Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield

2006-10-23 Thread Mr EMan
Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. A single stone-2-3 stones do not a strewn field make unless there is compelling evidence that there was a wide spread peppering of stones. We are talking meteorite showers here. Park Forest, Allende,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)

2006-10-23 Thread Mr EMan
--- E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem still remains what caused sufficient number of atoms of the same type to be in the same place at the same time to produce the crystals and glasses observed. I think crystal formation in a fluid preceded the choundrule formation. Seems

[meteorite-list] Re: Weird bit-o-space The Rules of Chondrule colors

2006-10-24 Thread Mr EMan
As to identifying minerals through photographs let me mention... this is why God created thin sections and polarizing microscopesand as man came to better understanding the micro probe was given unto him(Grin) There are no CAI's that I see in this specimen. Someone has some great CAI photos

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Wanted: Etched Willamette Slice

2006-11-07 Thread Mr EMan
I know a guy that knows a guy that works the graveyard shift at a planetarium... How much were you looking to pay? BTW what kind of hacksaw blade works best on iron? Elton --- Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for an etched part slice of the Willamette meteorite. Something

Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mr EMan
Ok Meteorite Trivia Buffs...Wasn't there a meteorite recovered which had been nesstled into the lining of a penguin nest(sic) or other species of sea bird? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

RE: [meteorite-list] NEW photos of the silicated iron... Chrome Diopside

2006-11-10 Thread Mr EMan
--- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering on the chromium aspect. I know some of you are better geology people then me, but wouldn't that be an emerald? Chromium is one of the trace elements responsible for the green color in both diopside and emerald. Basic Diopside is

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -Image overlaping the caption

2006-11-19 Thread Mr EMan
Go to image zoom under view in the menu and reduce it to 75%, This Will expose the caption text. I accidentally found that in Firefox, the image floats over the caption and you can see the text by resizing the image. I can't seem to make any image zoom settings permanent. Elton --- Michael L

Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty rocks-- Lawrencite Disease, Trixie

2006-11-22 Thread Mr EMan
There is a name for this Rusty Rock condition which veterans of collecting know as Lawrencite disease. Lawrencite is the mineral Iron/Nickel Chloride (Fe,Ni)Cl2. In fact Lawrencite's type classification location was a Georgia USA Meteorite. Drying out a meteorite isn't an complete answer because

Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty rocks-- Lawrencite Disease, Correction

2006-11-22 Thread Mr EMan
iron in distileld degassed water, seal it and it would form a thin rind of Iron Oxide but remain pristine for decades. Elton --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact Lawrencite's type classification location was a Georgia USA Meteorite

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Lawrencite and Akaganeite, w/data card

2006-11-22 Thread Mr EMan
For the terrestrial phase, minerals-in-meteorites collector here are links to lawrencite and akaganeite. There is even a printable collection card at the bottom of each description.(as are taenite and kamacite under their descriptions) Akaganeite: http://webmineral.com/data/Akaganeite.shtml

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Lawrencite and Akaganeite, w/data card

2006-11-22 Thread Mr EMan
For the terrestrial phase, minerals-in-meteorites collector here are links to lawrencite and akaganeite. There is even a printable collection card at the bottom of each description.(as are taenite and kamacite under their descriptions) Akaganeite: http://webmineral.com/data/Akaganeite.shtml

Re: [meteorite-list] S***** Steve Arnold Chicago

2006-11-24 Thread Mr EMan
Ok the gates of hell apparently have frozen over, I am stepping up to remind the membership that rules are rules and while I have violated them myself there is a prohibition against posting personal attacks, and we are in round 4 of the present one. Please take it off list else temper the

Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector

2006-11-24 Thread Mr EMan
Jim, I think this is critical for the list as many of us are preparing for our next expeditions. Thank you for volunteering to do this for the group. Please put aside your other chores and start searching. Can you get this posted by next week since Christmas is right around the corner???

Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
--- Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the 2 photos I posted last week, should anyone care to comment based on photos alone: Yeah I'll bite. The photos don't exclude this from being a meteorite and the empty depressions might be missing condrules. This doesn't look like an iron.

