Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Sikhote-Alin meteorite is recovered and returned back home to UNM
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/SA-RECOVERY.html Gorgeous piece and a very happy man! Is the whole story officially known at this time? Alex Berlin/Germany __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD eBay auction ending and more...
Dear List Members, I have some ending auctions: Beauty SAU 001 individual piece http://www.ebay.com/itm/190622794050?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_671wt_665 Tamdakht fall: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190622795052?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_595wt_1144 And Master Piece in buy it now option: http://www.ebay.com/itm/190624778099?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_595wt_1144 Also I have some pieces for sale : NWA 1890 Eucrite slice, one of the best breccia, beauty slice : https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/NWA1980Eucrite23gSlice?authkey=Gv1sRgCOOE06ukyPWyxQE NWA 6069, Ureilite slcie (last available) : https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/NWA6069UreiliteSlice23g And beauty SAU 001, 1296g, bit oriented piece with great crust and shape: https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/SAU0011296g?authkey=Gv1sRgCLiVvfuh3L33pQE Amazing almost 10kg NWA chondrite piece, breccia, fresh inside : https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/NWA98Kg All question please send to illae...@gmail.com All the best Tomasz Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Managing Editor http://www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/ -- Free Tibet __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
NWA 5557 http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites fall in central Finland
http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2012/01/meteorites_fall_in_central_finland_3157267.html Parts of a fireball seen in Finnish skies on Tuesday evening have fallen in central Finland. According to the Finnish astronomy magazine Tähdet ja Avaruus (Stars and Space), the fireball fragmented, with the majority of pieces falling near the centre of Jämsä town. The largest pieces to land on earth weighed about one kilogram, according to calculations made by the meteorite section of Ursa Astronomical Association. Snow may have covered signs of the landings. However, meteorite fragments could still be found. According to Stars and Space magazine, it is rare to have meteorite impact close to large populated areas in Finland. A similar event last took place over a hundred years ago, when meteorites fell near the town of Mikkeli. The meteorites in the vicinity of Jämsä originate in a larger body that entered the earth’s atmosphere around Narva in Estonia. The velocity of the object was about 19 kilometres per second, which is relatively low. The daily paper Iltalehti first reported on the meteorite in Finland. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Ebay auctions-Ureilite, Muonionalusta, Tata, St Severin, Casilda
Within the next 8 hours, please have a look. Reasonable offers accepted. http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites/ Also on my site I will be adding some very nice Estherville slices, Tata crusted fragments, Saint-Severin and Casilda. Email me for details ahead of time. http://www.mhmeteorites.com See you soon in Tucson, Matt __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - 30% OFF Storewide Sale - Camel Donga, Sudbury, Chergach, and Antique Cameras (?!)
Greetings Friends and Collectors, I have an eclectic assortment of meteorites and some oddball items to offer this week. In addition to some nice space rocks, I have a few antique film cameras up for grabs. I don't know if anyone on this List collects old cameras, but if this sort of thing interests you, then take a look. I am open to trades on these cameras, so make me an offer if you want to add these to your collection. I am currently offering a 30% discount on all items - use coupon code bigsale at checkout to get the discount. Meteorite Specimens - Camel Donga (Vestan eucrite - crusted stone, 1.62g) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/camel-donga-famous-australian-eucrite-from-vesta-micro-1 Chergach (Hammer fall, crusted stone, 2.57g) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/chergach-h5-chondrite-meteorite-witnessed-hammer-fall-1 Chergach (Hammer fall, oriented w/ rollover lip, 1.4g) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/chergach-h5-chondrite-witnessed-hammer-fall-15g Sudbury (Black Onaping Suevite, polished slice, 40g) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/sudbury-impactite-black-onaping-breccia-big-endcut-610g Fossils, Trinitite, and Other Specimens - Trilobite fossil (Cambrian period w/ display case) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/trilobite-ancient-arthropod-fossil-devonian-period Trinitite Dealer Lot - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/trinitite-dealer-wholesale-lot-30-grams-dozens-of-pieces Trinitite (Large Red Fragment) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/trinitite-rare-red-variant-nice-fragment Ultimate Exotic Collection Kit - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/the-ultimate-exotic-collection-kit-meteorite-moldavite-fossils-gemstones-amber-and-more Antique Cameras - 1930's Kodak Six-20 - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/kodak-junior-six-20--antique-film-camera-1930s Sankyo Super 8mm - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/sankyo-super-8-lxl--antique-japanese-movie-camera German Ansco Karomat 35mm - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/ansco-karomat-35mm--antique-german-camera All of the newest specimens - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new Thanks for looking! MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Radar Image?
