[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-10-31 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Admire

Contributed by: Arlene Schlazer

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Tektite

2013-10-31 Thread Jim Wooddell

Hi Phil,

Just a thought...did you do any tests to determine what this is? 
Hardness?  Specific Gravity?  The common consciences of the picture is 
quartz, so the hardness should be close to 7 mohs and the specific 
gravity about

2.65.

A streak plate has a hardness of about 7.  So if you took a coffee cup, 
turn it over to expose the unglazed ring that it sits on, and try to 
scratch the specimen, it should feel like it sliding across the surface, 
no scratch or very very little scratch.


If it's something other that quartz, you likely would get a good scratch.

Just saying!

Cheers!

Jim


On 10/29/2013 6:51 AM, Joshua Tree Earth  Space Museum wrote:
Someone brought this into the museum for an ID. It looks sort of like 
a tektite. It doesn't really look like any slag glass that I've seen. 
No find location was given. Any tektite experts have an opinion?


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27008_zps03ffc3d1.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27007_zps7cb05a26.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27006_zps750db031.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27005_zps5cded8cd.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27004_zps07aa10ea.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27002_zps10c0ab1c.jpg 

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/cyphor79/June2011/2013-10-27001_zpsa797a7da.jpg 




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[meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread karmaka
New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

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[meteorite-list] AD some meteorites for sale or trade, many main masses.....

2013-10-31 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Dear List Members 
I have some meteorites for sale (few are available for trade also)

- Tenham 299g, L6,oriented, historical fall form Australia (1879)
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Tenham2997gIndiv?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvmgKDn87K67QE

- Diogenite NWA 7464, 84g individual with glossy fussion crust. 
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/DiogeniteNWA746484g02?authkey=Gv1sRgCIv29r2Gzv_2oAE

- Ureilite NWA 6069 1.4kg Main Mass with huge polished surface. This is very 
interesting ureilite with low shock stage and many diamonds.
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Ureilite6069MainMass1427g?authkey=Gv1sRgCOuP9K_Sp7nR6QE

-Eucrite NWA 7854 Main Mass, 891g (very large polished surface)
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/LoveHED?authkey=Gv1sRgCNvZwdzp7oHD1gE

- CO3 - NWA 8095 Main Mass 814g (super fresh - W1)
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/NWA8095CO3MainMass?authkey=Gv1sRgCImKgvPcw6KC4gE#

- CK5 - NWA 7754 Main Mass 277g (super fresh - W1)
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/CK5NWA7754?authkey=Gv1sRgCInBrOq53PHieA#

-Taza - NWA 859, 1561g, amazing shape!
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Taza1561g?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ2xqvWkrs39swE

- Taza - NWA 859 847g, specimen still have original fusion crust, flow lines
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/Taza847g?authkey=Gv1sRgCL3I6Ke7_7rTaA

- NWA 2696 half piece 249g
https://picasaweb.google.com/10086119851742847/NWA2696HOW249g?authkey=Gv1sRgCMHtkbPts4Cwbg


Any question? Please fell free to contact with me at -  illae...@gmail.com


Best Regards
Tomasz Jakubowski
IMCA #2321
Managing Editor
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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Farmer
What a pity. Europe is no longer a good place for meteorites to fall. France 
and Norway can't seem to get their falls worked on for years.


Michael Farmer

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 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Hupe
Another case of governments trying to control every aspect of everybody's lives 
when they do not know squat!.

Freedom has never been for free and we are losing it on a daily bases. This 
seems to be a worldwide phenomenon. 


Pretty soon, you will not even be able to touch a meteorite and they will all 
be behind glass!

Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List,

This is stupid.  What is the harm in letting the stone be classified?
Slice off 20 grams and donate it to science.  It is the right thing to
do.

This is not a government issue as Adam said.  These are private
individuals hoarding the stone - which they are legally entitled to
do.  Just like the multi-billion dollar private corporations are
entitled to hide their hoards of cash in offshore tax havens.  The
government shouldn't be allowed to step in and force their hand - they
should volunteer to do the right thing.  Sadly, greed controls many
interests, private and government.

It's MINE MINE MINE!  Like a bunch of spoiled little kids.

