Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Ebay auctions Ending Soon - North American Meteorites
Hello All, There has been some confusion generated - the result of poor terminology and semantics. Hopefully, this image may help clear-up some of that misunderstanding: http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/sbw/sbw-jason-comparison.jpg Regards, Bob V. bolide*chaser - To Meteoritecentral List Yesterday at 12:50 PM For those collectors with an interest in North American meteorites, I would like to bring your attention to some 3-day eBay offerings (ending soon): http://www.ebay.com/sch/bolide*chaser/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_ipg=_from= Hope you enjoy the images, Bob V. bolide*chaser __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] High-precision Timeline for End-Permian Extinction
End-Permian Extinction Was Nearly Instantaneous, According To MIT Researchers, RedOrbit, Feb. 11, 2014 http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1113068160/mass-extinction-happened-faster-than-previously-believed-021114/ It Took 60,000 Years to Kill Nearly Everything on Earth by Becky Oskin, Live Science, Feb. 10, 2014 http://www.livescience.com/43245-permian-mass-extinction-duration.html Giant mass extinction may have been quicker than previously thought, Science News, Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2014 http://esciencenews.com/articles/2014/02/11/giant.mass.extinction.may.have.been.quicker.previously.thought An extinction in the blink of an eye. MIT researchers find that the end-Permian extinction happened in 60,000 years — much faster than earlier estimates. Jennifer Chu, MIT News Office, February 10, 2014 http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/an-extinction-in-the-blink-of-an-eye-0210.html The paper is: Burgess, S. D., S. Bowring, and S.-Z. Shen, 2014, High-precision timeline for Earth’s most severe extinction PNAS 2014 ; published ahead of print February 10, 2014, doi:10.1073/pnas.1317692111 http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/02/04/1317692111.abstract Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever, Seen (Siberia, Russsia)
meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com schreef op 11-2-2014 13:33: Message: 13 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:53:32 -0500 From: Paul H.inselb...@cox.net A really strange landform has made the news in Russia and now has appeared in the Mail Online. Articles with pictures and rather weird speculation about meteorites and all sorts of other processes that might have created it. Like Matt, I would think of a Pingo-like phenomena, i.e. the result of formation and then melting of an ice lens. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek e-mail: ma...@langbroek.org http://www.marcolangbroek.nl - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as Mars dust
Hi All, The ebay seller (sorens-stuff) revised their listing 2/10. Their solution is to remove the incriminating photo of the steelhorse1984 Mars display from their listing and to keep on selling without indicating the source of their material so as to cover up the issue. I wrote them again asking if this was the extent of their solution. I suspect they would deny still using the fake material if inquiries were made by ebay. Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com -- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:28:19 -0700 From: i...@moonmarsrocks.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as Mars dust To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 20140208222819.b86ea499b59be1b7298b47d2f1127a77.d6ca2a8877@email13.secureserver.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello All, I received a fairly quick response from the seller tonight : Hi, thank you for the information! We will look into it asap and take the appropriate measures! Thank you! Words are nice, actions are better! I will keep an eye on the listing, it is still active at the moment. If need be I will put a call into ebay. Mike is right, their list of items for sale is a virtual land mine of questionably documented collectibles. Maybe they are just na?ve, but buying something fake on ebay that claims it is real and then reselling bits and pieces of it without proper verification does not make it any more real. It is probably just fortuitous that their current Moon dust offering is derived from a legitimate meteorite kit. Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] steelhorse1994 fake rocks reappear as Mars dust From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Sat, February 08, 2014 3:49 pm To: i...@moonmarsrocks.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Thanks for the heads-up Daniel! :) This same seller is selling a wide variety of odd and rare artifacts. This makes me question the authenticity of everything he offers. Pieces of the Hindenberg? Metal from Apollo 11. Etc. If he's this careless with his meteorite sources, then I wouldn't trust any of it. Best regards, MikeG On 2/8/14, i...