[meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread Jeff Kuyken

Hi all,

Does anyone know enough about the Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body to know 
what the main differences between the classifications are? Is it just the 
grain size or is there a composition difference etc too? Any paper 
references would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Jeff

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[meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs » Aliens Attack ing Bosnian Man with Meteorites

2010-07-19 Thread Bill Hall
Not sure about this one..

 Anyone heard of this
meteorite attack?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread595074/pg1
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[meteorite-list] AD - lot of 33 metallic labels

2010-07-19 Thread The Tricottet Collection

I thought some list members might be interested by a lot of metallic labels 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - lot of 33 metallic labels - GONE

2010-07-19 Thread The Tricottet Collection

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[meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Jeff and List,

Jeff wrote: Any paper references would be appreciated. 

Here are a few that might be of help:


McCOY T.J. et al. (1992) Petrogenesis of the Lodranite-Acapulcoite
parent body (Meteoritics 27-3, 1992, A258).

P. Pellas et al. (1994) Thermal Evolution of Acapulcoite-Lodranite
Parent Body (Meteoritics 29-4, 1994, A517).

McCOY T.J. et al. (1996) A petrologic, chemical, and isotopic study of
Monument Draw and comparison with other acapulcoites: Evidence for
formation by incipient partial melting (GCA 60, 2681- 2708).

TERRIBILINI D. et al.  (2000) Evidence for common breakup events of the
acapulcoites-lodranites and chondrites (MAPS 35-5, 2000, pp. 1043-1050).

FLOSS C. (2000) Complexities on the acapulcoite-lodranite parent body: Evidence
from trace element distributions in silicate minerals (MAPS 35-5, 2000, pp. 
1073-1085).


MITTLEFEHLDT D.W. (2003) Acapulcoite-lodranite clan achondrites:
How many parent bodies? (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A095).

PATZER A. et al. (2004) Evolution and classification of acapulcoites and
lodranites from a chemical point of view (MAPS 39-1, 2004, 61-85).

EUGSTER O. et al. (2004) Evidence for a two-layer structure of the 
Acapulco/Lodranite
parent asteroid and 5 ma CRE age of four new acapulcoites (MAPS 39-8, 2004, 
A038).

CROWTHER S.A. et al. (2009) Collisional modification of the 
acapulcoite/lodranite parent
body revealed by the iodine-xenon system in lodranites (MAPS 44-8, 2009, 
1151-1159).


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[meteorite-list] Spirit Mars Rover Could Emerge From Slumber Soon

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1007/19spirit/

Red Planet rover could emerge from slumber soon
BY STEPHEN CLARK 
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
July 19, 2010

NASA officials say the best chance to hear from the napping Spirit rover
again will be in September or October, but the timing of the robot's
revival from winter hibernation is an engineering guessing game.

Spirit was forced to sleep by the cold winter in the Martian southern
hemisphere, where low sun angles were not sufficient to power the rover
through solar panels.

The stranded rover last communicated with Earth on March 22. Spirit has
been stuck in a sand pit known as Troy since April 2009, leaving the
rover tilted away from the sun and limiting its ability to produce
electricity.

The winter solstice at Spirit's location was May 13, and conditions
should now be improving. But the rover's batteries likely won't be
collecting enough sunlight to begin communicating again until September
or October.

Spirit's energy production had dipped to 134 watt hours before
controllers lost communications March 22.

While we've passed winter solstice, and the sun is getting a little
higher in the sky, the intensity of the sun is still very low, said
Doug McCuistion, the director of NASA's Mars exploration program. So we
actually don't think we're going to have enough power to hear from it
for another month-and-a-half or two months. The peak probability is
going to be in late September or early October.

But that's just a best guess, according to Steve Squyres, the top
scientist for the Spirit and Opportunity rovers from Cornell University.

It depends on the power projections, which are obviously uncertain,
Squyres said in an interivew last week. It depends very much on how
much dust is on the solar arrays, and we have no way of monitoring that
at the current time. Our best guess is probably like October-ish, but
that's got a lot of uncertainty in it.

