Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list]

Adam,


Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me and my 
auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just trying to 
protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention, that's not 
protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after the last few 
years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've finally got me. 
On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't. 


I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the 
pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as 
often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy 
control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and 
contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up and 
document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr. Kring 
and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think Osceola 
cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your back yard, 
unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've worked very hard 
over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in this hobby, sharing 
with whom ever and wherever I can. And yes, I'm defensive right now because I 
take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying to draw attention to me, 
specifically, right now while my once or so a year ebay ads are running, and I 
don't deserve that  You should pick someone else to target, maybe someone that 
is actually out doing bad things.


 While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be adhered to, 
everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should throw it in the 
garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have procured these same 
falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile too, or turn themselves in 
and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone of sound mind can see, that's 
ridiculous and these laws are very much not unlike other b.s. laws of the past 
and present, practically unenforceable and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a 
victim by definition and I don't see a victim here. Furthermore, the stones 
would have to be reclassified and proven to be legitimate, then in the case of 
say Battle Mountain, Gold Basin, Franconia or Indian Butte, to name a few, 
there is a checkerboard or mix of private / public land. Which stone is this? 
Where was this particular stone found? Prove where the stone came from! And all 
for what? What a joke, a complete waste of resources. It's like trying to 
enforce sodomy laws or tell people they can't smoke weed, forget it. My 
neighbor in Az is a county sheriff and I watch him do a rolling stop everyday 
at the stop sign in front of the house, do I lecture him? Should I call his 
boss? GET REAL. These laws you cite are wrong headed, or at the very least, if 
used to prosecute a guy like me, that would not be in the true spirit of which 
they were written. Despite the fact you say you don't agree with the laws, you 
seem to be quite an outspoken proponent on this list, unless of course it 
interferes with your pursuits.


Adam, I used to have great respect for you, and though I can't take away 
anything positive you've done in the past, it would seem your days of positive 
contribution are over. During the past several years your posts have 
continually deteriorated in such a negative way that I don't respect you 
anymore. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you are the snitch you mention. 
You're not my meteorite Daddy and I didn't ask for your advice or your 
protection. Please do not comment on my posts in the future. Like I said to you 
once in the past, relax man, get outside and go find a meteorite. Find 
something  constructive to do. Based on the emails, texts and phone calls I've 
received today, many others would agree.





Sincerely,
Larry


-Original Message-
From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
To: metlist 
Sent: Mon, Jan 8, 2018 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

What happens if meteorites are collected illegally from public lands?If 
meteorites are collected illegally from public lands you can be cited under 
FLPMA and the regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5(a) for illegal removal of any 
personal property or any scientific resource or natural object. You will also 
be subject to criminal prosecution under title 18, section 641 for the theft of 
Federal property and related criminal statutes depending on the type of illegal 
activity, including false labeling under title 18, section 1001.I would take 
this very seriously.  There are snitches in our midst as many have found out 
the hard way.On 1/7/2018 11:54 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:> 
Thanks for the heads up, but really...> > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail> > > > 

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or probable
fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government or
state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hi Ruben and List,
>
> Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
>
> I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree with
> the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the monetary
> value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide by them.
>
> Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk of
> prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit for
> competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.  Not only
> that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds, jeopardize the
> collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest of us.  Dealers
> breaking the law can be used as examples for even stricter laws forbidding
> the hunting of meteorites altogether.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything, including Ads!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up, but really...
>>>
>>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>>>
>>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>>>  wrote:
>>> I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in mind that
>>> selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is against federal
>>> law.
>>> I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as some List
>>> Members
>>> have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite sales,
>>> especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e., for free and
>>> without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the BLM's
>>> regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to certain public
>>> lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected per person
>>> per
>>> year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of non-motorized and
>>> non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are okay. However,
>>> specimens that are casually collected are for personal use only, and may
>>> not
>>> be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
>>> https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf
>>> Happy
>>> hunting,
>>> On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote: > > List, >
>>> > I
>>> have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about 24 hours.
>>> Most
>>> started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids. There are a
>>> few
>>> items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from Florida. Or
>>> NWA
>>> 11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end cut with
>>> only 2
>>> bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would be the rarely
>>> offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City. Another
>>> rarely
>>> offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian Butte, aka
>>> Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA 11184. It's a
>>> 2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't miss the
>>> extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold quick, there are 2
>>> more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick search on the
>>> internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are practically
>>> unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from my big find
>>> in
>>> 2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581 an LL6. >
>>> NWA
>>> 10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. > unclassified NWA type3
>>> slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no bids and no
>>> reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and check them out
>>> if
>>> interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_saca
>>> t=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_
>>> samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26sa
>>> slc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_
>>> saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
>>>
 Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > > www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com >
>>
> IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

John, This string has been changed to BLM Public land.  We can also go 
back to the infamous D.G. Schmitt papers which stated the following and 
started much of the this grief back in 2001.