Since it's near my locale, I was interested in the fireball reported near Wisconsin on Jan 2nd. More info here: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/ia-wi-mn-meteor-fireball-2jan2012.html. I found some archived nexrad data that seems to show a debris trail at the correct time: http://vortex.plymouth.edu/gen_nids.cgi?ident=ARXpl=dhryy=2012mm=01dd=02hh=14nn=00size=1280x960loop=yes2zoom=.173center= The radar image is in the general direction of the fireball as caught by Tim Cline's all sky camera: http://www.timcline.org/meteors/meteors_night_sky_cam_2012.php Any thoughts?? Is this real and might there be Rocks on the Ground? RandyL __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Sikhote-Alin meteorite is recovered and return...
Hello Alex and all, Last I heard, just a couple days ago, the thief had not yet been arrested, but it is known that he has access to the Internet. So, I believe it would be wise to say very little about the whole case either here or on Facebook. I am sure no one wants to interfer with the investigation. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 1/8/2012 3:43:46 AM Mountain Standard Time, g...@gmx.net writes: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/SA-RECOVERY.html Gorgeous piece and a very happy man! Is the whole story officially known at this time? Alex Berlin/Germany __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Fresh Buzzard Coulee
Alright folks. I guess its time to play Make Me an Offer. ANY and ALL offers will be considered. Good luck! Ryan -- fallingfusion.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote: Good Evening List Members, I would like to pass along a very nice Buzzard Coulee stone to ya'll. It has a great shape, fresh as can be, and has a weight of 63.54g - ~95% crusted (with some secondary crust as well. Priced at $640 shipped via Priority Mail. Have a look here: http://community.webshots.com/album/569165160RMTnOx?vhost=communitystart=12 (last four photos on the page) Please send private email with any inquiries. Thank you. Ryan Pawelski fallingfusion.com __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury
Hi, All, I know there's been only scattered remarks about the Messenger mission, but is the current consensus that angrites do not originate from Mercury? Best, Pete From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:20:11 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Wanted-Meteorites-from-Mercury-136803313.html Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury By Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope January 6, 2012 During a recent science conference discussing Messenger's results from Mercury, investigator Shoshana Weider (Carnegie Institution of Washington) commented, Short of landing on the surface, picking up a rock, and bringing it home, the instruments on Messenger that characterize chemistry are the best we're going to get. Well, Shoshana, you might still get to hold such a rock someday. According to a 2008 analysis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0801/0801.4038.pdf by Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British Columbia), chunks of Mercury should be lying somewhere on Earth right now. The dynamicists conclude that 2% to 5% of the debris blasted by impacts off the surface of Mercury at or above escape velocity (2.6 miles per second) should reach Earth within 30 million years. Their numbers suggest that Mercurian meteorites should be roughly one third as common as those from Mars, for which the count now stands at 60. Gladman conservatively suggests that at least a half dozen stones should be lying around somewhere on terra firma. Meteorite collectors would value a Mercurian meteorite above all others, likely fetching $5,000 or more per gram, so they've been on the lookout for one. A few years ago, prior to Messenger's arrival, meteoriticists had speculated that the best existing match to Mercury were a rare handful of ancient, basalt-rich stones known as angrites http://research.jsc.nasa.gov/PDF/Ares-1.pdf. But even before Messenger's arrival, ground-based astronomers had concluded that Mercurian surface rocks contained very little iron - strange indeed, given that the innermost planet has an iron core that takes up 80% of its diameter and more than half of its volume! At that time, comments geochemist David Blewett (Applied Physics Laboratory), people were expecting Mercury to have a composition more like a lower-iron version of the lunar highlands. We now know that it's much different than that. After nearly a yearly scrutinizing the planet from orbit, Messenger has confirmed that iron is in short supply at the surface. Instead, the compositional clues suggest that a Mercurian meteorite would be an igneous rock - or perhaps a fused breccia of different rock types - rich in magnesium and volatile elements (especially sulfur and potassium). This closely matches the composition of another rare meteorite group, the aubrites. Also known as enstatite achondrites, aubrites are igneous rocks dominated by the iron-free mineral enstatite (Mg_2 Si_2 O_6 ). But aubrites aren't from the innermost planet. For one thing, they're too reflective - anything coming from Mercury would be much darker, tinted by some yet-to-be-identified compound that's seen widely http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA14492 in Messenger's images. It might also smell faintly of