[meteorite-list] Personal Data collection - Off topic, but important.

[Greg Catterton]

There's a site called spokeo.com and it's an online phone book that has a 
picture of you and your house, credit score, profession, age, how many people 
live in the house. Remove yourself by the Privacy button on the bottom right. I 
personally checked it out and it is real. It had 2 of my old addresses on it 
and our current one, not all of the info is accurate but it is still weird! 
COPY, PASTE AND REPOST


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites





  
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[meteorite-list] How to post

[Tim Glidewell]

I would like to post on the list How do you do that?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic Resurfacing HypothesisChallenged

[Sterling K. Webb]

Listoids and Venus Fans,

   The Global Catastrophe Hypothesis became a problem
as soon as the Magellan dataset was mostly complete. The
data was turned over to the crater-counters who are able
to date a planetary surface by the statistical distribution of
crater size, and date it quite precisely, too.

   When they announced the age of the Venusian surface
as 520 million years, plus or minus a 40-50 million year
error (or 480 to 560 my), they were immediately surrounded
by hysterical geologists screaming that they had to be wrong.

   The crater counters were replaced by other crater counters
who gave the same results. This is a narrow specialization -- 
crater counting -- there are only so many crater counters,

and it's a very precise technique that has dated every solid
planetary surface we can image with results that are both
consistent and to every appearance accurate everywhere.

   A decade or so was wasted on geological mechanisms
that could re-surface without outside interference. They
were largely hooey that convinced no one, posing improbable
mechanisms to accomplish world-wide simultaneous subduction.
The problem is not a hypothesis problem; it is a fact problem
looking for a hypothesis.

   If we take a step backward and look at events in the
ENTIRE solar system, we see that:

a) ~600 million years ago, the largest asteroid breakup
in the last 4 billion years occurred (the Flora Family),

b) starting at 600 million years ago, the impact rate in
the solar system jumped up to high levels not seen
for 3.2 billion years (dated by lunar impact spherules
collected by the Apollo missions),

c) between 600 million years ago and 500 million years
ago, the Earth had three catastrophically nasty ice ages,
including the Snowball Earth episode in which the entire
planet froze to the equator, the worst ice age ever,

d) 484 million years ago, the Earth suffered a prolonged
period in which the rate of meteoritic infall was up to 150
times greater than it is today,
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Mar04/fossilMeteorites.html
and

e) the surface of Venus was wholly or partially melted and
resurfaced with fresh rock (just like the old days, huh?).

   I see these events as connected, as I've been sometimes
posting here for the last 6 or 7 years. Or, they could be one
freakin' big coincidence...

   So, I read the RTT paper with great interest. They advance
solid arguments for the conclusion that the RTT had to be
formed in one discrete episode or interval. In a word, that
it's datable. They then assert that it had to have formed very
early in the planet's history because thermal modeling
indicates that ribbon fabric formation requires an extremely
high thermal gradient... That is, a high internal heat flowing
up to the crust as it does at the end of planetary formation
and cooling. In other words, you can't form RTT unless the
crust is very hot. That is the extent of their dating attempt.

   The ancient origin would be true in the case of the absence
of a viable geological catastrophic or global turnover model
ONLY IF you exclude impacts (giant or multiple) large enough
to melt the crust down to the mantle. Best way to prove your
case is to ignore anything that would disprove your case,
I always say.

   The RTT are scattered in disconnected patches over the
planet. They could be a relict of ancient terrains or they
could be the places where the 100-300-kilometer asteroids
DIDN'T fall. The fall of planetoid sized bodies, of course,
heats the crust planet wide by degrading the impact energy
into thermal energy. The heat doesn't have to be internal
when you melt a planet's surface.

   Hansen and Lopez have another paper on the RTT,
characterizing them as lava scrum ponds, also from
this same year (2009):
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/venus2009/pdf/2012.pdf
(I think you ought to hold it down to one theory a year.)

This is a strange idea since the RTT is 1-3 km. HIGHER than
the low flat plains -- why didn't the lava run off? But, then,
I'm no geologist and I don't really know how to make lava
run uphill... How you do dat? In fairness, a few RTT parches
are on the lowest level... but only a few small ones.

   Another view on the RTT by another member of the
original Magellan team (this one from 1996):
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/1996/96JE01245.shtml
Author of many papers on Venus; Google Ivanov Venus.

   There's another theory of the RTT, the pulsating
continent theory. Bouncy continents... That sounds
like fun:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6V61-4TRR8Y0-1_user=10_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2008_rdoc=1_fmt=high_orig=search_sort=d_docanchor=view=c_searchStrId=1310409062_rerunOrigin=google_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=1a74f8614c1c46478bfbfe77b807a05a

   There seems to be this continuing effort in explaining
Venus' geology by mechanisms without outside interference.
I'm tempted to see it as the old we're-geologists---take-your-
asteroids-and-never-darken-my 

Re: [meteorite-list] How to post

[Sterling K. Webb]

Tim,

Go to:
http://www.meteoritecentral.com/
and follow the Big Orange Button.


Sterling K. Webb
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[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday L'Aigle

[bernd . pauli]

Happy Birthday, L'Aigle!

Best wishes,

Bernd

---

BIOT J.-B. (1803b) Relation d'un voyage fait dans le département de l'Orne pour
constater la réalité d'un météore observé à l'Aigle le 6 floréal an XI 
(Baudouin,
Imprimeur de l'Institut National de France, Thermidor, An XI, Paris, 47 pp.):
 
Ils entendirent comme un coup de canon, ensuite un coup double plus fort que
le précédent, et celui-ci fut suivi d'un roulement qui a duré environ dix 
minutes,
et qui était accompagné d'un sifflement (...) Tous les paysans furent très 
effrayés
(...) Les plus grosses pierres ont été lancées si violemment, qu'elles sont 
entrées
dans la terre au moins à un pied de profondeur. Elles sont noires 
extérieurement,
et grisâtres intérieurement: il semble qu'il y ait dedans une sorte de métal
(Extrait du rapport de J.B. Biot à l'académie des sciences en 1803).

Translation:

They heard something resembling the report of a cannon ball, then a double 
report more
violent than the preceding one, which was followed by a rolling thunder lasting 
for about
two minutes and which was accompanied by a whistling sound (...) The farmers 
were all
very frightened (...)
The largest stones had been hurled down so violently that they penetrated the 
soil to a depth
of at least one foot. Their exteriors are black, their interiors grayish: there 
seems to be
some sort of metal inside (Extract from Biot's report to the Academy of 
Sciences in 1803).

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

[Mark Ford]

At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these conspiracy 
myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe gains them the 
attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the same with the crop 
circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water monsters etc.  Usually it's 
often very intelligent but slightly deluded people, who feed off other much 
more deluded people, and through positive re-enforcement you end up with a 
community of people all firmly believing in exactly the same thing and unable 
to accept the truth no matter what anyone else says.

People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as simple as 
that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we).

Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's view of 
the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories are not just 
'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we should be far less 
tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still room for being sensibly 
open minded that is...

Mark



-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H.
Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

in Fake Lunar Landing Response at
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html
E. P. (Grondine) wrote:

In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other 
planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist 
religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by 
Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David 
Hatcher Childress.

...text deleted...

Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well 
developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the 
Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they 
did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits 
right in with the Face on Mars for them.

It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological 
basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon. 
In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science 
and argue that the deevolution of  human beings has been going 
for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the 
Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they 
consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have 
traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors 
that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their 
theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are
discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The 
Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at;

http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of-dollars/

For example, this web page states:

The Vedic account of our planetary system is 
already researched, concluded, and perfect. The 
Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles 
farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, 
even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 
million miles as the distance from the earth to 
the sun, how could the “astronauts” have traveled 
to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles–
in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the 
Apollo 11 moon trip)?

Further down it, the above web page states:

Another important reason why the manned moon 
landing must be a hoax is that, according to the 
Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living 
and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one 
planet to another without becoming properly qualified. 
This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for 
instance, he has to give up his present gross material 
body and acquire another one suitable for life on 
that particular planet.

Other revealing web pages are:

The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction
http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/

The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith
http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/

Moon Mission Web Pages
http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/

As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old 
creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind
the arguments behind the claims that the Moon Landings were
a hoax is a religious one. I also suspect that unlike the creationist 
antievolutionists, the promoters of the Moon Landing hoax have 
been for the most part, but not always, been careful to hide their 
religious motivations behind seemingly secular web sites. Of 
course as in case of antievolution, there are also a number of
conspiracy fans, who for purely secular, nonreligious reasons,
advocate and promote the fiction about there having been a 
Moon Landing hoax.

Yours, 

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] How to post

[Steve Witt]

You just did.



Steve Witt
IMCA #9020
http://imca.cc/


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 Subject: [meteorite-list] How to post
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 1:40 AM
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- Bill kies

[atul]

Hi AL
To clarify- I meant that  I don't buy meteorites at a fall and resell them- 
I don't know who this  Bill kies is but he has been sending me terse emails 
last night demanding I send him this or that data about WI and PF. I intend to 
ignore him till he can send polite and respectable  emails.

