely pays for a couple tanks of gas these 
days. I know of many other list members who are having financial and medical 
problems in silence, no help for them is coming. 

There is nothing wrong with organizing or aksing for help with a fellow list 
member, but while you may night recognize it, sometimes the way these things 
are done can really rub people the wrong way.
Michael Farmer




--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ma Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ma Lan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Charles Austin Miller [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 11:30 AM
 Hi Maria and Members,
 
 Being a newby in the IMCA community, i know little about
 Gary Foote. I just know he needs help. So, i help.
 
 Maybe biding on items by email or phone is the reason why
 nobody placed bid on them. Try it on Ebay and AD it on the
 list as well. Try it.
 
 Best,
 Ma Lan
 IMCA #8234
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Charles Austin Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: Charles Austin Miller
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
  To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:58 AM
  Mal, respectfully, you¹re out of line here.
  
  Asking people to contribute out of the goodness of
 their
  hearts is one
  thing; attempting to SHAME them into giving is
 arrogant and
  oafish and
  counterproductive.
  
  Charles A. Miller
  IMCA 1292
  
 
 
  
  On 7/24/08 8:26 AM, Mal Bishop
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   
   Dear list members,
   
   I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the
  reception/ turn-out thus far as
   related to the number of people on this list who
 have
  reached out and made
   some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating
  something, anything, to help a
   fellow community member who has REALLY undergone
 a
  horrible ordeal and still
   is in the midst of it -- not to mention what his
 wife,
  CJ, and other family
   members are having to deal with!  Where are all
 of the
  'BIG' dealers, all of
   the truly well fortuned collectors who have SO
 much
  that to offer up a single
   piece from their vaults of space treasure would
 be of
  little, if any
   noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each
 one
  of you think what it
   would be like if it were you in Gary's
 position? 
  How would you then feel
   about your treasures compared to what dark, and
  foreboding place you now find
   yourself in.  I'll be outright honest, I feel
 sort
  of ashamed to be associated
   with a community that apparently doesn't mind
  trying to always acquire more
   and more personal bounty from space, but are
 maybe
  just a little too reticent
   in giving up something, make a sacrifice to help
 a
  fellow 'kinsman' with the
   vary same passions and desires -- at least he did
 at
  one time until something
   much more important stepped in its place to
 unveil
  some truth of the duality
   of life.  There is fortune and good, and then
 there is
  much suffering, loss,
   and indescribable pain and 

[meteorite-list] Norton's new book, a must-have for any meteorite collector

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Farmer
I bought two of these books and was pleasently surpised to get another signed 
copy from Richard Norton in the mail a few days ago as a gift.
I have already pretty much destroyed one copy reading it, spilling coke on it, 
and creasing the pages from use. I always try to get multiple copies of these 
things, I have a large book collection, and I prefer to have no-touch copies 
and work copies. I have destroyed so many copies of the Catalog of Meteorites 
from simple overuse, I must keep buying them when I see them available. 

Anyway the Field Guide of Meteors and Meteorites is a must have, great photos, 
very simple to read and understand, and chock full of newer meteorites, not 
just the classics. You never know when it will go out of print, so I would get 
them as fast as possible if you don't have one yet.
Michael Farmer


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[meteorite-list] NASA knows about Space Aliens, audio files

2008-07-24 Thread MeteorHntr
Hey List,

Here is the actual audio clip of NASA Moon-Walking  Astronaut Dr. Edgar 
Mitchell (6th man to walk on the Moon) talking  about real space aliens on UK 
radio 
interview with Kerrang!  Radio.

http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160spid=

Interesting.   

If NASA has communication with aliens, why don't we use them to get  asteroid 
samples as well as Martian and Lunar specimens?

I only include  that last line to keep this on topic for our list.  

But it does  beg the question, what else is NASA covering up?  And if there 
is a real  cover up, I would expect they will try to shut up Dr. Mitchell very  
quickly.  Then again, if there is no real cover up, I would expect they  will 
try to shut up Dr. Mitchell very quickly. 

Should we expect that the  good Doctor will be abducted soon, and we will 
never hear from him ever  again?

NOTICE:  There is no Joke disclaimer placed ANYWHERE in  these email.

