[meteorite-list] BC/Alberta Bright as Sun Bolide 6NOV2011
Dear List, Just breaking: BC/Alberta "Bright as Sun Bolide Meteor" 7:59PM Mountain Time 6NOV2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/11/breaking-news-alberta-canada-large.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 31 - November 4, 2011
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES October 31 - November 4, 2011 o Wind Erosion (31 October 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5749 o Lohse Crater Dunes (01 November 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5750 o Sirenum Fossae (02 November 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5751 o V43168007 (03 November 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5752 o Aureum Chaos(04 November 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5753 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad-some nice items
Asked several times about items, never got a reply. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad-some nice items
Just added to my site at http://www.mhmeteorites.com: Dimmitt TX H3.7 Main Mass-awesome stone. Accepting offers. Sylacauga-small part slices available L'Aigle with museum labels Seymchan 1.3 kg slice with awesome etch Estherville 178g rare end cut. Super nice slice. Oriented shield NWA of a probable LL3. Johnstown, Colorado diogenite and others... Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, Colorado 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gorgeous mirror polished slices of everybodys' favourite 869 ~AD~
Hi List, I can vouch for Jason Borst's polishing and cutting work. He can put a wicked polish on anything and he is very skilled at cutting. He makes the meteorite pendants I offer from time to time, and they always sell out quick. One of the buyers went to Paris with his wife, and they were visiting a high end jewelry boutique while out sight-seeing and shopping. The proprietor of the jewelry store was fascinated by the pendant the buyer's wife was wearing. That pendant was a simple free-form cabochon pendant made of NWA 869 that Jason created. I recently had a batch of a dozen necklace-pendants made from NWA 869 and a half-dozen sets made from Indochinite. All I have left is a single Indochinite pendant. The rest were snapped up. If you get a chance to acquire one of Jason's pieces, don't miss out. :) Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/6/11, jim_brady...@o2.co.uk wrote: > List > I have some full slices of the enigmatic and forever stable and > splendid ,most beautiful to behold and display NWA 869. > I sent 2 specimens to Irish lapidary specialist Jason Borst (http: > //www.opalandjasper.com) who cut them on his homemade saw and then flat > lapped them on both sides to 14 thousand grit.14,000-- these slices > are gleaming. > > >From the 1,548 gram specimen, the saw and lap gave up 874 grams of > slices (excluding endcuts) for a total cut and polish loss of 44% which > is on the high side but the slices are just gorgeous.I wanted to keep > prices as low as possible and am pleased to offer these stupendous > slices at $1.50 a gram. > > I have taken pics and videos of 5 of the slices.The 3 biggest are > 61,62 and 63 grams.For now just the 61 gram has images uploaded. > Please see the 5 slices ranging from 19-61 grams at > http://bit.ly/rVQTpq links to youtoob vids are in the descriptions.The > measurements are also listed in the descriptions and these slices have > a fantastic surface area. > > I have also loaded a 46 gram slice onto ebay starting at 99cents. > This slice is blemished on one side by calcite but the opposite side > would make an excellent display. > 46 gram slice on ebay here : http://bit.ly/sb6NWt > > In addition I've added a beautiful meteorite pendant also made by > Jason. > ebay auction here : http://bit.ly/toNqxP > > Thanks for looking and please don't hesitate with any questions. > > Jim Brady > IMCA 2424 > http://www.emeraldislemeteorites.com > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011
Hi Martin, Glad you reaped such interesting information so quickly! Best. Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts - Original Message - From: "karmaka" To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Dear Mark and list members, It's always interesting and amusing to read what people in the past thought about the origin of meteorites. Here some examples from 19th Century editions of 'Scientific American': In 1848 C.U. Shepard believed in the terrestrial origin of meteorites. Meteorites were believed to rain down from metallic meteoric dust clouds in the upper atmosphere because of the influence of magnetic storms. The dust clouds were thought to have formed from ashes and terrestrial matter which had 'mechanically' been 'elevated' by volcanoes and tornadoes. http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v4/n12/pdf/scientificamerican12091848-94b.pdf (Scientific American, 9 Dec 1848) In 1876 Proctor believed that iron meteorites were ejected from a sun during solar outbursts whereas Moigno believed them to be remains of ancient 'used-up worlds'. "It may be, as Mr. Proctor has suggested, that some of