Re: [meteorite-list] Nice iron meteorite unclassified

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting to discuss Anne, It is true it is a gamble sometimes buying
unclassified material, especially as there are so many unusual achondrites
turning up these days that look like terrestrial rocks. But in a way that's
the point. There has been so much new research into these rocks so as the
desert hunters are spotting these rocks that do not fit the local geology
and offering them up unclassified then it's often worth the gamble..indeed
some are sending them direct to institutions more and more because so many
are turning out to be unusual metoeites. .that's how so many of these new
types are being found and those offering them and those taking the gamble
are contibuting so much to research in recent times.

I gambled on buying an unclassied NWA a few years back in Ensisheim that
looked as if it may turn out to be a CM and I wanted another larger CM to
replace others I'd let go for research, one being a 54g Murchison. It sat
in my collection for a while and then I decided I'd get the classification
done to confirm what I thought. Indeed I was wrong as when I cut it, it
looked like no other carbonaceous meteorite I'd seen before. I took it to
be classified and eventually it turned out to be a unique ungrouped
carbonaceous specimen. I donated extra and eventually more work will be
done to investigate further. So not only did I and the seller end up
helping to discover something new and contribute something extra to
science, I gained a very special piece for my collection.

All classified material was once unclassied and somebody had to take a
gamble on getting the work done, either as finder, buyer or researcher.
There is a danger in buying unclassified material but in the end it comes
down to how experienced the buyers and sellers are. It's unlikely to turn
out well if an inexperienced collector buys from a new or unknown seller.

Graham

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 1:46 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
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> Hello Ed,
>
> Thank you for asking. To me buying an unclassified meteorite is like
> buying a lottery ticket, maybe you will be lucky, maybe you won't, I have
> been dealing with meteorites for nearly 30 years and I have seen too many
> very good meteorwrongs. Do you remember Shirokovsky?  And even if it is
> really a meteorite, what type is it?  Imagine buying a mass of Portales
> Valley without knowing about the metal veins in it. Or a Tarda or a
> Murchison as "just" an unclassified but  probably carbonaceous chondrite.
> You would miss so much, meteorites are not just interesting rocks, they
> come a long way and have so much more to tell us.
>
> As for aesthetics, I certainly agree and I hate to see meteorites chopped
> in crumbs, but it only requires 20g and it can be done so as not damage the
> meteorite. Here is an example, I am sure you can see where it was cut, but
> I think you will agree that it does not damage the look of the meteorite,
> and yes it is now in the Met.Bulletin, it is Burns, an octahedrite IIIAB:   
> MPOD
> 131231 from Tucson Meteorites
> 
>
> MPOD 131231 from Tucson Meteorites
>
> 
>
> I certainly hope that I answered your question. Thanks.
>
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>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 11:01:50 AM MDT, Ed Fernandez <
> e...@digitaldaydreams.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Anne,
>
> I am very curious why you say this should be classified? As a collector, I
> prefer to buy irons that are intact and have not been cut. I am ok buying
> something unclassified and taking some risk on it. Just curious as to your
> thoughts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed
>
> On Mar 18, 2024, at 9:03 AM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you for your responses on the Met. List.
> Why is this new iron not classified?  It should be classified before you
> start to sell it.
>
> Anne Black
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>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 08:37:22 PM MDT, Benzaki Mohamed via
> Meteorite-list  wrote:
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>
> Hi all the liste members  hop having a great time.
>  I present a nice iron 5kg.4 unclassified amateures sales slices) tested
> and  etched a slice for sale a good price please everyone interested
> contacte me thanks.
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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Trickery - How to exclude China from search results

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That's wonderful Michael...many thanks for sharing that. Very useful.

Graham

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> Hi Listees and Collectors,
>
> A long time ago, eBay gave you more options for filtering a seller's
> location in the results.
>
> Now, you can search the US, North America, Worldwide, or within a
> specified mile-radius distance. You no longer have an option to search
> by country or to easily exclude China from results. Ordo you?
>
> I used to like searching just European dealers, but if you try that
> now, your only option is to select "worldwide" and wade through a ton
> of Chinese listings.
>
> I found a way around this by deconstructing the URL of a given set of
> search results.
>
> Let's try it.
>
> I searched for "meteorite" with "US Only" selected for the item
> location. The URL of the results is :
>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=meteorite&_sacat=0=nc&_odkw=meteorite+-tektite&_osacat=0&_sop=10_PrefLoc=1_All=1
>
> A lot of junk there that is not of interest to us. But, notice the
> string of characters "PrefLoc" - this stuck out to me. PREFerred
> LOCation methinks. The value is set to "=1", so I started changing
> this number.
>
> Apparently, the following numbers are valid :
>
> 0 = no change?
> 1 = US
> 2 = Worldwide
> 3 = North America
> 4 = no change?
> 5 = EU
> 6 = China
> 7+ = error
>
> Changing the "=1" to "=5" brings back only items located in Europe
> with no Chinese listings!
>
> Any number higher that 6 results in an "invalid item location" error.
>
> Enjoy!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Small, earth-impacting asteroid/meteoroid videos now showing up online

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Apologies for the last message. I misinterpreted the initial predictions
and it does appear to have been heading the other way and AMS has it
terminating near the coast slode to Dieppe and FRIPON even closer...other
models now showing that indeed it may have dropped material on land. Good
luck to my friends heading there for a search.

Graham

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 3:55 PM Chris Peterson via Meteorite-list <
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> It was heading generally eastward over the Channel and was still burning
> when it crossed the French shoreline. It is likely to have dropped
> meteorites on land.
>
> Chris
>
> ***
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> On 2/14/2023 3:29 AM, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > It was heading from France and terminated it seems just as it reached the
> > channel so likely everything is in the sea if it did drop anything. Not
> > seen any predictions that it made landfall in France or the UK. So close
> > and yet so far.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:27 PM Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list <
> > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Nice!   :-)
> >>
> >> On Feb 12, 2023, at 11:10 PM, Matson, Rob D. [US-US] via Meteorite-list
> <
> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A small (~1-meter) asteroid that astronomers have been tracking for
> >> several hours earlier today crossed over the English Channel one hour
> ago
> >> (3:00 UT 13 February) and broke up over the coast of Normandy. Many
> videos
> >> of it are already appearing on the web. Here’s one taken from Brighton,
> UK
> >> (south coast of England) looking across the channel toward France:
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/KadeFlowers/status/1624967147708420103
> >>
> >> Should be numerous meteorites on the ground – the meteoroid was at about
> >> 40-km altitude at the point it crossed the French coastline north of
> >> Saint-Martin-aux-Buneaux, so nearly all of it should be over land.
> --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Small, earth-impacting asteroid/meteoroid videos now showing up online

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

It was heading from France and terminated it seems just as it reached the
channel so likely everything is in the sea if it did drop anything. Not
seen any predictions that it made landfall in France or the UK. So close
and yet so far.

Graham

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>
>
> Nice!   :-)
>
> On Feb 12, 2023, at 11:10 PM, Matson, Rob D. [US-US] via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> A small (~1-meter) asteroid that astronomers have been tracking for
> several hours earlier today crossed over the English Channel one hour ago
> (3:00 UT 13 February) and broke up over the coast of Normandy. Many videos
> of it are already appearing on the web. Here’s one taken from Brighton, UK
> (south coast of England) looking across the channel toward France:
>
> https://twitter.com/KadeFlowers/status/1624967147708420103
>
> Should be numerous meteorites on the ground – the meteoroid was at about
> 40-km altitude at the point it crossed the French coastline north of
> Saint-Martin-aux-Buneaux, so nearly all of it should be over land.  --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] odd cloud, print error, meteor?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I think some sort of error on the photo as it continues at top similar to I
have had in the old wet dark room years back...but does make you think of
Medvedevs painting :-)

G

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 8:09 AM drtanuki via Meteorite-list <
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>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-Dam-Construction-c-1910-MORAN-WYOMING-Teton-County-REAL-PHOTO-CARD-/134059182860?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mauro Ianeselli

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for letting us know Francesco...he was always a memorable figure in
Ensisheim. Will miss seeing him there...sad news.

Graham

On Sun, 12 Dec 2021, 18:58 Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list, <
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> I'm really sorry to inform all the  meteoritics friends that today our
> friend Mauro Ianeselli passed away.
> He was one of the most enthusiast meteorite collector and communicator. He
> has a superb collection with a lot of remarkable samples, but above all He
> loved to communicate his passion for meteorites to everyone, with him I
> setted up several exposition and done a lot of conference for the public
> here in Italy.
> Many of you have met him at Ensisheim and Munich shows.
> Today our community lost one of its most vibrant members.
> Goodbye Mauro!
>
>
> XX
> Francesco
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Re: [meteorite-list] 4.6 billion-year-old meteorite found in horseshoe footprint

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

It's a miracle this delicate CM2 survived 3 weeks in a field full of horses
and muddy ground. I was with Derek when he called me over and asked what I
thought of the muddy stone deep in the bottom of the footprint. The only
way you could tell it was a meteorite was because it had been broken by the
horses hoof and part of the pristine black centre was showing. I was
astounded. Just a tiny part of the irridescent crust showed on one edge
through the mud coating that confirmed to me what it was. I have a small
part of it now in my collection. A magical moment in hunting for
Winchcombe. Derek also captured the meteor and it's spectrum on his all sky
camera and got the permissions to hunt that area. A wonderful story for him.