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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Farmer

I want to clarify to the list that in no way am I implicating Maria in any 
wrongdoing, it seems that is how my email came off, so I will clear this up 
right now, no Maria is not in any way who I am speaking of, they know who they 
are. 
I merely wanted to say that I and other have been scammed in bogus donation 
schemes in the meteorite-list world where money did not reach the intended 
recipient or go to the desired use. I am not going to discuss that incident 
further, so don't ask, it would serve no purpose at this point but to cause bad 
things which we don't need at this time. I will no longer just donate things to 
raise money unless it is done in a very clear way for all to see such as a live 
auction or ebay auction, only when procedes are sent directly the person, not 
through a third party or the seller. There is just too much room for mistakes 
or theft. 

Michael Farmer


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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA knows about Space Aliens, audio files

2008-07-24 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:59:37 EDT, you wrote:


Should we expect that the  good Doctor will be abducted soon, and we will 
never hear from him ever  again?


Yes, I'm sure that, within a few years, he will be placed in a nursing home for
his advancing mental decay, fading away quietly, and getting a brief footnote
obituary n the news, only a fraction the size of what would be given to an actor
or athlete.  I believe that he believes what he is saying.  I also believe that
he is a sick, confused old man.
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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA knows about Space Aliens, audio files

2008-07-24 Thread Timothy Heitz

Hi List,

You can also hear it hear also on U-Tube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXTXbi_VhJU

Astronaut Dr. Edgar
Mitchell (6th man to walk on the Moon) talking  about real space aliens on 
UK radio interview with Kerrang!  Radio.



Tim Heitz

Home of the Orignal Meteorite Pusher :)
http://www.meteorman.org/page_3.htm





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Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA knows about Space Aliens, audio files



Hey List,

Here is the actual audio clip of NASA Moon-Walking  Astronaut Dr. Edgar
Mitchell (6th man to walk on the Moon) talking  about real space aliens on 
UK radio

interview with Kerrang!  Radio.

http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160spid=

Interesting.

If NASA has communication with aliens, why don't we use them to get 
asteroid

samples as well as Martian and Lunar specimens?

I only include  that last line to keep this on topic for our list.

But it does  beg the question, what else is NASA covering up?  And if 
there
is a real  cover up, I would expect they will try to shut up Dr. Mitchell 
very
quickly.  Then again, if there is no real cover up, I would expect they 
will

try to shut up Dr. Mitchell very quickly.

Should we expect that the  good Doctor will be abducted soon, and we 
will

never hear from him ever  again?

NOTICE:  There is no Joke disclaimer placed ANYWHERE in  these email.

Steve #1




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Re: [meteorite-list] 218g Portales Valley

2008-07-24 Thread RJP
Good Afternoon,

Due to the state of the economy and the irreplaceable nature of this specimen, 
I have decided to keep it in my personal collection for another 6-12 months 
min. Thank you to all who replied to my sales Ad.  

Best Regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Farmer
Ok, lets put this to bed. 
I have received a flurry of phone calls demanding clarification, so here goes.
This event took place at least 7 years ago. It does not involve ANYONE who is 
organizing charity events these days. I am not accusing anyone who is currently 
doing these good deeds, not Notkin, or Anne Black, or Maria, come on, I am just 
in disagreement about some of the methods used, which led to myself and others 
being ripped off in the past. Money was given and much less money ended up in 
the hands of the intended recipient. This left a very bad taste in my mouth. 
This is not so complicated as people are making it out to be. 
I was offended by Mal's email. Since he publicly tried to crucify dealers and 
big collectors for not showing so much interest in helping Gary Foot by 
participating in the charity auction, I publicly responded as to my own reason 
for not being out there giving or bidding. 
I will put an item on eBay, and the buyer can pay Gary Foote directly, this 
will be my way of helping and that way I know that every cent goes to the 
intended use. 
Michael Farmer

I wish Gary and his family well, and I think it is good that people are trying 
to help him. 