Best regards,

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On 10/31/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
 What a pity. Europe is no longer a good place for meteorites to fall. France
 and Norway can't seem to get their falls worked on for years.


 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:02 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
 wrote:

 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fkultur%2Fkritiserer-roed-odegaard-1.11325245

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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Jim Wooddell



Gosh Mike!

You say this like it's something new!

;)

Have a great day!

Jim


On 10/31/2013 7:31 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:

Hi List,

This is stupid.  What is the harm in letting the stone be classified?
Slice off 20 grams and donate it to science.  It is the right thing to
do.

This is not a government issue as Adam said.  These are private
individuals hoarding the stone - which they are legally entitled to
do.  Just like the multi-billion dollar private corporations are
entitled to hide their hoards of cash in offshore tax havens.  The
government shouldn't be allowed to step in and force their hand - they
should volunteer to do the right thing.  Sadly, greed controls many
interests, private and government.

It's MINE MINE MINE!  Like a bunch of spoiled little kids.

Best regards,

MikeG




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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Hupe
As soon as the press or media becomes involved, it quickly becomes a government 
issue.   90% of the time, the media does more harm than good.  It seems if 
something might have a bit of value,  governments are quick to restrict access 
or try to control it.

No press is a good thing!  These people who attracted to cameras and a few 
moments in the lime light are ruining for the rest of us.


Adam





- Original Message -
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
Cc: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the 
Oslo meteorite

Hi List,

This is stupid.  What is the harm in letting the stone be classified?
Slice off 20 grams and donate it to science.  It is the right thing to
do.

This is not a government issue as Adam said.  These are private
individuals hoarding the stone - which they are legally entitled to
do.  Just like the multi-billion dollar private corporations are
entitled to hide their hoards of cash in offshore tax havens.  The
government shouldn't be allowed to step in and force their hand - they
should volunteer to do the right thing.  Sadly, greed controls many
interests, private and government.

It's MINE MINE MINE!  Like a bunch of spoiled little kids.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 10/31/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
 What a pity. Europe is no longer a good place for meteorites to fall. France
 and Norway can't seem to get their falls worked on for years.


 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:02 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
 wrote:

 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fkultur%2Fkritiserer-roed-odegaard-1.11325245

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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Hupe
As soon as the press or media becomes involved, it quickly becomes a government 
issue.   90% of the time, the media does more harm than good.  It seems if 
something might have a bit of value,  governments are quick to restrict access 
or try to control it.

No press is a good thing!  These people who attracted to cameras and a few 
moments in the lime light are ruining for the rest of us.


Adam





- Original Message -
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
Cc: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the 
Oslo meteorite

Hi List,

This is stupid.  What is the harm in letting the stone be classified?
Slice off 20 grams and donate it to science.  It is the right thing to
do.

This is not a government issue as Adam said.  These are private
individuals hoarding the stone - which they are legally entitled to
do.  Just like the multi-billion dollar private corporations are
entitled to hide their hoards of cash in offshore tax havens.  The
government shouldn't be allowed to step in and force their hand - they
should volunteer to do the right thing.  Sadly, greed controls many
interests, private and government.

It's MINE MINE MINE!  Like a bunch of spoiled little kids.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 10/31/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
 What a pity. Europe is no longer a good place for meteorites to fall. France
 and Norway can't seem to get their falls worked on for years.


 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:02 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
 wrote:

 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fkultur%2Fkritiserer-roed-odegaard-1.11325245

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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Carl Agee
Martin,

Thanks for posting! I think I was able to decipher the article's
translation. I am left with the impression that all the Norwegian
scientists are asking is that the Grefsen be classified?

I did check the MetBull and this is the result: No records found for
meteorites with names that contain Grefsen; No synonyms containing
Grefsen were found.

Seems incredibly short-sighted of the holders of the main mass not to
want it classified given that all that all they will give up is 20g!
Plus the value will be enhanced. Furthermore, this is also the type of
bad behavior that does get attention of government officials, and so
at some point they may indeed change the current finder is owner
rule to finder must give all to the Kingdom of Norway.

Or perhaps this is a Norwegian turf war? Perhaps an outsider could
convince the owners to do the right thing and get it classified. Has
anyone contacted them?