sulfur, appear heavily shocked, exhibit significant exposure to cosmic rays, and might even be slightly magnetic. Such characteristics would certainly have come to the attention of hunters and collectors, and it's safe to say that none of the world's 40,000 well-documented meteorites are from Mercury. Yet dynamical probabilities argue otherwise, so why haven't such samples been found? Gladman and Coffey didn't address how chunks of rock might get blasted off the Mercurian surface, only that the high collision velocities of asteroids and comets should make it easy to do so. Maybe the launch mechanics aren't understood well enough, suggests Jay Melosh, an impact specialist at Purdue University. Perhaps at the very high speeds required for direct transfer, the fragments are simply too small, he says. These ejecta have to be launched from the surface very close to the impact point - and perhaps our current models do not give very good results here. However, Messenger finds that big impacts on Mercury are accompanied by clusters of secondary pits, created by tossed-out debris, that are generally much larger - not smaller - than those around comparable lunar craters. This fact is one of the current big puzzles about the Mercurian cratering record, Melosh concedes. And so the search goes on for what will almost certainly be the most celebrated meteorite discovery since the finding of stones blasted from surfaces of the Moon and Mars a few decades ago. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury
That is what was mentioned in the article. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Pete Pete Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:12 PM To: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov ; meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi, All, I know there's been only scattered remarks about the Messenger mission, but is the current consensus that angrites do not originate from Mercury? Best, Pete From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:20:11 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Wanted-Meteorites-from-Mercury-136803313.html Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury By Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope January 6, 2012 During a recent science conference discussing Messenger's results from Mercury, investigator Shoshana Weider (Carnegie Institution of Washington) commented, Short of landing on the surface, picking up a rock, and bringing it home, the instruments on Messenger that characterize chemistry are the best we're going to get. Well, Shoshana, you might still get to hold such a rock someday. According to a 2008 analysis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0801/0801.4038.pdf by Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British Columbia), chunks of Mercury should be lying somewhere on Earth right now. The dynamicists conclude that 2% to 5% of the debris blasted by impacts off the surface of Mercury at or above escape velocity (2.6 miles per second) should reach Earth within 30 million years. Their numbers suggest that Mercurian meteorites should be roughly one third as common as those from Mars, for which the count now stands at 60. Gladman conservatively suggests that at least a half dozen stones should be lying around somewhere on terra firma. Meteorite collectors would value a Mercurian meteorite above all others, likely fetching $5,000 or more per gram, so they've been on the lookout for one. A few years ago, prior to Messenger's arrival, meteoriticists had speculated that the best existing match to Mercury were a rare handful of ancient, basalt-rich stones known as angrites http://research.jsc.nasa.gov/PDF/Ares-1.pdf. But even before Messenger's arrival, ground-based astronomers had concluded that Mercurian surface rocks contained very little iron - strange indeed, given that the innermost planet has an iron core that takes up 80% of its diameter and more than half of its volume! At that time, comments geochemist David Blewett (Applied Physics Laboratory), people were expecting Mercury to have a composition more like a lower-iron version of the lunar highlands. We now know that it's much different than that. After nearly a yearly scrutinizing the planet from orbit, Messenger has confirmed that iron is in short supply at the surface. Instead, the compositional clues suggest that a Mercurian meteorite would be an igneous rock - or perhaps a fused breccia of different rock types - rich in magnesium and volatile elements (especially sulfur and potassium). This closely matches the composition of another rare meteorite group, the aubrites. Also known as enstatite achondrites, aubrites are igneous rocks dominated by the iron-free mineral enstatite (Mg_2 Si_2 O_6 ). But aubrites aren't from the innermost planet. For one thing, they're too reflective - anything coming from Mercury would be much darker, tinted by some yet-to-be-identified compound that's seen widely http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA14492 in Messenger's images. It might also smell faintly of sulfur, appear heavily shocked, exhibit significant exposure to cosmic rays, and might even be slightly magnetic. Such characteristics would certainly have come to the attention of hunters and collectors, and it's safe to say that none of the world's 40,000 well-documented meteorites are from Mercury. Yet dynamical probabilities argue otherwise, so why