them, the siderites es pecially, have been ejected from our own or some other sun, by some of those tremendousoutbursts of solar energy which we occasionally observe with our spectroscopes ; or they may have originated, as Moigno argues, in the cracking to pieces of some old and used-up world." (from Scientific American, 19 August 1876 ; http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v35/n8/pdf/scientificamerican08191876-119a.pdf ) 'Old worlds' indeed, but not 'used-up'... Unfortunately there is one truly 'used-up world' in the solar system ... our own. Furthermore, 19th Century comparisons are amusing, like these ones: white as chalk, black as coal and Orgueil is 'a mass of rather coherent garden soil' "The aerolite of Bishopsville, S. C., though covered with the invariable black crust, is internally almost as white as chalk, and as light as pumice ; that of Kold Bokkeveld,South Africa, on the other hand, resembles a piece of anthracite coal more than any thing else; and that of Orgueil, a mass of rather coherent garden soil." Must be the most expensive 'garden soil' in the universe Unfortunately many (carbonaceous) meteorites end up becoming soil when plowed under in the fields because they couldn't be found quickly enough. This might have happened to the potential Geislingen meteorites which my German meteorite friends and me were eagerly trying to find in January ... in vain. (Well, not 'in vain' actually because although we didn't find meteorites, we found new friends and experienced cooperation and community ... thus immaterial gratification ... priceless !!!) Too often meteorites are not found (on time) because important information does not flow freely to those (not primarily driven by the 'profit motive') enthusiasts who are willing to spend their time and energy on finding the freshly fallen specimens before planet earth's aggressive oxygen and humidity start their attack on the stony or iron 'aliens'. It's always an unbearable thought that freshly fallen meteorites in developed countries just rot away unnoticed because some people are not willing to cooperate for a 'higher meteoritic goal' ... but that is another never-ending story. Have a nice Sunday while scanning the archives for interesting articles! There is much more to be rediscovered... Martin Von: "Mark Grossman" An: , Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:05:16 +0100 Thanks so much to both Martins for the kind words in the two messages posted this evening. It's a pleasure doing the research and sharing the findings. If anyone finds any interesting or special articles in Scientific American that they would like to share, feel free to post a comment at the end of the Meteorite Manuscripts blog post. Thanks again for the nice words. And if you're interested in the Scientific American articles, remember - the articles are only free until the end of the month! Mark PS - I hope to be posting some manuscript letters again in the near future. Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall - Original Message - From: To: "Mark Grossman" ; Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 > Hello Mark, > > I think I can say this on behalf of many list members. > > Thank you once again for the valuable
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hello Bernd and list, those are well-chosen metaphors, Bernd. The rising of the star mirrors Mirko's rising passion for thin sections. Mirko's work is a good example of an ever-rising passion for meteorites combined with meticulous work resulting in high quality products. Best wishes Martin Von: "Bernd V. Pauli" An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:02:44 +0100 Hello Steve and List, > If any of you have information and experience > with various makers I would appreciate it. Mirko Graul is a rising star at the thin section horizon! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hello Bernd and List, I applaud you on your TS pics on the EoM. I believe i've done okay on the ones i've posted but not happy and will be contacting you in the future for some pointers. I have about 60+ to post but still not pleased with the quality pic i would like. Tom Phillips comes to mind. I have many perfectly prepared iron specimens, the best, from Mirko but didn't know that he is now actually preparing TS's. Best, John. - Original Message - From: "Bernd V. Pauli" To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 12:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers Hello Steve and List, If any of you have information and experience with various makers I would appreciate it. Mirko Graul is a rising star at the thin section horizon! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hello Steve and List, > If any of you have information and experience > with various makers I would appreciate it. Mirko Graul is a rising star at the thin section horizon! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hello Darryl, Steve A, Oh great Darryl, now you've given away a great TS maker. I was hoping to keep him quiet and all to myself! Steve S knows that i wish him and Diane the best and he does put much effort into his wonderful and precise his thin sections. The secret is out. All best, John - Original Message - From: "Darryl Pitt" To: Cc: "Meteorite-list List" Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers Hi, Steve Schoner . On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:09 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hello List, I am curious what options there are for making thin sections? I am sure speed and quality and price all play a role. If any of you have information and experience with various makers I would appreciate it. Replies on or off the list would be great. Thanks Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- 5 Great Meteorite Auctions Ending Today