Carl Agee


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2013/10/31 karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de:
 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fkultur%2Fkritiserer-roed-odegaard-1.11325245

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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Farmer
the main problem is that Knutjurgen has always claimed to be chasing meteorites 
as a scientist and was able to convince the finder to sell to him to protect it 
from us evil dealers. Now look who is just after the money. I was attempting 
to acquire the mass, and if I had been successful, I assure it would be 
classified by now.
That being said, I also had a run-in with that woman from the museum, who told 
me that we must turn all Moss meteorites in to the museum, though not required 
by law:)
When I asked them if they were going to help us hunt, she said no, and left 
back to Oslo without spending one second traipsing through the woods like the 
rest of us did.
No clean hands in this argument. But it is a travesty that he is unwilling to 
donate some of the 5 kilos for classification and display at the museum. 


Michael Farmer

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On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:

 Martin,
 
 Thanks for posting! I think I was able to decipher the article's
 translation. I am left with the impression that all the Norwegian
 scientists are asking is that the Grefsen be classified?
 
 I did check the MetBull and this is the result: No records found for
 meteorites with names that contain Grefsen; No synonyms containing
 Grefsen were found.
 
 Seems incredibly short-sighted of the holders of the main mass not to
 want it classified given that all that all they will give up is 20g!
 Plus the value will be enhanced. Furthermore, this is also the type of
 bad behavior that does get attention of government officials, and so
 at some point they may indeed change the current finder is owner
 rule to finder must give all to the Kingdom of Norway.
 
 Or perhaps this is a Norwegian turf war? Perhaps an outsider could
 convince the owners to do the right thing and get it classified. Has
 anyone contacted them?
 
 Carl Agee
 
 
 *
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126
 
 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/
 
 
 
 2013/10/31 karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de:
 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite
 
 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrk.no%2Fkultur%2Fkritiserer-roed-odegaard-1.11325245
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

2013-10-31 Thread Adam Hupe
One problem is that the press rarely mentions collaboration between scientists, 
collectors and finders.   The owner of the main mass may not trust their 
government and feel the need to protect his/her assets.  I am sure a lot of 
U.S. finds are not being reported or shared for the same reason. Hunters are 
keenly aware that the 10 pound limit here is just a farce.  If the U.S. 
government determines their is cultural or scientific value, then the finder is 
sure to lose their find regardless of any weight limit.  Good luck to anyone 
who finds the first American lunar.   I am sure they will be very protective 
because government officials and politicians tell lies most of the time to the 
people they serve and are never held accountable for it.

Some will never get the message as I still see people openly selling meteorites 
found on dry lake beds here in Nevada although they are not to be used for 
commercial purposes.  89% of the land here is B.L.M. which covers virtually all 
of the dry lake beds.


These days, No good deed goes unpunished so expecting somebody to freely 
collaborate may soon be a thing of the past.


Adam



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To: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de
Cc: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the 
Oslo meteorite

Martin,

Thanks for posting! I think I was able to decipher the article's
translation. I am left with the impression that all the Norwegian
scientists are asking is that the Grefsen be classified?

I did check the MetBull and this is the result: No records found for
meteorites with names that contain Grefsen; No synonyms containing
Grefsen were found.

Seems incredibly short-sighted of the holders of the main mass not to
want it classified given that all that all they will give up is 20g!
Plus the value will be enhanced. Furthermore, this is also the type of
bad behavior that does get attention of government officials, and so
at some point they may indeed change the current finder is owner
rule to finder must give all to the Kingdom of Norway.

Or perhaps this is a Norwegian turf war? Perhaps an outsider could
convince the owners to do the right thing and get it classified. Has
anyone contacted them?

Carl Agee


*
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Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
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2013/10/31 karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de:
 New conflict concerning the Grefsen mass of the Oslo meteorite

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[meteorite-list] As - Halloween Sale - Rare October Meteorites, Rare Trinitite Thin-Section, Monroe (Halloween Meteorite) and more.

2013-10-31 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Listees and Collectors,

Happy Samain, Happy Halloween, Happy All Hallow's Eve!