NASA's large communications antennas are regularly listening for
messages from Spirit, just in case the rover wakes up earlier than
predicted.

Then there's the concern that Martian dust has accumulated on Spirit's
solar arrays, the robot's lifeline to wake up from its winter slumber.

The solar array panels were pretty dirty, McCuistion said. If there
has not been a cleaning event, and through winter typically you don't
get those, the dust build-up on the arrays could be pretty significant.
So we don't know when we'll be getting enough power into the arrays to
actually get the batteries charged up and get the computers back online.

The dust reduces the efficiency of the craft's fixed solar arrays.
Occasional gusts of wind blow dust off the solar panels, giving the
rovers a jolt of electricity.

But the fortuitous wind gusts aren't common in winter, and if Spirit's
solar panels have collected more dust since March, the rover could face
a master clock fault.

If you stack worst case on top of worst case, there is one failure mode
we could get into, in principle, Squyres said. We think it's unlikely,
but it's possible. It's called a master clock fault. If we have a master
clock fault, we probably wouldn't hear from the vehicle until the next
time we had one of these cleaning events -- the gusts of wind that clean
the solar arrays.

Engineers believe Spirit is now in a low-power fault, in which the craft
only powers its master clock to periodically check its power status
until there is enough electricity to wake up and radio Earth or an
orbiting satellite, according to NASA.

There are two different levels of faults, Squyres said. One is
low-power fault mode, which we know the brand. We know that we've
tripped that, and we think if that's the fault mode that we're in, we
will come out of it sometime probably in October, with big error bars.
If the power has dipped lower than our projections say, which is
possible if there was some big dust event, the next level of fault
protection is the master clock fault. If that happens, it gets much
harder to predict when we might hear from it again.

McCuistion, NASA's top Mars official, said Spirit's sensitive
electronics are being exposed to temperatures they have never seen
before, even lower than worst-case testing conducted before the craft
launched.

It's an environment Spirit's never encountered before, McCuistion
said. Some of this is crossing your fingers and some of it is good
engineering guesses, but none of it is hard science because we just
haven't experienced this before.

If Spirit survives the winter, NASA is planning a series of geophysical
science experiments probing the Red Planet's interior, monitoring
weather and studying the composition of nearby soil.

Studying the deep interior of Mars has long been a high priority for
researchers, according to McCuistion.

Spirit will be used to track tiny wobbles in the rotation of Mars, which
could tell scientists whether the planet has a molten or solid core.

NASA gave up on removing Spirit from its sandy trap in January 

[meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs ? Aliens Attacking Bosnian Man with Meteorites

2010-07-19 Thread Steve Schoner
Gee... Aliens,.. Send some my way, as I can no longer search for them.   Moon 
rock, mars rocks, pallasites, any rare achondrites would be very much 
appreciated, even if they crash through my roof.  

(Extra cash that way as they could be sold with the hole, too.   And it would 
keep my handyman employed, too.) 


Steve Schoner
IMCA #4470
http://www.Petroslides.com

  





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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:05:55 -0700
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:05:55 -0700
From: Bill Hall meteorit...@gmail.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs ? Aliens Attacking Bosnian
Man with Meteorites
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Not sure about this one..

 Anyone heard of this
meteorite attack?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread595074/pg1


To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Not sure about this one..

 Anyone heard of this
meteorite attack?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread595074/pg1




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Re: [meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs ? Aliens Attacking Bosnian

2010-07-19 Thread meteoriteman

How does someone go about getting aliens mad at them? I'd like to really piss 
them off and expand my collection. LOL

Jim K
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Re: [meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs ? Aliens Attacking Bosnian

2010-07-19 Thread Meteorites USA
Be careful what you wish for... Stephen Hawking says: Don't talk to 
aliens...


http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offrlz=1C1AVSU_enUS359US362q=Stephen+Hawking+%2Baliensaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai= 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=ensafe=offrlz=1C1AVSU_enUS359US362q=Stephen+Hawking+%2Baliensaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai=


If aliens exist, and they have the ability to travel through 
interstellar space, they surely won't be throwing meteorites at us. Our 
civilization is most probably extremely primitive compared to the alien 
technology it would require to actually travel to another planet. 
Nuclear weapons? LOL They could probably vaporize our planet just like 
the Emperor did in Star Wars!