@moonmarsrocks.com i...@moonmarsrocks.com wrote: Hello all, We have a listing on ebay selling Mars dust specks that are made from pieces of the fake rocks out of the old displays of steelhorse1994: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260853112578#ht_1544wt_853 The second photo in the listing shows the unmistakable steelhorse1994 display. I wrote the guy and informed him of the problem and suggested he stop selling them and recall the ones he has sold. Apparently this seller buys displays from various sources and breaks the rocks up into microscopic tiny dust pieces(dust is right, you can barely see them) and then resells them. He also has a current listing for Moon dust specks but those are derived from a legitimate source. I don't know if he has previously sold Moon specks that were from fake displays as well. Steelhorse1994 is like a bad coin that keeps popping up. Best regards, Daniel Daniel Noyes Genuine Moon Mars Meteorite Rocks i...@moonmarsrocks.com www.moonmarsrocks.com __ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
I went to Portugal after the fall, got nearly 10 kg, 99% of what was ever sold, and sold nearly all at $10 gram. Anyone selling at $1 gram is either losing their shirt (easy on eBay) or pulling a scam. You decide which. Adam, stick with alien crap, you are clearly out of the meteorite loop these days. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
I have 2 small part slices of Ourique: $10 - $12 a gram. One has a bit of crust. Do you want them back Michael? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:58 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
A piece of the alien crap realized the highest price at the Blood auction beating out every meteorite offering. It would have gone higher but most of the people into UFOology were attending a convention in Phoenix Arizona at the same time the auction was going. A lot of people were pretty subdued at the auction until the alien crap was put up for bid. Then the room was full of laughter and became animated.It added a lot to making the social auction fun. As far as meteorites go, I have a multimillion dollar inventory that I am sitting on until the economy gets better or the very limited market thickens. Until them, I will offer a limited amount of meteorites and diversify into much hotter markets like artifacts. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I went to Portugal after the fall, got nearly 10 kg, 99% of what was ever sold, and sold nearly all at $10 gram. Anyone selling at $1 gram is either losing their shirt (easy on eBay) or pulling a scam. You decide which. Adam, stick with alien crap, you are clearly out of the meteorite loop these days. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fragment of Chelyabinsk Meteor To Go on Display in Vienna
http://austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2014-02-11/50457/Largest_surviving_fragment_of_Chelyabinsk_meteor_to_go_on_display_in_Vienna Largest surviving fragment of Chelyabinsk meteor to go on display in Vienna Austrian Times February 11, 2014 The spectacular meteorite which blew up over the earth after entering the atmosphere at an incredible 60 times the speed of sound before exploding in a ball of light brighter than the sun is to be put on display at Vienna's National History Museum this month. Only small parts of the meteorite that exploded 20 miles above the ground in Chelyabinsk, in Russia were left and the largest - a 387g chunk - has been snapped up by the Austrian museum in an international bidding war. It will now go on display in Vienna from 15th February this year. The meteorite caused extensive damage and injured around 1,500 people when it exploded with the force of 500 kilotons of TNT, which was 20-30 times more energy than was released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima. Treasure hunters immediately descended on the region to look for fragments and the Vienna National History Museum was able to acquire the chunk now going on display to add to its meteorite collection. The object was undetected before its atmospheric entry and its explosion created panic among local residents. About 1,500 people were injured seriously enough to seek medical treatment. All of the injuries were due to indirect effects rather than the meteor itself, mainly from broken glass from windows that were blown in when the shock wave arrived, minutes after the explosive flash. In total, some 7,200 buildings in six cities across the region were damaged by the explosion's shock wave. With an estimated initial mass of about 12,000 to 13,000 metric tonnes and about 20 metres in size, it is the largest known natural object to have entered Earth's atmosphere since the 1908 Tunguska event that destroyed a wide, remote, forested area of Siberia. The Chelyabinsk meteor is also the only meteor confirmed to have resulted in a large number of injuries. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fragment of Chelyabinsk Meteor To Go on Display in Vienna