Re: [meteorite-list] A probable new Bencubbinite?

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
That is my assessment! Some guys have all the luck. Please let us know the results. Elton --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello a my friend have give to me this item for analyzed. He have buy in a mineral shop years ago. In the label its write arrive from

Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
--- mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talk about complete misconception after misconception! Now show me where you can buy a 700GBq Po-210 source (without any'questions asked') and I will be worried, until then... PssstMark c'mere Opening rain coat to expose a shop's worth of trinkets

Re: [meteorite-list] valuable Nantan

2006-11-28 Thread Mr EMan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think i smell fish. Yeppers! shil-fish And why are these Nantans and Campos only found in museum quality? Where are the common ones? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) another trade offer NO you are NOT sorry

2006-11-29 Thread Mr EMan
...NO you are NOT sorry or you would STOP it. I am tiring of hearing you say you are sorry then go ahead and do it anyway. Look...don't bother to say you are sorry or mention the nay sayers, don't explain why you think you should be exempt from self discipline, self restraint, or limits on ads

[meteorite-list] Pass Times other than posting meteorite sales

2006-11-29 Thread Mr EMan
Here is a suggestion for Helping an Illinois-based Meteorite dealer-non-dealer-collector-non-collector whatever. Steve are you listening? Try this to reduce your SALES posts. Find an alternative pass time like cooking... A Good Starter recipe. Print out for Reference: Alphabet keyboard soup

Re: [meteorite-list] Essexite Gabbro Max size

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
Good Question, Mark: Hap McSween author of Meteorites and their Parent Bodies and Department head at the UNIV of [EMAIL PROTECTED] did calculations for maximum and minimum sizes at launch that allowed a Martian meteorite to arrive on the ground. It had to be small enough to not flash melt at

Re: [meteorite-list] monomict vs.polymict

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Steve, Listoids, These are the terms describing the composition of meteorite breccias not just Eucrites. Poly means plural-- or many, and mono means single. In a monomict all the clasts are of the same type and class (i.e. Lithologies). Meaning they came from a single parent body. In a

Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar? Met 101 Long Rant

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
OK... a sanity check here. If it screams meteorwrong why list it in the collection of meteorites with the caption Possible lunar??? Such speculation cloaked in ??? is a disservice to novices who happen upon the photo when Googling and use that caption to justify their meteorwrongs. Maybe it

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons was AD- Coins etc.

2006-12-04 Thread Mr EMan
I am in agreement with Martin. This is a myth that we shouldn't allow to perpetuate on the list. An Iron/siderite my have an original ablation surface, as well as flow characteristics but won't have a fusion crust. There are many reasons I won't go into about why iron doesn't have the

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-15 Thread Mr EMan
--- Rick Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression they would rust away and simply dismissed hunting underwater. (SNIP)Im just a rookie Meteorite hunter and new to the list, but have been working on the bottom for 37 years. Sorry to hear of your extended submerssion just

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-16 Thread Mr EMan
How so? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting hypothesis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell To: Rick Davis ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-20 Thread Mr EMan
- From: Mr EMan How so? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting hypothesis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell the metal-based ones probably would not be worth an air fill. but the carbon ones should be water

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2006-12-20 Thread Mr EMan
--- abdelfattah gharrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if there were a resemblance of some criteria of certain meteorites with terrestrial rocks(basalt). the meteorites had the same processes of fusion and crystallization like the magmatic and volcanic rocks? Abdel. While there are differences

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company

2006-12-21 Thread Mr EMan
--- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should

Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake

2006-12-21 Thread Mr EMan
Problem is David they failed to map the entire field -- just the lake and they didn't recover all the mapped fragments, or so I am lead to believe. I think there were less than 6 plots on land( all adjacent to the shore) out of what 300? plots on the lake surface. Yes perhaps we can project the

Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14

2006-12-22 Thread Mr EMan
I believe that this is a seismometer package--pretty sure by the grid in the background. The silver package on the left was a plutonium based(?) thermocouple powersupply(complete with an insulating blanket). I believe I read that the experiment is still transmitting. The streak ...well any Star