--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Charles Austin Miller [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 1:32 PM
 I want to clarify to the list that in no way am I
 implicating Maria in any wrongdoing, it seems that is how
 my email came off, so I will clear this up right now, no
 Maria is not in any way who I am speaking of, they know who
 they are. 
 I merely wanted to say that I and other have been scammed
 in bogus donation schemes in the meteorite-list world where
 money did not reach the intended recipient or go to the
 desired use. I am not going to discuss that incident
 further, so don't ask, it would serve no purpose at
 this point but to cause bad things which we don't need
 at this time. I will no longer just donate things to raise
 money unless it is done in a very clear way for all to see
 such as a live auction or ebay auction, only when procedes
 are sent directly the person, not through a third party or
 the seller. There is just too much room for mistakes or
 theft. 
 
 Michael Farmer
 
 
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[meteorite-list] myopic?

2008-07-24 Thread Darryl Pitt



however well-meaning the intentions, the commentary below is indeed  
self-indulgent and naive.


however, as i would so like to believe the comments were well- 
meaning, perhaps it's time to show some charity to mal by moving on.







On Jul 24, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Dave Carothers wrote:


Mal,

I must say that I'm somewhat disappointed in the arrogant and  
condescending comments you made on the list.


Dave Carothers
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Behalf Of Mal Bishop

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:27 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame



Dear list members,

I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the reception/ turn-out  
thus far as related to the number of people on this list who have  
reached out and made some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating  
something, anything, to help a fellow community member who has  
REALLY undergone a horrible ordeal and still is in the midst of it  
-- not to mention what his wife, CJ, and other family members are  
having to deal with!  Where are all of the 'BIG' dealers, all of  
the truly well fortuned collectors who have SO much that to offer  
up a single piece from their vaults of space treasure would be of  
little, if any noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each  
one of you think what it would be like if it were you in Gary's  
position?  How would you then feel about your treasures compared to  
what dark, and foreboding place you now find yourself in.  I'll be  
outright honest, I feel sort of ashamed to be associated with a  
community that apparently doesn't mind trying to always acquire  
more and more personal bounty from space, but are maybe just a  
little too reticent in giving up something, make a sacrifice to  
help a fellow 'kinsman' with the vary same passions and desires --  
at least he did at one time until something much more important  
stepped in its place to unveil some truth of the duality of life.   
There is fortune and good, and then there is much suffering, loss,  
and indescribable pain and fear around the next bend waiting for  
ANYONE at ANYTIME!!!


I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out in left field, or  
just sound plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll wish to  
place on this or me, but all I can say is it is a shame when you  
have a list comprised of hundreds of folks worldwide supposedly not  
only interested in a hobby, and appear to want to share and  
communicate with one another (hence why a list like this exist in  
the first place, correct?), but don't seem to want to reach out  
when a time like this comes upon us to help one of  our own !!!   
I know times are getting harder financially , especially maybe here  
in the US for a lot of us, but still many of us are finding it  
possible to still invest and spend on ourselves and indulge our  
hobbyist desires and whims, so why then can't some of you ,if not  
all, offer something to show your true care, compassion, and  
concern, not just for another human being, but for one of us for  
goodness sakes!


Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful responses  
due to my putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may not  
belong, but it is rather disgusting to see talk always going on  
about what's for sale, what I want, what can I acquire, while  
rarely anything is mentioned about Gary's plight save for our  
resident angel, Maria!  It looks like some basic plain old greed  
and self indulgent type behavior to me!  This is why we find so  
much misery in our world at any given time, and any given place --  
it's always about me, me,me, me!!!  Well, take just a few precious  
seconds and do some REAL soul searching then see what it's truly  
all about -- life I mean -- then maybe a few of you may come to a  
different realization!!!


Now I'm through, I'll step of off the proverbial soapbox and await  
my stoning, but I felt lead to say what I did.  Oh yea, you may  
also excommunicate me as well if the desire is there.


Thanks for your time in indulging my rant!