Are you kidding me? Since when is 387g the largest surviving chunk? International bidding war? On eBay maybe. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fragment of Chelyabinsk Meteor To Go on Display in Vienna http://austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2014-02-11/50457/Largest_surviving_fragment_of_Chelyabinsk_meteor_to_go_on_display_in_Vienna Largest surviving fragment of Chelyabinsk meteor to go on display in Vienna Austrian Times February 11, 2014 The spectacular meteorite which blew up over the earth after entering the atmosphere at an incredible 60 times the speed of sound before exploding in a ball of light brighter than the sun is to be put on display at Vienna's National History Museum this month. Only small parts of the meteorite that exploded 20 miles above the ground in Chelyabinsk, in Russia were left and the largest - a 387g chunk - has been snapped up by the Austrian museum in an international bidding war. It will now go on display in Vienna from 15th February this year. The meteorite caused extensive damage and injured around 1,500 people when it exploded with the force of 500 kilotons of TNT, which was 20-30 times more energy than was released from the atomic bomb detonated at Hiroshima. Treasure hunters immediately descended on the region to look for fragments and the Vienna National History Museum was able to acquire the chunk now going on display to add to its meteorite collection. The object was undetected before its atmospheric entry and its explosion created panic among local residents. About 1,500 people were injured seriously enough to seek medical treatment. All of the injuries were due to indirect effects rather than the meteor itself, mainly from broken glass from windows that were blown in when the shock wave arrived, minutes after the explosive flash. In total, some 7,200 buildings in six cities across the region were damaged by the explosion's shock wave. With an estimated initial mass of about 12,000 to 13,000 metric tonnes and about 20 metres in size, it is the largest known natural object to have entered Earth's atmosphere since the 1908 Tunguska event that destroyed a wide, remote, forested area of Siberia. The Chelyabinsk meteor is also the only meteor confirmed to have resulted in a large number of injuries. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 100 Days of India's Mars Orbiter Spacecraft
http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/scripts/pressreleasein.aspx?Feb11_2014 100 Days Of Mars Orbiter Spacecraft ISRO Press Release February 11, 2014 Mars Orbiter Spacecraft, India's first interplanetary probe, was launched by PSLV-C25 at 1438 hours on November 5, 2013 from Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Sriharikota. In its voyage towards Mars, the mission successfully completes 100 days in space tomorrow (February 12, 2014). Subsequent to six orbit raising manoeuvres around the Earth following the launch, the Trans Mars Injection (TMI) Manoeuvre on December 01, 2013 gave necessary thrust to the spacecraft to escape from Earth and to initiate the journey towards Mars, in a helio-centric Orbit. This journey, of course, is long wherein the spacecraft has to travel 680 million km out of which a travel of 190 million km is completed so far. The First Trajectory Correction Manoeuvre (TCM) was conducted on December 11, 2013. The trajectory of the spacecraft, till today, is as expected. Three more TCM operations are planned around April 2014, August 2014 and September 2014. The spacecraft health is normal. The spacecraft is continuously monitored by the ground station of ISRO Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network (ISTRAC), located at Byalalu, near Bangalore. Except for a 40 minute break in the Telemetry data received from the spacecraft to the ground station, data has been continuously available for all the 100 days. The propulsion system of the spacecraft is configured for TCMs and the Mars Orbit Insertion (MOI) Operation. On February 6, 2014, all the five payloads on Mars Orbiter spacecraft were switched 'ON' to check their health. The health parameters of all the payloads are normal. Presently, the spacecraft is at a radio distance of 16 million km causing a one way communication delay of approximately 55 seconds. After travelling the remaining distance of about 490 million km over the next 210 days, the spacecraft would be inserted into the Martian Orbit on September 24, 2014. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend. For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece. That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market. The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that. It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even. I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless. I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get. If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market. Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible chelyabinsk scam?