Eric


On 7/19/2010 11:50 AM, meteorite...@comcast.net wrote:

How does someone go about getting aliens mad at them? I'd like to really piss 
them off and expand my collection. LOL

Jim K
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Re: [meteorite-list] Several large, rare and/or museum quality specimens - AD

2010-07-19 Thread Barry Hughes
Nice  I just hope I can grab one of these...

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I've just listed several specimens that I'm not using for educational
 outreach or exhibit purposes listed on eBay.  The full list is here:
 http://shop.ebay.com/dbgbogey/m.html

 Several museum quality, rare and large specimens...all at low or no reserve.
 Thanks for giving them a look, and make it a great week!

 All the best,

 Dave Gheesling
 IMCA #5967
 www.fallingrocks.com

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[meteorite-list] Ebay - wholesale lot of uNWA chondrites

2010-07-19 Thread Melanie Matthews
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150469400727ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT


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IMCA: 2975
eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
you're gonna get!




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Re: [meteorite-list] Aliens and UFOs ? Aliens Attacking Bosnian

2010-07-19 Thread Melanie Matthews
LOL you had me laughing my ass off. I would take fragments from each specimen 
then them in for the collections of Greg Catterton, the Hupe's and other 
dealers, AND sell some. 


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eBay: metmel2775
Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09

Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what 
you're gonna get!



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Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 11:50:33 AM
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How does someone go about getting aliens mad at them? I'd like to really piss 
them off and expand my collection. LOL

Jim K
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi All
Had this notice from a history gadget on my iGoogle page today;

1912: A 400 lb meteorite explodes over the town of Holbrook, Arizona

Not sure where the 400 lb came from but was really surprised to see
mention of a meteorite.
I plan to be there one year from now. Anyone else?

Mike


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USA
303-337-4361
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Kowalski
Wow Mike. That's a cool idea. Is the town doing something in 2012 for the 
centenary? If not they might consider having a blowout.

I guess I better make my reservations at the Wig Wam Village now!

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 7:35 PM
 Hi All
 Had this notice from a history gadget on my iGoogle page
 today;
 
 1912: A 400 lb meteorite explodes over the town of
 Holbrook, Arizona
 
 Not sure where the 400 lb came from but was really
 surprised to see
 mention of a meteorite.
 I plan to be there one year from now. Anyone else?
 
 Mike
 
 
 Mike Jensen Meteorites
 16730 E Ada PL
 Aurora, CO 80017-3137
 USA
 303-337-4361
 IMCA 4264
 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Mark Bowling
Wow, how did that get past me!?  99 years - I've been dreaming of that area for 
some time...  Have a happy Holbrook Day Mike  everyone!!
 
And oh yes, I think we need to plan a big hunt on the anniversary, but wasn't 
it 
1912??  Not quite sure now...

Happy hunting,
Mark B.
Vail, AZ



- Original Message 
From: Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 7:35:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

Hi All
Had this notice from a history gadget on my iGoogle page today;

1912: A 400 lb meteorite explodes over the town of Holbrook, Arizona

Not sure where the 400 lb came from but was really surprised to see
mention of a meteorite.
I plan to be there one year from now. Anyone else?

Mike


Mike Jensen Meteorites
16730 E Ada PL
Aurora, CO 80017-3137
USA
303-337-4361
IMCA 4264
website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread al mitt

Hi Jeff,

Here is what McSween has to say about these two classes.  Distinct in
appearance but form a coherent group with continuously varying
characteristics. They share simular mineralogies, both being composed
largely of olivine and pyroxene, with minor plagioclase, iron-nickel metal,
and troilite. They have similar oxygen isotopic composition, however they
don't define a clear mass-fractionation line.