To celebrate the spooky holiday, I am offering 30% OFF everything on
the website, including items already on sale - total savings on select
specimens is over 50%!  To get the discount, use coupon code spook
at checkout to get the discount.

First new offering is worth a look.  Please forgive my photo for it -
the photo is terrible and does not do it justice.  I am having camera
issues and until I can get a new or different camera, this is about
the best I can do with no macro-focus.  It is a Trinitite thin-section
made by ex-NASA thin section maker Dave Mann.

There are only a handful of these thin sections in existence due to
the difficulty in working with this material.  This TS is of the
highest quality and ready for study - double polished and uncovered.
The price reflects the rarity and this is the only one I have to
offer.  Using the Halloween discount will get you a screaming deal on
this piece.

Trinitite Thin Section -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/trinitite-thin-section-extremely-rare-highest-quality-ready-for-study

All trinitite specimens and displays -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/trinitite?pagesize=24


October Meteorites : (some of these are very rare and my stock is running low)

Monroe (fell on Halloween 1849) - I only have three tiny speck
micromounts of this meteorite remaining.  This is a hard one to get -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/monroe-1849-north-carolina-halloween-witnessed-fall-h4-micromount

Elenovka (October 15, 1971) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/elenovka-l5-chondrite-witnessed-fall-ukraine-1951-micromounts

Millbillillie (October 1960) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/millbillillie-witnessed-vestan-eucrite-meteorite-from-australia-micromount

Soko-Banja (October 13, 1877) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/soko-banja-rare-serbian-1877-historic-witnessed-fall-ll4-micromount

Bassikounou (October 16, 2006) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/bassikounou-witnessed-fall-h5-meteorite-mauritania-2006


All new specimens - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/brand-new?pagesize=48

If you have any questions or problems with checkout, feel free to
email me - cura...@galactic-stone.com

Best regards and be careful out there tonight - drive safe and look
out for the kids!

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[meteorite-list] NEW Arizona Meteorite FOR SALE

2013-10-31 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hello Meteorheads,

Here is a link to a new Arizona meteorite called Camp Creek.
http://www.mrmeteorite.com/campcreekmeteorite.htm

I have only 2 slices and the end cut left.

Don't be spooked, email me off list for scarey low prices on the
remaining two slices.




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[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: October 24-30, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE:  Seeking the Sun's Rays as Winter Approaches -
sols 3467-3472, Oct. 24, 2013-Oct. 30, 2013:

Opportunity is ascending the northern edge of 'Solander Point' at the
rim of 'Endeavour Crater.' The rover is maintaining favorable northerly
tilts for improved energy production as winter approaches.

On Sol 3467 (Oct. 24, 2013), Opportunity bumped 4.3 feet (1.3 meters)
towards the outcrop called 'Waratah.' The next sol had the rover use the
robotic arm to collect a Microscopic Imager (MI) mosaic of the surface
target, called 'Baobab,' and then place the Alpha Particle X-ray
Spectrometer (APXS) on the same for a multi-sol integration. On Sol 3471
(Oct. 29, 2013), Opportunity continued the ascent up Solander heading
toward another energy 'lily pad,' driving about 95 feet (29 meters)
nearly due south, and collecting a set of post-drive Panoramic Camera
(Pancam) and Navigation Camera (Navcam) panoramas. On the following sol,
the rover continued driving with a nearly 33 feet (10-meter) drive
toward another energy lily pad.

As of Sol 3472 (Oct. 30, 2013), the solar array energy production was
299 watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.510 and a solar
array dust factor of 0.488.

Total odometry is 23.93 miles (38.51 kilometers).
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[meteorite-list] Asteroid Initiative Idea Synthesis Workshop To Resume on Nov 20-22, 2013

2013-10-31 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.nasa.gov/asteroidworkshop/

Asteroid Initiative Idea Synthesis Workshop -- New Dates Selected

NASA has selected new dates to resume the Asteroid Initiative Idea Synthesis 
Workshop, which was postponed due to the recent government shutdown. During 
the Nov. 20-22 make-up days, NASA will continue to examine the many good 
ideas that were submitted in response to the Asteroid Initiative Request 
for Information in June.