haven't such samples been found? Gladman and Coffey didn't address how chunks of rock might get blasted off the Mercurian surface, only that the high collision velocities of asteroids and comets should make it easy to do so. Maybe the launch mechanics aren't understood well enough, suggests Jay Melosh, an impact specialist at Purdue University. Perhaps at the very high speeds required for direct transfer, the fragments are simply too small, he says. These ejecta have to be launched from the surface very close to the impact point - and perhaps our current models do not give very good results here. However, Messenger finds that big impacts on Mercury are accompanied by clusters of secondary pits, created by tossed-out debris, that are generally much larger - not smaller - than those around comparable lunar craters. This fact is one of the current big puzzles about the Mercurian cratering record, Melosh concedes. And so the search goes
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury
Hi, You may or may not remember that what made possible the positive identification of Martian meteorites AS Martian meteorites was that we had samples from the Martian surface. No, not rock samples, nor any returned samples, but the isotopic composition of rare gases in the Martian atmosphere, which made a distinctive and unusual signature (particularly for Argon). The SNC's shared this unique signature. It was like a fingerprint. And possible only because we had a lander on the surface.. Mercury has no atmosphere of any consequence and we have no lander there. It's always possible that our present sensing capacity will turn up something as definite, but I can't think of what it could be. Believe me, I've tried. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi Pete and List, There is really no evidence that supports the Mercury-angrite connection. However, if a meteorite from Mercury is ever confirmed, it is expected to be similar to angrites. Because angrites are so unusual (in comparison to other meteorites) and they possess properties that would be expected from a Mercury meteorite, they are the leading candidates. But as far as I know, nothing definitive has ever come to light that makes a solid connection between angrites and Mercury (or any other parent body). Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 1/8/12, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: That is what was mentioned in the article. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Pete Pete Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:12 PM To: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov ; meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi, All, I know there's been only scattered remarks about the Messenger mission, but is the current consensus that angrites do not originate from Mercury? Best, Pete From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:20:11 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Wanted-Meteorites-from-Mercury-136803313.html Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury By Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope January 6, 2012 During a recent science conference discussing Messenger's results from Mercury, investigator Shoshana Weider (Carnegie Institution of Washington) commented, Short of landing on the surface, picking up a rock, and bringing it home, the instruments on Messenger that characterize chemistry are the best we're going to get. Well, Shoshana, you might still get to hold such a rock someday. According to a 2008 analysis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0801/0801.4038.pdf by Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British Columbia), chunks of Mercury should be lying somewhere on Earth right now. The dynamicists conclude that 2% to 5% of the debris blasted by impacts off the surface of Mercury at or above escape velocity (2.6 miles per second) should reach Earth within 30 million years. Their numbers suggest that Mercurian meteorites should be roughly one third as common as those from Mars, for which the count now stands at 60. Gladman conservatively suggests that at least a half dozen stones should be lying around somewhere on terra firma. Meteorite collectors would value a Mercurian meteorite above all others, likely fetching $5,000 or more per gram, so they've been on the lookout for one. A few years ago, prior to Messenger's arrival, meteoriticists had speculated that the best existing match to Mercury were a rare handful of ancient, basalt-rich stones known as angrites http://research.jsc.nasa.gov/PDF/Ares-1.pdf. But even before Messenger's arrival, ground-based astronomers had concluded that Mercurian surface rocks contained very little iron - strange indeed, given that the innermost planet has an iron core that takes up 80% of its diameter and more than half of its volume! At that time, comments geochemist David Blewett (Applied Physics Laboratory), people were expecting Mercury to have a composition more like a lower-iron version of the lunar highlands. We now know that it's much different than that. After nearly a yearly scrutinizing the planet
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury
List, I've also wondered on Mercurian meteorites, and I know there is a theory that Mercury was involved in a large collision early in the development of the solar system, and that this collision blasted off the entire outside of Mercury leaving behind the planet we know today. I've pondered that it may be possible that some of this material that made up something like 40% of Mercury pre-collision could be responsible for some of the classes of meteorites today that we know come from large, differentiated parent bodies, but do not know what those bodies could be, i.e. Angrites. If any of that pre-collision Mercury crust and mantle is out there would we even have a way to relate it back to the Mercury of today? We may never know. Regards, Michael in so. Cal. On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, You may or may not remember that what made possible the positive identification of Martian meteorites AS Martian meteorites was that we had samples from the Martian surface. No, not rock samples, nor any returned samples, but the isotopic composition of rare gases in the Martian atmosphere, which made a distinctive and unusual signature (particularly for Argon). The SNC's shared this unique signature. It was like a fingerprint. And possible only because we had a lander on the surface.. Mercury has no atmosphere of any consequence and we have no lander there. It's always possible that our present sensing capacity will turn up something as definite, but I can't think of what it could be. Believe me, I've tried. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi Pete and List, There is really no evidence that supports the Mercury-angrite connection. However, if a meteorite from Mercury is ever confirmed, it is expected to be similar to angrites. Because angrites are so unusual (in comparison to other meteorites) and they possess properties that would be expected from a Mercury meteorite, they are the leading candidates. But as far as I know, nothing definitive has ever come to light that makes a solid connection between angrites and Mercury (or any other parent body). Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 1/8/12, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: That is what was mentioned in the article. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Pete Pete Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:12 PM To: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov ; meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi, All, I know there's been only scattered remarks about the Messenger mission, but is the current consensus that angrites do not originate from Mercury? Best, Pete From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:20:11 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Wanted-Meteorites-from-Mercury-136803313.html Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury By Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope January 6, 2012 During a recent science conference discussing Messenger's results from Mercury, investigator Shoshana Weider (Carnegie Institution of Washington) commented, Short of landing on the surface, picking up a rock, and bringing it home, the instruments on Messenger that characterize chemistry are the best we're going to get. Well, Shoshana, you might still get to hold such a rock someday. According to a 2008 analysis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0801/0801.4038.pdf by Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British Columbia), chunks of Mercury should be lying somewhere on Earth right now. The dynamicists conclude that 2% to 5% of the debris blasted by impacts off the surface of Mercury at or above escape velocity (2.6 miles per second) should reach Earth within 30 million years. Their numbers suggest that Mercurian meteorites should be roughly one third as common as those from Mars, for which the count now stands at 60. Gladman conservatively suggests that at least a half dozen stones should be lying around somewhere on terra firma. Meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury
Sterling, list, I would never try to second guess you sterling but, it seems this topic has come up quite a bit and the big question always has to do with mineralogy. The truth is that Mercury's Oxygen isotopes may be the same as Earth as are many others within our same Zone such as Aubrites, our moon and few others. So, From what I read of this latest information a rock from Mercury might have the following specs: Magnesium rich- this describes Olivine and particularly Forsterite. Volitiles- Potassium-This describes feldspar. Darker colored than Aubrites- This means any color but white? Appear heavily shocked- Nothing more shocked than an IMB (impact melt breccia) High levels of Cosmic Ray exposure. Slightly magnetic (attracted to a magnet). This pretty much describes Cat MT. and I mentioned this in an earlier post on this same topic but, got no responses. I am curious to hear from you and others about this because Cat MT does have all of the above with the possible exception of the Cosmic ray exposure because I'm not sure that has ever been tested . Hopefully my lost in the UPS Cat MT. will some day be found and if returned I will happily supply plenty for this testing if need be. Carl meteoritemax Cheers Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, You may or may not remember that what made possible the positive identification of Martian meteorites AS Martian meteorites was that we had samples from the Martian surface. No, not rock samples, nor any returned samples, but the isotopic composition of rare gases in the Martian atmosphere, which made a distinctive and unusual signature (particularly for Argon). The SNC's shared this unique signature. It was like a fingerprint. And possible only because we had a lander on the surface.. Mercury has no atmosphere of any consequence and we have no lander there. It's always possible that our present sensing capacity will turn up something as definite, but I can't think of what it could be. Believe me, I've tried. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov; meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi Pete and List, There is really no evidence that supports the Mercury-angrite connection. However, if a meteorite from Mercury is ever confirmed, it is expected to be similar to angrites. Because angrites are so unusual (in comparison to other meteorites) and they possess properties that would be expected from a Mercury meteorite, they are the leading candidates. But as far as I know, nothing definitive has ever come to light that makes a solid connection between angrites and Mercury (or any other parent body). Best regards, MikeG -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** On 1/8/12, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: That is what was mentioned in the article. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com -Original Message- From: Pete Pete Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:12 PM To: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov ; meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury Hi, All, I know there's been only scattered remarks about the Messenger mission, but is the current consensus that angrites do not originate from Mercury? Best, Pete From: baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:20:11 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/Wanted-Meteorites-from-Mercury-136803313.html Wanted: Meteorites from Mercury By Kelly Beatty Sky Telescope January 6, 2012 During a recent science conference discussing Messenger's results from Mercury, investigator Shoshana Weider (Carnegie Institution of Washington) commented, Short of landing on the surface, picking up a rock, and bringing it home, the instruments on Messenger that characterize chemistry are the best we're going to get. Well, Shoshana, you might still get to hold such a rock someday. According to a 2008 analysis http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0801/0801.4038.pdf by Brett Gladman and Jaime Coffey (University of British
[meteorite-list] Send me your Meteorite Picture now
Being a dealer of meteorites means being able to buy and sell. That's the definition of dealer in the dictionary. Is a person that buy and sells. The reason I decided to be a dealer in meteorites was the chance to build a collection as a collector. So why would anyone want a collection of meteorites? To hold in your hand a piece of the solar system, a rock from space older than the earth itself, this is whats so intriguing about collecting meteorites. Tumbling through space from places unknown, these stones survived a violent passage through the atmosphere to crash land on earth. For many millions, even billions of years they have been floating in space in total darkness, at zero gravity conditions, and at extremely cold temperatures and now after all that, it has come to rest in your hand. (now thats cool !) Like most collectors of anything, if they get a chance to buy 10 at a big discount , so they can sell 9 of them at a profit to pay for 1 that will go into their collection they will do it. On an average I get 4 phone calls a month with someone telling me they have a meteorite. And the story goes like this, My grand father found it on his farm, it responds to a magnet. I read about meteorites on the internet it looks like a meteorite on your web site, its brown and I can see crystals in it. So, my first answer to this is, please send me a picture. The other type of call I get is something like this, I have a meteorite that belonged to my father who has died a few months ago and he collected all kinds of rocks. He was a rock hound and he had a meteorite in his collection, I have it for sale.My answer to this is, please send me a picture. So what happens when you get the picture and it does look like a meteorite? I have bought meteorites from all over the World like this, thats why I put up a meteorite web site in the spring of 1997, it was for the chance of finding a newly discovered meteorite. My web site was the fourth meteorite web site on the internet in 1997, sure I didn't know a lot about meteorites at the time, but I sure did want to mingle with those that did and that was 15 years ago. Ya, meteorites are cool! So send me your picture You may never know what surprise may be in store Sincerely, Tim Heitz __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] clean up
Hello list, I have an approx 350 gram Odessa iron that has rust all over it. If anyone is able to clean it up for me, please email me off list and let me know what it will cost. Pete Shugar __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Telescope experts
Hello list, Please give me your opinion of this ebay telescope: 140674266720 It is just for casual use, a look at the moon and Planets. I know it's not very expensive, Vivtar lists it for $179 so the Ebay price is very good. Thanks for the input. Pete Shugar __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Telescope experts