He states that Tim McCoy and colleges shown that the acapuloite-lodranite
achondites represent sesidues from varying degrees of partial melting of
chondrites, ranging from less than 1% to as great as 25%. It is thought that
the lodranite material formed deeper in the parent body, and rising melts
generated from them passed through fractures in the overlying acapulites on
the way to the surface.

An age of 4.56 billion years has been determained for the Acapulco-lodranite
parent body from percise lead isotop chronometer. Partial melting occured
shortly after accretion.

Spectra of acapulcoites are similar to those of ordinary chondrites and
lodranites have spectra similar to a variety of  S subtype asteroids,
suggestions include S(III), S(IV), and S(V) depending on the amount of melt
extracted.

--AL Mitterling


- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:23 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body



Hi all,

Does anyone know enough about the Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body to 
know what the main differences between the classifications are? Is it just 
the grain size or is there a composition difference etc too? Any paper 
references would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread al mitt

Hi Jeff,

Here is what McSween has to say about these two classes.  Distinct in
appearance but form a coherent group with continuously varying
characteristics. They share simular mineralogies, both being composed
largely of olivine and pyroxene, with minor plagioclase, iron-nickel metal,
and troilite. They have similar oxygen isotopic composition, however they
don't define a clear mass-fractionation line.

He states that Tim McCoy and colleges shown that the acapuloite-lodranite
achondites represent sesidues from varying degrees of partial melting of
chondrites, ranging from less than 1% to as great as 25%. It is thought that
the lodranite material formed deeper in the parent body, and rising melts
generated from them passed through fractures in the overlying acapulites on
the way to the surface.

An age of 4.56 billion years has been determained for the Acapulco-lodranite
parent body from percise lead isotop chronometer. Partial melting occured
shortly after accretion.

Spectra of acapulcoites are similar to those of ordinary chondrites and
lodranites have spectra similar to a variety of  S subtype asteroids,
suggestions include S(III), S(IV), and S(V) depending on the amount of melt
extracted.

--AL Mitterling


- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Kuyken

To: Meteorite List
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:23 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body



Hi all,

Does anyone know enough about the Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body to 
know what the main differences between the classifications are? Is it just 
the grain size or is there a composition difference etc too? Any paper 
references would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Jeff 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Meteorites USA
What would be cool is an iPhone App, or email alerts to be sent to your 
mobile on the anniversaries of famous witnessed meteorite falls! With 
50,000+ classified meteorites in the Met-Bull database, there's bound to 
be enough witnessed falls for each day of the year! Now that would be cool.


Talk about meteorite history!

Eric



On 7/19/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

Wow Mike. That's a cool idea. Is the town doing something in 2012 for the 
centenary? If not they might consider having a blowout.

I guess I better make my reservations at the Wig Wam Village now!

--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Mike Jensenmeteoritepl...@gmail.com  wrote:

   

From: Mike Jensenmeteoritepl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99
To: Meteorite Listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 7:35 PM
Hi All
Had this notice from a history gadget on my iGoogle page
today;

1912: A 400 lb meteorite explodes over the town of
Holbrook, Arizona

Not sure where the 400 lb came from but was really
surprised to see
mention of a meteorite.
I plan to be there one year from now. Anyone else?

Mike


Mike Jensen Meteorites
16730 E Ada PL
Aurora, CO 80017-3137
USA
303-337-4361
IMCA 4264
website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Meteorites USA
Mike, can you set it up with custom dates and alerts? Never used it 
before...


Eric



On 7/19/2010 7:35 PM, Mike Jensen wrote:

Hi All
Had this notice from a history gadget on my iGoogle page today;

1912: A 400 lb meteorite explodes over the town of Holbrook, Arizona

Not sure where the 400 lb came from but was really surprised to see
mention of a meteorite.
I plan to be there one year from now. Anyone else?