"United States of America.  A  find  is  owned  by  the  land-owner.  A 
find  on  federal  government  property  is  owned  by the  Department 
of  the  Interior  but  may  be  acquired  by  the Smithsonian 
Institution."


https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2001/pdf/5150.pdf

or where meteorites were deemed cultural objects that should not be 
squandered on dealers and collectors:


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1945-5100.2002.tb00897.x/pdf


Adam


On 1/8/2018 3:58 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:

I tried--I really didbut
All pertinent information has been conveyed and understood by All.
Everything else,in my opinion, is bloviated non-information.
Someone needs to let this thread go--g,--I wonder who that
may be?

- Original Message -
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" 
To: "metlist" 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!


Micheal, You are breaking your own proposed rule by posting to the List.
   I think meteorite hunters have a right to know the issues that could
have an affect on hunting meteorites on public land.

I tried to change the subject heading but people keep posting to this
string.

Adam



On 1/8/2018 3:30 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote:

Then send him a private note, and respond to his note to you in private.

I would argue that you going on and on and on about this draws more
attention to it than the ad itself.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Larry,

I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports but
was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up on a
commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of meteorite
hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since the 1990's so
this is nothing new.

These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at the
Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. If the
name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would shock the
entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand caught in the
cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on others.

My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this avocation,
being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no problem with
collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every argument I have had
has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.


Adam


On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:




Adam,

Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me
and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just
trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention,
that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after
the last few years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've
finally got me. On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't.

I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the
pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as
often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy
control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and
contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up
and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr.
Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think
Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your
back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've
worked very hard over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in
this hobby, sharing with whom ever and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive
right now because I take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying
to draw attention to me, specifically, right now while my once or so a year
ebay ads are running, and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else
to target, maybe someone that is actually out doing bad things.

While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be
adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should
throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have
procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile
too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone
of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are very much not
unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, practically unenforceable
and wrong to begin with. A 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

I tried--I really didbut
All pertinent information has been conveyed and understood by All.
Everything else,in my opinion, is bloviated non-information.
Someone needs to let this thread go--g,--I wonder who that
may be?

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" 
To: "metlist" 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!


Micheal, You are breaking your own proposed rule by posting to the List.
  I think meteorite hunters have a right to know the issues that could
have an affect on hunting meteorites on public land.

I tried to change the subject heading but people keep posting to this
string.

Adam



On 1/8/2018 3:30 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Then send him a private note, and respond to his note to you in private.
>
> I would argue that you going on and on and on about this draws more
> attention to it than the ad itself.
>
> Michael in so. Cal.
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports but
>> was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up on a
>> commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of meteorite
>> hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since the 1990's so
>> this is nothing new.
>>
>> These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at the
>> Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. If the
>> name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would shock the
>> entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand caught in the
>> cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on others.
>>
>> My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this avocation,
>> being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no problem with
>> collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every argument I have had
>> has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam,
>>>
>>> Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me
>>> and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just
>>> trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention,
>>> that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after
>>> the last few years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've
>>> finally got me. On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't.
>>>
>>> I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the
>>> pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as
>>> often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy
>>> control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and
>>> contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up
>>> and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr.
>>> Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think
>>> Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your
>>> back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've
>>> worked very hard over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in
>>> this hobby, sharing with whom ever and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive
>>> right now because I take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying
>>> to draw attention to me, specifically, right now while my once or so a year
>>> ebay ads are running, and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else
>>> to target, maybe someone that is actually out doing bad things.
>>>
>>>While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be
>>> adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should
>>> throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have
>>> procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile
>>> too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone
>>> of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are very much not
>>> unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, practically unenforceable
>>> and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a victim by definition and I don't
>>> see a victim here. Furthermore, the stones would have to be reclassified and
>>> proven to be legitimate, then in the case of say Battle Mountain, Gold
>>> Basin, Franconia or Indian Butte, to name a few, there is a checkerboard or
>>> mix of private / public land. Which stone is this? Where was this particular
>>> stone found? Prove where the stone came from! And all for what? What a joke,
>>> a complete waste of resources. It's like trying to enforce sodomy 

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

One just needs to search the List archives to discover the truth.