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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Pete Shugar
Flames--Yes siree Bob--
You are way outta line here. You try to guilt me into giving because I just 
should
OK.
Try living on about $750 a month. Pay all your bills.
Buy food at ever higher prices. Buy gas!!
Have a nice meteorite collection of meteorites, all of which are
~5 grams or less because you can't afford the 6.2 Kg Lunar.
Even with co-pay on your meds, it's too much.
Choose to be either healthy or hungry
Choose to either walk (you're cripple) or ride, (oops
can't afford the gas).
Do you see me out begging?  NO NO NO NO
I watch my pennies and look for the DEAL when buying
anything, meteorites included.
Don't you even dare to tell me I should offer something. You know
absolutely nothing about my circumstances.
Lastly, how do you know that I haven't offered something?
You owe every member of the list an apology.
 Pete
IMCA 1733  {and all around educator of the students.
( Yes, I donate to students because I am blessed to have
meteorites that they don't have so I share what I've got.)}




- Original Message - 
From: Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame




Dear list members,

I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the reception/ turn-out thus
far as related to the number of people on this list who have reached
out and made some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating something,
anything, to help a fellow community member who has REALLY undergone
a horrible ordeal and still is in the midst of it -- not to mention
what his wife, CJ, and other family members are having to deal
with!  Where are all of the 'BIG' dealers, all of the truly well
fortuned collectors who have SO much that to offer up a single piece
from their vaults of space treasure would be of little, if any
noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each one of you think
what it would be like if it were you in Gary's position?  How would
you then feel about your treasures compared to what dark, and
foreboding place you now find yourself in.  I'll be outright honest,
I feel sort of ashamed to be associated with a community that
apparently doesn't mind trying to always acquire more and more
personal bounty from space, but are maybe just a little too reticent
in giving up something, make a sacrifice to help a fellow 'kinsman'
with the vary same passions and desires -- at least he did at one
time until something much more important stepped in its place to
unveil some truth of the duality of life.  There is fortune and good,
and then there is much suffering, loss, and indescribable pain and
fear around the next bend waiting for ANYONE at ANYTIME!!!

I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out in left field, or just
sound plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll wish to place on
this or me, but all I can say is it is a shame when you have a list
comprised of hundreds of folks worldwide supposedly not only
interested in a hobby, and appear to want to share and communicate
with one another (hence why a list like this exist in the first
place, correct?), but don't seem to want to reach out when a time
like this comes upon us to help one of  our own !!!  I know times
are getting harder financially , especially maybe here in the US for
a lot of us, but still many of us are finding it possible to still
invest and spend on ourselves and indulge our hobbyist desires and
whims, so why then can't some of you ,if not all, offer something to
show your true care, compassion, and concern, not just for another
human being, but for one of us for goodness sakes!

Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful responses due
to my putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may not
belong, but it is rather disgusting to see talk always going on about
what's for sale, what I want, what can I acquire, while rarely
anything is mentioned about Gary's plight save for our resident
angel, Maria!  It looks like some basic plain old greed and self
indulgent type behavior to me!  This is why we find so much misery in
our world at any given time, and any given place -- it's always about
me, me,me, me!!!  Well, take just a few precious seconds and do some
REAL soul searching then see what it's truly all about -- life I mean
-- then maybe a few of you may come to a different realization!!!

Now I'm through, I'll step of off the proverbial soapbox and await my
stoning, but I felt lead to say what I did.  Oh yea, you may also
excommunicate me as well if the desire is there.

Thanks for your time in indulging my rant!

Mal










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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame

2008-07-24 Thread Don Rawlings
How about sending an email to Lil' Bush and the other right-wing Republicans 
that would rather see families bankrupted than doing something constructive 
about health care in this country.

Don Rawlings


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mal Bishop
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:26 AM
 Subject: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame
 
 
 
 
 Dear list members,
 
 I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the reception/
 turn-out thus
 far as related to the number of people on this list who
 have reached
 out and made some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating
 something,
 anything, to help a fellow community member who has REALLY
 undergone
 a horrible ordeal and still is in the midst of it -- not to
 mention
 what his wife, CJ, and other family members are having to
 deal
 with!  Where are all of the 'BIG' dealers, all of
 the truly well
 fortuned collectors who have SO much that to offer up a
 single piece
 from their vaults of space treasure would be of little, if
 any
 noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each one of
 you think
 what it would be like if it were you in Gary's
 position?  How would
 you then feel about your treasures compared to what dark,
 and
 foreboding place you now find yourself in.  I'll be
 outright honest,
 I feel sort of ashamed to be associated with a community
 that
 apparently doesn't mind trying to always acquire more
 and more
 personal bounty from space, but are maybe just a little too
 reticent
 in giving up something, make a sacrifice to help a fellow
 'kinsman'
 with the vary same passions and desires -- at least he did
 at one
 time until something much more important stepped in its
 place to
 unveil some truth of the duality of life.  There is fortune
 and good,
 and then there is much suffering, loss, and indescribable
 pain and
 fear around the next bend waiting for ANYONE at ANYTIME!!!
 