On Mon, 16 Aug 2021, 19:08 Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list, <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Paul, that's neat.
>
> I,like many others, have found meteorites out at Holbrook that were either
> inside cow hoof prints, or in the dried mud that squirted up from a cow
> stepping.
>
> http://www.mikestang.com/user/cimage/HolbrookJuly2013-011.jpg
> http://www.mikestang.com/user/cimage/20180428_153736.jpg
>
> -Michael in so. Cal.
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
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> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 7:44 PM Paul via Meteorite-list <
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>
>> 4.6 billion-year-old meteorite found in horseshoe footprint
>> By Stephanie Pappas, Live Science
>>
>> https://www.livescience.com/rare-carbonaceous-carbonate-meteorite-found.html
>> The meteorite is a rare carbonaceous chondrite
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] MPOD and iPhone

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Same here.

On Mon, 9 Aug 2021, 06:29 Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list, <
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> Don’t know why I waited so long to post this, guess I thought I was the
> only one with the iPhone problem! LOL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 8, 2021, at 7:52 PM, Yahoo  wrote:
> >
> > Paul,  I am experiencing the same as you. I thought it WAS just my
> phone. Sorry it’s happening to you, too, but hopefully your post will lead
> to that being fixed, as it surely must be happening to many others as well
> I would guess. Thanks for sending the question.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 8, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Paul Kurimsky via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone besides me, that when I open daily Posted MPOD, they appear
> zoomed in on my iPhone, however ok on my IPad?
> >>
> >> This appears to have recently occurred about a month ago.
> >> Thanks
> >> Paul
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite picture

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Tassedet 004 ?

On Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:27 dean bessey via Meteorite-list, <
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> See two photos. Anybody have any guesses as to what it is or recognise it
> as paired with something? Very strongly magnetic - closer to an iron than a
> H chondrite
> Cheers
> dean
>
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/pictures/7454h.jpg
> http://www.meteoriteshop.com/pictures/7454i.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks found from November Sweden event?

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Does not seem fresh to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:53 PM Art via Meteorite-list <
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> I think i missed this somehow:
>
> How space rock hunters found these rare traces of a meteorite in Sweden
>
> https://www.thelocal.se/20210126/sweden-finds-its-first-meteorite-fragments-in-66-years
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

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That's how it appears at the moment but our government keep changing and
backtracking last minute on things so we will seealso many businesses
are in the dark as regulations on lots of things not clear or badly thought
out.

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 21:14 Anne Black via Meteorite-list, <
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> Thank you Graham.
> And basically, for anything above L135, no changes.
> Business as usual.
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list  >
> To: Paul Swartz 
> Cc: meteorite list 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2021 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements
>
> In my experience the import charges/duty/VAT have been applied quite
> randomly whether or not the seller declared a correct value or not in the
> UK.
> So sometimes I get charged and sometimes not. If stopped we then also get
> an extra charge from the shipping company for handling it too. So on small
> items the charges can be far more than what was paid for the item!
>
> To be honest that side of things in not a problem. It is the fact our
> government wants the sellers in other countries to register with the UK for
> VAT and do the collecting of tax for them at point of sale and then forward
> that to the UK quarterly for smaller items below £135 that does not seem
> sensible. Otherwise I think it stays the same if above £135 and the taxes
> are collected at our border customs.
>
> Graham
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:08 PM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
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> Current EU regulations state:
>
> Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate
> applicable in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are
> received for consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at
> the border, at the same time as customs duty and uses the price determined
> by customs.
>
> Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?
>
> A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS
> instead of having it deeply buried in Brussels.
>
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> >Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
> >From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com)
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> >Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

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In my experience the import charges/duty/VAT have been applied quite
randomly whether or not the seller declared a correct value or not in the
UK.
So sometimes I get charged and sometimes not. If stopped we then also get
an extra charge from the shipping company for handling it too. So on small
items the charges can be far more than what was paid for the item!

To be honest that side of things in not a problem. It is the fact our
government wants the sellers in other countries to register with the UK for
VAT and do the collecting of tax for them at point of sale and then forward
that to the UK quarterly for smaller items below £135 that does not seem
sensible. Otherwise I think it stays the same if above £135 and the taxes
are collected at our border customs.

Graham

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:08 PM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
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> Current EU regulations state:
>
> Goods imported from non-member states are subject to VAT at the rate
> applicable in the importing member state, whether or not the goods are
> received for consideration and the importer. VAT is generally charged at
> the border, at the same time as customs duty and uses the price determined
> by customs.
>
> Anybody - seller or buyer - been paying that so far?
>
> A good thing about Brexit is you can clearly see the governmental BS
> instead of having it deeply buried in Brussels.
>
> Paul Swartz
>
> >Topic: New UK VAT Requirements
> >From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com)
>
> >Isn?t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your ?freedom??
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

It's not the extra cost it's the hassle and work it makes for sellers
that's the problem.

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 20:27 Roberto Vargas,  wrote:

> Don’t most packages have a declared value of $10 (Rock Sample for Study)?
> Sounds like it’ll be a $2 VAT per meteorite?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> --
> *From:* Meteorite-list  on
> behalf of Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 1:15:50 PM
> *To:* MSG - METEORITES 
> *Cc:* p...@meteorite.com ; Michael Farmer <
> m...@meteoriteguy.com>; meteorite list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements
>
> Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then you
> are all ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!
>
> Graham
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
> wrote:
>
> Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in
> cheek and holding my head in my hands...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”
>
>
> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
> > outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
> > taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
> >  wrote:
> >> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Attention Dealers:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just received the following from stamps.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ---
> >>>
> >>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
> >>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
> >>>
> >>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
> >>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
> >>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
> >>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
> >>>
> >>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
> >>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
> >>> declarations.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ---
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Just make sure everything is over £135 that you sell to the UK then you are
all ok... ;-) Not so good for us perhaps!

Graham

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 4:53 PM MSG - METEORITES 
wrote:

> Oh and for anyone who doesn't know me, that was said with tongue firmly in
> cheek and holding my head in my hands...
>
> Martin Goff
> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:51 MSG - METEORITES, 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but we have 'sovereignty' now and Blue passports...
>>
>> Martin Goff
>> www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
>> International Meteorite Collectors Association (IMCA) member #3387
>>
>> Sent from my mobile phone
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 16:46 Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list, <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn’t Brexit wonderful! Congrats on your “freedom”
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 9:13 AM, Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/uk-vat/#what-do-i-need-to-do-as-a-merchant
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2021 6:34 AM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> > Wait. So, let me get this straight. Does this mean that vendors based
>>> > outside the UK will have to register with the UK authority and pay
>>> > taxes on orders going from the USA to the UK?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 1/12/21, Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >> Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
>>> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Attention Dealers:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I just received the following from stamps.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> ---
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for
>>> all
>>> >>> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
>>> >>> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g.
>>> eBay,
>>> >>> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
>>> >>> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
>>> >>> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
>>> >>> declarations.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> ---
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Paul
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> __
>>> >>>
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>>> the
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Re: [meteorite-list] New UK VAT Requirements

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Crazy mess Boris is leading us into. :-(

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM Paul Harris via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Attention Dealers:
>
>
> I just received the following from stamps.com
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Effective Jan 1, 2021, value added tax (VAT) must be collected for all
> goods entering the United Kingdom (UK).
>
> There will be a 20% VAT rate on goods valued up to £135 (about $180
> USD), which you must collect unless your online marketplace (e.g. eBay,
> Amazon, Etsy, etc.) is already collecting it. Current procedures for
> goods valued over £135 remain the same.
>
> To prevent your UK shipments from being delayed, held, or returned
> by UK customs in 2021, please take the following steps:
>
> 1. Register for a VAT number with the UK.
>
> 2. Collect VAT at the time of purchase.
>
> 3. Make quarterly VAT return payments to the UK.
>
> In addition, you should include your VAT number on your customs
> declarations.
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Galactic Analytics content?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Marc,

Increasing content and discussion on the metlist would not be a bad thing
anyway I think. I'd be happy to see posts there. Probably less likely to
miss news of falls from you  there than on Facebook.