As before, the workshop will be conducted at the Lunar and Planetary Institute 
in Houston. Virtual participation options will again be available, and 
those options will be posted on this page as the workshop nears.

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[meteorite-list] Did a Huge Impact Lead to the Cambrian Explosion?

2013-10-31 Thread Paul H.
Did a Huge Impact Lead to the Cambrian Explosion?
Astrobiology Magazine, October 14, 2013
http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/5742/did-a-huge-impact-lead-to-the-cambrian-explosion

Young, G. M, 2013, Evolution of Earth's climatic 
system: Evidence from ice ages, isotopes, and impacts
GSA Today. vol. 23, no. 10, pp. 4-10.
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/23/10/abstract/i1052-5173-23-10-4.htm

Text at:
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/23/10/article/i1052-5173-23-10-4.htm
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/23/10/article/i1052-5173-23-10-4.htm#toclink7

PDF file at:
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/23/10/pdf/i1052-5173-23-10-4.pdf

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Greenland Meteorite?

2013-10-31 Thread mineral
Has anybody else heard about this:A big meteor impact has probably occurred in 
Southern Greenland at 61 25N, 44 26W on Tuesday, December 9th app. 08.11UTC 
(05.11am local time). The position is on the ice cap app. 50 kilometers NE of 
Narsarsuaq Airport.The position has been determined on the basis of 
observations made by a Danish and a Norwegian trawler near the east coast of 
Greenland, and a Danish trawler at a position in the bay off Julianehaab. Based 
on fairly accurate direction findings and the fact, that the trawlers were 
situated on both sides of Southern Greenland it can be determined, that the 
meteorite fell on land.The relevant trawlers are:Halten Trawl, 
Norwegian at 62 05N, 41 10WRegina C, Danish at 60 55N, 51 35W   
 Timmarut, Danish at 60 13N, 46 43WObservations of the satelite 
lighttrack from Nuuk indicates that the meorite passed a bit south of Nuuk in 
southeasterly direction towards the mentioned impact site in Southern 
Greenland.Seismic disturbances have been observed on Svalbard and Finmarka 
(Norway). These tremors are observed at 08.21UTC and 08.23UTC and are assumed 
to relate to the impact or the passage of the meteorite through the atmosphere. 
The signals did not allow a seismic localization of the event. The observations 
are made by NORSAR (Norwegian Seismic Array), Kjeller, Norway. Fainter signals 
were observed in Finland and Germany. The seismic stations in Greenland (Sonder 
Stromfjord and Danmarkshavn) has no observations. Further seismic data will be 
collected from Iceland and Canada in order to confirm the visual 
localization.Observations from the satellites ERS1 and ERS2 are being planned. 
These satellites observe the surface of the Earth using radar.The flashes 
observed in conjunction with the meteorite were so bright as to turn night into 
daylight at a distance of 100 kilometers and can be compared to the light af a 
nuclear explosion in the atmosphere. However, we stress that there is no reason 
to belive other than natural causes.During the day, the position will be 
overflown by an ice reconnaissance plane, from the Ice Central in Narsarsuaq on 
its planned flight from Kap Farvel to Nuuk.The event can in size probably be 
compared to the Kap York meteorite, that in prehistoric time fell in Melville 
Bay, Sassivik south of Thule. Findings from the meteorite consist of a number 
of iron meteorites totalling 50 tons. One of these ironfragments can be seen in 
Copenhagen outside the Geological Museum.Collecting and studying material from 
this meteorite has great scientific value. It is fortunate that the meteorite 
fell on land, but a search on the ice cap is difficult and in winter impeded by 
bad weather and darkness. Since December 9th 30-100cm of snow has fallen in the 
area and before summer smaller fragments will be covered by 3 meters of snow. 
According to Danish law, findings of meteorite material must be turned over to 
the authorities, in this case they will be the property of the Greenland Home 
Rule.These investigations are coordinated by Geophysical Dept. at the Niels 
Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen in cooperation with:Tycho Brahe 
Planetarium, Copenhagen.Copenhagen Astronomical SocietyNational Survey and 
Cadastre, DenmarkNORSAR, Kjeller, NorwayDanish Center for Remote Sensing, 
Technical University of Denmark 
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[meteorite-list] China's Next Moon Mission Is Carrying A Rover (Chang'e 3)

2013-10-31 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.space.com/23416-china-moon-mission-bay-of-rainbows.html 

China's Next Moon Mission Targets 'Bay of Rainbows'
by Leonard David
space.com
October 31, 2013

China is making major headway in its mission to land a rover on the moon 
- a big step forward in the nation's ambitious lunar exploration plans.