 I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out in
 left field, or just
 sound plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll
 wish to place on
 this or me, but all I can say is it is a shame when you
 have a list
 comprised of hundreds of folks worldwide supposedly not
 only
 interested in a hobby, and appear to want to share and
 communicate
 with one another (hence why a list like this exist in the
 first
 place, correct?), but don't seem to want to reach out
 when a time
 like this comes upon us to help one of  our own
 !!!  I know times
 are getting harder financially , especially maybe here in
 the US for
 a lot of us, but still many of us are finding it possible
 to still
 invest and spend on ourselves and indulge our hobbyist
 desires and
 whims, so why then can't some of you ,if not all, offer
 something to
 show your true care, compassion, and concern, not just for
 another
 human being, but for one of us for goodness sakes!
 
 Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful
 responses due
 to my putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may
 not
 belong, but it is rather disgusting to see talk always
 going on about
 what's for sale, what I want, what can I acquire, while
 rarely
 anything is mentioned about Gary's plight save for our
 resident
 angel, Maria!  It looks like some basic plain old greed and
 self
 indulgent type behavior to me!  This is why we find so much
 misery in
 our world at any given time, and any given place --
 it's always about
 me, me,me, me!!!  Well, take just a few precious seconds
 and do some
 REAL soul searching then see what it's truly all about
 -- life I mean
 -- then maybe a few of you may come to a different
 realization!!!
 
 Now I'm through, I'll step of off the proverbial
 soapbox and await my
 stoning, but I felt lead to say what I did.  Oh yea, you
 may also
 excommunicate me as well if the desire is there.
 
 Thanks for your time in indulging my rant!
 
 Mal
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] A question about Antarctica vs Alaska meteorite hunting.

2008-07-24 Thread Ruben Garcia

Hi all,
As most of you know I've been a professional meteorite hunter for years. 
However, my expertise is limited to the southwestern part of the United States. 

I know that many of you follow the work done in Antarctica a lot more closely 
than I do. I know that meteorites have been recovered there for over two 
decades and more recently in eastern Manitoba, Canada. All due to ancient 
glaciers and their movements. My questions are as follows: 

1)Has anyone really searched for meteorites in other glacial areas such as 
Alaska? 

2)Is there any reason to believe that meteorites wouldn't be found there? 3)Are 
the Alaskan glaciers old enough to sufficiently catch meteorites?

I may be planning a trip there and would like any advice on the subject. 

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] myopic?

2008-07-24 Thread Dave Gheesling
It might also be nice to give some charity to the Footes, as I'm sure they'd
rather not be at the eye of this ridiculous storm -- particularly at
present.  There are myriad (more, actually) causes out there for the world
to support, and if helping the Footes in some way is on your radar, great.
If not, that's fine too.  I believe this started as an IMCA fundraiser, and
I don't think Michael is even an IMCA member so it's not clear why he'd be
dragged into this anyway (or anyone else who doesn't choose the same).
Darryl's right: let it go.  What gives?
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darryl
Pitt
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:41 PM
To: Dave Carothers
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List
Subject: [meteorite-list] myopic?



however well-meaning the intentions, the commentary below is indeed
self-indulgent and naive.

however, as i would so like to believe the comments were well- meaning,
perhaps it's time to show some charity to mal by moving on.






On Jul 24, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Dave Carothers wrote:

 Mal,

 I must say that I'm somewhat disappointed in the arrogant and  
 condescending comments you made on the list.