Has anyone seen this Cheliabinsk meteorite around before?...I believe it is a scam...any thoughts anyone. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151226609728?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible chelyabinsk scam?
Hello Graham, I purchased that stone several months ago, corresponded briefly with the seller, sent the money, and never heard back. Paypal refunded the full amount ~40-45 days later, after I filed a case. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Graham Ensor graham.en...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen this Cheliabinsk meteorite around before?...I believe it is a scam...any thoughts anyone. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151226609728?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
Hello All, In all fairness, that Ourique does look ~ok. H-chondrites with similar regolith textures are around, but not common, and those pieces look fresh enough. The Chaves does look a bit funny, but it's also very small. If the seller says the specimen came from Corey, I'd double-check with Corey. If you check the Meteoritical Bulletin page's photos, you'll see at least one piece that was sold by Jorge Gonçalves, and which appears to be an L5 chondrite. I'd be worried, but Corey should know what he sold. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend. For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece. That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market. The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that. It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even. I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless. I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get. If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market. Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud. Please identify the scammer for us all. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes. Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available. In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on. Adam - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen (Siberia, Russsia)
If this were caused by a high shock event like a meteor strike, then there should be evidence in the form of shatter cones, shocked quartz crystals etc. In addition, there should be Iridium enrichment. Best Regards, Pat To: veom...@gmail.com; inselb...@cox.net From: impact...@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:17:13 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen (Siberia, Russsia) A partially collapsed salt dome Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com To: Paul H. inselb...@cox.net Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:48 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen (Siberia, Russsia) Very interesting! I'm suggesting Phreatic eruption (even though they say there is not volanism, but who knows. What's odd is it looks like the site might still be somewhat active, looks really fresh. -Yinan On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Paul H. inselb...@cox.net wrote: A really strange landform has made the news in Russia and now has appeared in the Mail Online. Articles with pictures and rather weird speculation about meteorites and all sorts of other processes that might have created it. What (or who) created Siberia's 'Eagle's Nest'? A meteorite, a nuke or gulag inmates? Scientists baffled by Sarah Griffids, Mail Online, Feb. 7, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2553841/Siberian-eagles-nest-continues-baffle-scientists-Theories-250-year-old-mound-formed-range-meteorite-strike-nuclear-blast.html Huge Eagle Nest in woods, English Russia,May 27, 2013 http://englishrussia.com/2013/05/27/huge-eagle-nest-in-the-woods/ What created this mysterious Siberian crater? by Kate Baklitskaya, The Siberian Times, October 14, 2012 http://www.sott.net/article/264671-What-created-this-mysterious-Siberian-crater This is certainly one of the strangest craterwrongs that I have ever seen. Some of the various theories that have been proposed for its origins are mentioned in: Patomsky crater - the nest of fire Eagle. Unknown Russia http://runknown.com/patomsky-crater-the-nest-of-fire-eagle I would be interested in what the people on this list think about what might have created this pile of rock? Does anyone know what is being said about it among Russian geologists and geomorphologists? Whatever, it is, it is quite young. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Crap