In any case, the BLM has made its position clear on the subject. The 
laws that apply to finds are the same for falls.  The BLM doesn't 
differentiate between the two. Let's just hope that the rest of our 
rights are not lost.  It only takes a few to ruin it for everybody else.


Adam






On 1/8/2018 3:45 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote:
I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or probable 
fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government 
or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.


On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" 
> wrote:


Hi Ruben and List,

Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?

I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree
with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the
monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide
by them.

Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call. 
Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,

jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest
of us.  Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.

Adam





On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:

This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything,
including Ads!



On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
> wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, but really...

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> wrote:
I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in
mind that
selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is
against federal law.
I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as
some List Members
have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite
sales,
especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e.,
for free and
without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the
BLM's
regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to
certain public
lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected
per person per
year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of
non-motorized and
non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are
okay. However,
specimens that are casually collected are for personal use
only, and may not
be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf


Happy
hunting,
On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:
 > > List, > > I
have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about
24 hours. Most
started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids.
There are a few
items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from
Florida. Or NWA
11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end
cut with only 2
bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would
be the rarely
offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City.
Another rarely
offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian
Butte, aka
Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA
11184. It's a
2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't
miss the
extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold
quick, there are 2
more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick
search on the
internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are
practically
unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from
my big find in
2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581
   

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

Micheal, You are breaking your own proposed rule by posting to the List. 
 I think meteorite hunters have a right to know the issues that could 
have an affect on hunting meteorites on public land.


I tried to change the subject heading but people keep posting to this 
string.


Adam



On 1/8/2018 3:30 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote:

Then send him a private note, and respond to his note to you in private.

I would argue that you going on and on and on about this draws more
attention to it than the ad itself.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Larry,

I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports but
was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up on a
commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of meteorite
hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since the 1990's so
this is nothing new.

These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at the
Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. If the
name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would shock the
entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand caught in the
cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on others.

My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this avocation,
being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no problem with
collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every argument I have had
has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.


Adam


On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:




Adam,

Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me
and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just
trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention,
that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after
the last few years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've
finally got me. On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't.

I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the
pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as
often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy
control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and
contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up
and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr.
Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think
Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your
back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've
worked very hard over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in
this hobby, sharing with whom ever and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive
right now because I take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying
to draw attention to me, specifically, right now while my once or so a year
ebay ads are running, and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else
to target, maybe someone that is actually out doing bad things.

   While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be
adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should
throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have
procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile
too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone
of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are very much not
unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, practically unenforceable
and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a victim by definition and I don't
see a victim here. Furthermore, the stones would have to be reclassified and
proven to be legitimate, then in the case of say Battle Mountain, Gold
Basin, Franconia or Indian Butte, to name a few, there is a checkerboard or
mix of private / public land. Which stone is this? Where was this particular
stone found? Prove where the stone came from! And all for what? What a joke,
a complete waste of resources. It's like trying to enforce sodomy laws or
tell people they can't smoke weed, forget it. My neighbor in Az is a county
sheriff and I watch him do a rolling stop everyday at the stop sign in front
of the house, do I lecture him? Should I call his boss? GET REAL. These laws
you cite are wrong headed, or at the very least, if used to prosecute a guy
like me, that would not be in the true spirit of which they were written.
Despite the fact you say you don't agree with the laws, you seem to be quite
an outspoken proponent on this list, unless of course it interferes with
your pursuits.

Adam, I used to have great respect for you, and though I can't take away
anything positive you've done in the past, it would seem your days of
positive contribution are 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list]

Then send him a private note, and respond to his note to you in private.