Re: [meteorite-list] Polujamki/Markovka pairing: second try

2007-01-05 Thread Mr EMan
There isn't enough information to reach a conclusion. The original masses and how they were assembled prior to fragmentation are missing values and presently beyond valid modeling. However, interesting observation. Eman --- Thaddeus Besedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polujamki and

Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Object Crashes Through New Jersey Home

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Why do we keep speaking of fusion crust on iron meteorites? Eman WNBC-TV here in N.Y. showed a clip of the rock yesterday, no fusion crust that I could see. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Seen IMCA control the not honest dealers or buyers

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Number 1: I believe this is an issue between YOU and EBAY in accordance with the Ebay standard practice and terms of service agreement. Number 2: ... It is too overwhelming to put into words so this will have to suffice. Where do you get off complaining about a lack of honesty and integrity?

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
128 hours... Ah ummm I believe there are several on ebay just now. --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list.Are there any small,30 to 50 gram complete individuals forsale?I have not seen any. __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball. Elton --- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from solid limestone 100ft deep or so?

Re: [meteorite-list] Fossil, Relict, or Paleo- was Fossil NWA 2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Under this NomCom guideline NWA2828 isn't relict as it is hardly altered and should be referred to as a paleo meteorite. (Note:If this gets too drawn out all meteoritic material is paleo as most is 4.5 billion years old). However, paleo is a best choice of the three proposed terms. My take on

[meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's... was Iron Falls NJO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Someone wrote: ...recovered recently after falling had been beautifully fusion crusted, ...(snip) Why anyone should doubt the existence of fusion crust on a freshly fallen iron is beyond me - have a look at Cabin Creek if you want proof that it still forms on smallish irons falling at terminal

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Listoids, Svend --- Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:... I do not agree that the Glossary of Geology of the American Geological Institute is a sound reference for nomenclature and terminology of meteorites. GIST: For those that don't want to read the details, I am asserting that even

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
I defined glass in a previous post specifically as that which is formed from fuseing/melting silicates. Which is closest to your thrid definition of glassy. This isn't a discussion of commercial applications of glass or philosophical ones. You missed the point of this whole arguement that

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Thanks for a cogent answer to my comments, Matthias. We are in violent AGREEMENT. I fear now that I will soon be the dead messenger beating the dead horse on this simple issue. I didn't select the term glassy for my argument. I pointed out that it was quoted from the web site's definition and

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
U What part of silicated irons may form a fusion crust from my first post did you miss? (GEEZEEE It feels like I am defending my thesis all over again) Regards, Elton --- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List It occurs to me that many silicated irons exist. So, if it walks like a

[meteorite-list] WANTED: Ries belemnite/ impact affected fossils

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
I am in search of a specimen of the Ries offset Jurassic age, belemnites. (Or other examples of shock affected fossils from elsewhere) OR, if you have a publishable photo of said specimens. If anyone has a specimen for sale or trade AND I am still inside the Brotherhood-- please contact me off

Re: [meteorite-list] Taenite vs. Kamacite... was RFS Picture of the Day

2007-01-21 Thread Mr EMan
Greetings Bernd, Mike, List: --- tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can you tell the difference between kamacite and taenite? Does the crystal structure give it away? So far as I can remember... Taenite (79.19 % Fe 20.81 % Ni) aka gamma-iron and kamacite (89.54 % Fe 10.46 % Ni)aka

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching Iron Meteorites

2007-01-31 Thread Mr EMan
Dear Jerry, Why do you say WOW!? just WOW? I enjoy a good discussion like everyone else so imagine my disappointment in opening posts that just say Wow or Cool or Gosh... It is better to interact like this is a message board and not a chat room, in my opinion. If we all do so it will knock my

Re: [meteorite-list] tucson show

2007-02-03 Thread Mr EMan
Thank you Steve Have a good trip remember the Natural History Museum in London and their meteorite exhibit. We'll be looking forward to bidding on the Tatahounie when you return. Unfortunately, you'll still be here to endure the thrashing the Bears will receive from Peyton. But don't let that

Re: [meteorite-list] the hambledon pallasite

2007-02-08 Thread Mr EMan
WOW Dave! that seems to be a complete euhedral crystal Is that a spinel, magnetite, chromite? Regardless perfect crystal growth like this in a meteorite is ultrarare. Is this one of the pyroxene bearing pallasites? Inquiring minds. Really interesting piece, Congratulations. Elton --- Dave

Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine

2007-02-14 Thread Mr EMan
Many fireballs have a green hue and that is from atmospheric oxygen as determined through spectral analysis of meteors. Copper abundance in meteorites is rare. I used to think the green was probably from nickel. Elton --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are the only two

[meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports?