Dear Meteorite List members, 5 meteorite auctions ending Now! started @ .99 cents. Please visit my eBay http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks www.OUTERSPACEROCKS.com for meteorites professionally presented with provenance: NWA 6077 (2.67g) Incredibly rare, Officially classified Ungrouped Achondrite similar to a Brachinite type meteorite. Many scientist have considered this to be one of the most significant finds in history. To put in perspective how important, this meteorite comes from a time when Earth was a primordial ball of molten rock. It may be the only surviving ancestor of Earth itself. The last time such a important discovery was made is when anthropologist found Lucy the missing link between Ape and Man or maybe the much more petrologically important link between Luce and L'Aigle. This meteorite comes with special documentation and Oxygen isotope information which pairs this stone to the famous NWA 5400. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6077-Ungrouped-Achondrite-Meteorite-2-67g-/320785005176?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab046ba78 NWA 6080 (10.5g Windowed Fragment) Super nice looking Officially classified rare LL4 type meteorite with plenty of Well-formed chondrules. Olivine (Fa28.7-28.9), orthopyroxene (Fs22.7-23.5Wo1.5-1.3). clinopyroxene (Fs7.9-9.4Wo45.1-41.5), sodic plagioclase, chromite, chlorapatite, altered kamacite, taenite, troilite.This would make a super addition to any collection and is a fine windowed fragment with some fusion crust. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6080-LL4-Chondrite-Meteorite-10-5g-windowed-frag-/320785195255?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab049a0f7 NWA 6290 (6g End Cut) One of the newest Vestan siblings.Introducing an incredible, Officially classified Diogenite Breccia meteorite. Made of Fresh polymict breccia composed predominantly of distinctly “milky” orthopyroxene fragments and some polycrystalline clasts, with sparse pigeonite, olivine (bimodal in composition), calcic plagioclase, chromite, troilite and Ni-poor metal. Orthopyroxene (Fs22.9-24.9Wo1.0; FeO/MnO = 30.8-31.0), pigeonite (Fs28.1-29.1Wo13.4-7.0; FeO/MnO = 22/6-26.0), magnesian olivine (Fa12.9-13.1; FeO/MnO = 40.9-48.5), ferroan olivine (Fa31.0; FeO/MnO = 44.2). Most of the orthopyroxene is charged with microscopic inclusions of chromite and troilite, which render it pale tan-colored in thin section. The TKW of this meteorite is only 1000g and this is a excellent end cut displaying some really nice refractory crystals when exposed to light from different angles. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380381625832&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_1284wt_817 OTHER AUCTIONS INCLUDE: NWA 6285 LL5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWA-6285-LL5-Chondrite-Meteorite-6-9g-Part-Slice-/320785114396?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab048651c#ht_1409wt_817 NWA 3151 Brachinite (Hupe Collection) http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320785015097&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT You can conveniently view the sale @ http://stores.ebay.com/Outer-Space-Rocks Thank You Have a Great Day! Sincerely, John Higgins Meteoritical Society Member & International Meteorite Collectors Association Member #9822 email: geohigg...@yahoo.com ebay store:www.outerspacerocks.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Met Bulletin Approvals - Question about the "Tilde" ~
Actually, there are hundreds of these from the last 5 years. They are all equilibrated ordinary chondrites classified by magnetic susceptibility. Because no thin section was prepared, the petrologic type is fairly uncertain. Actually, if there is a lot of weathering, even the chemical group can be more uncertain than usual. Jeff On 11/6/2011 11:28 AM, Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi Gang, Several new meteorites were added to the Met Bulletin yesterday. Many of these have something new I have never seen before. There is a "~" (tilde) in the type. For example - Acfer 393 (H~6) - obvious this means the petrologic type is "approximately" 6, but how/why is this being used in the nomenclature? Were stones like this ambiguous in some way and the exact type could not be determined? Or, is this some new naming convention we will see more of? Here is a link to the new meteorites - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2A&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=2&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=0 All of them, except for two, have this tilde in the type. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone& Ironworks - Meteorites& Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Met Bulletin Approvals - Question about the "Tilde" ~