Graham

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 5:01 PM Fries, Marc D. (JSC-XI211) via
Meteorite-list  wrote:

> Howdy all
>
>
>
>   For the past several years I’ve run Galactic Analytics on
> Facebook.  It has been a freely available forum to discuss meteors and
> meteorite falls, and a convenient site for me to disseminate radar data
> showing potential meteorite falls.  When I started this, Facebook was an
> open forum for all participants. Unfortunately, Facebook has recently
> enacted policies which restrict the uncensored flow of content between one
> end of the political spectrum in particular.  I cannot support censorship,
> as it is a form of oppression.  I have shut down Galactic Analytics (but
> will retain old content on Facebook for the time being) and am looking for
> a new, open venue to host content.
>
>   Most of the options include starting up some new platform,
> which has the drawback of adding yet another source for interested parties
> to keep track of.  However it occurred to me that we can use this as an
> opportunity to consolidate sources.
>
>
>
>   What would you all think if I were to start posting GA
> content on the Meteorite List?  When an event occurs I can post it here.  I
> will have to find a server to host images but that is do-able.  Be advised
> that it may increase MetList traffic by a sizable fraction.
>
>
>
>   What do you think?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc Fries
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Anyone else finding that the picture of the day does not load up?

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 9:10 AM Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Today''s Meteorite Picture of the Day: Toluca
>
> Contributed by: Tomasz Jakubowski
>
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=12/19/2020
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling's Obituary

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks Sean,

All I can say is that I cannot begin to put words together that describe
our sadness on his passing, the difference he made to our lives and the joy
of knowing Dave. He will live on forever in our memories.

Graham and Manda.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 3:20 AM Sean T. Murray via IMCA 
wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I've posted this on Facebook...  but for those of you that are not on that
> page, below is the obituary for Dave and the URL for the funeral home.
>
> ---
>
> Dave B. Gheesling, age 53, of Roswell, GA, passed away on Wednesday,
> November 11, 2020.  He was born on June 8, 1967 in Decatur, Georgia, the
> son
> to Barry Gheesling and Sheilla Gheesling.
>
> Dave graduated from Georgia Tech in 1989 with a Bachelor of Business
> Administration degree.  He began his career selling industrial equipment
> before becoming involved in the flooring industry.  He worked at both
> Mohawk
> Industries and Abbey before founding FloorExpo Inc., today known as FEI
> Group.
>
> Dave was a man of extraordinary talent. He was an accomplished public
> speaker, educator, and an expert marksman.  Personal fitness was a
> priority,
> and he was an accomplished author of numerous publications and books.
> Dave
> was a lover of all things related to space and collecting meteorites was
> his
> passion.  His collection, Falling Rocks, is one of the largest and most
> impressive collections in private hands. Dave was an inspirational leader,
> mentor to many, and loved by all.
>
> Dave met his life partner, Kasia, at a coffee shop and they shared six
> plus
> years of happiness together.  Raising a blended family, they enjoyed
> sharing
> precious moments and adventures together with family and friends.  Family
> was most important to Dave and he considered his friends to be a part of
> his
> family.  He was an incredible father, son, brother, uncle, partner, and
> friend.  He was a father figure to many, and he will be deeply missed.
> His
> life, influence, and legacy will forever remain in the lives of all who
> knew
> him, and we will all cherish his memories as we gaze to the heavens.
>
> He is survived by his loving family: Kasia Sutton; children; Willow, Katy,
> Maddie, Natalia and Marcus; parents, Barry Gheesling and Sheilla
> Gheesling;
> brother Brad Gheesling and his wife Kara and his niece and nephew Suzanna
> and Shannon; uncles, Bob Green and his wife Pat, and Clayton Gheesling and
> his wife Karen, along with a host of friends from all over the globe.
>
> Please visit roswellfuneralhome.com to leave condolences to the family.
>
> ---
>
> Also, on a personal note -- I have been deeply touched by the outpouring
> of
> support, condolences, stories and pictures regarding Dave over the last
> three days.  I can’t tell you how much that has meant to his family.
> Thank
> you for all of the emails, texts, calls, posts, pictures, and the awesome
> video & song from the Big Kahuna (Mahalo!).
>
> At times, we may think we are only an eclectic community of collectors,
> but
> this is an example of how much more we really are -- this is an awesome
> group of family and friends.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Lovely tribute Gary.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:47 PM Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Just a humble tribute to Mr Falling Rocks
>
> https://youtu.be/_T-obxcklnk
>
> Gary Fujihara
> Big Kahuna Meteorites
> PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI  96720
> (808) 640-9161
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html
>
> > On Nov 12, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Darryl Pitt via IMCA 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > For those who didn’t know Dave, focus on Sean’s words and deeply believe
> him. Dave’s positivity, generosity of spirit and capacity for friendship
> and love are a marvel. For those who know Dave, you know precisely what I
> mean.
> >
> > Might I suggest we give an extra kiss to those we love as the fates can
> be capricious — and rarely more than they are right now.  This
> heartbreaking news has brought me to my knees and take pause.
> >
> > With heartfelt condolences to all those bereaving this sorrowful,
> inconceivable turn.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Sean T. Murray via IMCA <
> i...@mail.imca.co> wrote:
> >>
> >> Folks,
> >> It’s with a heavy heart that I write to the meteorite community this
> evening.
> >> Dave Gheesling passed away yesterday (11/11), and we’re all trying to
> process the sudden loss.  He was my best friend.  I don’t have the words to
> express how much he meant to me, how much he influenced my life, and how
> blessed I was to have known the man.
> >> Dave’s love of family & friends, his positivity, his generosity and his
> enthusiasm for life are the example he has left for us all.  Dave has been
> an important part of our community, and his contributions will live on as
> his legacy for many decades to come.
> >> I apologize for the abruptness of an email communication, but we were
> only able to contact a few people this evening, given the hour.  Please, if
> you need anything, contact me directly so that we can give Dave’s family
> the time they need to prepare for the service.  I will post more details as
> they are available.
> >> Yours,
> >> Sean Murray
> >> 678-367-7095 (cell)
> >> --
> >> “Our respective fates here on planet Earth are all inevitable. Sooner
> or later - and whether we like it or not - each of us will eventually
> assume room temperature. Seemingly against all odds, we are born, we
> experience a few decades on the big ball (if we're lucky), then we die. Our
> atoms are once again stirred back into the terrestrial soup, and that's
> about all she wrote.”
> >> -- Dave Gheesling, August 2009
> >> http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Sean,

I just can't express what a shock this is. I cannot imagine what has
happened. Dave was such a wonderful, welcoming, warm hearted friend.
Thoughts are with family and you all out there.

Graham and Manda

On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:57 AM Sean T. Murray via IMCA 
wrote:

> Folks,
> It’s with a heavy heart that I write to the meteorite community this
> evening.
> Dave Gheesling passed away yesterday (11/11), and we’re all trying to
> process the sudden loss.  He was my best friend.  I don’t have the words to
> express how much he meant to me, how much he influenced my life, and how
> blessed I was to have known the man.
> Dave’s love of family & friends, his positivity, his generosity and his
> enthusiasm for life are the example he has left for us all.  Dave has been
> an important part of our community, and his contributions will live on as
> his legacy for many decades to come.
> I apologize for the abruptness of an email communication, but we were only
> able to contact a few people this evening, given the hour.  Please, if you
> need anything, contact me directly so that we can give Dave’s family the
> time they need to prepare for the service.  I will post more details as
> they are available.
> Yours,
> Sean Murray
> 678-367-7095 (cell)
> --
> “Our respective fates here on planet Earth are all inevitable. Sooner or
> later - and whether we like it or not - each of us will eventually assume
> room temperature. Seemingly against all odds, we are born, we experience a
> few decades on the big ball (if we're lucky), then we die. Our atoms are
> once again stirred back into the terrestrial soup, and that's about all she
> wrote.”
> -- Dave Gheesling, August 2009
> http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Odp: Hamburg H4 organics?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Also I am aware of recent studies finding amnio acids in halite inclusions
in Zag and at least one other.

Graham

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 14:08 Tomasz Jakubowski via Meteorite-list, <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello Kevin
> that is not a first manuscript report organic matter in OC, see Polish
> hammer Soltmany :
> http://meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/issues/2/schmitt-koplin_et_al.pdf
>
> Hope that will help.
>
>
> All the best
> Tomasz Jakubowski
> collectingmeteorites.com 
>
> Dnia 29 października 2020 18:04 Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> napisał(a):
>
> Team Meteorite:
>
> First off , congratulations to Roberto Vargas' for his acquisition of a
> most fabulous specimen of Tarda C2 UNGROUPED.
>
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=10/27/2020
>
> Now I wonder what 'organics' were discovered on Hamburg H4 as noted in the
> popular media. Wouldn't this auspicious finding be mentioned in the Met
> Bull?
>
>
> https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=hamburg=names=contains=50=ge==United+States=name=All=All0=Normal%20table=66772
>
> Kevin Kichinka
> 110" of rain YTD...
> ...and it's still falling on my Persian Lime trees...
>  due south of Aguas Zarcas, Costa Rica
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Modern Burnishing

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I saw that too Paul. I think I saw it once before a while back, being
offered. I have never seen this shaping before either. Very unusual, but I
would guess it must be terrestrial weathering influenced by some sort of
internal structure...e.g. perhaps melt. I took the phrase "modern
burnishing" to be that it had been cleaned in some way to remove
calichebut a vague description.