Hi Adam all, You are right that the UFO items were a source of great mirth and Most brought surprisingly high bids - one very high, and you are only partly mistaken. The Alien Crap one of the lots brought 4 digit bids, but there was one lunar that sold for $12,000 - 5 digits, so, did not top the highest price - but was quite impressive. I find it interesting that some of the loudest complainers about Various aspects of the auction were not at the auction and missed out On some Very good pieces. Best regards, Michael On 2/11/14 9:21 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: A piece of the alien crap realized the highest price at the Blood auction beating out every meteorite offering. It would have gone higher but most of the people into UFOology were attending a convention in Phoenix Arizona at the same time the auction was going. A lot of people were pretty subdued at the auction until the alien crap was put up for bid. Then the room was full of laughter and became animated.It added a lot to making the social auction fun. As far as meteorites go, I have a multimillion dollar inventory that I am sitting on until the economy gets better or the very limited market thickens. Until them, I will offer a limited amount of meteorites and diversify into much hotter markets like artifacts. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com Cc: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I went to Portugal after the fall, got nearly 10 kg, 99% of what was ever sold, and sold nearly all at $10 gram. Anyone selling at $1 gram is either losing their shirt (easy on eBay) or pulling a scam. You decide which. Adam, stick with alien crap, you are clearly out of the meteorite loop these days. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm 2010 $22.75/gm Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay. From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Met-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal? I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name nrscc and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ... Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud. http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html Mendy Ouzillou __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] seeking to commission jeweler for small lunar pendant
Dear list, One of my coworkers is a volunteer for the local Make-A-Wish chapter and has recently arranged for a sick little girl and her family to get a behind-the-scenes tour of our workplace (the Adler Planetarium). Even if we can't literally fulfill her wishes (meeting Katy Perry, and going to the Moon), it struck me that I could genuinely give a little bit of the Moon to her. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could refer me to a jeweler who could mount a small lunar meteorite (which I would supply from my personal collection) in a pendant. I'm not asking for a donation; I'm absolutely willing to pay a fair commission out of my own pocket. I figured I'd ask the list since I know some talented jewelers are members, and I'd prefer to work with someone who has experience working with small, relatively fragile meteorites. I'm afraid the timeline is very tight; we're meeting the girl and her family on March 9. I just found out about the visit a couple days ago. Thanks very much in advance, and please feel free to contact me off list. Very best regards, -- Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Tucson auction
Does anybody else have some cool auction info to share, or online pics? I was planning to go, but unfortunately I had to take care of sick loved ones... There were a few items that I wanted to bid on. Hope everyone has a good rest of the show, Mark -- From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Hi Adam all, You are right that the UFO items were a source of great mirth and Most brought surprisingly high bids - one very high, and you are only partly mistaken. The Alien Crap one of the lots brought 4 digit bids, but there was one lunar that sold for $12,000 - 5 digits, so, did not top the highest price - but was quite impressive. I find it interesting that some of the loudest complainers about Various aspects of the auction were not at the auction and missed out On some Very good pieces. Best regards, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Curiosity Rover Drives On After Crossing Martian Dune
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-045 NASA's Curiosity Drives On After Crossing Martian Dune Jet Propulsion Laboratory February 11, 2014 [Movie] Movie of Curiosity's View Backwards While Crossing Dune The series of nine images making up this animation were taken by the rear Hazard-Avoidance Camera (rear Hazcam) on NASA's Curiosity Mars rover as the rover drove over a dune spanning Dingo Gap on Mars. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech NASA's Curiosity Mars rover is continuing its traverse toward enticing science destinations after climbing over a dune spanning a gap in a ridge. The rover covered 135 feet (41.1 meters) on Feb. 9, in its first drive since the 23-foot (7-meter) crossing of the dune on Feb. 6. That put Curiosity's total odometry since its August 2012 landing at 3.09 miles (4.97 kilometers). An animated sequence of images from the low-slung Hazard-Avoidance Camera on the rear of the vehicle documents the up-then-down crossing of the dune. NASA's Mars Science Laboratory Project is using Curiosity to assess ancient habitable environments and major changes in Martian environmental conditions. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, built the rover and manages the project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. For more information about Curiosity, visit http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/msl , http://www.nasa.gov/msl and http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/. You can follow the mission on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/marscuriosity and on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/marscuriosity. Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2014-045 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] seeking to commission jeweler for small lunarpendant