 Dave Carothers
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Behalf Of Mal Bishop
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:27 AM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [IMCA] A Feeling Of Shame



 Dear list members,

 I must say I'm somewhat disappointed in the reception/ turn-out  
 thus far as related to the number of people on this list who have  
 reached out and made some sort of gesture of goodwill by donating  
 something, anything, to help a fellow community member who has  
 REALLY undergone a horrible ordeal and still is in the midst of it  
 -- not to mention what his wife, CJ, and other family members are  
 having to deal with!  Where are all of the 'BIG' dealers, all of  
 the truly well fortuned collectors who have SO much that to offer  
 up a single piece from their vaults of space treasure would be of  
 little, if any noticeable, loss to them!  Take a moment and each  
 one of you think what it would be like if it were you in Gary's  
 position?  How would you then feel about your treasures compared to  
 what dark, and foreboding place you now find yourself in.  I'll be  
 outright honest, I feel sort of ashamed to be associated with a  
 community that apparently doesn't mind trying to always acquire  
 more and more personal bounty from space, but are maybe just a  
 little too reticent in giving up something, make a sacrifice to  
 help a fellow 'kinsman' with the vary same passions and desires --  
 at least he did at one time until something much more important  
 stepped in its place to unveil some truth of the duality of life.   
 There is fortune and good, and then there is much suffering, loss,  
 and indescribable pain and fear around the next bend waiting for  
 ANYONE at ANYTIME!!!

 I'm sorry in advance if I'm off base, way out in left field, or  
 just sound plain bitter, angry, or what ever label ya'll wish to  
 place on this or me, but all I can say is it is a shame when you  
 have a list comprised of hundreds of folks worldwide supposedly not  
 only interested in a hobby, and appear to want to share and  
 communicate with one another (hence why a list like this exist in  
 the first place, correct?), but don't seem to want to reach out  
 when a time like this comes upon us to help one of  our own !!!   
 I know times are getting harder financially , especially maybe here  
 in the US for a lot of us, but still many of us are finding it  
 possible to still invest and spend on ourselves and indulge our  
 hobbyist desires and whims, so why then can't some of you ,if not  
 all, offer something to show your true care, compassion, and  
 concern, not just for another human being, but for one of us for  
 goodness sakes!

 Again, I know I will probably receive some distasteful responses  
 due to my putting my nose where maybe a lot of you feel it may not  
 belong, but it is rather disgusting to see talk always going on  
 about what's for sale, what I want, what can I acquire, while  
 rarely anything is mentioned about Gary's plight save for our  
 resident angel, Maria!  It looks like some basic plain old greed  
 and self indulgent type behavior to me!  This is why we find so  
 much misery in our world at any given time, and any given place --  
 it's always about me, me,me, me!!!  Well, take just a few precious  
 seconds and do some REAL soul searching then see what it's truly  
 all about -- life I mean -- then maybe a few of you may come to a  
 different realization!!!

 Now I'm through, I'll step of off the proverbial soapbox and await  
 my stoning, but I felt lead to say what I did.  Oh yea, you may  
 also excommunicate me as well if the desire is there.

 Thanks for your time in 

Re: [meteorite-list] A question about Antarctica vs Alaska meteorite hunting.

2008-07-24 Thread Ruben Garcia
Great information, Thanks!

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v


--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A question about Antarctica vs Alaska meteorite 
 hunting.
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 4:24 PM
 Hello Ruben  Good question.
 
 What makes the recovery in Antarctica is a combination of
 rare processes and not just glaciers catching up
 meteorites.   It takes a rare combination of bedrock, ice
 and wind to expose the meteorite fields in Antarctica.
 
 Meteorites falling into the main flow are likely lost
 forever.  But if it falls along the edge of the field in a
 side lobe-- not in the main glacial flow--there is a chance
 it can be exposed again.  Sometimes thousands of years
 later.  The ice in the top portion of the lobe doesn't
 scour the bedrock and stir up rock fragments like the main
 flow does and has minimal inclusions of earth rock in the
 load carried by the ice.   A lobe occurs near a bottleneck
 and is like a slow motion wave getting sloshed out of a bath
 tub-- being pushed out of the tub itself by the
 main flow and rising bedrock.  When the lobe hits the
 valley rim-- a gentle slope or buried ridge-line, the ice
 is forced  up and over it, exposing the ice to very high
 velocity and extremely dry winds. This action scours away
 the ice matrix --perhaps even sublimates some ice directly
 into water vapor.  In any event, the ice is removed by
 wind action leaving the meteorites concentrated on
  the surface.  Concentrated implies a placer
 deposit but in fact means that in fives and tens meteorites
 are exposed each season before the ice flows over the slope
 and they are reburied in ice unless recovered by the annual
 meteorite search teams.
 