Graham

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:42 AM Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Want everyone's opinion / on this highly unusual morphology.
> I don't doubt it is a real meteorite at all just that one side looks
> altered
> or is HUGELY UNIQUE
> Christies is currently selling it and gives a cryptic explanation for its
> shape as "Modern burnishing"
> What the hell does that mean exactly?
> they also mention it could be naturally ventifacted.???
>
> Either way I have never seen anything quite like it in the meteorite world.
>
> Anyone else have an explanation ... please chime in on this.
>
>
> https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/deep-impact-lunar-rare-meteorites/evoking-sculpture-ken-price-exotic-meteorite-morphology-nwa-13203-38/82821
>
> Thanks
> Paul Gessler
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Re: [meteorite-list] 50mm Sphere Collection - I am at an Impasse

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi David,

Seen your spheres many a time over the years and they look fantastic.
Probably the best time ever price wise to get a lunar one done. Then what
about an HED or an L3 or CV3? :-)

Graham

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:11 AM David Deyarmin via Meteorite-list <
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> Some of you may remember my collection is focused on 50mm meteorite spheres
>
>
>
> I started this collection in 2006 and so far I have collected 19 meteorite
> spheres and 6 meteorite related spheres
>
>
>
> I would like to add to me collection finding suitable material to make a
> 50 mm sphere has become difficult
>
> Part of my enjoyment is add new specimens to my collection but that does
> not look feasible so I am at an impasse
>
>
>
> Be patient and hope for additional material to become available, sell the
> collection instead of just letting it sit on my shelf and collect dust for
> the next 3 decades, let it just sit on my shelf till I die and then donate
> it to a museum
>
>
>
> Here is a list of what I have, images available if you email me directly:
>
> URUACU
>
> SIKHOTE ALIN
>
> CAMPO DEL CIELO
>
> BRAHIN
>
> CANYON DIABLO
>
> DRONINO
>
> GIBEON
>
> TOLUCA
>
> SEYMCHAN
>
> DHOFAR 1289
>
> GHUBRA
>
> NWA 791
>
> MWA 869
>
> ZAG
>
> NWA 8529
>
> GAO-GUENIE
>
> DHOFAR 1724
>
> NININGER
>
> BLACK ONAPING
>
> JANISJARVI
>
> NWA 2828
>
> BONDOC
>
> DINOSAUR BONE
>
> ZHAMANSHIN
>
> GUANG DONG
>
> LIYAN GLASS
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Peter Marmet Meteorite Thin Section Collection Volume 1 and 2

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Excellent work Peter.

Graham

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:22 PM Peter Marmet via Meteorite-list <
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> Hello.
>
> I’m happy to announce that my two books are available now:
>
>
> https://www.blurb.de/b/10176033-the-peter-marmet-meteorite-thin-section-collectio
>
>
> https://www.blurb.de/bookstore/invited/8750214/5ba63f9dd0d9d9e441bf0b34769ccaade7816c91
>
> The two volumes show more than 1000 meteorite thin sections in cross
> polarized light. Many of them also in plane polarized light.
> Volume 1/2: 406 pages; volume 2/2: 410 pages
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Mike2364 not 2634???


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 7:56 PM Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list <
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> Sorry but NWA 2634 is a ureilite
> https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=31128
>
>
>
> Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020, 8:08 AM, Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Today''s Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 2364
>
> Contributed by: Solar Anamnesis
>
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=06/17/2020
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Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting and Sub-noteworthy Preprints from the arXiv Preprint Archive

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Had to check if it was April 1st for a second then. :-)

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020, 22:00 Paul via Meteorite-list, <
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> Some interesting and sub-noteworthy preprints from the arXiv preprint
> archive.
>
>
>
> Barnes, J.W., O'Brien, D.P., Fortney, J.J. and Hurford, T.A., 2002.
>
> Superiority of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (LPL) over
>
> Steward Observatory (SO) at the University of Arizona. arXiv
>
> preprint astro-ph/0204013.
>
> https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002astro.ph..4013B/abstract
>
>
>
> Morzinski, Katie M., and Jared R. Males. "On the influence of the
>
> Illuminati in astronomical adaptive optics." arXiv preprint
>
> arXiv:1203.6708 (2012).
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.6708
>
>
>
> Schoch, Daniel. "Gods as Topological Invariants." arXiv preprint
>
> arXiv:1203.6902 (2012).
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.6902
>
>
>
> Armstrong, E., 2012. Non-detection of the Tooth Fairy at Optical
>
> Wavelengths. arXiv preprint arXiv:1204.0492.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.0492
>
>
>
> Tippett, B.K., 2012. Possible bubbles of spacetime curvature
>
> in the South Pacific. arXiv preprint arXiv:1210.8144.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144
>
>
>
> Rachen, J.P. and Gahlings, U.G., 2013. Conspiratorial cosmology-
>
> the case against the Universe. arXiv preprint arXiv:1303.7476.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1303.7476
>
>
>
> Kane, S.R. and Selsis, F., 2014. A Necro-Biological Explanation
>
> for the Fermi Paradox. arXiv preprint arXiv:1403.8146.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146
>
>
>
> Scott, D., Frolop, A., Narimani, A. and Frolov, A., 2015. A
>
> Farewell to Falsifiability. arXiv preprint arXiv:1504.00108.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1504.00108
>
>
>
> Lund, M.B., 2016. Astrology in the Era of Exoplanets. arXiv
>
> preprint arXiv:1603.09496.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1603.09496
>
>
>
> Frolop, A. and Scott, D., 2016. Pi in the sky. arXiv preprint
>
> arXiv:1603.09703.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1603.09703
>
>
>
> Armstrong, E., 2017. A Neural Networks Approach to
>
> Predicting How Things Might Have Turned Out Had I
>
> Mustered the Nerve to Ask Barry Cottonfield to the Junior
>
> Prom Back in 1997. arXiv preprint arXiv:1703.10449.
>
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.10449
>
>
>
> The above list is modified from "Fake Physics: Spoofs,
>
> Hoaxes and Fictitious Science by Andrew May.
>
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
>
> Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

No link?

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> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Sikhote Alin
>
> Contributed by: Paul
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Re: [meteorite-list] More USA Lunar meteorite strewn fields, ... again

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

This part of his own write up on these seems to be spell out pretty well
what he is up to.  ;-)

"Also, meteorites can be worth a lot of money, and you know, when there's
big money involved, you can count on lies and deception."

Graham

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:04 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
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> Good grief
> I see a lot of quartz and some granite. Nothing that remotely resemble
> lunar meteorites.
> Did you try to explain that to him?
>
> Thanks for warning us.
>
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Murray Paulson via Meteorite-list <
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> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Thu, Dec 5, 2019 10:35 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] More USA Lunar meteorite strewn fields, ... again
>
> Found this enterprising person selling river rocks at a good profit...
>
>
> https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/NHLUNARMETEORITES?ref=simple-shop-header-name_id=756282243
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fractional Classification of LL3's

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Kevin,

As far as I can make out, talking with other researchers, then it can/will
be done but takes extra time and work and thus many just get given the 3
designation rather than do all that work to divide it up even
more...although if one is suspected as a 3.00 then I imagine it is worth it
or if the presenter of the specimen pays for the time and effort to do the
work.

Graham

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:57 AM Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list <
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> Team Meteorite:
>
> A couple of years ago it seemed that researchers were no longer going to
> sub-divide LL3 mets to classifications like 'LL3.05' or 'LL3.10', or I
> suppose the most primitive one of LL3.0'.
>
> Can someone clarify this issue for me?
>
> And regards to Zsolt Kereszty while referencing his acquisition of
> NWA12692 LL3.00
>
> "Here is the MetBull page of the NWA12692 LL3.00 meteorite:"
>
> https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=70116
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

1.78kgs it seems...his book with it on the cover is all here and weight
shown inside...

http://www.woreczko.pl/meteorites/references/ref_Catalogs/Haag-2003.pdf

Graham

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:50 PM Tim Heitz via Meteorite-list <
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> Hi List,
>
> Does anyone know how much Bob Haag's Adamana (VENUS STONE) weigh?
>
> Does anyone have one for sale?
>
> All the Best,
>
> Tim Heitz
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Heart-shaped' meteorite - Worth more than my house in Costa Rica?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Kevin...not sure it made it to the end...seemed like it was pulled early
on.