2007-02-14 Thread Mr EMan
Pre 9/11 we were privy to fireball trajectory data from the US Air Force. They have satellites staring earthward for detecting launches and reentry. That resource hasn't been mentioned in a long time and I've misplaced the site URL. I seem to recall that a list member was our liaison for

Re: [meteorite-list] Mesosiderite?

2007-02-16 Thread Mr EMan
No, looks like an H-- apparent chondrules visible in photo. Elton --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have an opinion? Mesosiderite or not? http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/mesosiderite.jpg Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing

[meteorite-list] Meso Origins...was Mesosiderite?

2007-02-18 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Gary,List As to the question of why mesosiderites don't contain chondrules... Mesosiderites are almost identical chemically. So much so, we believe they came from a single incident; that being the collision of two asteroids, at least one of them (if not both) was differentiated to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Mica in meteorites....was Comet McNaught and Sodium

2007-02-25 Thread Mr EMan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CV3 chondrite Grosnaja contains sodium phlogopite, a phyllosilicate Well if this is so, a long standing factoid in the world of meteorites falls with this finding: Mica does not occur in meteorites. Seems some meteorites DO contain mica, and a mineral

Re: [meteorite-list] Graphite Nodule 1429g - surprize

2007-02-26 Thread Mr EMan
CD's found on and around the rim of Meteor Crater were subjected to much greater pressures than the fragments which fell off the swarm such as those found in Canyon Diablo. The explanation I was given was that the pressure was sufficient to convert some of the graphite into diamonds. These can

Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Tom, List, In the for what its worth category, the degree of fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,( e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.) I don't know what wavelength is the standard for that examination. If you've the fluorscent

Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
DUH, e hummm My Bad! more Google less off the cuff, more Google less off the cuff---I think I have it now. Eman --- Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the property that is used to determine the petrologic types of chondrites is thermoluminescence (TL), not fluorescence.

Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Mr EMan
Point of information, the IMCA doesn't vouch for nor authenticate meteorites--the SELLER does and, when you get down to stats that is the pretty much the way for 98% of ebay auctions. Bill, Do I detect from your snide wording that no one will nominate you for membership? Elton --- Bill [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Peru crater-- maybe some iron

2007-09-21 Thread Mr EMan
Still unclear is why scores of residents reported falling ill shortly after the crater's discovery, but researchers say it could have been psychosomatic. In one report I read that this event excavated several carcasses of live stock which had been buried on the very spot. Havening been

Re: [meteorite-list] YOUNGER DRYAS IMPACT THEORY -- ANOTHER PRESS RELEASE

2007-09-24 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Sterling, I am separated from my files so the exact figures/dates etc. are from memory. The gist is, I was studying a glacial anomaly in Northeastern Pennsylvania along State Rt.33 at the junction of US209 near the village of Sciota. Perched atop a high ridge/cliff is the remnant of a

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs. Shock Veins..was Nice photos of Carancas Meteorite

2007-10-03 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Graham,List and-- Expeditionary Members, wherever you are It is an easy mistake in the broad scheme of things but the striation features in these photos are not shock veins but slickensides. Slickensides are the slippage surfaces of micro/macro faults where each side is ground down in

Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Listoids and Listoid Emeritus Bernd --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, no chance under such circumstances. The Kirin (Jilin) meteorite main mass was found at a depth of almost six meters and this was only possible because the ground (loessal clay) was still almost frozen ... quite unlike

[meteorite-list] Online Geological /Geophysical /Topological Map resources

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Having received some request for more online map information, here are some tips for locating free on line maps.(Primarily USA). The good news is that there is a federal program to publish digital products online that will provide complete national coverage. The bad news is that it is a federal