Anyway I hope all is well with you. I have not been on met list since 2005.
Pls call me or email me your ph nos- 
Thanks
Atul kumar
 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: almi...@localnet.com
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:12:53 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

Hi Atul and all,

First, I am pretty sure that I received a Park Forest map from Atul 
after I made the request. I know he shared information with 
researchers. I would also say this is a trustworthy individual if you 
want to give up your data so he can do some ploting.

With that said, what bothers me a bit while you may no longer collect 
or buy meteorites, you certainly purchased meteorites from me at one of 
the NIAG Conventions. I know you were using strictly for education but 
you did buy them at that time.All my best to all.

--AL Mitterling
Mitterling Meteorites


Quoting atul atulkuma...@yahoo.com:


PS - I neither buy or sell
 stones-just do it for the fun.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless
 BlackBerry

 Bill kies-I don't remember you- and certainly don't remember getting 
 any data from a  bill kies.

 Thank you
 Atul kumar
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com
 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:40:48
 To: balisterja...@att.net
 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  WI fall- new data for strewn field map.


 I remember Atul making the same request during Park Forest but I 
 don't remember seeing his final results.

 Please post your Park Forest map, Atul.



 
 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:20:27 -0700
 From: balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

 Are you going to put the map up for the list?



 - Forwarded Message 
 From: atul
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 9:38:15 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

 Hi all - I just spent 3 days in the area. New finds are coming in-
 I have
 enough stones with authenticated data(by me) to make a prelim strewn field
 map as a very amateur attempt .
 If any degreed people. On the list can help
 get this refined - I would appreciate the help.

 If you have a confirmed
 find- and wish to share data- I wecome it.

 Rob matson has been very
 helpful and I wish to thank him.

 I belive we should see more 200 and 300
 gram pcs soon.

 Please send data with pic to me -off list
 pls-
 Regards
 Atul kumar
 Very amateur astronomer
 Educational director
 -
 Calumet astonomical society

 PS - I neither buy or sell
 stones-just do it for the fun.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless
 BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul H.  ymailto=mailto:oxytropidoce...@cox.net;
 href=mailto:oxytropidoce...@cox.net;oxytropidoce...@cox.net
 Date:
 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:06:51
 To: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  
 ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
 href=mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject:
 [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic Resurfacing Hypothesis

 Challenged

 Dear Friends,

 Ribbon tessera terrain on Venus
 challenges catastrophic
 resurfacing hypothesis.

 Venus Records a Rich
 Early History
 ScienceDaily, March 25,
 2010)

 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100326125438.htm

 the
 paper is:

 Hansen, V. L., and I. Lopez, 2010, Venus records
 a rich
 early history. Geology. vol. 38, no. 4,
 pp. 311-314,
 doi:10.1130/G30587.1

 http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/4/311.abstract

 Hansen,
 V. L., and I. Lopez, 2009, Implications of
 Venus Evolution Based on Ribbon
 Tessera Terrain
 Relations Within Five Large Regional Areas. 40th
 Lunar and
 Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar
 and Planetary Science XL), held March
 23-27, 2009
 in The Woodlands, Texas,
 id.2306

 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/2306.pdf

 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009LPI40.2306H

 A
 related article:

 Did A Mega-Collision Alter Venus?
 ScienceDaily (Feb.
 27,
 2008)

 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080226160017.htm

 The
 paper is:

 Davis, H. J., 2009, Did a mega-collision dry
 Venus'
 interior? Earth and Planetary Science Letters.
 vol. 268, no. 3-4,
 pp.
 376-383.

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.epsl.2008.01.031

 Yours,

 Paul
 H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

[Dennis Miller]

Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny and Leprechauns.  They generate
billions of dollars, just in candy and green beer! (Don't mix them though)
(From my iphone in area 51)  
 
Dennis
 



 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:29:48 +0100
 From: mark.f...@ssl.gb.com
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response


 At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these 
 conspiracy myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe gains 
 them the attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the same with 
 the crop circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water monsters etc. Usually 
 it's often very intelligent but slightly deluded people, who feed off other 
 much more deluded people, and through positive re-enforcement you end up with 
 a community of people all firmly believing in exactly the same thing and 
 unable to accept the truth no matter what anyone else says.

 People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as simple as 
 that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we).

 Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's view of 
 the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories are not just 
 'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we should be far less 
 tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still room for being sensibly 
 open minded that is...

 Mark



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H.
 Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

 in Fake Lunar Landing Response at
 http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html
 E. P. (Grondine) wrote:

 In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other
 planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist
 religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by
 Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David
 Hatcher Childress.

 ...text deleted...

 Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well
 developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the
 Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they
 did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits
 right in with the Face on Mars for them.

 It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological
 basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon.
 In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science
 and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going
 for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the
 Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they
 consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have
 traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors
 that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their
 theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are
 discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The
 Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at;

 http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of-dollars/

 For example, this web page states:

 The Vedic account of our planetary system is
 already researched, concluded, and perfect. The
 Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles
 farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore,
 even if we accept the modern calculation of 93
 million miles as the distance from the earth to
 the sun, how could the “astronauts” have traveled
 to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles–
 in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the
 Apollo 11 moon trip)?

 Further down it, the above web page states:

 Another important reason why the manned moon
 landing must be a hoax is that, according to the
 Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living
 and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one
 planet to another without becoming properly qualified.
 This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for
 instance, he has to give up his present gross material
 body and acquire another one suitable for life on
 that particular planet.

 Other revealing web pages are:

 The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction
 http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/

 The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith
 http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/

 Moon Mission Web Pages
 http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/

 As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old
 creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind
 the arguments behind the claims that the Moon Landings were
 a hoax is a religious one. I also suspect that unlike the creationist
 antievolutionists, the promoters of the Moon Landing hoax have
 been for the most part, but not always, been careful to hide their
 religious motivations behind seemingly secular 

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

[Mark Ford]

You get cellphone coverage in area 51?? - You must be one of 'them' ;)


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Miller [mailto:astror...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 26 April 2010 15:49
To: Mark Ford; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response


Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny and Leprechauns.  They
generate
billions of dollars, just in candy and green beer! (Don't mix them
though)
(From my iphone in area 51)  
 
Dennis
 



 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:29:48 +0100
 From: mark.f...@ssl.gb.com
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response


 At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these
conspiracy myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe
gains them the attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the
same with the crop circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water
monsters etc. Usually it's often very intelligent but slightly deluded
people, who feed off other much more deluded people, and through
positive re-enforcement you end up with a community of people all firmly
believing in exactly the same thing and unable to accept the truth no
matter what anyone else says.

 People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as
simple as that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we).

 Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's
view of the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories
are not just 'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we
should be far less tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still
room for being sensibly open minded that is...

 Mark



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul
H.
 Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

 in Fake Lunar Landing Response at

http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html
 E. P. (Grondine) wrote:

 In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other
 planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist
 religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by
 Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David
 Hatcher Childress.

 ...text deleted...

 Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well
 developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the
 Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they
 did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits
 right in with the Face on Mars for them.

 It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological
 basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon.
 In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science
 and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going
 for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the
 Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they
 consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have
 traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors
 that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their
 theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are
 discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The
 Moon-A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at;


http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of
-dollars/

 For example, this web page states:

 The Vedic account of our planetary system is
 already researched, concluded, and perfect. The
 Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles
 farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore,
 even if we accept the modern calculation of 93
 million miles as the distance from the earth to
 the sun, how could the astronauts have traveled
 to the moon-a distance of almost 94 million miles-
 in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the
 Apollo 11 moon trip)?

 Further down it, the above web page states:

 Another important reason why the manned moon
 landing must be a hoax is that, according to the
 Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living
 and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one
 planet to another without becoming properly qualified.
 This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for
 instance, he has to give up his present gross material
 body and acquire another one suitable for life on
 that particular planet.

 Other revealing web pages are:

 The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction
 http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/

 The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith
 http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/

 Moon Mission Web Pages
 http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/

 As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old
 creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind
 the arguments behind the claims that the Moon 

Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Fall Type H/L?

[MEM]

The geologist looking at it think it to be a highly equilibrated H however, 
with the very different lithologies and nodular looking white clasts this may 
easily be an H/L.  

What you are making an evaluation with are the specimens you may have seen.  
Just as valid.  This may be a real life example of the fable of the blind men 
describing and elephant.  Each does so from their perspective.  One sees it as 
a giant snake( trunk) the other as trees( legs)etc.  No bets as to H or L are 
beyond reason.

Good Luck and Good weather from rainy PA.

Elton

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, e...@meteoritesusa.com e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:

 
 Just a quick question, sorry if this has been discussed
 already, I'm in the field and have intermittent internet.
 Does anyone know type/class yet, and who is doing
 classification? We know it's a gorgeous brecciated meteorite
 and that it's possibly an L, but that's it...
 
 Regards,
 Eric Wichman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- Bill kies

[bill kies]

Atul,
 
I don't appreciate your characterization of me as demanding, terse maybe. YOU 
contacted me Atul.
 
All I asked is that you prove that you are doing credible research before I 
share any hard earned information I have. 
 
I don't understand why you think anyone who knows very little about you would 
mindlessly feed you co-ordinates for a hunt in progress. Contact any of the 
professional hunters out there and see how far you get!
 
Below are ALL the terse demanding replies I made to Atul's rude inquiries. 
I'm not including his end of the conversation as it's against list policy.
 
Forgive the pun but frankly, Atul was acting like A Tool.
 