Graham

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:50 AM Kevin Kichinka via Meteorite-list <
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> Team Meteorite:
>
> (Not yet for sale) - Lux 1/1 120m2 *cabina* on 1750m2 of mountaintop at
> 1000m altitude in western Costa Rica. Perfect, always spring-like climate.
> Coffee removed and replaced with multiple tropical fruits and grafted Haas
> avocados thriving on manicured terraces sloping down to rain forest. Sits
> on huge aquifer generating endless water. Best sunset views in the country
> (Pacific Ocean). Separate rancho for witnessing Scarlet Macaw fly-overs and
> up to a dozen toucans sitting in the next tree. Double, concrete-block
> garage built to same earthquake-resistant standards as house and designed
> to be two more bedrooms and bath. Quartzite countertops, marble shower and
> coral-rock fireplace. Spanish floor tiles, wood ceiling beams throughout.
> The 17th century window 'bars' copied from a cathedral in Nimes, France
> were crafted by the same Italian brothers that did these on my first home
> here, 'LaQ'. Fifteen running meters of panoramic windows rise up to the
> 4.5m high ceilings, offering dramatic close-up views of mountains
> cascading-to-the-sea. Property located at the end of a dirt road and is
> hidden behind block wall for complete privacy (and security). Sat and cable
> TV, high-speed internet.
>
> But in the always slow CR real estate market full of such 'trophy
> properties', getting $300,000 cash, same as the expected low-bid on the
> Iron meteorite Darryl offered for V-Day, would be difficult.
>
> Does anyone know what the Iron brought at last week's Christie's auction?
> Curious
>
> Saludos a todo.
>
> Kevin Kichinka
> mars...@gmail.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Man killed by meteorite ?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I very much doubt this is true as there would not be an audible explosion
for an impact pit that size...the meteorite would only be falling at
200-300mph and would only make a thud noise ane especially not injure
anyone badly nearbysome other explosion I expect has caused
this...unless the meteorite hit a gas pipe or similar perhaps...but doubt
itno photos of the rock and probably just a coincidental terrestrial
rock nearbylook out for oither reportsand if anyone knows what the
1925 incident was then I would be most interested as not heard of that
before either?

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> https://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/man-killed-by-meteorite-in-india/
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] relationship between CV and CK

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting stuff Dustin. I need to read more...if I find other info or
studies I let you know. Helping at the moment with materials for a parent
body study but it does not include CVs or CKs at present.

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019, 17:08 Dustin Dickens via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

> Hello dear meteorite mavericks and mavens,
>
> It has been a while since I have posted to the list. I needed to test
> to see if my account was working before I posted an ad, but thought
> why waste the electrons and decided to test it with a topic I have
> been intrigued with lately; the relationship of the CK to the CV
> carbonaceous chondrites.
>
> Is anyone currently working on this? I would enjoy learning what
> direction you think the latest data / research is pointing. Based on a
> recent 2016 paper, see ref below, what I had thought was a relatively
> well established isotopic relationship between the CV and CK
> chondrites, pegging them to the same parent body, now seems to be in
> question.
>
> This paper raises significant issues with magnetite compositional
> differences in the unequilibrated CK and the CV, as well as "Oxygen
> fugacities and temperatures in the CV-ox - CK". This seems difficult
> to reconcile with some of the previous research I have read on this
> topic. I am hoping others might be interested in learning more about
> this, and discussing it a bit.
>
> "Magnetite in the unequilibrated CK chondrites: Implications for
> metamorphism and new insights into the relationship between the CV and
> CK chondrites Tasha L. DUNN1*, Juliane GROSS2,3, Marina A. IVANOVA4 ,
> Simone E. RUNYON5 , and Andrea M. BRUCK6" Meteoritics & Planetary
> Science 1–20 (2016) doi: 10./maps.12691
>
>
> https://geology.rutgers.edu/images/Dunn_et_al-2016-Meteoritics__Planetary_Science.pdf
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Dustin Dickens
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Re: [meteorite-list] The "Doorstop Meteorite" from Michigan has been classified as "Edmore"

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks John and Mike,

First I've seen that this batch is publishedmany others in the pipeline
from my expeditions/personal finds and a few purchases. Hopefully can get
them all properly catalogued now with the in situ photos etc.

Graham

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 4:50 PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
> Thanks once again. I'll assume Luc and Graham are
> happy with your post as well.
> John
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list" <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 11:07 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The "Doorstop Meteorite" from Michigan has been
> classified as "Edmore"
>
>
> Hi List,
>
> Some of you likely recall a suspected meteorite that hit the news
> recently. It was being used as a doorstop on a farm in Michigan and
> the owner/media was attaching some astronomical values to it. Well, it
> was finally classified as "Edmore" and it is indeed a legit iron
> meteorite.
>
> There were also several approvals today in the bulletin, including a
> Labenne find from Chile (a pallasite) and some of Graham Ensor's OC's.
>
> Edmore Met Bull link -
> https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=68667
>
> Met Bull update link -
>
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>
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Re: [meteorite-list] food for thought KFC meteorite

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Don't think we have to wrry too much...looks nothing like a meteorite to me?

Graham

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:11 PM Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
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> I hope they used a Nantan so it will quickly rusted away on the "lucky"
> buyer.  :-((
>
> Anne Black
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list  >
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2018 6:39 pm
> Subject: [meteorite-list] food for thought KFC meteorite
>
> This is so Beautiful
> I can't wait to hear what you all think of it?
>
> https://bgr.com/2017/07/13/kfc-meteorite-zinger/
>
> Paul Gessler
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor sighting in Sydney, Australia (video)

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Very promising...reminds me of the Peekskill meteor videos...wonder who has
a hole in their car boot. :-)

Graham

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Jack via Meteorite-list <
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> Hey list,
>
> This might be of interest, especially since it contains video footage.
> It's a week old now but I don't see that it was shared on here before.
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-05/meteor-flying-over-syd
> ney-captured-on-dashcam/10075236
>
> Cheers,
> Jack
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Re: [meteorite-list] Toxic Giant Hogweed Spreading - Warning to Meteorite Collectors

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Just learn to recognize it...which is pretty easy because of it's size...it
is a notifiable plant here in the UK but never thought of it as any more of
a problem than loads of other poisonous plants and fungi I see near
here...learn to live with nature I sayand teach your kids to do the
same, just as I was as a child.

Graham

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:14 AM, Tommy via Meteorite-list <
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>  Yup, just read an article on this plant. Nasty stuff.
>
> Regards!
>
> Tom (Hudson valley of N.Y.)
>
>
>
> On 07/02/2018 06:20 PM, Paul via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Although the below article do not specifically mention
>> meteorite collecting, it discusses a nasty, hazardous
>> plant, that meteorite collectors and anyone either collecting,
>> working or playing in the outdoors need to be aware of
>> and avoid.
>>
>> 'Horror Plant' causes 3rd-degree burns, blindness,
>> is spreading in Upstate NY (photos)
>> By Ben Axelson | baxel...@nyup.com June 26, 2018
>> https://www.sciencealert.com/invasive-toxic-giant-hogweed-bu
>> rns-skin-blindness-virginia-clarke-county
>> https://www.newyorkupstate.com/expo/news/erry-2018/06/f2e509
>> cfd11171/horror_plant_causes_3rddegree.html
>> https://nypost.com/2018/06/17/this-plant-causes-3rd-degree-b
>> urns-permanent-blindness/
>>
>> Yours,
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Article About A Chinese woman who hunts for meteorites in the Gobi

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Good story...thanks for sharing.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:17 AM, Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list <
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> Hi All,
>
> Don't know if this story has been posted here before -- sounds like a
> pretty successful young lady:
>
>  meteorite-hunter-who-greets-and-shelters-chinas-visitors-
> cosmos?utm_source=emarsys_medium=email_content=
> 20180618_campaign=scmp_china=190131336_src=
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim!

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for the info Anne...also looking forward to seeing everyone again
and all the goodies...I may have a few meteorite etchings from the Seymchan
Stephen Hawking edition for folks to see.