At China's Xichang Satellite Launch Center, the moon-bound Chang'e 3 spacecraft 
is undergoing its final tests ahead of a planned launch in early December. 
Meanwhile, a Long March 3B carrier rocket, reportedly modified with new 
technologies and improved reliability, is set to reach the launch center 
via train from Beijing on Friday (Nov. 1).

The touchdown target for the Chang'e 3 mission - a lander and a lunar 
rover - is thought to be Sinus Iridum, known as the Bay of Rainbows, a 
plain of basaltic lava on the moon, according to reports by China media 
outlets.  An earlier Chinese lunar orbiter, Chang'e 2, eyed the moon-landing 
zone in 2010, showing the site's flat topography and other interesting 
features.

As for the rover's name, that is to be decided next month, based on nearly 
190,000 entries on two China-based websites. According to the Beijing 
Times, Yutu (jade hare in Chinese) leads the list, while Tansuo 
(explore) and Lanyue (catch moon), are the second and third choices, 
respectively.

Launch day

China space watcher Bob Christy of the informative website Zarya.info 
told SPACE.com that his best estimate for a China lunar launch is Dec. 
1. It could be a day or so later, but is unlikely to be earlier, he 
said.

Christy has taken a look at the launch windows.

For Dec. 1, the optimum launch time is around 14:00 to 15:00 UTC (9:00 
a.m. to 10:00 a.m. EST), he said. It allows Chang'e to approach the 
moon from the north to give a better view of the transfer orbit from China 
than would the alternative - around 22:00 UTC (5:00 p.m. EST) for an approach 
from the south.

Sunrise over Sinus Iridum commences Dec. 14, Christy added, so landing 
will probably be a day or so later to ensure enough light.

I have a Chinese document that says Chang'e will spend about 10 days 
in orbit before landing. Transit time is likely to be 4.6 days - so it 
points to Dec. 1 for launch, he said.

As for why China chose Sinus Iridum for the landing site, David Kring, 
senior staff scientist at the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, 
has some ideas.

In an informal briefing document provided to SPACE.com, Kring showed the 
scientific advantages of selecting that region. But he also said that 
other factors may also have affected the landing site choice.

For example, China might be factoring in thoughts of returning lunar samples 
back to China in the future. Relatively little oomph is needed to rocket 
samples back to Earth from the Sinus Iridum region, Kring told SPACE.com

Sinus Iridum is an impact crater, measuring roughly 146 miles (235 kilometers) 
across, that was later flooded by basaltic lavas. It is located along 
the northwestern edge of the Imbrium basin.

In 1970, the then-Soviet Union's Luna 17 spacecraft landed nearby, dispatching 
the Lunokhod 1 moon rover, Kring said.

Rover tools

According to Kring's informal report, which draws from various Chinese 
sources, the solar-powered Chang'e 3 rover carries nearly 45 lbs. (20 
kilograms) of payload and has a 6-mile (10 km) range after departing the 
lander. 

The six-wheeled robot sports navigation and panoramic cameras. The lower 
front portion of the rover carries hazard-avoidance cameras. The rover 
will hibernate at night and might survive three lunar nights (three Earth 
months).

The rover totes a robotic arm with an Alpha-Proton X-ray Spectrometer, 
or APXS.

That APXS tool could, among other duties, study recent impact crater material 
that's been tossed out and about, revealing the material below the moon's 
surface; look at ejected debris in crater rays and/or in secondary craters; 
and help researchers develop a better model for impact cratering processes, 
Kring said.

The Chinese rover also appears to be outfitted with a ground-penetrating 
radar instrument. If so, that device can test models for regolith thickness, 
including rock abundances inferred from orbiting radar experiments, like 
the Diviner lunar radiometer experiment on NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance 
Orbiter.