Bill
 
 


Hi Atul, Please send me a copy of your map. I can add at least xx new finds to 
it, maybe more in the future as I'm still hunting. 
Thanks,
Bill 
PS: Did you ever complete your map of the Park Forest Strewnfield? If so, I can 
add to that as well.
-
Sorry Atul. It seems you are just fishing for information. If you want info 
from me concerning this new WI fall, you will have to make the first act of 
good faith. I am not a dealer. I collect Park Forest almost exclusively. I live 
only a few miles from there. 
Regards,
Bill
-
Please post your Park Forest results to the meteorite list. 
Thanks,
Bill
--
Let's see the result of your Park Forest study. That will inspire confidence in 
your current project. 
Thank you,
Bill 
---
 
 
 


 To: almi...@localnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 From: atulkuma...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:14:24 +
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- Bill kies

 Hi AL
 To clarify- I meant that I don't buy meteorites at a fall and resell them-
 I don't know who this Bill kies is but he has been sending me terse emails 
 last night demanding I send him this or that data about WI and PF. I intend 
 to ignore him till he can send polite and respectable emails.

 Anyway I hope all is well with you. I have not been on met list since 2005.
 Pls call me or email me your ph nos-
 Thanks
 Atul kumar

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: almi...@localnet.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:12:53
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

 Hi Atul and all,

 First, I am pretty sure that I received a Park Forest map from Atul
 after I made the request. I know he shared information with
 researchers. I would also say this is a trustworthy individual if you
 want to give up your data so he can do some ploting.

 With that said, what bothers me a bit while you may no longer collect
 or buy meteorites, you certainly purchased meteorites from me at one of
 the NIAG Conventions. I know you were using strictly for education but
 you did buy them at that time.All my best to all.

 --AL Mitterling
 Mitterling Meteorites


 Quoting atul :


 PS - I neither buy or sell
 stones-just do it for the fun.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless
 BlackBerry

 Bill kies-I don't remember you- and certainly don't remember getting
 any data from a bill kies.

 Thank you
 Atul kumar
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: bill kies 
 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:40:48
 To: 
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.


 I remember Atul making the same request during Park Forest but I
 don't remember seeing his final results.

 Please post your Park Forest map, Atul.



 
 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:20:27 -0700
 From: balisterja...@att.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

 Are you going to put the map up for the list?



 - Forwarded Message 
 From: atul
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 9:38:15 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] WI fall- new data for strewn field map.

 Hi all - I just spent 3 days in the area. New finds are coming in-
 I have
 enough stones with authenticated data(by me) to make a prelim strewn field
 map as a very amateur attempt .
 If any degreed people. On the list can help
 get this refined - I would appreciate the help.

 If you have a confirmed
 find- and wish to share data- I wecome it.

 Rob matson has been very
 helpful and I wish to thank him.

 I belive we should see more 200 and 300
 gram pcs soon.

 Please send data with pic to me -off list
 pls-
 Regards
 Atul kumar
 Very amateur astronomer
 Educational director
 -
 Calumet astonomical society

 PS - I neither buy or sell
 stones-just do it for the fun.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless
 BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul H.  ymailto=mailto:oxytropidoce...@cox.net;
 href=mailto:oxytropidoce...@cox.net;oxytropidoce...@cox.net
 Date:
 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:06:51
 To: 

Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response

[Darren Garrison]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:48:34 -0500, you wrote:


Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, 

Well, The Santa Clause hinged on Tim Allen's dubious star power, coming in the
middle of the run of his popular show Home Improvement.

But back to the moon, I notice that the book by the nut in the Penn and Teller
clip I had linked earler is available as a PDF.  Here it is, if you have the
stomach for an insane moron:

http://rs782.rapidshare.com/files/295611597/NASA_mooned_america.pdf
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[meteorite-list] New hypersonic glider article

[Darren Garrison]

It sounds like the 13,000 miles per hour (around 5.8 km/s) speed is only during
the suborbital part of the flight, with impact speeds a much more believable
mere 3,600 miles per hour (around 1.6 km/s.)

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/26/falcon-hypersonic-missiles-project-aurora/

Military's Hypersonic Falcon Missile Test a Dud?

FOXNews.com

On the heels of last week's top-secret X37-B launch, the U.S. Air Force launched
-- and ultimately crashed -- an experimental hypersonic glider theoretically
capable of hitting Mach 20.

It was a watershed week for conspiracy theorists, with President Barack Obama
throwing his support behind several major upgrades to the country's
rapid-response strike capability.

On the heels of the top-secret X37-B launch, the U.S. Air Force launched an even
more secret experimental hypersonic glider able to travel more than 4,000 miles
in 30 minutes from launch. The craft -- dubbed the Falcon Hypersonic Technology
Vehicle 2 -- was launched via a Minotaur 4-Lite rocket Thursday from Vandenberg
Air Force Base, the Air Force announced.

Conspiracy theorists have long reported on a secret project known as Aurora --
a hypersonic spy plane capable of speeds up to Mach 6 (3,700 mph). The Falcon
seems to be the culmination of that project, but it's capable of much, much
more, according to a fact sheet from the Defense Advanced Research Projects
Agency (DARPA).

The sheet explains that once the vehicle accelerates into the upper atmosphere,
it is designed to separate from its booster and glide across the Pacific at
around 13,000 mph, or nearly Mach 20.

The test vehicle launched last week reached Mach 5 on launch, and was designed
to crash and sink into the sea and sink near Kwajalein Atoll, 2,000 miles
south-west of Hawaii, 30 minutes later and 4,000 miles from the launch site.

But in a statement released Friday night, DARPA said that while “the launch
vehicle executed first-of-its-kind energy management maneuvers, clamshell
payload fairing release and HTV-2 deployment,” all wasn't perfect with the
superfast craft. “Approximately 9 minutes into the mission, telemetry assets
experienced a loss of signal from the HTV-2. An engineering team is reviewing
available data to understand this event.”

The DARPA press release did not specify whether any of the test maneuvers were
completed by the Lockheed Martin built craft before controllers lost
communications with the craft, the site adds.

In the real world, Project Aurora is called the Prompt Global Strike (PGS)
program and it's actually part of the President's solution to maintaining peace
in non-nuclear times. President Obama signed a treaty with Russian President
Dmitri Medvedev last week that put both countries on the path to full nuclear
disarmament.

However, the U.S. part of the agreement states that the country can replace
every decommissioned nuclear weapon with a PGS missile. Within a week of the
treaty being signed, Obama welcomed in the technology to make it possible.

And overnight, Obama announced he would support deploying a new class of
hypersonic missiles that could hit any target on Earth within an hour.

Depending on the version the Pentagon chooses, the warhead would either split
into dozens of lethal fragments in the final seconds of its flight or simply
smash into its target, relying on devastating kinetic energy to destroy anything
in its path reports the Times of London. As a precision weapon its effects would
be quite different from the mass destruction inflicted by nuclear warheads
delivered by intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach 13,400 mph.

The glider's speeds of 3,600 mph are more than seven times faster than the
Tomahawk guided missiles that were too slow to kill Osama bin Laden at an
Afghanistan training camp in 1998. The White House has requested almost $250
million for research into hypersonic technologies which harness shock waves
generated by a fast-moving missile to increase its speed further.








Plus:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7107179.ece
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Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Fall Type H/L?

[mail]

After looking at the material I cut for Steve Arnold (Met Men), it appeared to 
be an L4-5 to me.  Within the matrix there were some well-defined chondrules 
and the white clasts contained some chondules that were not so well defined.  
It reminded me quite a bit of Ourique or Noblesville, both type 4s.
Matt Morgan

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:24:37 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; e...@meteoritesusa.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Fall Type  H/L?

The geologist looking at it think it to be a highly equilibrated H however, 
with the very different lithologies and nodular looking white clasts this may 
easily be an H/L.  

What you are making an evaluation with are the specimens you may have seen.  
Just as valid.  This may be a real life example of the fable of the blind men 
describing and elephant.  Each does so from their perspective.  One sees it as 
a giant snake( trunk) the other as trees( legs)etc.  No bets as to H or L are 
beyond reason.

Good Luck and Good weather from rainy PA.

Elton

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, e...@meteoritesusa.com e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:

 
 Just a quick question, sorry if this has been discussed
 already, I'm in the field and have intermittent internet.
 Does anyone know type/class yet, and who is doing
 classification? We know it's a gorgeous brecciated meteorite
 and that it's possibly an L, but that's it...
 
 Regards,
 Eric Wichman
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Re: [meteorite-list] New hypersonic glider article

[Richard Kowalski]

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:


 On the heels of the top-secret X37-B launch, the U.S. Air
 Force launched an even
 more secret experimental hypersonic glider able to travel
 more than 4,000 miles
 in 30 minutes from launch. The craft -- dubbed the Falcon
 Hypersonic Technology
 Vehicle 2 -- was launched via a Minotaur 4-Lite rocket
 Thursday from Vandenberg
 Air Force Base, the Air Force announced.


How secret can these vehicles be if they are releasing press releases and fact 
sheets???

R


  
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[meteorite-list] Livingston Strewfield?

[Richard Kowalski]

Hey all,

As a non-hunter (except for a couple of unsuccessful attempts) I've been 
interested like everyone else on the list to hear how the hunt is going and to 
see the stones as they get announced.