Graham

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Thank you to all of you who responded to Zelimir and me.
> And who are planning on coming to Ensisheim.
>
> But there is one problem you really need to be aware of:  the French
> trains on still on strike!
> To make it more complicated they work 3 days, are off 2 days, back at work
> 3 days, off 2 days. and repeat until the very end of June, at least.
> And I am told by family and friends in France that even on their working
> days, the whole system is quite chaotic, to put it mildly. So you might
> want to keep that in mind, and start looking for Plan B.
> I know I am!!!
>
> And here is a link to the calendar of those striking days:
> https://www.lci.fr/societe/calendrier-sncf-greve-
> reconductible-avril-mai-juin-2018-planning-dates-
> previsions-trafic-tgv-ter-rer-transiliens-trafic-ponts-de-
> mai-lundi-7-mai-28-juin-2081815.html
>
> Good luck!!!
>
> Anne Black
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>
>
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> From: Greg Hupe 
> To: Anne Black ; meteorite-list  meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Mon, May 7, 2018 9:30 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim!
>
> Thank you for forwarding the info for Zelimir, Anne.  I look forward to
> setting up my table once again, never know what I'll bring this years. ;-)
> I
> think this may be my 10th year selling at the Ensisheim Show!
>
> I look forward to seeing everyone there, always a family of friends
> dealing
> in meteorites and enjoying French cuisine and spirits.
>
> See you all soon!
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg
>
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Anne Black via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 3:35 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim!
>
> Hello all List members
>
> The Ensisheim Show is barely 6 weeks away, and here is everything you need
> to know about it directly from the organizer, Zelimir Gabelica.
> Please email him very soon if you have questions. Or you can email me and
> I
> will try to answer them.
> -
> 19th “ENSISHEIM METEORITE 2018” Show news for dealers (May 02, 2018)
>
> Dear meteorite friends,
>
> As already announced earlier this year, the 19th meteorite show is
> exceptionally and provisionally moved to another nearby building, due to
> important work being done in the Palais de la Regence where an elevator is
> being installed. This works will not be finished until early in 2019.
> This clearly supposes that next year, the Show will by all means take
> place
> again in the unavoidable Palais de la Regence Palace to celebrate in a
> worthwhile manner the 20th anniversary of the Show.
>
> Unfortunately, the genuine Ensisheim meteorite, normally in the Regency
> museum, will not be visible this year, but a life-size plaster cast will
> be
> displayed in the Gymnasium hall.
>
> The address of the provisional show hall is:
>
> Gymnase Communal, 20, Rue des Tourterelles, F-68190 ENSISHEIM.
>
> The new “Sports Complex” is located in the middle of a large park, about
> 250
> m (« as the crow flies”) from the Palais de la Regence.
>
> The map (see attachment) is showing the Gymnasium location in respect to
> the
> Palais de le Regence. Just follow the arrows if you are walking or driving.
> The previously announced itinerary through the Rue de Colmar is also
> correct
> but not advised because of street works.
>
> The 2 main buildings (the Gymnasium and the Elisatia halls) as well as the
> parking places will be clearly signposted.
>
> The “Gymnase Communal” consists in a large 40 x 20 m sports hall where all
> the tables are aligned along the walls and also in two double rows
> surrounding the middle “Consignment Room” including a small bookshop table.
> Something resembling the Munich show layout.
>
> All tables (still 160 x 80 cm) are equivalent but barely lit by sunlight
> through skylights so additional lights of your own are strongly
> recommended.
> Please bear in mind that only LED bulbs are acceptable, with a maximum
> power
> of 100 watt per table. Other bulbs are henceforth prohibited.
>
> I will try to arrange the layout of the tables as it was in the main
> Regency
> room, respecting 

Re: [meteorite-list] Recently found Algerian Iron

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I have seen this around for quite a while now and on offer from many
sources...are you sure your source is the real owner...any others have info
on this one?

Graham

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:51 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list <
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> Hello All,
>
> Finally have some good news to report.  Some fellow meteorite-hunters have
> contacted me to report that they have recovered a 255kg iron from the
> Sahara Desert in Algeria. This was well before April Fools Day, and the
> photos of it in-situ and "oiled-up" are very convincing.  I immediately put
> them in contact with an officially-approved institution here in USA for
> classification.  Apparently, they declined to cut this wonderful-looking
> and huge mass of iron (and no smaller masses have been found), until after
> they have a confirmed buyer. I probably should say "buyers", because I feel
> it will take a "consortium" of buyers to meet their asking price of
>
> $2/gram.
>
> The finders have already received a number of offers, but nearly all were
> bogus.  That's why they came to me to help them with filtering-out the
> scammers.  So, when I say that I will only forward "serious offers", I'm
> serious.  And, this is the limit of my involvement with this find.  That,
> and helping to get this iron classified and made "official".
>
> You can see some of those photos here:
> http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2018/apr18.htm
>
> If seriously interested, please contact me off-List.
> Thank you for your time, and I hope you enjoy the photos,
> Bob V.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Questions About NWA 7034, "Black Beauty" Pairing

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I was told it is mythical.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:06 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Does anybody know the disposition of the 3 kilogram plus pairing to NWA
> 7034, the Basaltic Martian Breccia sometimes referred to as "Black
> Beauty?"  Has it been been cut yet?  Has a laboratory analyzed it or is it
> just another self-paired stone? $300,000.00 or $100.00/gram for the entire
> stone is a bit much but I would be interested in a kilogram at this price
> if it has been confirmed in a laboratory and is available.
>
> I was hoping it would have shown up cut in Tucson but I did not hear
> anything more about it so canceled any thoughts of going to the show last
> month.
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated,
>
> Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] newbie question

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Lloyd..."stable" refers to a meteorite which under normal circumstances
does not deteriorate rapidly due to mainly humidity and oxidation...usually
of the Nickel Iron contained within the sample. Some meteorites almost self
destruct in any conditions where moisture from the air can come in contact
with the matrix. Mostly controlled by keeping them dry using desiccant in
cabinets or boxes or dehumidifiers...coating sometimes help but can
sometimes trap moisture and make the situation. An example might be the
pallasites Brahin and SeymchanBrahin tends to be very unstable and ends
up as a pile of rust and olivine in many collections if not strictly
comtrolled whereas Seymchan tends to be much more stable and can withstand
higher humidityinstability can vary in the same types/classification
depending on the types of ground they have been lying in for years before
being found...e.g. some Campos. When iron in meteorites starts to rust and
ooze out brown liquid it is called Lawrencite disease.

Thumbprints are the various shaped dimples often found in ablated surfaces
of meteorites due to the variations either of the matrix or plasma ball
around the meteorite in hot flight...the technical name is
"regmaglypts"the patterns and size of these varies depending on the
size of meteorite and the orientation...they can be quite random or just
cover small parts of the fusion crusted areasif the meteorite stays
oriented and does not tumble then these regmaglypts can form flowing
elongated dimples travelling away from the leading face of the meteorite.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Meteorit_Cabin_Creek_nhm-Wien.jpg

http://www.culture24.org.uk/science-and-nature/art74972

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumbprint_(disambiguation)#/media/File:Murnpeowie_meteorite.jpg

Hope that helps...

Graham





On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Lloyd Alexander via Meteorite-list <
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> I have a couple questions that probably show my "newbie" stats but you
> can't learn without asking.
>
>
> What do "stable" and "thumbprints" mean?
>
>
> Lloyd W. Alexander
> Photographer, Painter, and Author
> @Lloyds_Journey
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Re: [meteorite-list] Blue Salt Crystals

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting research...I had the privilege of sitting in on the seminar
Queenie gave to peers about all this last year before it went to
publicationand Monahans was the other meteorite. Some interesting
discussions during the seminar testing out the robustness of the research
and with Monica Grady about the story around Monahans nearly hitting the
lads playing basketball.

Graham

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 1:59 PM, almitt2--- via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Paul and all,
>
> The blue halide crystals were found early on in Zag. I believe they
> were found in other meteorites (Monahans, Tx?) but information has a
> way of finding it's way back into the public eye. Don't have
> information handy right now but thought I would comment.
>
>  Yes, they were packed out by camel and the camel sweat story was a
> part of the story. Perhaps ET will comment as he brought out a number
> of specimens from this fall in 1998.
>
> --AL Mitterling
> Mitterling Meteorites
>
>
>  Quoting Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list
> :
>
>
> Blue Salt Crystals discovered in ZAG
>>
>> No wonder my large grapefruit  sized piece started oxidizing so
>>
> rapidly.
>
>> I remember the story was that the oxidation was caused by camel
>>
> sweat
>
>> while they were being transported out of the desert.
>> Anyone else remember that story???
>> what color is camel sweat?
>>
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/world/meteorites-organic-matte
> r-life/index.html
>
>>
>> -Paul Gessler
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Michigan Meteorite

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Greg,

Great thing to do with your daughter...sorry you did not find
anything...I'd say it's still worth going back and having another go...wish
I was as close.

To answer a few questions... The larger pieces would probably bury
themselves more but nearly all meteorites loose all there energy from space
during the hot flight to about 20km above ground and then freefall...so
they do not have a great speed when they hit the ground...the smaller
pieces are even skewed by the winds from the main line of the meteors
direction. If the ground is hard or is a frozen lake then these smaller
pieces would not penetrate far at all and may well bounce or sit on the
surface to be seen.deeper snow would be a problem and as with the
Chelyabinsk fall they would leave a small hole to look for if the snow had
stopped falling or driftingmany were found like that in Russia.

They are usually cold when they land and do not retain heat from the hot
flight which is stripped away in the plasma ball...the insides would still
be very cold and the air temps up at 20km are also very cold during the
freefall stage. If they sat for a while on hard snow or ice they may well
sink over time as the sun heats the black body up.

Hope that helps.