 I believe that a few iron meteorites have been recovered in
 glacial moraines elsewhere but that is a different
 concentration mechanism and they certainly aren't
 separated out from the earth rock!.  Active glaciers such
 as associated with caving icebergs carry whatever load they
 have inside them into the sea.
 
 Meteorites don't seem to survive long in moist frequent
 freeze thaw environments making finding stone meteorites
 remote.  I don't know the circumstances of recent
 Canadian meteorites and couldn't say if they were
 related to glaciers.  The environment in glacial fields is
 against stones but favors irons, IMHO, so long as the ice
 doesn't make icebergs but ends in annual moraine
 building piles of debris.
 
 Elton
 
 --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ruben Garcia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I know that many of you follow the work done in Antarctica
 a lot more closely
 than I do. I know that meteorites have been recovered there
 for over two
 decades and more recently in eastern Manitoba, Canada. All
 due to ancient
 glaciers and their movements. My questions are as follows: 
 
 1)Has anyone really searched for meteorites in other
 glacial areas such as
 Alaska? 
 
 2)Is there any reason to believe that meteorites
 wouldn't be found there?
 3)Are the Alaskan glaciers old enough to sufficiently
 catchmeteorites?


  
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[meteorite-list] Calling Michael Blood!

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Listees!

I have been trying to reach Michael Blood via email, but I am having no luck.  
I think my emails might be
getting caught up spam filters.

Michael, please email me offlist. :)

BTW, my wife's routine gallbladder surgery turned into a cancer scare and a 6 
hour major surgery.  It was
the worst case of peptic ulcers the surgeon had ever seen.  Her gall bladder 
was removed, her common bile
duct was reconstructed, her duodenum was removed, and part of her small 
intestine was rerouted to her
to stomach to bypass the missing duodenum.  The surgeon was amazed that she was 
walking around with
this inside her and said it could have become life-threatening at any time.  
Her prognosis is now good,
and after 3 days in ICU and a week in the hospital, she is finally coming home 
tomorrow. :)

Now I can get back to thinking about meteorites a little bit. ;)

Regards and clear skies,

MikeG


.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA knows about Space Aliens, audio files

2008-07-24 Thread Bob King
Hi all,
Mitchell was the astronaut who performed ESP experiments while aboard
Apollo to the moon. Check out the Wikipedia entry on his interest in
the paranormal and how he believes he was healed of kidney cancer. I'd
be on the skeptical side of his alien report.
Bob

On 7/24/08, Timothy Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List,

 You can also hear it hear also on U-Tube.
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXTXbi_VhJU

 Astronaut Dr. Edgar
 Mitchell (6th man to walk on the Moon) talking  about real space aliens on
 UK radio interview with Kerrang!  Radio.


 Tim Heitz

 Home of the Orignal Meteorite Pusher :)
 http://www.meteorman.org/page_3.htm





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  Hey List,
 
  Here is the actual audio clip of NASA Moon-Walking  Astronaut Dr. Edgar
  Mitchell (6th man to walk on the Moon) talking  about real space aliens on
 UK radio
  interview with Kerrang!  Radio.
 
  http://www.kerrangradio.co.uk/Article.asp?id=804160spid=
 
  Interesting.
 
  If NASA has communication with aliens, why don't we use them to get
 asteroid
  samples as well as Martian and Lunar specimens?
 
  I only include  that last line to keep this on topic for our list.
 
  But it does  beg the question, what else is NASA covering up?  And if
 there
  is a real  cover up, I would expect they will try to shut up Dr. Mitchell
 very
  quickly.  Then again, if there is no real cover up, I would expect they
 will
  try to shut up Dr. Mitchell very quickly.
 
  Should we expect that the  good Doctor will be abducted soon, and we
 will
  never hear from him ever  again?
 
  NOTICE:  There is no Joke disclaimer placed ANYWHERE in  these email.
 
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 25, 2008

2008-07-24 Thread Michael Johnson

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_25_2008.html

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