Numerous requests have gone out for maps of the strewnfield and all of them 
have met with complete silence. That is at least publicly.

That's fine as I understand those in the field don't want to give away their 
secrets but is it really all that secret?

We all know that two were found on the grounds of the Iowa-Grant Elementary 
School, which is located here:

http://tinyurl.com/25tbdfl

Knowing the inbound track, the towns within the strewnfield, at the very least 
this location, and that it is calculated that the field is 20 miles or more in 
length, it surprises me to see that no one is sharing more information on the 
finds...

My question is, how long did it take before the Park Forest or Ash Creek 
strewnfields and the locations of the associated finds start getting released 
publicly?

We know that the Whetstone strewnfield is still essentially top secret even 
though the area has been pretty thoroughly been covered and most who have 
researched that fall know where the field is.

I'd be interested in others thoughts on how long it will be before people start 
loosening up on their data points and why there is still so much secrecy about 
where the finds are being made.

Thanks

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


  
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[meteorite-list] More Challenges Await Japan's Asteroid Mission (Hayabusa)

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1004/26hayabusa/

More challenges await Japan's asteroid mission
BY STEPHEN CLARK 
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
April 26, 2010

Japan's battered Hayabusa spacecraft must steer through several
unprecedented course corrections using an improvised ion engine before
reaching its long-awaited return to Earth in June.

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency announced last week Hayabusa is
scheduled to plow through the atmosphere and parachute to Earth just
after 11 p.m. on June 13, Australian time.

The homecoming in Australia will occur around 1400 GMT, JAXA said in a
statement. The probe is now traveling about 12 million miles from Earth.

The landing would complete an audacious seven-year round trip voyage to
an asteroid. Hayabusa was supposed to gather samples at asteroid
Itokawa, but its collection mechanism did not function as planned,
leaving that objective in doubt.

Officials are not sure whether any rocks or dust from the asteroid were
funneled into the craft's collection chamber.

Junichiro Kawaguchi, Hayabusa's project manager, said a lot can go wrong
during the probe's final two months in space.

The spacecraft is not in good shape, Kawaguchi said in an interview
earlier this month. If the spacecraft was in good condition, we would
assume it was an easy thing from this point.

Since its launch in 2003, Hayabusa has lost three of its four ion
engines, leaked out all of its chemical propellant and is down to a
single reaction wheel.

The trouble delayed Hayabusa's departure from Itokawa, which forced JAXA
to postpone the craft's return to Earth from 2007 until 2010.

Managers were close to declaring the $200 million mission a failure in
November, when Hayabusa's sole operational ion engine stopped working.
But controllers were unexpectedly able to link functioning components in
two different thrusters to continue propelling the spacecraft toward Earth.

Kawaguchi chalks up the daring mission's multiple comebacks to the
project's hardworking team and a lot of luck. He says he still is not
sure Hayabusa can finish the trip home.

I'm not optimistic, but I would love to be surprised, Kawaguchi said.

Despite firing for thousands of hours since November, the ion engine
face several shorter firings in the next few weeks that will exercise
the system through multiple starts and stops, officials said.

Ion engines are highly-efficient propulsion systems that produce thrust
by rapidly accelerating charged xenon gas particles.

The spacecraft's ion engine is not in good condition, Kawaguchi said.
There is only one reaction wheel left available. Everything is cause
for some concern.

Because its conventional thrusters are not operating, Hayabusa's ion
engine will fire four times in May and June to put the probe on course
for landing at the Woomera Test Facility in South Australia.

Every maneuver, including even the attitude maneuvers, has to rely on
the ion thrusters, Kawaguchi said.

Two burns around May 5 and May 29 will bend Hayabusa's trajectory to aim
for a point about 200 kilometers, or 120 miles, above Earth's surface.
Two more lengthy firings in early June will put the spacecraft on a
precise path toward landing.

That final maneuver will take about 20 hours or more, Kawaguchi said.
It just cannot happen instantaneously.

About a day before re-entry, Hayabusa will turn its sample container
toward the sun to heat the canister.

We extended the flight time more than three years, so the remaining
capacity [in the battery] is a concern, Kawaguchi said. We want to
heat it up and prevent it from becoming cold. We changed the separation
time as late as possible to three hours before entry.

The capsule will be spring-ejected from the Hayabusa mothership as it
flies within 25,000 miles of Earth.

The spacecraft releases the capsule by pushing a spring, Kawaguchi
said. When the capsule is released, a spinning motion is applied to the
capsule, so the capsule will have a spin at a very slow rate.

The 16-inch-wide canister will dive into the atmosphere at more than
25,000 mph. Temperatures around the capsule will reach about 4,900
degrees Fahrenheit, but the tiny craft will be protected by a
carbon-fiber heat shield.

The capsule will fly over Antarctica on the approach to Australia,
deploy its parachute after reaching the lower atmosphere, and float
gently to Earth while emitting a navigation beacon signal to nearby
recovery teams.

The Hayabusa mothership will also plummet into the atmosphere, but it
will burn up during re-entry, according to Kawaguchi.

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[meteorite-list] World Record Moondust Images

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List,
 
All of this talk (baloney) that we never visited the Moon reminded me of 
the tremendous Northwest Africa 5000 cutting loss. I thought a few of you might 
be interested in some images of a record amount of sterile Moondust.  At over a 
pound (470 grams), it exceeds the weight of all the Luna missions combined 
which 
totaled 326 grams.  Now, what to do with all of it.
 
World Record Images
 
Image a:
http://themeteoritesite.com/DUST-a.jpg
 
Image b:
http://themeteoritesite.com/DUST-b.jpg
 
 
Best Regards,

Adam
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[meteorite-list] AD: Just Back From Wisconsin.. 51 gram Stone, appears to be a Hammer!

[michael cottingham]

Hello All,

What a fun time in Wisconsin! A complete update soon. I hope to have my photos 
downloaded tomorrow into my computer. I will be offering a 51 gram complete 
stone, with about 95% Fusion Crust. It has white paint on it and the only place 
the paint could come from is the barn roof above where it was found.  I have 
photos of this stone and the barn. Send me your offers. Photos tomorrow. ONLY 
stone I have that I am willing to sell.

Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
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[meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

[Greg Stanley]

List:

Is it me or does it seem the number of NWA meteorites available is dropping?

Greg S.
  
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[meteorite-list] Delete - testing 123

[Greg Hupe]

testing 123

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
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NaturesVault (eBay)
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

[GeoZay]

Is it me or does it seem the number of  NWA meteorites available is 
dropping?

Probably like most of us, I  scan ebay quite frequently and during this 
last month or so, I've thought this  also compared to a couple years ago.
geozay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday L'Aigle

[Linton Rohr]

I'll second that, Bernd!
Having recently acquired a nice specimen,
I'd better start working on a birhday cake. g
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:26 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday L'Aigle


Happy Birthday, L'Aigle!

Best wishes,

Bernd

---

BIOT J.-B. (1803b) Relation d'un voyage fait dans le département de l'Orne 
pour
constater la réalité d'un météore observé à l'Aigle le 6 floréal an XI 
(Baudouin,
Imprimeur de l'Institut National de France, Thermidor, An XI, Paris, 47 
pp.):


Ils entendirent comme un coup de canon, ensuite un coup double plus fort 
que
le précédent, et celui-ci fut suivi d'un roulement qui a duré environ dix 
minutes,
et qui était accompagné d'un sifflement (...) Tous les paysans furent très 
effrayés
(...) Les plus grosses pierres ont été lancées si violemment, qu'elles sont 
entrées
dans la terre au moins à un pied de profondeur. Elles sont noires 
extérieurement,
et grisâtres intérieurement: il semble qu'il y ait dedans une sorte de 
métal

(Extrait du rapport de J.B. Biot à l'académie des sciences en 1803).

Translation:

They heard something resembling the report of a cannon ball, then a double 
report more
violent than the preceding one, which was followed by a rolling thunder 
lasting for about
two minutes and which was accompanied by a whistling sound (...) The farmers 
were all

very frightened (...)
The largest stones had been hurled down so violently that they penetrated 
the soil to a depth
of at least one foot. Their exteriors are black, their interiors grayish: 
there seems to be
some sort of metal inside (Extract from Biot's report to the Academy of 
Sciences in 1803).


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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

[Richard Kowalski]

I know we used to see 55 gallon drums filled with NWAs during the Tucson Shows 
years ago. The past few years I have not seen anything like that. At least not 
out in the open at the various tents where the Moroccan dealers are located 
around town. Years ago you'd see them at most tents.

I'm sure there are still many tons of uNWAs stashed away somewhere, waiting to 
be released slowly some time in the future.


--
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 10:19 AM
 
 List:
 
 Is it me or does it seem the number of NWA meteorites
 available is dropping?
 
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[meteorite-list] Moo-n Made From WI Cheese?