I would argue that you going on and on and on about this draws more
attention to it than the ad itself.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Larry,
>
> I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports but
> was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up on a
> commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of meteorite
> hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since the 1990's so
> this is nothing new.
>
> These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at the
> Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. If the
> name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would shock the
> entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand caught in the
> cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on others.
>
> My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this avocation,
> being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no problem with
> collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every argument I have had
> has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
> On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam,
>>
>> Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me
>> and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are just
>> trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo attention,
>> that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't believe that after
>> the last few years of watching you drag people into ridiculousville you've
>> finally got me. On one hand I really want to ignore you but I can't.
>>
>> I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of the
>> pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to science as
>> often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started my poison ivy
>> control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue meteorites and
>> contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own dollars to open up
>> and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is now confirmed by Dr.
>> Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat and treasure do you think
>> Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on end for two winters in your
>> back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City strewn field all on my dime? I've
>> worked very hard over the years in my spare time to be a positive force in
>> this hobby, sharing with whom ever and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive
>> right now because I take your posts personally. I feel like you are trying
>> to draw attention to me, specifically, right now while my once or so a year
>> ebay ads are running, and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else
>> to target, maybe someone that is actually out doing bad things.
>>
>>   While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be
>> adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite should
>> throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions that have
>> procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the burn pile
>> too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. So as anyone
>> of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are very much not
>> unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, practically unenforceable
>> and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a victim by definition and I don't
>> see a victim here. Furthermore, the stones would have to be reclassified and
>> proven to be legitimate, then in the case of say Battle Mountain, Gold
>> Basin, Franconia or Indian Butte, to name a few, there is a checkerboard or
>> mix of private / public land. Which stone is this? Where was this particular
>> stone found? Prove where the stone came from! And all for what? What a joke,
>> a complete waste of resources. It's like trying to enforce sodomy laws or
>> tell people they can't smoke weed, forget it. My neighbor in Az is a county
>> sheriff and I watch him do a rolling stop everyday at the stop sign in front
>> of the house, do I lecture him? Should I call his boss? GET REAL. These laws
>> you cite are wrong headed, or at the very least, if used to prosecute a guy
>> like me, that would not be in the true spirit of which they were written.
>> Despite the fact you say you don't agree with the laws, you seem to be quite
>> an outspoken proponent on this list, unless of course it interferes with
>> your pursuits.
>>
>> Adam, I used to have great respect for you, and though I can't take away
>> anything positive you've done in the past, it would seem your days of
>> positive contribution are over. During the past several years your posts
>> have continually deteriorated in such a negative way that I don't respect
>> you anymore. I wouldn't be a bit 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

Larry,

I do not have a problem with you personally.  I enjoy your field reports 
but was dismayed to see meteorites found on public land being offered up 
on a commercial basis since it could have an affect on the future of 
meteorite hunting.  I have been involved with BLM land discussions since 
the 1990's so this is nothing new.


These laws are being enforced which I am sure people will hear about at 
the Tucson show.  No, I am not the snitch.  Actually there are several. 
If the name of just one these snitches (informants) got out, it would 
shock the entire community.  It only takes one person, with their hand 
caught in the cookie jar, to try and save their own butt by turning on 
others.


My negativity stems from all the damage that has occurred to this 
avocation, being ripped off and badmouthed by dealers.  I have no 
problem with collectors who I tend to side with these days.  Every 
argument I have had has been with dealers, mainly the 3.0 crowd.



Adam


On 1/8/2018 2:45 PM, Larry Atkins wrote:



Adam,

Man, you are killing me. Are you just bored? Why are you singling out me 
and my auctions? I've never done anything to you, and don't say you are 
just trying to protect me and other dealers, you are drawing undo 
attention, that's not protection. Leave sleeping dogs lie. I can't 
believe that after the last few years of watching you drag people into 
ridiculousville you've finally got me. On one hand I really want to 
ignore you but I can't.


I sell once a year, enough to cover a tiny percentage of the costs of 
the pursuit. I contribute valuable information and new meteorites to 
science as often as I can, all with my own hard earned money. I started 
my poison ivy control business 12 years ago just so that I could pursue 
meteorites and contribute to the science. I spent thousands of my own 
dollars to open up and document the Nevada side of Gold Basin, (which is 
now confirmed by Dr. Kring and publication is pending.) How much sweat 
and treasure do you think Osceola cost me? How about weeks and weeks on 
end for two winters in your back yard, unraveling the Bullhead City 
strewn field all on my dime? I've worked very hard over the years in my 
spare time to be a positive force in this hobby, sharing with whom ever 
and wherever I can.And yes, I'm defensive right now because I take your 
posts personally. I feel like you are trying to draw attention to me, 
specifically, right now while my once or so a year ebay ads are running, 
and I don't deserve that  You should pick someone else to target, maybe 
someone that is actually out doing bad things.