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs. Shock Veins correction Ringwoodite

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
I am so sorry Mia Culpa! I was covering writing several articles tonight and had a computer glitch along with a brain freeze. I lost something in the process. What I should have said was: Ringwoodite a mineral and is the spinel polymorph of olivine. Maskelynite is not a mineral but a glass

[meteorite-list] Entry Dynamics in Peru

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
As to the mention of dense atmosphere, doesn't 90% of the mass of the atmosphere lie below 2.5 miles above sea level/asl? I surmise that the shear(no pun) height of the ground there with the combination of a large meteoroid mass may have allowed for more retention of cosmic velocity then

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Dr. Richard Daniels is a pseudonym for RandallGregory

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Is this the Pete Pete that came to this list pretending to be two different people using two different email addresses? You know the one defending the name of him which shall not be said here( Hint :Gao)? The one who tipped his hand when he replied to a personal email to his pretend address

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections of Carancas Meteorite Chondritic or not

2007-10-07 Thread Mr EMan
As to what Rob has raised--I did see several chondrules in the photos. This looks much like the friable L;s we have seen and contains slickensides which would tend to make it a monomyct breccia. However these large metal blebs are intriguing and might make this an anomalous stone. I didn't see

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-08 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Graham, Bernd, list While there is no technical definition of a shock vein so far as I know, it is in wide use and I hold it to be a version of a healed fracture; healed by the 1) injection or accumulation of adjacent wall melt where the filling material has an origin in high pressure, high

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-09 Thread Mr EMan
--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has especially fine shock veins that branch like a little lightning bolt in the stone. Another distinction is that a filled fracture aka shock vein will be the same on each side--showing matching halves of any feature it transects. A

Re: [meteorite-list] mail fall or not

2007-10-14 Thread Mr EMan
Hey Steve You've been PUNKED!! You are correctamundo!! You've caught us red faced. psst...Steve, it was all a setup and you've been punk'd! You, Mike, and Matteo were the only ones on the list that weren't in on it...te he he. It was Mike that we were trying to punk-- We thought he had far

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve's 150-gram Dragon piece

2007-10-29 Thread Mr EMan
Steve Arnold (Chicago) wrote: ...one of the most beautiful and oriented meteorites that I have ever seen. OK... I'll bite-- Steve? how is this oriented? You've been collecting how many years? It may have flow features, the photos are fairly dark, but how do you justify calling this

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTED SIKOTE-ALIN

2007-10-30 Thread Mr EMan
That isn't what I asked, and for the record I did say it was an attractive specimen. I asked you, Steve how it was oriented?-- not who said it was oriented. I'd like to be the judge on that based on your description/defense of your claim. I am still waiting for you to describe what features of

Re: [meteorite-list] carancas

2007-11-03 Thread Mr EMan
How much did you pay for it Steve? Elton --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again list.Well I guess better late than never.It is not very big,but at the price it's going at, 1.18 grams,it is better than not having any.I just got my piece from mike blood.A very nice but

Re: [meteorite-list] carancas

2007-11-03 Thread Mr EMan
How much did you pay for it Steve? Elton --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again list.Well I guess better late than never.It is not very big,but at the price it's going at, 1.18 grams,it is better than not having any.I just got my piece from mike blood.A very nice but

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas and the Dragon

2007-11-04 Thread Mr EMan
if it was Steve, youself or anybody else. I would feel the same- it is how I was raised. It is not in our business to ask- especially copying a public forum in front of everyone where he is open for ridicule. Mike --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then Steve is free to decline

Re: [meteorite-list] A question about crust.