Mike


Mike Jensen Meteorites
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USA
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[meteorite-list] Smithsonian Magazine

2010-07-19 Thread Impactika
Hello,
 
Do anyone of you read Smithsonian Magazine? 
Did you take a good look at the latest issue?
You might have found there someone we know: Rik Hill, in an article about 
asteroids, and the Catalina Sky Survey. And of course Richard Almahata 
Sitta Kowelski is mentioned too  And so is his rock!

If you don't susbcribe to the Smithsonian, go to their website. Yes, they 
are there too!
_http://www.smithsonianmag.com/specialsections/40th-anniversary/Saving-the-W
orld-From-Asteroids.html_ 
(http://www.smithsonianmag.com/specialsections/40th-anniversary/Saving-the-World-From-Asteroids.html)
 

Congratulations to both of them.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Impactika
Eric,
 
No need for IPhone app, or ..whatever.
The information is already available.
There is a Calendar of Falls right on my site:  
_http://www.impactika.com/birthday.htm_ (http://www.impactika.com/birthday.htm) 
 
You can also find it every month on Meteorite-Times.
 
Sorry, I beat you to it a long time ago.
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2010 9:44:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
e...@meteoritesusa.com writes:
What would be cool is an iPhone App, or email alerts to be sent to your 
mobile on the anniversaries of famous witnessed meteorite falls! With 
50,000+ classified meteorites in the Met-Bull database, there's bound to 
be enough witnessed falls for each day of the year! Now that would be cool.

Talk about meteorite history!

Eric



On 7/19/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:
 Wow Mike. That's a cool idea. Is the town doing something in 2012 for the 
centenary? If not they might consider having a blowout.

 I guess I better make my reservations at the Wig Wam Village now!

 --
 Richard Kowalski

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Re: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Jeff,
There is a great deal of literature online that addresses this topic
-- in addition to the McCoy research.

The general consensus is that the Acapulcoite/Lodranite parent body
was heterogeneously metamorphosed (impact-melted or
partially-differentiated, depending on which paper you read) and was
then  largely broken up by an impact(s) nearly 4.6 billion years ago.

Lodranites and Acapulcoites have been differentiated in the past
almost solely based on structural observations/grain size.

The trouble is that the cutoff between the two has traditionally been
determined by grain size and is not clearly defined - check out the
discussion section of this paper (also in the list of sources below)
for a good summary:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1237.pdf

Here's the meat of it:

Acapulcoites experienced only low degrees of Fe,Ni-
FeS cotectic melting and have maintained essentially
chondritic troilite and plagioclase abundances, whereas
lodranites experienced higher degrees of melting that
included partial silicate melting with subsequent loss of
troilite and/or plagioclase fractions.

If you keep reading through the discussion, you'll find that the
authors call at least a few of McCoy's analyses into question because
they haven't been as mineralogically metamorphosed as their large
grain size would seemingly suggest.  In other words, they're
large-grained acapulcoites.  Or maybe they're transitional.  It just
depends on how you want to break things up.

It's another example of how meteoritics is still a science begging for
a better classification system.  Do we use the degree of metamorphosis
or grain size to determine the class?

Who knows...

Here are some related docs about the classes and parent body - the
first one [ending with 1237.pdf] was the one I noted above:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1237.pdf

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc97/pdf/5200.pdf

http://aaa.wustl.edu/Work/pub_files/acapulcoite_lodranite.html

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6V66-3SVR613-1M_user=10_coverDate=02%2F28%2F1997_rdoc=1_fmt=high_orig=search_sort=d_docanchor=view=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=eaea4c9e7fbd30d2ba053bedb0883412

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20060024503_2006090520.pdf

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009M%26PS...44.1151C

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheNcpsidt=16823360

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6WGF-45FCNK6-5_user=10_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2000_rdoc=1_fmt=high_orig=search_sort=d_docanchor=view=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=7f6c0ded981b140af26e95baafd2d055

http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Book-PrimitiveAchond.html

Regards,
Jason Utas



On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:15 PM, al mitt alm...@kconline.com wrote:
 Hi Jeff,

 Here is what McSween has to say about these two classes.  Distinct in
 appearance but form a coherent group with continuously varying
 characteristics. They share simular mineralogies, both being composed
 largely of olivine and pyroxene, with minor plagioclase, iron-nickel metal,
 and troilite. They have similar oxygen isotopic composition, however they
 don't define a clear mass-fractionation line.