[Greg Hupe]

Dear List Members,

Thought I would take a little break from playing email catch-up. Here are a 
couple of humorous photos from my Wisconsin meteorite hunt:


Wisconsin Cheese?
Cow #2995 from the fertile hunting grounds (reminded me of [NWA] 2995, the 
lunar meteorite).

http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/moo-n.jpg

Got Meteorites?
In this cow pasture, as Bob King mentioned on his blog, these cows were 
particularly interested in our wandering about in their turf.

http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/GotMeteorites.jpg

Curious Cows!
Michael Cottingham photographing his first Wisconsin meteorite find with a 
couple of very curious cows. Just seconds after this image was taken, one of 
the cows licked his hand almost taking the meteorite!

http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/CuriousCows.jpg

Molly the 'Meteorite Finding Lama' of Wisconsin, or at least a group of us 
were hoping...

http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/Lama.jpg

Horse pasture where I found my one 33.7g find.
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/HorsePasture.jpg

It was a great pleasure to meet up with old and new friends in the pursuit 
of the newest of meteorites on planet Earth. I was able to meet people in 
person who I have only communicated with over the Internet or have never had 
the privilege to talk to. I have learned a lot from these dedicated 
individuals in the pursuit of these celestial messengers. After reading much 
of the emails posted to the List over the last week, I realize that 
unfortunately I did not run into quite a few people. I am very happy to have 
met, hunted and talked to everyone I encountered during this hunt, what a 
rush!


Looking at the horses munching on the grass reminds me that I need to go mow 
the lawn after nearly a month on the road hunting different locations.


Thank You, once again to the friendly folks of Wisconsin and the dedicated 
meteorite people who contributed data to make the hunt a success!!!


Enjoy!
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map. (Park Forest)

[Shawn Alan]

Hello Listers,
 
Here is a link I got from a lister a week ago on the strewn field from Park 
Forest fall Here you can find a map of the strewn field in
the following 2004 paper from MAPS:

http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~grossman/SGC04MAPS.pdf 
 
Enjoy :)
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[meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map.almitt2 at 
localnet.com almitt2 at localnet.com 
Mon Apr 26 01:12:53 EDT 2010 


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Hi Atul and all, 

First, I am pretty sure that I received a Park Forest map from Atul 
after I made the request. I know he shared information with 
researchers. I would also say this is a trustworthy individual if you 
want to give up your data so he can do some ploting. 

With that said, what bothers me a bit while you may no longer collect 
or buy meteorites, you certainly purchased meteorites from me at one of 
the NIAG Conventions. I know you were using strictly for education but 
you did buy them at that time.All my best to all. 

--AL Mitterling 
Mitterling Meteorites 


Quoting atul atulkumar62 at yahoo.com: 


PS - I neither buy or sell 

 stones-just do it for the fun. 

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 

 BlackBerry 



 Bill kies-I don't remember you- and certainly don't remember getting 

 any data from a bill kies. 

 

 Thank you 

 Atul kumar 

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 

 

 -Original Message- 

 From: bill kies parkforestmet at hotmail.com 

 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:40:48 

 To: balisterjames at att.net 

 Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map. 

 

 

 I remember Atul making the same request during Park Forest but I 

 don't remember seeing his final results. 

 

 Please post your Park Forest map, Atul. 

 

 

 

  

 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:20:27 -0700 

 From: balisterjames at att.net 

 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 

 Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: WI fall- new data for strewn field map. 

 

 Are you going to put the map up for the list? 

 

 

 

 - Forwarded Message  

 From: atul 

 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 

 Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 9:38:15 PM 

 Subject: [meteorite-list] WI fall- new data for strewn field map. 

 

 Hi all - I just spent 3 days in the area. New finds are coming in- 

 I have 

 enough stones with authenticated data(by me) to make a prelim strewn field 

 map as a very amateur attempt . 

 If any degreed people. On the list can help 

 get this refined - I would appreciate the help. 

 

 If you have a confirmed 

 find- and wish to share data- I wecome it. 

 

 Rob matson has been very 

 helpful and I wish to thank him. 

 

 I belive we should see more 200 and 300 

 gram pcs soon. 

 

 Please send data with pic to me -off list 

 pls- 

 Regards 

 Atul kumar 

 Very amateur astronomer 

 Educational director 

 - 

 Calumet astonomical society 

 

 PS - I neither buy or sell 

 stones-just do it for the fun. 

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 

 BlackBerry 

 

 -Original Message- 

 From: Paul H.  ymailto=mailto:oxytropidoceras at cox.net 

 href=mailto:oxytropidoceras at cox.netoxytropidoceras at cox.net 

 Date: 

 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:06:51 

 To: ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 

 href=mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.commeteorite-list at 
 meteoritecentral.com 

 ymailto=mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 

 href=mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.commeteorite-list at 
 meteoritecentral.com 

 Subject: 

 [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic Resurfacing Hypothesis 

 

 Challenged 

 

 Dear Friends, 

 

 Ribbon tessera terrain on Venus 

 challenges catastrophic 

 resurfacing hypothesis. 

 

 Venus Records a Rich 

 Early History 

 ScienceDaily, March 25, 

 2010) 

 

 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100326125438.htm 

 

 the 

 paper is: 

 

 Hansen, V. L., and I. Lopez, 2010, Venus records 

 a rich 

 early history. Geology. vol. 38, no. 4, 

 pp. 311-314, 

 doi:10.1130/G30587.1 

 

 http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/4/311.abstract 

 

 Hansen, 

 V. L., and I. Lopez, 2009, Implications of 

 Venus Evolution Based on Ribbon 

 Tessera Terrain 

 Relations Within Five Large Regional Areas. 40th 

 Lunar and 

 Planetary Science Conference, (Lunar 

 and Planetary Science XL), held March 

 23-27, 2009 

 in The Woodlands, Texas, 

 id.2306 

 

 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2009/pdf/2306.pdf 

 

 http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009LPI40.2306H 

 

 A 

 related article: 

 

 Did A Mega-Collision Alter Venus? 

 ScienceDaily (Feb. 

 27, 

 2008) 

 

 

Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Moondust Images

[Linton Rohr]

Cool.
You could have it all glued together in a sphere, and make a scale model of 
the moon.

Just a thought...
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:52 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] World Record Moondust Images



Dear List,

All of this talk (baloney) that we never visited the Moon reminded me of
the tremendous Northwest Africa 5000 cutting loss. I thought a few of you 
might
be interested in some images of a record amount of sterile Moondust.  At 
over a
pound (470 grams), it exceeds the weight of all the Luna missions combined 
which

totaled 326 grams.  Now, what to do with all of it.

World Record Images

Image a:
http://themeteoritesite.com/DUST-a.jpg

Image b:
http://themeteoritesite.com/DUST-b.jpg


Best Regards,

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Trip, Summary and Thanks

[Greg Hupe]

Hi Rob,

Best of luck to you! You certainly deserve to find a big one with your huge
contributions to the recovery of this one and past falls!!

Thanks again!
Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net
To: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Trip, Summary and Thanks


Terrific trip report, Robert, and very happy to hear that you made a
find -- even a small one.  Hey: the small ones are the hardest to
find!  I'm only sorry that I'll have just missed meeting you in the
field -- I'll be there Tuesday-Thursday this coming week. :-(
Wish me luck -- based on the outcomes of very experienced hunters,
I know I'm going to need it!

Congrats,
Rob

P.S. Great RFSPOD shot!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Robert
Woolard
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:51 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Trip, Summary and Thanks


Hello List,

I wanted to write a few things about the fantastic hunting experience last
week in Wisconsin. It was a real blast. ( No pun intended... THIS time.)

I knew I would naturally run into some long time friends, such as Mike,
Greg, Rubin, Robert, Geoff, Dave, Rob, Cottingham and many others. It was
great to see them all again. What I didn't know was that I would make such
terrific new friends.

On the way back to the hotel at the end of the first day's hunt, Jerry
and I drove by a couple of guys walking up to their cars. We pulled over to
ask if they had had any luck. They started telling us what they knew about
all of the finds so far... and VERY unselfishly invited us to join in the
hunt with them on the land they had received permission to hunt. I had never
had the pleasure of meeting these guys, but when they told me their names, I
instantly recognized them Larry Atkins and Karl Aston. We all hit if off
immediately and ended up becoming great friends over the next 2 and 1/2
days. Larry's bodacious enthusiasm and happy personality is quite
infectious. A very fun loving guy. And Karl, is one of the most laid back,
easy-to-get-along-with guys you could ever hope to meet. He worked
tirelessly driving around and asking for permission to hunt in the
ever-changing and growing strewnfield. I'm sure that all of you who already
know them
will agree completely.

The four of us were usually the very first (at least by a few minutes)to
meet for continental breakfast at 6:30am sharp each morning, and were in the
field hunting by 7:30am, not coming in until around 7:30pm. We often hunted
along fairly close to each other, and spent some of the time exchanging old
hunting stories. It was great. We also had the pleasure of teaming up with
a local photographer they had met and invited along for the hunt, Mark
Hirsch. This newbie was walking just several feet away from me and the
others when he had that magic moment and found his very first meteorite
ever. Another new member, christened into our crazy obsession. It was a true
pleasure to meet and spend some time with him as well. I have a feeling
we'll all be seeing more of him at future falls.
( You can see the team in action in today's RFSPOD. A big thanks to Bob
King and Michael Johnson for posting the photo! Its a great shot.)

Mine and Jerry's overall experience there was perfect. Everyone was very
friendly. The weather was great, and the scenery was beautiful. I saw quite
a bit of the native wildlife, including a dozen or more wild turkeys, a mink
or muskrat, a duck sitting on her nest of eggs, and my first wild badger (
probably was good that I was sitting IN the car when he popped up out of his
hole just a few feet away and stared at me for a minute or so! He didn't
look very happy to see me).