2007-11-11 Thread Mr EMan
Ditto, Tom! The claim of any crust at all is misused! The crust proper has long since ablated away by wind action and the smooth surface is being called xx.x% fusion crust. What remains are the questions: is this done through ignorance or is it willful exaggeration to garner sales? If

Re: [meteorite-list] Dueling Keyboards ....was Heidelbergensis-Zhamanshin dates

2007-11-20 Thread Mr EMan
Well... Well My take... This looks like a duel So duelly speaking, Andi, it was you who fired the first volley with your scathing attack with what you later renounced as your mistakes. Were this a duel you fired into Ed's back before even throwing down the glove. Ed, you've already been

[meteorite-list] Non Destructive testing of possible Iron Meteorites

2007-12-04 Thread Mr EMan
To test for exclusion, that is to exclude this from being a meteorite, my take is to determine the Specific Gravity ranges of Irons and the range for Ataxites. Conduct a SpGr analysis on the specimen. I would use distilled water given that it has been exposed already but if one chooses not to,

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) ebay and the dragon

2007-12-14 Thread Mr EMan
Steve you say that several People talked you out of selling it??? Oh.I seeGosh I was so wrong on that one. I thought that you canceled the auction just because the bid hadn't gotten over $181. I am so delighted that you cleared that up for us. Are any of those that you talked to about

Re: [meteorite-list] Neutron and proton release in large hyper-velocity impacts

2008-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Hello All, I believe Occum's Razor would suggest that any C14 spikes associated with impacts are more likely from enrichment while the asteroid is in orbit. As was mentioned previously, the C14 enriched region is concentrated at the asteroid's exterior which in turn is the material shed into

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics(OT)

2008-01-16 Thread Mr EMan
There is no evidence-- direct or inferred-- that the trace of the eastern shoreline of North America is impact influenced. While much of what you relate is sequentially correct it co-mingles 700+ million years of geological history into a related event. The Connecticut River Valley is a rift

Re: [meteorite-list] Does this sound like possible bolide breaking up?

2008-01-17 Thread Mr EMan
Doesn't SOUND like a bolide. It sounds like NOTHING as in NO SOUND was reported ergo, it fails to meet the criteria for bolide. The report of lights turning into flames is very weak evidence of a meteor entry. These UFO reports rarely talk about sounds such as sonic booms even thought they

Re: [meteorite-list] Back to real meteorite subjects - iron inclusions ...crystals

2008-01-18 Thread Mr EMan
Just to jump on the me too bandwagon, I have a clean pentagonal-shaped cavity in a small Gao I got from Al Lang 8 years ago. The cavity is at least 10mm across and as deep. I was hoping I could keep going through Al's stash to find the missing crystal but nada. The shape is distinctly sided as

[meteorite-list] Return of Red Rain

2008-01-24 Thread Mr EMan
Just when you thought it was safe again to walk in the rain http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080122_red-rain.htm Eman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] MeteoriteWatch.com Meteorite Giveaway

2008-02-05 Thread Mr EMan
Return of Son of sSteve now showing... sigh... MrEman Deja vue all over again...Yogi Berra --- Eric Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MeteoriteWatch.com Meteorite Giveaway Hi all, I'm giving away another meteorite. I'll be giving away a very nice NWA 869 nicely fusion crusted

[meteorite-list] Paleo Finds?

2008-02-15 Thread Mr EMan
Greetings Listoids, Anyone have a count for the number of confirmed fossil/ paleo meteorites thus far identified? Elton __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] The mainly late Spring and February statistics?

2008-02-17 Thread Mr EMan
I believe there is a cluster of falls in late Febuary and also in mid to late April but I am relying on memory and did this research 10 years ago. Be it remembered that 3:pm would tend to captuer slower total velocities comeing away from it's solar pass. Elton --- chris aubeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: U.S. To Shoot Down Defunct Spy Satellite

2008-02-17 Thread Mr EMan
How do the skeptics know that the attack will come from below and not from above? Eman Thinking outdside the box __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Sales page update - New Rare Material

2008-02-29 Thread Mr EMan
Very nice selections, Mike. My favorite there is The cutie IQTY. This is a unique and often under appreciated stone. Worth a visit alone to see this uniquely structured stone. Regards, Elton --- Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Evening, I have added some exceptional specimens to

[meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

2008-03-03 Thread Mr EMan
Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate caption please defend it. Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain High School, confirming the weight of a fresh, ORIENTED 32.6 kg chondrite??? http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html This is too early for April 1st. To let bad

[meteorite-list] meteorites vs meteoritic shale and Ebay Dealer wannabes.

