Impact geology and subsequent paleoclimate in one package--El'gygytgyn Lake, in
Siberia is 8 miles in diameter and lies within a 3.6 million year old(myo)
impact crater. A multinational team hopes to recover 3,000,000 years worth of
ice and sediment cores from this lake plus impact breccia
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I know in my heart that you are absolutely right Elton. But there are so few
environments out here that can provide accessible search areas that it's my
last hope of following in the footsteps of all of the List's exciting
adventures.
I've even done some magnet snorkle dives driven by the
Well balanced with an edge to the sympathetic.
- Original Message -
From: Mark Crawford m...@meteorites.cc
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:32 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] More on the Younger Dryas 'impact event'
I was asked to post this to the list since the Bakers were unable to do so.
Twink Monrad
1/3/2009
Does anyone on the list know if there is a current meteor shower?
Jake and I were out walking the dogs at 5:45 this morning and saw 7 or 8
meteors.
There has been some activity every morning
Twink:
It was the Quadrantid shower which peaked in the early morning
today (5 am PST).
George
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Twink:
I was out at 6:00 a.m. putting wood in the greenhouse woodstove. During the
5 minute walk, I saw 7 meteors. The best viewing was supposed to be Out
West, but it looked pretty good here in northern Indiana.
Phil Whitmer
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Hi Twink:
Yes, got beat out on the response that it was the Quadrantids (radiates
out from a now-defunct constellation, Quadrans Muralis; mural or wall
quandrant). It also appears to be related to a 2-km asteroid, 2003 EH1.
However, going back even further, there is a lost comet, C/1490 Y1 (seen
Elton,
Well said. That is a very coherent explanation of the differences
between the two. With your permission only, I'd like to repost this
on the Cloudy Nights meteorite list. If this is OK with you, email
me offlist. :)
Best regards and clear skies,
MikeG
Hello List Members,
My new work doesn't allow me to keep working on the
Encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com website as I would like
to. I can't make the updates and make new features
available.
So I'm selling my domain name
encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com and of course the
account and the complete
Hello All,
I just added a pict of a few smaller slices of the stunning LUNAR NWA 4734.
The discount price of $ 950.00 per gram is guaranteed until January 5, 2009.
After January 5, the price will be $ 1200.00 per gram.
Five smaller slices are available: 25 mg, 75 mg, 82 mg, 110 mg, 128 mg
Top all those concerned,
If you arent concerned please delete.
Iam in no way trying to start any arguments on this list.
But these people are way out of line.
Phil Whitmer wrote on 12/30/08 :
A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the
provenance of the last
Hi folks!
Both freebies are now taken - in a record time of about 2 minutes!
Best regards to everyone and Happy New Year!
MikeG
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From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:33 AM
Larry,
Thanks for the extra info on the Quadrantids. It's good hearing from the
asteroid expert.
- John
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From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu
Sent: Saturday,
This is sad news, Pierre has done an amazing job with the
encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com site. I consider it the single most useful
meteorite site on the net (just my personal opinion, no offense to others. David
Weir's site is certainly up there too).
It seemed a labour of love for Pierre,
Hello Pierre-Marie,
I am sorry to hear that you won't have the time to maintain the Encyclopedia
of Meteorites. I understand it is a tremendous task keeping it all up to
date and appreciate the hundreds of hours of personal time you have put in
to it. I certainly could not do it! I have always
Barb and Jake wrote:
Jake and I were out walking the dogs at 5:45 this morning and saw 7 or 8
meteors
George responded:
It was the Quadrantid shower which peaked in the early morning today (5 am
PST)
Phil added:
I was out at 6:00 a.m. ... During the 5 minute walk, I saw 7 meteors
Hello
Hi friends and listees!
I am looking for a copy of Monica Grady's Catalogue of Meteorites.
The reason I am posting here, and not buying it directly from an online
book vendor, is because I am looking for a *bargain* copy.
Ideally, I'd like to find a copy with some cosmetic issues that would
Hello Matt and other List Members,
you're right about your interrogations for privacy of
the information included in the Encyclopedia of
Meteorites.
I won't be able to keep an eye on the new owner but I
wish he's a smart and respectful person who won't use
these information for his business.
Greetings Pierre and all,
Pierre, I was concerned about your comment of hoping
The new owner is not a meteorite dealer who would benefit
From the web site personally in any way.
Being a dealer puts one in a position to contribute to the
meteoritic community and not just be some
hello all;
some news from this mountain tichka fall,
most of the stone found are broken they smash the mountain and the meteorite
hit rocks of the mountain , and the result meteorite have not the time to
refresh and it become cold fastly so it gives weathered and no crusts meteorite
many
Whoa, Michael :)
Pierre said he hoped it wouldn't be purchased by someone who would use
the information for his business - which isn't the same as saying not
to a dealer. In fact, in the original posting, he explicitly said he'd
prefer to sell to an IMCA member or a well-known meteorite
Hi -
Dr. Morrison is being disingenious. If you have a fragmented comet, and we've
all seen them, then you end up with multiple comet fragments hitting - and
we've all seen that as well.