In the end, we did technically find some meteorites, small as they were.
In fact, as far as I know, I probably hold the dubious distinction of one of
my finds possibly being THE smallest specimen found . a whopping 3.2g.
But, hey. I'm not complaining! ;-)

And then there's the incredible experience of the young school boy finding
the meteorite live on camera! Unbelievable. A quick shout-out of thanks to
Mike Farmer for calling and alerting us to the finds there, enabling us to
expand our search area.

Very best wishes to all those who went and/or are planning on going. Good
luck!

Sincerely,
Robert Woolard

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

[Adam Hupe]

Only a trickle is coming out these days. The sharp decline started over three 
years ago.  Many Moroccans who used to deal meteorites have now gone back to 
their old jobs since there is no longer enough to support the trade. Others 
have raised their wholesale prices beyond retail of a few years ago.  The 
Saharan gold rush days are definitely over with only a handful of wholesale 
suppliers left.

Best Regards,

Adam

  



- Original Message 
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Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 10:19:44 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites


List:

Is it me or does it seem the number of NWA meteorites available is dropping?

Greg S.
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic

[tracy latimer]

Part of the problem with trying to search for meteorites in Hawaii (problem, 
what problem? many of you probably think ;)) is that, in addition to our 
meteorite-inhospitable climate, many of our native lava rocks are metallic 
enough to trip a metal detector, and are weakly attracted to a rare earth 
magnet.  Fresh ones also can be easily mistaken for meteorites by casual 
inspection.  Hawaii is one big meteor-wrong!

Best! (frustratedly)
Tracy Latimer


 From: linton...@earthlink.net
 To: geo...@aol.com
 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:51:33 -0700
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic

 Hmm. Very interesting.
 I was recently tryring out my new metal detector (thanks, Ruben) on our
 property in southern Utah and discovered that the lava bomb boulders
 strewn across the landscape are hot rocks and are slightly mag-attracted.
 The boulders were ejected from Boulder Mountain and Thousand Lake Mountain
 20 to 30 million years ago in a lava flow eruption. They were distributed
 around the area by subsequent glacial activity. In addition, I found a great
 deal of aluminum foil, and a few bullet casings. No meteorites... yet.
 Linton

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 Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:51 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic



 Well...just had an Eureka moment. I was sitting here at my desk with a
 bottle of volcanic ash from Mt. St. Helens and a earth magnet in my hand.
 I
 brought the magnet to the ash and discovered that the ash was attracted
 to
 it. I didn't know this before...son of a gun. :O)
 GeoZay

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 26, 2010

[Michael Johnson]

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_26_2010.html




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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 26, 2010

[Richard Kowalski]

I've seen tennis balls that looked just like that after dogs played with them!

:)

--
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[meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?

[Greg Hupe]

To all of the computer experts out there...

Has anyone thought of putting together a DVD (or set) of all of the news 
stories regarding the Wisconsin Fall? I would be interested in purchasing it 
if anyone has plans to do such a project. This would be similar to what Rob 
Wesel did with the Park Forest Newsreels DVD with nice graphics on the 
cover.


Best regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 26, 2010

[Greg Stanley]

Simply marvelous...

Now who's the winner.

Brix's weighs in at 205.6 grams
How much did Hopper's Ash Creek weigh?

Greg S.


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Re: [meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?

[Greg Stanley]

Great idea Greg... would be a fantastic educational tool.

Greg S.


 From: gmh...@htn.net
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:05:29 -0400
 Subject: [meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?

 To all of the computer experts out there...

 Has anyone thought of putting together a DVD (or set) of all of the news
 stories regarding the Wisconsin Fall? I would be interested in purchasing it
 if anyone has plans to do such a project. This would be similar to what Rob
 Wesel did with the Park Forest Newsreels DVD with nice graphics on the
 cover.

 Best regards,
 Greg

 
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[meteorite-list] CNN

[Mike Hankey]

Another CNN article on the WI meteorites. On front page of CNN today.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/26/wisconsin.meteorite.boomtown/index.html?hpt=C2
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Re: [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic ResurfacingHypothesisChallenged

[Kelly Beatty]

Sterling and all...

 A decade or so was wasted on geological mechanisms
 that could re-surface without outside interference. They
 were largely hooey that convinced no one, posing improbable
 mechanisms to accomplish world-wide simultaneous subduction.

*way* too sweeping a generalization. it's true that there's no consensus on
what triggered the resurfacing of Venus, but the discussion mostly surrounds
whether it's periodic (i.e. it'll happen again) or was a one-time event that
fundamentally altered the planet's internal heat flow.

regardless, large-scale cratering only 600 million years ago would leave an
unmistakable gravity signature - and there ain't none.


clear skies,
Kelly


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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

[Warren Sansoucie]

D. Bessey is in the process of moving, so he isn't selling right now, that has 
an effect on Ebay.
 
It is a bit slow though. Saw some 869's go at .90 gram.
 
Warren Sansoucie



 From: geo...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:39:54 -0400
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA Meteorites

Is it me or does it seem the number of NWA meteorites available is
 dropping?

 Probably like most of us, I scan ebay quite frequently and during this
 last month or so, I've thought this also compared to a couple years ago.
 geozay

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Re: [meteorite-list] Moo-n Made From WI Cheese?

[Brian Cox]

Thanks for the photos from Wisconsin. I especially enjoyed Molly-The 
Meteorite Finding Llama!  She has big beautiful brown eyes,,, she does need 
a little dental work though. '-)


Very funny, I needed a good laugh!

thanks again,

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[meteorite-list] News Clips DVD

[Tim Glidewell]

 I not sure you can do that without written release forms from the  
original owner of footage. But I may research it 
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[meteorite-list] AstroDay Festival, May 1 in Hilo

[Gary Fujihara]

Aloha listoids,

'Tis the season for Astronomy Day events, and one of the world's largest 
programs will be held this Saturday, May 1st, from 10am to 4pm at the Prince 
Kuhio Plaza in Hilo, Hawaii.

AstroDay Festival is Hawai'i Island's version of the popular event started by 
Northern California Amateur Astronomers then president Doug Berger in 1972.  
AstroDay is a Celebration of Astronomy and Hawaiian Culture, regularly attracts 
12,000+ attendees annually, and has earned national recognition and won awards 
7 of the 8 years it has been held since its inception in 2002, including the 
Best Astronomy Day awards in 2002 and 2007 (we didn't enter in 2008 and 2009).

AstroDay will feature interactive exhibits from every observatory on Mauna Kea, 
demonstrations and presentations, Hawaiian cultural displays, Starlab 
planetarium shows, solar viewing, a Kids Corner, and hula and Hawaiian musical 
performances throughout the day.  Many prizes will be given away, including 
several Celestron telescopes.  I may even have a few meteorites on display and 
to touch and hold at the event.  There are shared learning opportunities for 
the entire family, and stargazing later that evening at the Visitor Information 
Station on Mauna Kea with hosts from the Hilo Astronomy Club and West Hawaii 
Astronomy Club.  

More information can be found here:
http://astroday.net/

Highlights of previous events can be found here:
http://astroday.net/Hilites.html

Anyone in the Hilo area is welcome to join us for this free event.  Hope to see 
some of you there!

Gary Fujihara
Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html  
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Re: [meteorite-list] News Clips DVD

[Darryl Pitt]

I can help with this as this was what our office does in-part: the  
issuance/request of licenses.


Without a license, one would indeed risk being advised they are  
unlawfully exploiting copyrighted material.


In the end, it's all about the size of the endeavor and the amount of  
revenue generated--and to be clear, it would be simplest if it were  
non-revenue generating.  To properly do this, one would advise the  
content owner of the extent of distribution and expected revenues.






On Apr 26, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Tim Glidewell wrote:



I not sure you can do that without written release forms from the  
original owner of footage. But I may research  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Moo-n Made From WI Cheese?

[Adam Hupe]

I don't think that was a lama at all.

It looks like a well-known meteorite hunter and camera ham incognito to me.  I 
can tell by the bad toupee, lamb-chop sideburns, goatee and Billy-Bob teeth; 
take them away and you he still looks the same; pretty clever but no cigar!  
The only thing missing is the mullet haircut.

Best Regards,

Adam



   



- Original Message 
From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 10:52:18 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Moo-n Made From WI Cheese?

Dear List Members,

Thought I would take a little break from playing email catch-up. Here are a 
couple of humorous photos from my Wisconsin meteorite hunt:

Wisconsin Cheese?
Cow #2995 from the fertile hunting grounds (reminded me of [NWA] 2995, the 
lunar meteorite).
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/moo-n.jpg

Got Meteorites?
In this cow pasture, as Bob King mentioned on his blog, these cows were 
particularly interested in our wandering about in their turf.
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/GotMeteorites.jpg

Curious Cows!
Michael Cottingham photographing his first Wisconsin meteorite find with a 
couple of very curious cows. Just seconds after this image was taken, one of 
the cows licked his hand almost taking the meteorite!
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/CuriousCows.jpg

Molly the 'Meteorite Finding Lama' of Wisconsin, or at least a group of us were 
hoping...
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/Lama.jpg

Horse pasture where I found my one 33.7g find.
http://www.lunarrock.com/wisconsinmeteorite/HorsePasture.jpg

It was a great pleasure to meet up with old and new friends in the pursuit of 
the newest of meteorites on planet Earth. I was able to meet people in person 
who I have only communicated with over the Internet or have never had the 
privilege to talk to. I have learned a lot from these dedicated individuals in 
the pursuit of these celestial messengers. After reading much of the emails 
posted to the List over the last week, I realize that unfortunately I did not 
run into quite a few people. I am very happy to have met, hunted and talked to 
everyone I encountered during this hunt, what a rush!