  While I'm at it, if this was something that actually needed to be 
adhered to, everyone that has ever bought a questionable meteorite 
should throw it in the garbage right now. Universities and institutions 
that have procured these same falls and finds should throw theirs on the 
burn pile too, or turn themselves in and be prosecuted for trafficking. 
So as anyone of sound mind can see, that's ridiculous and these laws are 
very much not unlike other b.s. laws of the past and present, 
practically unenforceable and wrong to begin with. A crime needs a 
victim by definition and I don't see a victim here. Furthermore, the 
stones would have to be reclassified and proven to be legitimate, then 
in the case of say Battle Mountain, Gold Basin, Franconia or Indian 
Butte, to name a few, there is a checkerboard or mix of private / public 
land. Which stone is this? Where was this particular stone found? Prove 
where the stone came from! And all for what? What a joke, a complete 
waste of resources. It's like trying to enforce sodomy laws or tell 
people they can't smoke weed, forget it. My neighbor in Az is a county 
sheriff and I watch him do a rolling stop everyday at the stop sign in 
front of the house, do I lecture him? Should I call his boss? GET REAL. 
These laws you cite are wrong headed, or at the very least, if used to 
prosecute a guy like me, that would not be in the true spirit of which 
they were written. Despite the fact you say you don't agree with the 
laws, you seem to be quite an outspoken proponent on this list, unless 
of course it interferes with your pursuits.


Adam, I used to have great respect for you, and though I can't take away 
anything positive you've done in the past, it would seem your days of 
positive contribution are over. During the past several years your posts 
have continually deteriorated in such a negative way that I don't 
respect you anymore. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you are the snitch 
you mention. You're not my meteorite Daddy and I didn't ask for your 
advice or your protection. Please do not comment on my posts in the 
future. Like I said to you once in the past, relax man, get outside and 
go find a meteorite. Find something  constructive to do. Based on the 
emails, texts and phone calls I've received today, many others would agree.



Sincerely,
Larry

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From: 

[meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

Hi Ruben and List,

Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?

I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree with 
the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the monetary 
value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide by them.


Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk of 
prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit for 
competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call.  Not only 
that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds, jeopardize the 
collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest of us.  Dealers 
breaking the law can be used as examples for even stricter laws 
forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.


Adam





On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:

This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything, including Ads!



On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
 wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, but really...

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On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in mind that
selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is against federal law.
I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as some List Members
have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite sales,
especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e., for free and
without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the BLM's
regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to certain public
lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected per person per
year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of non-motorized and
non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are okay. However,
specimens that are casually collected are for personal use only, and may not
be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf Happy
hunting,
On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote: > > List, > > I
have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about 24 hours. Most
started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids. There are a few
items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from Florida. Or NWA
11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end cut with only 2
bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would be the rarely
offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City. Another rarely
offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian Butte, aka
Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA 11184. It's a
2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't miss the
extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold quick, there are 2
more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick search on the
internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are practically
unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from my big find in
2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581 an LL6. > NWA
10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. > unclassified NWA type3
slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no bids and no
reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and check them out if
interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200

Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > > www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com >

IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything, including Ads!



On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Thanks for the heads up, but really...
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
> 
> On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in mind that
> selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is against federal law.
> I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as some List Members
> have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite sales,
> especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e., for free and
> without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the BLM's
> regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to certain public
> lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected per person per
> year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of non-motorized and
> non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are okay. However,
> specimens that are casually collected are for personal use only, and may not
> be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
> https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf Happy
> hunting,
> On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote: > > List, > > I
> have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about 24 hours. Most
> started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids. There are a few
> items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from Florida. Or NWA
> 11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end cut with only 2
> bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would be the rarely
> offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City. Another rarely
> offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian Butte, aka
> Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA 11184. It's a
> 2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't miss the
> extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold quick, there are 2
> more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick search on the
> internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are practically
> unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from my big find in
> 2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581 an LL6. > NWA
> 10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. > unclassified NWA type3
> slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no bids and no
> reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and check them out if
> interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
>> > > Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > > www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com >
> IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad 32 Auctions Lots of Good Deals!

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

What happens if meteorites are collected illegally from public lands?

If meteorites are collected illegally from public lands you can be cited 
under FLPMA and the regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5(a) for illegal 
removal of any personal property or any scientific resource or natural 
object. You will also be subject to criminal prosecution under title 18, 
section 641 for the theft of Federal property and related criminal 
statutes depending on the type of illegal activity, including false 
labeling under title 18, section 1001.