Hi Gang, Several new meteorites were added to the Met Bulletin yesterday. Many of these have something new I have never seen before. There is a "~" (tilde) in the type. For example - Acfer 393 (H~6) - obvious this means the petrologic type is "approximately" 6, but how/why is this being used in the nomenclature? Were stones like this ambiguous in some way and the exact type could not be determined? Or, is this some new naming convention we will see more of? Here is a link to the new meteorites - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=%2A&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=2&pnt=Normal%20table&dr=&page=0 All of them, except for two, have this tilde in the type. Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hi, Steve Schoner . On Nov 6, 2011, at 11:09 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: > Hello List, > > I am curious what options there are for making thin sections? I am sure > speed and quality and price all play a role. If any of you have information > and experience with various makers I would appreciate it. > > Replies on or off the list would be great. > > Thanks > Steve Arnold > of Meteorite Men > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin Section Makers
Hello List, I am curious what options there are for making thin sections? I am sure speed and quality and price all play a role. If any of you have information and experience with various makers I would appreciate it. Replies on or off the list would be great. Thanks Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869
Hi Melanie, I was lucky enough to get a dinner plate sized 895 gram slice of NWA 869 from Blaine Reed back in 2008. I asked him and the mass he cut to produce it weighed 84 pounds, just short of 40kg. Not sure if anyone out there knows of a larger one. The Metoritical Bulletin just says individual masses to >20kg. Best, Jim Baxter - Original Message - From: "Melanie Matthews" To: "MeteoriteList" Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 5:28:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question about NWA 869 How big is/was the largest NWA869 mass found? --- -Melanie "MetMel" - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! IMCA#: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] We are the Aliens.
Hallo Matthias, "Me thinks the Bard speaks a mind well afront of that even a gipsy could foretell." Anon Your quote is so spot on. Who ever he was, he was no fool. Best personal regards as always, Guido -Original Message- >From: Matthias Bärmann >Sent: Nov 6, 2011 1:24 AM >To: Count Deiro , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Cc: i...@imcamail.de >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] We are the Aliens. > > >Perhaps, Count, listics, it's an invisible and inresistable impulse of pure >possibility which runs through the cosmos and creates it's very own >biological matter to get manifested. William Shekespeare: "We are such stuff >as dreams are made on". > >Oh oh I'm an alien >I'm a legal alien >lalala > >Wish you and all of you a nice Sunday, >Matthias > > >- Original Message - >From: "Count Deiro" >To: >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:41 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] We are the Aliens. > > >> For some time now I have postulated that we human beings are, in fact, the >> aliens in this solar system. We came into this system at its formation >> and, using the same cosmic material, evolved into an organism that >> contains a consciousness that is inexplicable and apparently cannot be >> replicated in any other life form but ours which now dominates this system >> entirely. >> >> Here are a few words attributed to NASA (Alief/Live Leak/author unknown) >> >> "Whether or not you believe in life outside of our solar system, the >> fact that we are all here means that the stuff we're made of must have >> come from somewhere. After studying meteorites and discovering >> ready-made components of DNA present, NASA has concluded that the >> building blocks of life as we know it may have crashed down on Earth >> from above. >> >> Researchers at the Goddard Space Flight Center discovered portions of >> DNA on chunks of crashed space rock in both Antarctica and Australia. >> The extraterrestrial visitors contained various types of nucleobases, >> which >> are thought to be essential in the creation of DNA, and life in general. >> The >> scientists were able to isolate the compounds and prove that they weren't >> created here on Earth. This was particularly important, as critics often >> cite >> contamination as the reason for these compounds appearing on meteorites >> that have been studied in the past. >> >> The team also concluded that certain space rocks — depending on their >> makeup and speed — work like manufacturing facilities for these >> biological precursors. The