2008-03-03 Thread Mr EMan
So as to not even broach a flame war should any of the parties be reading ergo actual identities will not be revealed. This broad issues are accuracy in descriptions and do we hold self-proclaimed dealers to a higher standard of knowledge. The narrow issue is when are weathered chunks of stuff

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTATION Re: March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

2008-03-04 Thread Mr EMan
Agreed and put far better than I, Darryl-- and that was the point to my post-- not attacking anyone and definitely not attacking anyone in particular. When oriented is unquantified then anything and everything could be oriented. I can't download the Dave sent me but I am comfortable that he did

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Sikote Ailin

2008-03-04 Thread Mr EMan
Hello E.P--It was more dynamic than a single disruption. If I recall, there were 14-17(?) or more major explosive disruptions. Each should have produced a separate swarm of fragments. Be it remembered that ALL fragments born of these swarms were shrapnel-shaped if but for an instant before

Re: [meteorite-list] Further thoughts-Observations

2008-03-20 Thread Mr EMan
I have to respectfully disagree Doug. I'd agree more with you had I not witnessed it myself. I believe there might be an unconsidered chemical source to drive an explosion. The Maryville Bolide(1983), which I was lucky to observe may have been an aberration from the norm on several levels( e.g.

[meteorite-list] AD: ISO Lawrencite Cleanup

2008-03-24 Thread Mr EMan
This is an AD-- sort of-- but I am looking for a service, someone with experience and time to try to save my pallasite and iron specimens from Lawrencite Infestation. When I was upended and rolled over in the August accident (Re; New Strewn Filed in PA) my various collections were jumbled, many

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) Meteorite Rental Service.....was meteorite sale

2006-07-21 Thread Mr EMan
humm ever think of just RENTING specimens? Seeing that some collectors buy meteorites one week and are selling them the next, I am offering a rental /recycling service for meteorite specimens. This way your collection can be ever changing without all the hassle of telling your wife that you

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: ibitera slice

2006-08-19 Thread Mr EMan
Sure! I can sell you some of the vesicles from my Ibitera for US$66.66 Shipped. Anyone read Merchant of Venicem lately? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for small slice [under $100) of ibitera with vesicles apparent. Am I dreaming? Thanks Jerry Flaherty

[meteorite-list] Round Rocks from Osceola, Missouri Impact Site

2006-08-20 Thread Mr EMan
In the auction link below there are a parcel of highly spherical rocks, which were probably shaped mechanically over time--naturally or otherwise. Not by asteroidal collision. (Simular stones are formed in natural potholes-Nature's own sphere grinder) Looking beyond the assumptions of the

[meteorite-list] Re: Round Rocks from Osceola, Missouri Impact Site

2006-08-20 Thread Mr EMan
Interesting follow up note as I Google about trying to visualize the dynamics and avoid broaching the T word--tektite. The article below speaks of them being shale kernals which upon falling back into the melangue over time became chert concretions. I also noted that one of the affected

[meteorite-list] Volcanic Rocks in Minnesota / Eastern US

2006-08-20 Thread Mr EMan
A few years back there was a question on the list as to the possible presence of volcanic rocks in Midwestern (US) glacial moraines. I presume that this was to help scope out potential sources of igneous rocks which might be identified as meteorwrongs. I asserted then, that there were no

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Mr EMan
Copper does excite to green however in this case the source is more likely nickel Elton --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are more sensitive to green, that is true, but does not the emmision of green spectra in a burning object mean that there is some form of copper in it? CharlyV I

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]

2006-08-23 Thread Mr EMan
Welcome back, Walter I'd like to point out that my original comment was intended to desuggest copper in favor of nickel. We who have done blowpipe mineral studies tend to think in that framework. Several years ago on my farm outside Ft Benning, Georgia I saw 2 nearly identical fireballs in the

Re: [meteorite-list] moss/kakangari

2006-08-27 Thread Mr EMan
--- Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also like geoff notkin said,my piece came mike farmer and has NO,and I mean NO moisture at all. Not even a speck of drool ? Come on Steve--fess up! (grin) Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list

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