Mark, exceptional and wonderful. Although I cannot contribute, please place me heart in it! - Original Message - From: Mark Hammergren mhammerg...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] seeking to commission jeweler for small lunarpendant Dear list, One of my coworkers is a volunteer for the local Make-A-Wish chapter and has recently arranged for a sick little girl and her family to get a behind-the-scenes tour of our workplace (the Adler Planetarium). Even if we can't literally fulfill her wishes (meeting Katy Perry, and going to the Moon), it struck me that I could genuinely give a little bit of the Moon to her. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could refer me to a jeweler who could mount a small lunar meteorite (which I would supply from my personal collection) in a pendant. I'm not asking for a donation; I'm absolutely willing to pay a fair commission out of my own pocket. I figured I'd ask the list since I know some talented jewelers are members, and I'd prefer to work with someone who has experience working with small, relatively fragile meteorites. I'm afraid the timeline is very tight; we're meeting the girl and her family on March 9. I just found out about the visit a couple days ago. Thanks very much in advance, and please feel free to contact me off list. Very best regards, -- Mark __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen (Siberia, Russia)
Hi, Searching the Internet, I found that this landform has a number of names by which it is known. They include the “Eagle Nest,” “Patomsky Crater,” and “Patom Cone.” I like “Patom Cone” because it is nongeneric as to its origin. I found one paper about the Patom Cone that argues it to be a cryovolcano. This paper is: Alekseyev V.R., 2012. Cryovolcanism and the mystery of the Patom cone. Geodynamics Tectonophysics. vol. 3, no. 3, pp. 289–307. doi:10.5800/GT-2012-3-3-0075. PDF file at http://popovgeo.professorjournal.ru/c/document_library/get_file?p_l_id=22997folderId=69343name=DLFE-36927.pdf and http://gt.crust.irk.ru/images/upload/tblarticle83/magazin83.pdf Abstract at http://gt.crust.irk.ru/article_83.html and http://gt.crust.irk.ru/magazin2012_3.en.html Unfortunately the main text is it Russian and My wife is to busy at work to translate it for me this week. As a result, I do not know the specifics of the arguments that this paper makes. An extended abstract about this landform is: Ermolin, E., O. Ingerov, and А. Saviсhev, 2012, Results of AMT survey of Patom crater area. Extended Abstract, 21st EM Induction Workshop Darwin, Australia, July 25-31, 2012. http://www.21emiw.com/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=117868 Additional web pages are: Fifth Expedition to the Patom Crater Gives Striking Results, Lake Baikal Fund, July 27, 2011 http://baikalfund.ru/eng/news/article.wbp?article_id=480b33b9-7ac6-4e36-b390-7b6ddf10f804 Imaggeo on Mondays: Pitter-patter of little paws in Patomsky crater. by Dmitry Demezhko, Geolog, European Geosciences Union, February 10, 2014. http://geolog.egu.eu/2014/02/10/imaggeo-on-mondays-pitter-patter-of-little-paws-in-patomsky-crater/ There is even a Wikipedia page about it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patomskiy_crater For the people, who have Google Earth the location of this landform is 59.28449°N 116.58954° (59.28449°N 116.58954°E) Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] answer to questions
Dear List Over the course of the days I was at the Tucson gem show this last week I received many questions about my involvement in the production of Michael Blood's recently released book on oriented meteorites. Michael has graciously given me an acknowledgment in the book and it is true that over two years ago I did layout and design for a book on the same topic for him. My work from then would bare little resemblance to the book that Michael has actually released. If my work served to provide any creative spark for his later design and content I am gratified to have offered that to his creative process. But, to be honest there is none of my input in the actual final version he has released. I hope this answers most remaining questions. Thanks, Jim Tobin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: The Earth's Memory Contributed by: MPOD http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen(Siberia, Russsia)