implications of the discovery are far-reaching, >> and suggest that humanity may owe its existence to a well-placed meteorite >> in the early days of the Earth, and that without it the planet might be a >> rocky, >> watery wasteland." >> >> I believe the term "Panspermia" is used in cosmology as a label for this >> hypothesis. Panspermia, however, doesn't include the proposition that we >> conscious laden beings came from somewhere else in the galaxy arriving >> with the Nebula. >> >> Thoughts, >> >> Count Deiro >> IMCA 3536 MetSoc >> >> >> __ >> Visit the Archives at >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > >__ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6604 >(2005) __ > >E-Mail wurde gepr�ft mit ESET Smart Security. > >http://www.eset.com > > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011
No doubt that was cutting edge theory at the time! David R Childs - Original Message - From: "karmaka" To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Dear Mark and list members, It's always interesting and amusing to read what people in the past thought about the origin of meteorites. Here some examples from 19th Century editions of 'Scientific American': In 1848 C.U. Shepard believed in the terrestrial origin of meteorites. Meteorites were believed to rain down from metallic meteoric dust clouds in the upper atmosphere because of the influence of magnetic storms. The dust clouds were thought to have formed from ashes and terrestrial matter which had 'mechanically' been 'elevated' by volcanoes and tornadoes. http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v4/n12/pdf/scientificamerican12091848-94b.pdf (Scientific American, 9 Dec 1848) In 1876 Proctor believed that iron meteorites were ejected from a sun during solar outbursts whereas Moigno believed them to be remains of ancient 'used-up worlds'. "It may be, as Mr. Proctor has suggested, that some of them, the siderites es pecially, have been ejected from our own or some other sun, by some of those tremendousoutbursts of solar energy which we occasionally observe with our spectroscopes ; or they may have originated, as Moigno argues, in the cracking to pieces of some old and used-up world." (from Scientific American, 19 August 1876 ; http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v35/n8/pdf/scientificamerican08191876-119a.pdf ) 'Old worlds' indeed, but not 'used-up'... Unfortunately there is one truly 'used-up world' in the solar system ... our own. Furthermore, 19th Century comparisons are amusing, like these ones: white as chalk, black as coal and Orgueil is 'a mass of rather coherent garden soil' "The aerolite of Bishopsville, S. C., though covered with the invariable black crust, is internally almost as white as chalk, and as light as pumice ; that of Kold Bokkeveld,South Africa, on the other hand, resembles a piece of anthracite coal more than any thing else; and that of Orgueil, a mass of rather coherent garden soil." Must be the most expensive 'garden soil' in the universe Unfortunately many (carbonaceous) meteorites end up becoming soil when plowed under in the fields because they couldn't be found quickly enough. This might have happened to the potential Geislingen meteorites which my German meteorite friends and me were eagerly trying to find in January ... in vain. (Well, not 'in vain' actually because although we didn't find meteorites, we found new friends and experienced cooperation and community ... thus immaterial gratification ... priceless !!!) Too often meteorites are not found (on time) because important information does not flow freely to those (not primarily driven by the 'profit motive') enthusiasts who are willing to spend their time and energy on finding the freshly fallen specimens before planet earth's aggressive oxygen and humidity start their attack on the stony or iron 'aliens'. It's always an unbearable thought that freshly fallen meteorites in developed countries just rot away unnoticed because some people are not willing to cooperate for a 'higher meteoritic goal' ... but that is another never-ending story. Have a nice Sunday while scanning the archives for interesting articles! There is much more to be rediscovered... Martin Von: "Mark Grossman" An: , Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:05:16 +0100 Thanks so much to both Martins for the kind words in the two messages posted this evening. It's a pleasure doing the research and sharing the findings. If anyone finds any interesting or special articles in Scientific American that they would like to share, feel free to post a comment at the end of the Meteorite Manuscripts blog post. Thanks again for the nice words. And if you're interested in the Scientific American articles, remember - the articles are only free until the end of the month! Mark PS - I hope to be posting some manuscript letters again in the near future. Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall - Original Message - From: To: "Mark Grossman" ; Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 > Hello Mark, > > I think I can say this on behalf of many list members. > > Thank you once again for the valuable information you share with us. > > It is, as always