The Vivitar does not take standard eyepieces because of secondary corrective lenses, so you can't use anything but what it comes with. The focuser is just screw-in, screw-out adjustment, very crude. My guess is that it would disappoint you. Small telescopes are rarely worth even their small price. The best buy in a small scope in this price range ($50 + $10 Shipping) is from Orion. It can be found on Amazon at: http://www.amazon.com/FunScope-76mm-Tabletop-Reflector-Telescope/dp/B002JNW734/ref=pd_sim_sbs_p_2 or directly from Orion: http://www.telescope.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=9766id=cjdfutm_medium=affutm_campaign=commission%2Bjunctionutm_source=CJ Here's a page that reviews the best possible first scopes for a variety of budgets: http://www.rocketroberts.com/astro/firstscopes.htm Still, all of them are far better than what Galileo had! Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com To: The List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Telescope experts Hello list, Please give me your opinion of this ebay telescope: 140674266720 It is just for casual use, a look at the moon and Planets. I know it's not very expensive, Vivtar lists it for $179 so the Ebay price is very good. Thanks for the input. Pete Shugar __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Telescope experts
Nah, I would pass on that. Too much central obstruction. Focal length is too short for good planetary views. I'd recommend a good, quality small refractor or tabletop refractor instead, 60mm or bigger. Avoid all the toy scopes. Look for coated(multi-coated is better) achromatic AIR SPACED glass lenses. You can always add a barlow lens later to further correct any color aberrations. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Paleolagoas...Palaeolagoons...Paleolagunas -- rapidly expanding data for Holocene shallow air burst craters in Brazil: Pierson Barretto 2012.01.08
-- Forwarded message -- From: Pierson Barretto cosmop...@gmail.com Date: 2012/1/8 Subject: Paleolagoas...Palaeolagoons...Paleolagunas Hello for all Ola a todos For Release Nova publicação (2012) sobre a investigação cosmogênica de paleolagoas no Boletin Huygens da Agrupacion Astronomica de La Safor, Espanha. New publication (2012) on research of cosmogenic palaeolagoons in the Huygens Bulletin of the Astronomical Grouping of La Safor, Spain. http://issuu.com/astrosafor/docs/huygens-94?mode=a_p Mais informações sobre impactitos em nosso site: More information about impactites on our site: http://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/palaeometeorstream/impactites-tektites-meteorites O seu comentário é importante. Your comment is important. abs pierson __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Telescope experts
Maybe this? ebay item# 220928482360 He's got four of them and they are new. The eyepiece alone is worth $50 nifty carry case included too. __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TRY AGAIN Send me your Meteorite Picture
Hello List, Sorry for the double post, I'm having trouble with my post Being a dealer of meteorites means being able to buy and sell. That's the definition of dealer in the dictionary. It's a person that buy and sells. The reason I decided to be a dealer in meteorites was the chance to build a collection as a collector. All dealers have a meteorite collection, just ask. ... So why would anyone want a collection of meteorites? To hold in your hand a piece of the solar system, a rock from space older than the earth itself, this is whats so intriguing about collecting meteorites. Tumbling through space from places unknown, these stones survived a violent passage through the atmosphere to crash land on earth. For many millions, even billions of years they have been floating in space in total darkness, at zero gravity conditions, and at extremely cold temperatures and now after all that, it has come to rest in my hand. (now thats cool !) Like most collectors of anything, if they get a chance to buy 10 at a big discount , so they can sell 9 of them at a profit to pay for 1 that will go into their collection they will do it. On an average I get 4 phone calls a month with someone telling me they have a meteorite. And the story goes like this, My grand father found it on his farm, it responds to a magnet. I read about meteorites on the internet it looks like a meteorite on your web site, its brown and I can see crystals in it. So, my first answer to this is, please send me a picture. The other type of call I get is something like this, I have a meteorite that belonged to my father who has died a few months ago and he collected all kinds of rocks.He was a rock hound and he had a meteorite in his collection, I have it for sale. My answer to this is, please send me a picture. So what happens when you get the picture and it does look like a meteorite? I have bought meteorites from all over the World like this, thats why I put up a meteorite web site in the spring of 1997, it was for the chance of finding a newly discovered meteorite. My web site was the fourth meteorite web site on the internet in 1997, sure I didn't know a lot about meteorites at the time, but I sure did want to mingle with those that did and that was 15 years ago. Ya, meteorites are cool! So send me your picture You may never know what surprise may be in store Midwest Meteorites - http://www.meteorman.org Live the end now, life is short __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