List, Bingo, a pingo! Of course, none of the pingoes I can find pictures of have the exact peculiar shape of the Patomskiy crater. But they do have similar but varied shapes, of which this could easily be one more variation. No evidence of any kind of meteoritic impact. This is a formation produced by slow pushing, not instantaneous impact. All the rocks in evidence in the photos are broken by cold physical forces. No evidence of heat; it's not vulcanism; it's not impact. That leaves the pingo-theory. From the raw look of the feature, I would say it was young compared to other pingoes. A few hours ago, I'd never heard of a pingo, and now they seem to be everywhere. At least, everywhere on the internet. There are pingoes on the seafloor: http://www.mbari.org/news/news_releases/2007/paull-plfs.html More pingoes here: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2014/01/the-pingos-of-tuktoyaktuk.html And here: http://www.arctic.uoguelph.ca/cpe/environments/land/features/freeze-thaw/pin goes.htm And here: http://www.pwnhc.ca/inuvialuit/placenames/ibyukwhat.html Everybody likes to take pingo pictures: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~kpetaine/visuals/album/NLand/Pingo/ http://www.geo.uu.nl/fg/berendsen/pictures/photography/alaska/Pingo.jpg http://toheroa-jim.blogspot.com/2010/03/from-asphalt-to-permafrost-blisters. html http://fineartamerica.com/featured/collapsed-pingo-science-source.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyojones/galleries/72157623260224291 Steps in the cycle: http://www.fws.gov/alaska/nwr/arctic/permcycl.htm World's largest pingo? http://www.bubblews.com/news/1173173-what-is-the-world039s-largest-pingo As for the unique cone-in-a-crater shape, that could be explained by the growth of a first large pingo crater-mound with a collapsed crest (of which there are many examples), followed by a period of quiescence. Then, the pingo pump mechanism started up again on a smaller scale and pushed up the central mound inside the larger pingo, with the result we see today. In other words, a cyclical pingo. It could be driven by climatic cycles (on the century-length scale). With an age of about 500 years, there's been time for a few on-off cycles. Sterling K. Webb -- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:54 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] One of the Strangest Landforms That I Ever Seen(Siberia, Russsia) A really strange landform has made the news in Russia and now has appeared in the Mail Online. Articles with pictures and rather weird speculation about meteorites and all sorts of other processes that might have created it. What (or who) created Siberia's 'Eagle's Nest'? A meteorite, a nuke or gulag inmates? Scientists baffled by Sarah Griffids, Mail Online, Feb. 7, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2553841/Siberian-eagles-nest- continues-baffle-scientists-Theories-250-year-old-mound-formed-range-meteori te-strike-nuclear-blast.html Huge Eagle Nest in woods, English Russia,May 27, 2013 http://englishrussia.com/2013/05/27/huge-eagle-nest-in-the-woods/ What created this mysterious Siberian crater? by Kate Baklitskaya, The Siberian Times, October 14, 2012 http://www.sott.net/article/264671-What-created-this-mysterious-Siberian-cra ter This is certainly one of the strangest craterwrongs that I have ever seen. Some of the various theories that have been proposed for its origins are mentioned in: Patomsky crater - the nest of fire Eagle. Unknown Russia http://runknown.com/patomsky-crater-the-nest-of-fire-eagle I would be interested in what the people on this list think about what might have created this pile of rock? Does anyone know what is being said about it among Russian geologists and geomorphologists? Whatever, it is, it is quite young. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Tucson auction... and everything!
Yeah. Same here, Mark. In fact, I wasn't able to make it to Tucson at all. So I not only missed the auction, but the IMCA dinner, Meteorite Mayhem, and... most of all, just visiting all the great showrooms and hanging out with friends. Hope everyone's having a great time and buying... or selling... lots of cool space rocks! :^) Linton - Original Message - From: Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Tucson auction Does anybody else have some cool auction info to share, or online pics? I was planning to go, but unfortunately I had to take care of sick loved ones... There were a few items that I wanted to bid on. Hope everyone has a good rest of the show, Mark -- From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Hi Adam all, You are right that the UFO items were a source of great mirth and Most brought surprisingly high bids - one very high, and you are only partly mistaken. The Alien Crap one of the lots brought 4 digit bids, but there was one lunar that sold for $12,000 - 5 digits, so, did not top the highest price - but was quite impressive. I find it interesting that some of the loudest complainers about Various aspects of the auction were not at the auction and missed out On some Very good pieces. Best regards, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7084 - Release Date: 02/11/14 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