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011
Dear Mark and list members, It's always interesting and amusing to read what people in the past thought about the origin of meteorites. Here some examples from 19th Century editions of 'Scientific American': In 1848 C.U. Shepard believed in the terrestrial origin of meteorites. Meteorites were believed to rain down from metallic meteoric dust clouds in the upper atmosphere because of the influence of magnetic storms. The dust clouds were thought to have formed from ashes and terrestrial matter which had 'mechanically' been 'elevated' by volcanoes and tornadoes. http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v4/n12/pdf/scientificamerican12091848-94b.pdf (Scientific American, 9 Dec 1848) In 1876 Proctor believed that iron meteorites were ejected from a sun during solar outbursts whereas Moigno believed them to be remains of ancient 'used-up worlds'. "It may be, as Mr. Proctor has suggested, that some of them, the siderites es pecially, have been ejected from our own or some other sun, by some of those tremendousoutbursts of solar energy which we occasionally observe with our spectroscopes ; or they may have originated, as Moigno argues, in the cracking to pieces of some old and used-up world." (from Scientific American, 19 August 1876 ; http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v35/n8/pdf/scientificamerican08191876-119a.pdf ) 'Old worlds' indeed, but not 'used-up'... Unfortunately there is one truly 'used-up world' in the solar system ... our own. Furthermore, 19th Century comparisons are amusing, like these ones: white as chalk, black as coal and Orgueil is 'a mass of rather coherent garden soil' "The aerolite of Bishopsville, S. C., though covered with the invariable black crust, is internally almost as white as chalk, and as light as pumice ; that of Kold Bokkeveld,South Africa, on the other hand, resembles a piece of anthracite coal more than any thing else; and that of Orgueil, a mass of rather coherent garden soil." Must be the most expensive 'garden soil' in the universe Unfortunately many (carbonaceous) meteorites end up becoming soil when plowed under in the fields because they couldn't be found quickly enough. This might have happened to the potential Geislingen meteorites which my German meteorite friends and me were eagerly trying to find in January ... in vain. (Well, not 'in vain' actually because although we didn't find meteorites, we found new friends and experienced cooperation and community ... thus immaterial gratification ... priceless !!!) Too often meteorites are not found (on time) because important information does not flow freely to those (not primarily driven by the 'profit motive') enthusiasts who are willing to spend their time and energy on finding the freshly fallen specimens before planet earth's aggressive oxygen and humidity start their attack on the stony or iron 'aliens'. It's always an unbearable thought that freshly fallen meteorites in developed countries just rot away unnoticed because some people are not willing to cooperate for a 'higher meteoritic goal' ... but that is another never-ending story. Have a nice Sunday while scanning the archives for interesting articles! There is much more to be rediscovered... Martin Von: "Mark Grossman" An: , Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:05:16 +0100 Thanks so much to both Martins for the kind words in the two messages posted this evening. It's a pleasure doing the research and sharing the findings. If anyone finds any interesting or special articles in Scientific American that they would like to share, feel free to post a comment at the end of the Meteorite Manuscripts blog post. Thanks again for the nice words. And if you're interested in the Scientific American articles, remember - the articles are only free until the end of the month! Mark PS - I hope to be posting some manuscript letters again in the near future. Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall - Original Message - From: To: "Mark Grossman" ; Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 > Hello Mark, > > I think I can say this on behalf of many list members. > > Thank you once again for the valuable information you share with us. > > It is, as always, much appreciated! > > Keep up the good work! > > Martin > > > Von: "Mark Grossman" > An: > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available > until November 30, 2011 > Datum: Sun, 06 No
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011
Hello Mark, I think I can say this on behalf of many list members. Thank you once again for the valuable information you share with us. It is, as always, much appreciated! Keep up the good work! Martin Von: "Mark Grossman" An: Betreff: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:21:33 +0100 If you would like to learn more about free access to Scientific American articles, some of which are useful to those interested in the history of meteorites, see the Meteorite Manuscripts blog by clicking on one of the links below. Thanks! Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] We are the Aliens.