I would take this very seriously.  There are snitches in our midst as 
many have found out the hard way.




On 1/7/2018 11:54 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, but really...

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On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:


I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in mind that 
selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is against federal 
law. I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as some List 
Members have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite 
sales, especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e., for 
free and without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the 
BLM's regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to certain 
public lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected per 
person per year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of 
non-motorized and non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors 
are okay. However, specimens that are casually collected are for 
personal use only, and may not be bartered or sold for commercial 
purposes. Reference: 
https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf 
Happy hunting,
On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote: > > List, > 
 > I have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about 24 
hours. Most started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids. 
There are a few items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall 
from Florida. Or NWA 11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 
gram end cut with only 2 bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other 
highlights would be the rarely offered Arizona find officially 
recognized as Bullhead City. Another rarely offered Arizona meteorite, 
the witnessed fall called Indian Butte, aka Stanfield. I have a low TKW 
Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA 11184. It's a 2.71 gram full slice that 
is currently at $13.00. > > Don't miss the extraordinary Anda tektites. 
The first 2 I put up sold quick, there are 2 more up with very 
reasonable buy it now prices and a quick search on the internet will 
demonstrate the rarity, these things are practically unobtainable. > > 
Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from my big find in 2007. > A 3.2 
kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581 an LL6. > NWA 10140 Lunar 
1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. > unclassified NWA type3 slices. > 
NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no bids and no reserve! > 
 > There are others as well, take a minute and check them out if 
interested. > > Thank you. > > > > 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200 
 > > > Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > > 
www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com 
 > IMCA # 1941 > > 
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[Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for the heads up, but really...

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:
I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in mind that selling 
meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is against federal law. I do not 
want to see anybody get into trouble because, as some List Members have found 
out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite sales, especially eBay. 
Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e., for free and without a permit, 
under FLPMA However,in accordance with the BLM's regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 
collection is limited to certain public lands, (2) only specimens up to ten 
pounds may be collected per person per year, and (3) only surface collection 
with the use of non-motorized and non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal 
detectors are okay. However, specimens that are casually collected are for 
personal use only, and may not be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. 
Reference: https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf 
Happy hunting, 

On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote: > > List, > > I 
have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about 24 hours. Most 
started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids. There are a few 
items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from Florida. Or NWA 
11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end cut with only 2 
bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would be the rarely 
offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City. Another rarely 
offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian Butte, aka 
Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA 11184. It's a 2.71 
gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't miss the extraordinary 
Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold quick, there are 2 more up with very 
reasonable buy it now prices and a quick search on the internet will 
demonstrate the rarity, these things are practically unobtainable. > > Others 
listed are: > Holbrook frag's from my big find in 2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin 
from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581 an LL6. > NWA 10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 
anorthositic troctolite. > unclassified NWA type3 slices. > NWA 8663 A complete 
crusted eucrite stone with no bids and no reserve! > > There are others as 
well, take a minute and check them out if interested. > > Thank you. > > > > 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
 > > > Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > > www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com > 
IMCA # 1941 > > Ebay alienrockfarm > > > 
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[meteorite-list] AD new meteorite's at collectingmeteorites page

[Tomasz Jakubowski via Meteorite-list]

Dear Meteorite List
I have many meteorites available at my sale page 
www.collectingmeteorites.com/meteorites-for-sale/

Including :
nice Esquel 115g slice :
http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/esquel-115g-most-beautiful-pallasite-with-rober-haag-label/

beauty Sariçiçek (Bingol) 73g with radial flow lines :
http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/saricicek-bingol-howardite-73g-observed-fall-form-turkey-2015-nice-radial-flow-lines/

natural patina, oriented Henbury 818g :
http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/henbury-iiiab-818g-amazing-as-found-specimen/

large 173g end piece of Lunar NWA 11421 :
http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/nwa-11421-lunar-meteorite-feldspathic-breccia-172g-end-piece-amazing-texture/

and slices of NWA 11421 Lunar :
http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/lunar-meteorite-feldspathic-regolith-breccia-212g-with-amazing-texture/

...and many many more meteorites.

Any question? feel free to ask at illae...@gmail.com 

I am open on trades too...


All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
www.collectingmeteorites.com
PTM, IMCA, MetSoc





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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Tabas 001 TS

Contributed by: Timur Kryachko

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/08/2018
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