 He states that Tim McCoy and colleges shown that the acapuloite-lodranite
 achondites represent sesidues from varying degrees of partial melting of
 chondrites, ranging from less than 1% to as great as 25%. It is thought that
 the lodranite material formed deeper in the parent body, and rising melts
 generated from them passed through fractures in the overlying acapulites on
 the way to the surface.

 An age of 4.56 billion years has been determained for the Acapulco-lodranite
 parent body from percise lead isotop chronometer. Partial melting occured
 shortly after accretion.

 Spectra of acapulcoites are similar to those of ordinary chondrites and
 lodranites have spectra similar to a variety of  S subtype asteroids,
 suggestions include S(III), S(IV), and S(V) depending on the amount of melt
 extracted.

 --AL Mitterling


 - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken
 To: Meteorite List
 Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:23 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body


 Hi all,

 Does anyone know enough about the Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body to
 know what the main differences between the classifications are? Is it just
 the grain size or is there a composition difference etc too? Any paper
 references would be appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Jeff


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Re: [meteorite-list] Several large, rare and/or museum quality specimens - AD

2010-07-19 Thread Barry Hughes
I'm bidding these up like crazywhere are these reserves???...;)

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Dave Gheesling d...@fallingrocks.com wrote:
 Hi List,

 I've just listed several specimens that I'm not using for educational
 outreach or exhibit purposes listed on eBay.  The full list is here:
 http://shop.ebay.com/dbgbogey/m.html

 Several museum quality, rare and large specimens...all at low or no reserve.
 Thanks for giving them a look, and make it a great week!

 All the best,

 Dave Gheesling
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Happy 99

2010-07-19 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Anne, List,

;) Yes I know... That's what kind of what I'm referring too. Nice Work 
by the way! You've got some great meteorites on your calendar, but it's 
Online. Some people don't have internet on their phones however, they 
can get text alerts. Email alerts would be possible with those who have 
internet capable phones.


Having an alert setup via Google or another online service that sends 
out those alerts on each anniversary of all the famous witnessed falls 
would be very cool.


Regards,
Eric


On 7/19/2010 8:52 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:

Eric,

No need for IPhone app, or ..whatever.
The information is already available.
There is a Calendar of Falls right on my site:
_http://www.impactika.com/birthday.htm_ (http://www.impactika.com/birthday.htm)

You can also find it every month on Meteorite-Times.

Sorry, I beat you to it a long time ago.

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)



In a message dated 7/19/2010 9:44:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
e...@meteoritesusa.com writes:
What would be cool is an iPhone App, or email alerts to be sent to your
mobile on the anniversaries of famous witnessed meteorite falls! With
50,000+ classified meteorites in the Met-Bull database, there's bound to
be enough witnessed falls for each day of the year! Now that would be cool.

Talk about meteorite history!

Eric



On 7/19/2010 8:00 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:
   

Wow Mike. That's a cool idea. Is the town doing something in 2012 for the
 

centenary? If not they might consider having a blowout.
   

I guess I better make my reservations at the Wig Wam Village now!

--
Richard Kowalski
 


   

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[meteorite-list] Very neat crystal formations in Angrite slice

2010-07-19 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. 
Check out this Angrite slice, look close at the melted looking crystal in the 
upper center of the photo and also the crystal formation on the right.
Very cool stuff... 

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Angrite_2-1.jpg
(Slice not for sale, on deposit at Appalachian State University)


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
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