I wonder what year the impactite layer from Sandusky with the blast killed
mega-fauna will actually get
We have an accepted cosmic airburst event in recent history -- has anyone found
substantial numbers of nanodiamonds as a result of Tunguska? If (compared to
'normal' background quantities) more were found in that area and could be
linked to the airburst/impact, that would help substantiate
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
December 29, 2008 - January 2, 2009
o Channel (Released 29 December 2008)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20081229a
o Volcanic Vent (Released 30 December 2008)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20081230a
o Volcanic Vent (Released 31 December 2008)
Hi Listees,
I have a quick question for the group - why are some falls not referred
to as hammers ?
For example, Allende and Holbrook are rarely referred to as hammers,
but there are reports that both hit rooftops and other manmade
structures. Both falls are generally referred to as
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:32:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Is this simply semantics at play
Yes.
The concern with hammers is a small subset of what is already a small
community of collectors.
The only true measure of wherther something is a hammer is the level of
legitness.
Darren, Michael All,
Semantics are absolutely at play -- and this is a roughly defined element
of meteorite collecting at best -- but I'd beg to differ with them being of
concern to a small subset of what is already a small community of
collectors. Hammers (I think Blood may have introduced this
Hi Michael,
There's another way to look at it too. The two falls you mentioned were
massive and there were thousands of individual stones. In my opinion it's
only a hammer if the individual stone actually hit something. For example
you can't really say that the whole Allende fall was a hammer
In a message dated 1/3/2009 7:56:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
d...@fallingrocks.com writes:
Sylacauga is a wonderful story,
but the material available to collectors didn't hit Mrs. Hodges on the hip.
Dave,
In 1999 I brokered a couple of pieces of Sylacaga from the King Collection
that
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:53:24 -0500, you wrote:
but I'd beg to differ with them being of
concern to a small subset of what is already a small community of
collectors.
With no solid numbers whatsoever to back me up, I'd bet that there were far more
people actively collecting and concerned about
12 inches of hickory, 5 ounces of steel. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)
John
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From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What makes a hammer a hammer?
Hi, Steve,
Well, pardon my ignorance, and I stand corrected. Apparently quickly picked
a bad example, as I'm familiar with slices in private circulation that
aren't as you described. That said, I am familiar with some material which
is exactly as you've described it, so that makes sense.
Darren,
I thought you meant to say the community of hammer collectors within the
meteorite collecting community was small -- relative to the international
meteorite collecting community itself. Apologies for missing that...my bad.
Many serious meteorite collectors look down their noses at hammer
PS - Sad, but true...no such solid numbers are needed to call the below a
fact.
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Darren
Garrison
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:10 PM
To:
Hi list, I was planning on using some killer micrographs of NWA 4901, the
ungrouped achondrite paired with NWA 011, in the article I do for Meteorite
Times.
I have found some interesting write ups on the material but I don't want to
just copy-paste any thing that sounds interesting. I
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:50:18 -0500, you wrote:
I thought you meant to say the community of hammer collectors within the
meteorite collecting community was small -- relative to the international
meteorite collecting community itself.
I would say that it probably is, when defined as a main
Good evening Folks,
It's been a long time, but I'd like to add something: To me--as I have
understood it for many years--a Hammer is nothing more than a meteorite that
impacts a man-made objectand/or perhaps the occasional critter.Nothing
more--Nothing less.
Best regards to
Good points, Darren...and the list of collecting criteria could go on and on
ad infinitum. Yet it would also be interesting to measure this hammer issue
not in units but in dollars (or Euros or whatever currency). Like you, I
have no solid statistics here (this arena really needs them badly, by
After many posts, I think that I now have a tenuous
handle on the differences between Pallasites and
Mesosideroites.
Now the question is---
When looking at the irons, the Wittmenstraden pattern
and the thickness tell whether it is a
Coursest Octahedrite or just an Octahedrite.
And
G'Day List
This thread has been very interesting. Hammers have really not played an
important part of my quest to seek knowledge, meteoritically speaking. But
the discussions have been an eye opener, especially when it comes to a few
mets that I had not considered.
Mike, thanks for starting
Now that's a hammer. Nice work Steve. Super piece
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From: meteorh...@aol.com
To: d...@fallingrocks.com; cyna...@charter.net;
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What makes a hammer a hammer?
In
Steve and List,
Steve, are you absolutely sure the core came from THE Hodges's stone( the
one that struck her) and NOT the McKinney stone??? I have not actually seen the
Hodge's stone in person, and maybe you have, so you MAY be right. But ... if I
may quote a few words from one of our
The problem with the 'hammers' is that some are not. For example: Pultusk,
which is broadly referred to as a 'hammer,' when, without conclusive
evidence, it is unknown what actual/individual stones or 'peas' struck
artifacts. The same can be said about Murchison, Allende, and many others. I
The 'hammer' category talk makes me wonder what other specialized categories
people collect. The following specialized categories hold a special place in
my heart and collection:
1. Orbitally Tracked meteorites
2. Filmed meteorites
If owning a meteorite wasn't good enough, how about being able
Hello Michael,
As I'm not very fluent in english, I think my words
were misunderstood.
Everybody can bid to buy my website and domain. I just
said that it may be a meteorite collector or a dealer.
But a dealer has to separate his own business and the
datas included in the Encyclopedia,
Hello Robert,
To answer your direct question, no I have not seen the Hodges's stone.
However, in Dr. King's Meteorite Collection Catalog he listed the source of
his Sylacaga specimen as, and I quote:
Source: Alabama Mus. Nat. Hist., Douglas Jones
Now, if anyone on the list has access to
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