Also, China's rover could demonstrate the utility of ground-penetrating 
radar to advance future exploration of the moon, Kring said.

In Kring's review, the Sinus Iridum mare basalt has modest titanium-ore 
content, except near its southeastern margin, where it has very high 
titanium-ore 
content.

Wait-and-see observations

One interesting side story involves NASA's Lunar Atmosphere and Dust 
Environment 
Explorer (LADEE), which recently entered orbit around the moon.

Whether the LADEE spacecraft could detect certain activities of China's 
Chang'e 3 mission is worth contemplating, according to SPACE.com contacts 
familiar with LADEE operations.


[meteorite-list] ASU Earth and Space Exploration Day - This Saturday!

2013-10-31 Thread Ruben Garcia
As if you needed an excuse to see and touch some of the finest
meteorites in the world. Stop by and say hi, we'll be talking
meteorites from 9:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.

Earth and Space Exploration Day
Saturday, November 2, 2013
9:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m.
ISTB 4 (Interdisciplinary Science and Technology Building 4)


• Bring your rock specimens for identification by Dr. Rock
• Bring your water specimens for analysis by Dr. Water
• Geology Field trips to A Mountain (Tempe Butte)
• Earthscope: Learn about earthquakes  how geophysicists study the
Earth's interior
- Bring your own prospective meteorite for analysis by “Dr. Meteorite”
• Touch meteorite specimens from the ASU Center for Meteorite Studies collection
• Mineral and fossil sale by the ASU GeoClub
• Talk with ASU Geologists and Astronomers
• Explore the universe in the ASU Marston Exploration 3-D Theater
• See the NEW Interactive Displays in The Gallery of Scientific Exploration!!
• Planetary Science Displays and activities
• View a real Moon Rock at the LROC facility!
• For more information visit: sese.asu.edu/earth-and-space-exploration-day
• Explore rockets, robots and more with the ASU/NASA Space Grant Program
• Learn about the Moon, Mars, Mercury and more
• Attend special lectures on planetary science and volcanism
The School of Earth  Space Exploration is an academic unit of the
College of Liberal Arts  Sciences


Rock On!

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[meteorite-list] Toxic Ocean Conditions During Cretaceous Extinction - Oceanic Anoxic Event

2013-10-31 Thread Paul H.
Toxic Ocean Conditions During Major Extinction 93.9 
Million Years Ago Quantified: Doesn't Take Much 
Sulfide to Impact Ocean Life, Science Daily, Oct. 28, 2013
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131028163011.htm

Researchers Quantify Toxic Ocean Conditions During 
Major Extinction 93.9 Million Years Ago, University
of California, Oct. 28, 2013, http://ucrtoday.ucr.edu/10927

Owens, J. A., B. C. Gill, H. C. Jenkyns, S. M. Bates,
S. Severmann, M. M. M. Kuypers, R. G. Woodfine, and
T. W. Lyons. 2013, Sulfur isotopes track the global 
extent and dynamics of euxinia during Cretaceous 
Oceanic Anoxic Event 2. Proceedings of the National
Academy of Sciences of the United States. Published 
online before print October 29, 2013, PNAS October 29, 
2013, doi: 10.1073/pnas.1305304110 
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/10/28/1305304110

Yours,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Off Topic Meteorite Zombies

2013-10-31 Thread wahlperry

Hi List,

Last year I ran into a meteorite zombie in Novato playing a guitar. 
This year I spotted some zombies in Vegas. I was able to get a few 
pictures before they moved on.


Happy Halloween!

Sonny

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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Arizona Meteorite FOR SALE

2013-10-31 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thank you to everyone that emailed. Everything (end cut and slices)
are all gone. Sorry if you missed out.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Ruben Garcia
rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Meteorheads,

 Here is a link to a new Arizona meteorite called Camp Creek.
 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/campcreekmeteorite.htm

 I have only 2 slices and the end cut left.

 Don't be spooked, email me off list for scarey low prices on the
 remaining two slices.




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 Rock On!

 Ruben Garcia
 http://www.MrMeteorite.com



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