Looking at the horses munching on the grass reminds me that I need to go mow 
the lawn after nearly a month on the road hunting different locations.

Thank You, once again to the friendly folks of Wisconsin and the dedicated 
meteorite people who contributed data to make the hunt a success!!!

Enjoy!
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?

[Darren Garrison]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:05:29 -0400, you wrote:

Has anyone thought of putting together a DVD (or set) of all of the news 
stories regarding the Wisconsin Fall? 

Can someone send me links to the various video clips relating to this?  I'll see
which ones I can download and which I can't.  Then I can make a DVD and make it
available as a torrent or on Sendspace under the doctrine of Legal Schmegal!
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[meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Joe Kerchner]

Listees,
   I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field 
persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. 

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



  

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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[gian gallo]

Hola Joe.WOW...you did it.and it was a big 
reward.congrats...waiting for the pics
 
Hasta la vista,
 
larense
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 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:08:02 -0700
 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!
 
 Listees,
 I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field 
 persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. 
 
 Best Wishes,
 Joe Kerchner
 http://illinoismeteorites.com
 http://skyrockcafe.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Rob Wesel]

Excellent news Joe

You certainly put in the time, feet on the ground day one with nine total 
days of hard searching. It was a pleasure meeting you in the field and I 
want to thank you from all of us for sharing your preliminary data so 
readily. The new main mass couldn't go to a better guy.


Congrats,

Rob Wesel
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www.facebook.com/nakhladog
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


- Original Message - 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!



Listees,
  I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com





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[meteorite-list] test

[mckinney trammell]

x


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 26, 2010

[Rob Wesel]

The Hopper stone comes in at 70.5 grams

Rob Wesel
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- Original Message - 
From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com

To: mich...@rocksfromspace.org; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 
26, 2010





Simply marvelous...

Now who's the winner.

Brix's weighs in at 205.6 grams
How much did Hopper's Ash Creek weigh?

Greg S.



Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:46:12 -0700
From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 26, 
2010


http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_26_2010.html




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Re: [meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?

[Rob Wesel]

The trouble with obtaining the TV coverage these days is the fact that it's 
all outsource and stockpiled by third party vendors. I paid $350 for the Ash 
Creek coverage and for that I got one single use copy that was expressly 
forbidden to reproduce. That was for about 30 minutes of coverage. There is 
plenty to glean from the web but I can only imagine it is protected too. 
Best to look at all the liability of such an endeavor. Park Forest was a 
simpler time.


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WI News Clips DVD - Anyone?



On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:05:29 -0400, you wrote:


Has anyone thought of putting together a DVD (or set) of all of the news
stories regarding the Wisconsin Fall?


Can someone send me links to the various video clips relating to this? 
I'll see
which ones I can download and which I can't.  Then I can make a DVD and 
make it
available as a torrent or on Sendspace under the doctrine of Legal 
Schmegal!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Venus Catastrophic Resurfacing Hypothesis Challenged

[Sterling K. Webb]

Kelly, Paul, List,


... large-scale cratering only 600 million years ago
would leave an unmistakable gravity signature...


   For the benefit of the audience (if there is any),
the gravity signature (of terrestrial carters, the only
ones we can compare closely to surface geology) is
caused by post-impact loss of  density inside the crater,
creating the distinctive central low.

   Besides the loss of excavated material, in small
simple craters this is due to an interior breccia lens
made from the local rock. In complex craters, models
suggest the gravity anomaly is from fractured target
rocks all across the floor of the crater. All the models
and realities elsewhere are for a surface of cool solid
rock which can form a breccia of solid rocks or
fractured strata.

   There are only 900-odd craters on Venus (and no
small ones due to the protection of the atmosphere),
as contrasted with over 200,000 on Mars. The surface
of the Moon is saturated with millions of craters at every
scale. The Earth has less than 200 verified craters.

   The largest crater on Venus (270-280 km) is the same
size as the largest crater on the Earth (300 km). The size
distribution is similar on the two planets. The larger
number of Venus craters is roughly proportional to
the Earth's IF you accept the view that Venus has had
no tectonic activity great enough to remove craters
since the time of the re-surfacing of Venus. The lack
of tectonic activity is widely accepted because a variety
of other evidences.



...unmistakable gravity signature - and there ain't none.


   Here's one of that none:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1994/pdf/1026.pdf

   Mead is the biggest crater on Venus. It has a signature.
It is the only crater whose gravity signature has a paper(s)
and I suspect it is the only one analyzed. Why the biggest
crater on Venus? Because it's only one where you would
have the ghost of a chance to detect any signature at all.

   In summary, as a rule of thumb, we suggest that useful information
about the subsurface structure of impact basins cannot be gained at
spacecraft altitudes greater than about 1/10 the diameter of the basin.
At altitudes approaching the basin's diameter even the signature
associated with the topography of a basin may be difficult to
separate from surrounding structures.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1994/pdf/1269.pdf

   Gee, maybe that's why there's no crater signatures.

   It doesn't explain why the standard NASA handout on
Magellan states unequivocally that the gravity signatures
follow the local topography closely (implying no crater
signatures when we have one signature and others are
likely undetectable). Press Release Science -- my favorite.

 Some sources conclude that the depth of Venus craters
is greater than expected by the standard crater modeling.
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/seri/LPICo/0790//065.000.html

   Other sources say the depth of Venus's craters is exactly
the same as predicted by the models, except for very small
and very large craters which are shallower. It's Venus -- why
should anyone agree about anything? If crater depths are
greater, there is no agreement as to what would cause it,
and certainly the great depth of Cleopatra and some others
needs explaining.

   One more wrinkle. Existing craters would not be from
the episode of crust-melting impactors. The existing craters
could not form in plastic crust. They would be the record
of impacts from the time the crust because rigid enough to
form craters up the present day. The age of the surface is
the age the post-molten solid crust. Since there is no
agreement on the depth and plasticity of the crust, crucial
factors in crater formation analysis, there's nothing very
certain about the other formation issues.

   Lastly, the tessera occupy 8% to 12% of the Venusian
surface (depending on who you read) and the tessera (RTT)
contain 8.7% of Venus's craters. Since the RTT is obviously
subject to deformation forces (20% of the tessera craters are
distorted), a few craters may have been lost, but only a few.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1996/pdf/1210.pdf

   However, the number of craters on tessera relative to
area is essentially the same as the rest of Venus. IF the
RTT were 4 to 5 times older than the rest of Venus, dating
to ancient planetary formation times, wouldn't you think
the crater density would be a LITTLE more than on the
young terrain of the rest of the planet? I would. Even if
it was only twice as old, there would be some numerically
distinct marker.

  Thanks, but I think I'll stand pat with my cards from
the last go-round-the-table.


Sterling K. Webb
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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Venus 

Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Darryl Pitt]

What a nice thing to say, former main mass holder

Congratulations, Joe!



On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Rob Wesel wrote:


Excellent news Joe

You certainly put in the time, feet on the ground day one with nine  
total days of hard searching. It was a pleasure meeting you in the  
field and I want to thank you from all of us for sharing your  
preliminary data so readily. The new main mass couldn't go to a  
better guy.


Congrats,

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/nakhladog
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


- Original Message - From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com 


To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!



Listees,
 I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in  
the field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the  
skyrock cafe soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com





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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Rob Wesel]

I only wish I could have been there for that moment of hesitation when it 
was found. Exhale, pause, shudder, and reclaim your breath. There's nothing 
like it.


Rob Wesel
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From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com

To: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net
Cc: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!




What a nice thing to say, former main mass holder

Congratulations, Joe!



On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Rob Wesel wrote:


Excellent news Joe

You certainly put in the time, feet on the ground day one with nine 
total days of hard searching. It was a pleasure meeting you in the  field 
and I want to thank you from all of us for sharing your  preliminary data 
so readily. The new main mass couldn't go to a  better guy.


Congrats,

Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
www.facebook.com/nakhladog
--
We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971


- Original Message - From: Joe Kerchner 
skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com


To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!



Listees,
 I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in  the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the  skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com





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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Joe Kerchner]

The best part is that 2 of my kids were hunting with me and able to see me act 
like a little kid running in circles with my arm in the air. I was extremely 
excited. I really didnt think I was ever gonna end up finding a piece.

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:08:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

Listees,
   I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field 
persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. 

Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Landing Hoaxers

[E.P. Grondine]

Hi Paul (and Mark) - 

You're absolutely right. Besides David Hatcher Childress's operations in 
Katmandu, you also have Doug Kenyon and his Atlantis Rising magazine part of 
this ring. Think Falwell's Moral Majority had bad effects? Imagine the 
effects on BJP/National Party politics in a nation of over a billion population 
armed with nuclear weapons. A minority of a billion is a large number. (Mark, 
you're absolutely right about the money.)