Perhaps, Count, listics, it's an invisible and inresistable impulse of pure possibility which runs through the cosmos and creates it's very own biological matter to get manifested. William Shekespeare: "We are such stuff as dreams are made on". Oh oh I'm an alien I'm a legal alien lalala Wish you and all of you a nice Sunday, Matthias - Original Message - From: "Count Deiro" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 6:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] We are the Aliens. For some time now I have postulated that we human beings are, in fact, the aliens in this solar system. We came into this system at its formation and, using the same cosmic material, evolved into an organism that contains a consciousness that is inexplicable and apparently cannot be replicated in any other life form but ours which now dominates this system entirely. Here are a few words attributed to NASA (Alief/Live Leak/author unknown) "Whether or not you believe in life outside of our solar system, the fact that we are all here means that the stuff we're made of must have come from somewhere. After studying meteorites and discovering ready-made components of DNA present, NASA has concluded that the building blocks of life as we know it may have crashed down on Earth from above. Researchers at the Goddard Space Flight Center discovered portions of DNA on chunks of crashed space rock in both Antarctica and Australia. The extraterrestrial visitors contained various types of nucleobases, which are thought to be essential in the creation of DNA, and life in general. The scientists were able to isolate the compounds and prove that they weren't created here on Earth. This was particularly important, as critics often cite contamination as the reason for these compounds appearing on meteorites that have been studied in the past. The team also concluded that certain space rocks — depending on their makeup and speed — work like manufacturing facilities for these biological precursors. The implications of the discovery are far-reaching, and suggest that humanity may owe its existence to a well-placed meteorite in the early days of the Earth, and that without it the planet might be a rocky, watery wasteland." I believe the term "Panspermia" is used in cosmology as a label for this hypothesis. Panspermia, however, doesn't include the proposition that we conscious laden beings came from somewhere else in the galaxy arriving with the Nebula. Thoughts, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 MetSoc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6604 (2005) __ E-Mail wurde gepr�ft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: British museum photo cards from 1922 depicting British meteorites for sale/trade
Hi all, I still have one set of these photo cards available for sale or trade. These meteorite photocards were Issued by the British Museum in 1922. They are in excellent condition and come in the envelope they were issued in. They really are superb and look much better in hand than in photos. Not very often seen for sale if at all i am asking for $175 including shipping. See photos at the link below: ( http://s1130.photobucket.com/albums/m531/msg-meteorites/?albumview=slideshow ) I am open to trade offers so drop me a line if interested. Cheers Martin www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA member 3387 Sent from my HTC Sensation mobile phone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011
Thanks so much to both Martins for the kind words in the two messages posted this evening. It's a pleasure doing the research and sharing the findings. If anyone finds any interesting or special articles in Scientific American that they would like to share, feel free to post a comment at the end of the Meteorite Manuscripts blog post. Thanks again for the nice words. And if you're interested in the Scientific American articles, remember - the articles are only free until the end of the month! Mark PS - I hope to be posting some manuscript letters again in the near future. Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall - Original Message - From: To: "Mark Grossman" ; Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Hello Mark, I think I can say this on behalf of many list members. Thank you once again for the valuable information you share with us. It is, as always, much appreciated! Keep up the good work! Martin Von: "Mark Grossman" An: Betreff: [meteorite-list] Scientific American Archives 1845-1909 available until November 30, 2011 Datum: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:21:33 +0100 If you would like to learn more about free access to Scientific American articles, some of which are useful to those interested in the history of meteorites, see the Meteorite Manuscripts blog by clicking on one of the links below. Thanks! Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts http://meteoritemanuscripts.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/MetManuscripts http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Meteorite-Manuscripts/152949358073543?sk=wall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list