Of course theosophism was simply an attempt to wed re-incarnation with 
western religions, so its a natural fit.

As for the current confusion, Sterling, do you want to tell Paul about the 
Apollo film stock again?

Paul, if we could only agree on the comet impacts at the YD, and the total 
cometary impact threat as easily.

E.P.

 Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well
 developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the
 Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they
 did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits
 right in with the Face on Mars for them.

 It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological
 basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon.
 In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science
 and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going
 for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the
 Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they
 consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have
 traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors
 that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their
 theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are
 discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The
 Moon-A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at;


http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of
-dollars/

 For example, this web page states:

 The Vedic account of our planetary system is
 already researched, concluded, and perfect. The
 Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles
 farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore,
 even if we accept the modern calculation of 93
 million miles as the distance from the earth to
 the sun, how could the astronauts have traveled
 to the moon-a distance of almost 94 million miles-
 in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the
 Apollo 11 moon trip)?

 Further down it, the above web page states:

 Another important reason why the manned moon
 landing must be a hoax is that, according to the
 Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living
 and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one
 planet to another without becoming properly qualified.
 This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for
 instance, he has to give up his present gross material
 body and acquire another one suitable for life on
 that particular planet.

 Other revealing web pages are:

 The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction
 http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/

 The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith
 http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/

 Moon Mission Web Pages
 http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/

 As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old
 creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind
 the arguments behind the claims that the Moon Landings were
 a hoax is a religious one. I also suspect that unlike the creationist
 antievolutionists, the promoters of the Moon Landing hoax have
 been for the most part, but not always, been careful to hide their
 religious motivations behind seemingly secular web sites. Of
 course as in case of antievolution, there are also a number of
 conspiracy fans, who for purely secular, nonreligious reasons,
 advocate and promote the fiction about there having been a
 Moon Landing hoax.

 Yours,

 Paul H.


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[bill kies]

Way to go Joe! Your enthusiasm and unbridled energy was always unquestionable. 
Keep following the same course!
 
Bill
 



 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:08:02 -0700
 From: skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

 Listees,
 I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field 
 persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon.

 Best Wishes,
 Joe Kerchner
 http://illinoismeteorites.com
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[meteorite-list] fund raising sale 6.5g claxton+5.5g whetstone

[mckinney trammell]

once again, another severe financial storm for me in this stale economy- need 
to sell to raise funds so that i can keep my house and not have to live in the 
mangroves (for real): 6.5g CLAXTON crusted slice, 12g+ BUZZARD coolee w/papers, 
3.3g BERDOC, an ABSOLUTE KILLER 5.5g complete, crusted slice of WHETSTONE mtn. 
purchased from the finder. if you read dave's book on this, you will have to 
have it. i am taking OFFERS on all. any intelligent offer WILL BE ACCEPTED on 
these super pieces. if they have to go to ebay, prices will be higher to cover 
the exhorbitant fees from ebay. USPS money order or personal cheques drawn on 
u.s. banks/ credit union. int' buyers- email we can work something out. i have 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Jerry Flaherty]

Great news Joe! congratulations

--
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:47 PM
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

The best part is that 2 of my kids were hunting with me and able to see me 
act like a little kid running in circles with my arm in the air. I was 
extremely excited. I really didnt think I was ever gonna end up finding a 
piece.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:08:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

Listees,
  I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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http://skyrockcafe.com





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[meteorite-list] What else could have hit Venus?

[E.P. Grondine]

Hi Sterling - 

Short answer: Try a comet. 

I am suspicious of the crater counts based on the Apollo samples data, as the 
Moon is part of a two body system, the Moon and the Earth. It is very true that 
the money for crater counting has been too low; even the money for 
re-processing earlier planetary surface imagery has been too low. We do have 
one data set right at hand, Earth craters, but guess what - the money for 
studying them has been too low as well. The possible Shiva crater demonstrates 
this all too well. 

We need to know exactly what hit when. For the last 13,000 years or so, it has 
been comet fragments. Whether this represents the long term trend I do not 
know, but I believe Shoemaker may have had it right. 

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Greg Hupe]

Congratulations, Joe! Persistence certainly pays off, and with this, the 
largest known stone from the fall. Sounds like you have most likely helped 
to lengthen the strewnfield... Great job!


Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
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Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
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- Original Message - 
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To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!



Listees,
  I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com





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[meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham finds his first Wisconsin meteorite!

[Michael Johnson]

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/cottingham_wisconsin.html




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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[wahlperry]

Hi Joe ,

I don't know if the first post went through. Way to go, it was a lot of 
fun hunting with you. I just wish I could have seen your face when you 
found the monster meteorite.


Sonny


-Original Message-
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To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 6:08 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!


Listees,   I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 
days in the field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the 
skyrock cafe soon.  Best Wishes,Joe 
Kerchnerhttp://illinoismeteorites.comhttp://skyrockcafe.com  
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[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorites sell on ebay tonight for....

[Brian Cox]

Jiminy Crickets !!!

Lordy have mercy on my soul Miss Scarlet!!

Steve Meteorite Man Arnold's

Wisconsin,   .25 gram meteorite sells for $ 76.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/0-25g-Wisconsin-Fireball-Meteorite-Pt-Slice-Famous-/320522193871?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa09c8bcf

Wisconsin,   .69 gram meteorite sells for $ 214.50

http://cgi.ebay.com/0-69g-Wisconsin-Fireball-Meteorite-Pt-Slice-Famous-/320522194914?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa09c8fe2

1.51 gram Wisconsin meteorite is now over $ 263.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320522195674ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:ITthe
 2.17 gram is now over  $ 405.00 
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-17g-Wisconsin-Fireball-Meteorite-Pt-Slice-Famous-/320522196797?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa09c973dYhoouzaaah!!!
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[meteorite-list] Speaking of Livingston clips

[Darren Garrison]

This is on the front page of CNN.com right now:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/26/wisconsin.meteorite.boomtown/index.html?hpt=C1
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Linton Rohr]

Woohoo! Way to go, Joe!
You certainly earned that one!
Can't wait to see the pics.
Linton

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com

To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 6:08 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!



Listees,
  I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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Re: [meteorite-list] WI hunt

[E.P. Grondine]

Hi everyone - 

First off, now if each of you had just taken a video camera with you, your 
footage could be combined into a great show, and the clearances for the 
original footage would be obtained by the production company. (Perhaps Steve 
and Geoff may be able to help with this.)

Congratulations to all of you meteorite men who hunted and are hunting the 
Livingston fall.

Second, I can't remember now who gave that elementary school talk, (%#$%$^ 
stroke) but thank you for it. I'm sure other schools in the area would like to 
have one given as well (hint, hint). 

I think of all the small fingered meteorite hunters who will be out there 
looking for their own rocks from space in the future, and some of you here are 
going to have to help them with their finds.

good hunting, and congratulations Joe - 

Ed


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Joe Kerchner]

About 20 pics are up on the SkyRock Cafe, here is a link:

http://illinoismeteorites.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?num=1272342465

I am sorry about the photo quality, these pics do it no justice, much better in 
person and even better in hand..

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:47:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

The best part is that 2 of my kids were hunting with me and able to see me act 
like a little kid running in circles with my arm in the air. I was extremely 
excited. I really didnt think I was ever gonna end up finding a piece.

Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:08:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

Listees,
   I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field 
persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. 

Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Cottingham finds his first Wisconsinmeteorite!

[Linton Rohr]

Holy cow!
That may not be the biggest, but it's certainly one of the
nicest looking stones I've seen yet from the fall.
Congratulations Michael C. and thank you Michael J!
Linton

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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[Linton Rohr]

Very, very nice, Joe!
You must be a proud papa.
Do you think it broke on impact or in the air?
Linton

- Original Message - 
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To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34 PM
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About 20 pics are up on the SkyRock Cafe, here is a link:

http://illinoismeteorites.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?num=1272342465

I am sorry about the photo quality, these pics do it no justice, much 
better in person and even better in hand..


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:47:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

The best part is that 2 of my kids were hunting with me and able to see me 
act like a little kid running in circles with my arm in the air. I was 
extremely excited. I really didnt think I was ever gonna end up finding a 
piece.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



- Original Message 
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 8:08:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

Listees,
  I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the 
field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe 
soon.


Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

[thetoprok]

This is great news Joe!

Congradulations on this teriffic find. It took monumental effort and 
rare dedication. I think that when someone is as fired up as you it's 
inevitable that he will score. How cool it must have been to have your 
kids right there at the moment.. Sweet!  I'm not surprised at your 
success, you deserve it.
It was a true pleasure to get to know you and spend some good times in 
the field and I hope to see you at the next one.


As far as that goes, it was a great pleasure to meet so many of you. 
I'm not gonna name em all, you know who you are and I thank you for a 
wonderful hunt and the good words passed on by Ruben and Robert 
Woolard, too kind.


For those headed back or just arriving, Good Luck!

Larry

PS It took me 6 days and about 130 miles of walking, and a new 
transmission for my truck, to find 33.7 grams of pure fusion crusted 
pleasure ! It's got to be the hardest won meteorite I ever found.


-Original Message-
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To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:08 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!

Listees,
   I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in 
the field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock 
cafe soon.


Best Wishes,
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