Graham

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Sam Sabba via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I sent a post in a few days ago but I think I caused confusion by sending
> it via my other email address that was not the one I registered with.
> Let's see if this works better.
>
> My 7 year old daughter begged me to take her meteorite hunting after I
> picked her up form school this past Wednesday.  My first reaction was to
> say no given the long odds, the cold, and the fact that she would miss a
> practice.  She persisted, and then I realized I was being a fool and only
> thinking of the effort and poor odds involved, and not of the journey and
> wonderful scientific lesson itself!  So we drove the 1 hour (easy compared
> to the travel time for the rest of you I see) and hunted a collection of
> Hamburg athletic fields.  We did not find anything, but had a good time in
> the process.  I see now that of course several pieces have been found
> (congrats to those that have found some).
> I am completely new to this, and I wanted to ask a few questions to
> satisfy my curiosity as well as my daughter's.  Now that the professionals
> are in town, we will not be bothering to try again. :)
> During our search, we had expected that any pieces would have gone down
> into the ground at least a little bit.  I however see that several of the
> pieces that have been found were just laying in the snow on top of a frozen
> lake.  Is it normal for pieces of a meteorite to not land with enough force
> to break through ice or even frozen soil?  Would they normally at least
> break through *unfrozen* soil, such as on a lawn or athletic field?
> Also, given the approximately 2 inches of snow we had on the ground here,
> would heat be produced from the meteorite itself or from it's impact that
> would have melted snow around it in any meaningful way?
> My daughter is probably doing her show-and-tell presentation at school as
> I type this (using a regular rock we found to represent the potential
> meteorite) so it is too late to provide her details for that, but we are
> both still curious.
> Thank you and good luck to those who will still be looking!
>
> Greg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Minerals

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Sorrylooks like the link was time limited and no longer available.

Graham

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 3:11 PM, <cdtuc...@cox.net> wrote:

> Graham, Link says error?
>
> --
> Love & Life
>
> ---- Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> wrote:
> > Interesting stuff eh! StirlingMore detail here sent to me by Mike
> Simms
> > who researched the Stac Fada impact site nearby...completely different
> ages
> > though.
> >
> > https://gsw.silverchair-cdn.com/gsw/Content_public/
> > Journal/geology/PAP/10.1130_G39452.1/1/g39452.pdf?Expires=
> > 1513383426=ZyJk~P3iSeKUu3s-lawkGc9gaNoDu29j1OneAf1oNYsd0g
> WAACyk~
> > RqaY9G2mf7U0BOz0q9iP4uX7aCuwFN9F5D4SfzlfdxfAz2~
> > QyIZSzi3AJlTY7hWi5KN6PU81dzRllNkRZFtXaNgYOti1sC~
> dIFVmvTjln9pvz0NaVeGwtLt~
> > nJkruZAtqajYsJQPa7hE~Uk4eEKLCJPdO3vrhm2pQySIcoJdxwi
> > 4I1rJtnH8gxvMssyVKMg7GLunpxu2vND5n3qOvQF3Sd8lktQuN5Sy1kwd0dSaHbU-
> > gfhsIUthlftQTYK7l7DVcglT80JZgarGAkf9nHWMt6CLtQgM-6hcw__
> > Pair-Id=APKAIUCZBIA4LVPAVW3Q
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list <
> > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >
> > > *Listees,*
> > >
> > > *"Alien Minerals Discovered *
> > > *at Ancient Meteorite Strike *
> > > *Site in Scotland**:"*
> > > *http://www.newsweek.com/skye-meteorites-alien-mineral-749103
> > > <http://www.newsweek.com/skye-meteorites-alien-mineral-749103>*
> > >
> > > *"Geologists have uncovered *
> > > *mineral forms never before *
> > > *seen on Earth at the site of *
> > > *a sixty million-year-old *
> > > *meteorite strike on the Isle *
> > > *of Skye in Scotland..."*
> > >
> > > *Sterling Webb*
> > >
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Minerals

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting stuff eh! StirlingMore detail here sent to me by Mike Simms
who researched the Stac Fada impact site nearby...completely different ages
though.

https://gsw.silverchair-cdn.com/gsw/Content_public/
Journal/geology/PAP/10.1130_G39452.1/1/g39452.pdf?Expires=
1513383426=ZyJk~P3iSeKUu3s-lawkGc9gaNoDu29j1OneAf1oNYsd0gWAACyk~
RqaY9G2mf7U0BOz0q9iP4uX7aCuwFN9F5D4SfzlfdxfAz2~
QyIZSzi3AJlTY7hWi5KN6PU81dzRllNkRZFtXaNgYOti1sC~dIFVmvTjln9pvz0NaVeGwtLt~
nJkruZAtqajYsJQPa7hE~Uk4eEKLCJPdO3vrhm2pQySIcoJdxwi
4I1rJtnH8gxvMssyVKMg7GLunpxu2vND5n3qOvQF3Sd8lktQuN5Sy1kwd0dSaHbU-
gfhsIUthlftQTYK7l7DVcglT80JZgarGAkf9nHWMt6CLtQgM-6hcw__
Pair-Id=APKAIUCZBIA4LVPAVW3Q

Graham

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> *Listees,*
>
> *"Alien Minerals Discovered *
> *at Ancient Meteorite Strike *
> *Site in Scotland**:"*
> *http://www.newsweek.com/skye-meteorites-alien-mineral-749103
> *
>
> *"Geologists have uncovered *
> *mineral forms never before *
> *seen on Earth at the site of *
> *a sixty million-year-old *
> *meteorite strike on the Isle *
> *of Skye in Scotland..."*
>
> *Sterling Webb*
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Curry In Jail

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Glad most of this saga is over for you all Blake...sounds very
stressful...hope this is the end of it.

Graham

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 3:38 AM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Holy S-it !
>
> I knew it was involved and intertwined but not to this extent...
>
> Safe everyone !
>
> John
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Blake via Meteorite-list" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:37 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Curry In Jail
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> Blaine wanted me to post this for him. I haven't posted anything before
> so I hope it works (and doesn't violate any rules) and I'm on the daily
> digest so I can't see responses right away.
> Blake
>
> Hello everybody!
>
> I am greatly RELIEVED to be able to announce the, likely permanent, end
> to the Curry/ and his fake meteorites saga. I thought of using “PLEASED
> to announce” but, really, it is a bit of a sad situation to watch
> someone completely destroy their life and some of the lives around them
> in such a delusional fantasy world as Curry has managed to do.
>
> Anyway, it seems that Mr. Steven Duane Curry is in jail in Alamogordo,
> New Mexico for the time being. After that, he has a (likely looong) jail
> date waiting for him in Colorado.
>
> I am going to give a long but still “Reader’s Digest” version of the
> past events that have led to this situation, not to publicly bemoan the
> problems my family and I have faced from this clown over the years (and
> there have indeed been many), but so others will have a better
> understanding of just how deep Curry is in do-do right now.
>
> Many of you know that I showed law-enforcement officials that Curry was
> publicly selling fake meteorites back in 2012. Most of you also know
> that he was convicted on three counts and was sentenced to 3 years in
> jail (though the jail folks decided it best to turn him loose after only
> 6 months once they did finally get their hands on him). Shortly after
> his conviction, he hit Blake, Linda and me with a civil lawsuit
> demanding $300 million in damages for his trial travails and “lost
> value” of his “meteorite collection”. Thankfully, (with the expert help
> of Eric Twelker – I was lost and drowning in this and probably would
> have gone on to loose the case if left completely to my own devices)
> this suit was thrown out of court in (fairly) short order. However while
> suing us, Curry had formed a big pile of “evidence” supposedly showing
> how we (Blake, Linda and I) were supposedly committing all kinds of
> heinous crimes (meteorite theft, money laundering, conspiracy, murder
> (of babies in Africa and US soldiers world wide -???), funding
> terrorism, and much more. He filed this pile of steaming dung with
> pretty much EVERY law-enforcement agency in the world he could (local
> police, sheriffs, D.A.s offices, state CBI, D.As, I.R.S., F.B.I., US
> Marshals service, the president (then Obama – who apparently sent Curry
> a letter thanking him for clueing him into this and that he’d look into
> it) and Interpol) demanding that the three of us be arrested and hung
> for treason. When it became clear to him that some law enforcement
> agency wasn’t going to swoop in and haul us away, he took things into
> his own hands.
>
> As some of you know, this Curry problem started with the direct aid and
> abetting of Curry and his B.S. meteorite story by the local Montrose
> public library and the local “news” paper – the Montrose Daily Press.
> Many of us did our best to inform these two “agencies” of the truth of
> the matter, but they refused to listen stating “Freedom of speech” (and
> the paper’s lead editor at the time – Justin Joiner - who I later found
> was a close personal friend of Curry’s – told me that he didn’t care if
> it was all B.S. – it was a local “feel good” story and he had no
> intention of burying it). Anyway, These same two entities then took it
> upon themselves to, once again, directly aid and abet Curry in forming a
> “Sovereign Citizen” (look THAT up if you want a real horror story in
> domestic harassment and terrorism) “justice” system. The library gave
> him the venue and the news paper hyped “come learn about Common Law
> Grand Juries” in one article and followed up with more along the lines
> of “come be a part of history and part of the common law jury” and
> “common law grand jury returns to Montrose”. Well, this news even made
> it to TV and radio. Blake and I heard about how this group could
> supposedly “overturn bad convictions, indict and prosecute wrong doers
> that the (real) system won’t” and more. Yep, we (Blake and I) instantly
> knew who was behind this. It was indeed Curry and he and his group did
> indeed supposedly “indict” the three of us for treason and were to be
> hauled away at gun point and hung for treason. At this point, I felt it
> necessary to spend a bunch of money to 

Re: [meteorite-list] Enough

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Should read "selling" not welling...sorry.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Graham Ensor  wrote:

> Strange how that thread deteriorated from what looked suspiciously like a
> series of ads for welling through an auction without saying in the title
> into a completely different argument...LOL
>
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>
>> AMEN!
>>
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>> >From: Garry Stewart via Meteorite-list > al.com>
>> >Sent: Nov 5, 2017 1:10 AM
>> >To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough
>> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Enough

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Strange how that thread deteriorated from what looked suspiciously like a
series of ads for welling through an auction without saying in the title
into a completely different argument...LOL

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> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Newfoundland Meteorite

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Just too funny...:-)

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Robert Verish via Meteorite-list <
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>
>
> Dean,
> You neglected to mention the more "entertaining" article:
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/
> meteorite-hunters-southside-hills-1.4370650
>
> Priceless,
> Bob V.
>
>
>
>
>
> On ‎Wednesday‎, ‎October‎ ‎25‎, ‎2017‎ ‎12‎:‎08‎:‎53‎ ‎PM, dean bessey via
> Meteorite-list  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/
> meteorite-meteor-space-unidentified-object-st-johns-
> south-side-hills-1.4368296
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mid October Meteorite Anniversaries

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting that Oum Drega and Bassi fell exactly 3 years apart not too far
from each other.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
Meteorite-list  wrote:

> Mid-Late October Meteorite Fall Anniversaries (since Jan 01, 2000) :
>
> October 16, 2003 - Oum Dreyga (H3-5 chondrite), Rio de Oro
> October 16, 2006 - Bassikounou (H5 chondrite), Mauritania
> October 17, 2012 - Novato (L6 chondrite), California, (Hammer)
> October 23, 2012 - Izarzar (H5 chondrite), Morocco
> October 23, 2015 - Creston (L6 chondrite), California, (Hammer)
> October 28, 2004 - Kaprada (L5/6 chondrite), India
> October 30, 2012 - "Addison" (ordinary chondrite?), Alabama
> October 31, 2006 - Demsa (H6 chondrite), Nigeria
> October 31, 2016 - Dingle Dell (LL6 chondrite), Australia
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

You say"It is up to dealers to prove what they are selling is
legitimate, not collectors/buyers after the transaction.  Why should a
buyer have to ask for provenance and the chain of custody directly to the
person named in a Meteoritical Bulletin? It is up to dealers to provide
this information up front.  Who in their right mind would pay top dollar
for untested and unclassified stones being put on the market as planetary
pieces?"

The answer to that is that you would Adamthat is exactly how you first
bought in numerous rare pieces from NWA and then got them classified and
published. You then sell them with a link to the Bulletin and thus the
scienceno more chain of provenance than that. Just your own and lab
certification.

This is exactly what I see happening at the moment with many other dealers
and even just collectors now...they are all doing the same as you did and
proudly bringing new material to science and the collectors market. I see
nothing wrong with that and I do not see all this so called fraudulent
material on the market. If you are seeing this meteorwrong or terrestrial
breccia material being sold by the dealers we would be very glad if you
could share links with us to that material or self paired so we are aware
of it and can decide ourselves. (Please let us know how you know it is
terrestrial breccia). I would certainly telling people. I called one
leading dealer out recently because they were saying the red coating on
some recent lunar was fusion crust and thus rare when it is actually desert
soil when examined at the lab and easily cleaned off. There are always a
few amateurs and fraudsters, not well known dealers...trying on...but you
seem to be saying more than that.

I admit people have to be careful when buying and need to see that the
material has been analysed at the lab if being sold as a classified type.
Those buying unclassified material have to take the risks like you and I
have always done and then it stays unclassified unless we make the effort
to donate parts and get the science done.

I just don't see what you are seeing and many other dealers are me asking
what you are talking about...please share something concrete with us if you
are seeing this. It is important for the confidence of the market in
general.

Graham







On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> It is up to dealers to prove what they are selling is legitimate, not
> collectors/buyers after the transaction.  Why should a buyer have to ask
> for provenance and the chain of custody directly to the person named in a
> Meteoritical Bulletin? It is up to dealers to provide this information up
> front.  Who in their right mind would pay top dollar for untested and
> unclassified stones being put on the market as planetary pieces?
>
> If a dealer is too lazy to follow protocol then why should he/she be
> rewarded? There is no value added by simply reselling untested stones that
> are accompanied with stolen nomenclature and Meteortical Bulletin entries.
>
> Professionals see it as there is no such thing as an unclassified lunar.
> It is either lunar or it is not.  There is no gray area. That is like
> somebody placing quartz (Herkimer Diamonds) on the market and trying to
> sell them as an unclassified natural diamonds. There are over 167,000 loose
> diamonds being offered on eBay.  Guess how many are real?  Most educated
> prospective buyers will not consider a stone without GIA certification.
> Buyers learned the hard way when spending thousands of dollars for
> worthless paste.
>
> I see terrestrial breccias being offered up as lunar material on a
> consistent bases thus the acid test. If it fizzes or you cannot get a
> direct chain of custody to the classifying laboratory, you may consider
> asking for an immediate refund.  Save your hard earned money.  There is
> something to be learned from other markets where buyers have been stiffed.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/9/2017 2:55 AM, Graham Ensor wrote:
>
>> I'm afraid it works the other way round too Adam...you would have to have
>> a piece analysed by an expert to say what you are saying rather than just
>> look at the pieces to see and conclude what they are. Every single piece of
>> my lunar has been to the leading lab specializing in meteorites in the UK
>> and been recorded, weighed and analysed to show it is lunar. I have the
>> write up and science write up submitted for classification if you wish to
>> see it. It is likely part of this new bigger find this year and matches the
>> other material around that I see for what that is worth.
>>
>> Which reputable dealers are you accusing of selling the lunar material
>> you think is not lunar by just looking at it? I'm sure you should pass that
>> information on to help the community.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 

Re: [meteorite-list] It's Been a While

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great to hear from you again...look forward to seeing the spheres again.


On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I hope it cuts well too.  You should post a link to your sphere
> collection, it's really cool!
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 8:31 PM, bobadebt--- via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> > Hello to everyone
> >
> > I think the last time I posted was around 2014.
> >
> > Been real busy with work and other things.
> >
> > But I have been actively trying to grow my collection of 50mm Meteorite
> > Spheres.
> >
> > I am up to 20 and I may have finally found a Mesosiderite that is large
> > enough to produce another sphere for my collection so hopefully it will
> be
> > number 21
> >
> > Ruben hooked me up with a 1500 gram Bondoc and I look forward to it’s
> > arrival.
> >
> > I just hope it cuts well.
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] R: help me in understand analysis

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I'm afraid it works the other way round too Adam...you would have to have a
piece analysed by an expert to say what you are saying rather than just
look at the pieces to see and conclude what they are. Every single piece of
my lunar has been to the leading lab specializing in meteorites in the UK
and been recorded, weighed and analysed to show it is lunar. I have the
write up and science write up submitted for classification if you wish to
see it. It is likely part of this new bigger find this year and matches the
other material around that I see for what that is worth.

Which reputable dealers are you accusing of selling the lunar material you
think is not lunar by just looking at it? I'm sure you should pass that
information on to help the community.



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> A lot of the garbage being sold as lunar meteorites by so-called reputable
> dealers will not even pass the fizz test.
>
> http://geology.com/minerals/acid-test.shtml
>
> Collectors are being fleeced out of thousands of dollars by terrestrial
> limestone breccias, some of which can be found in the Atlas Mountains near
> an impact structure. I would avoid or ask for a refund on any material that
> fizzes on a cut surface! I remember seeing the same crustless, caliche-rich
> material offered up at the Tucson Gem and Mineral show several years ago
> for $50.00/gram. Now it is being offered on eBay and other venues due to a
> somewhat similar appearance to genuine Lunar meteorites. I do not know if
> refunds were given to those who purchase this terrestrial material in the
> past or not.
>
> This is but one example of why all stones suspected as being planetary
> should be formally tested and classified.
>
> If in doubt, throw it out or demand a refund.
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Re: [meteorite-list] In rare instance, lunar shadow cast on piece of moon during the eclipse

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Paul...I spotted them earlier and commentednice shots Paul...the
shadows were wonderful.

Graham

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Paul Gessler <cetu...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
> Well I couldn’t resist doing something with the eclipse also.
> Here are my efforts from that beautiful day
>
> I posted it to Paul Swartz’s
>
> Meteorite Picture of the Day: Eclipse on Meteorites
>
> here’s the link:
>
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=09/23/2017
>
>
> Cheers:
> Paul Gessler
>
>
> 
> -
> 
> -----------------
>
> From: Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:36 PM
> To: Adam Hupe
> Cc: metlist
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In rare instance, lunar shadow cast on piece
> of moon during the eclipse
>
> Ha!...interesting to see another use of a lunar during an eclipse
> Adam...if you have lunar meteorites and you are going to an eclipse it has
> to be done :-)
>
> Graham
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> It is interesting how list members think alike.  I viewed a complete lunar
> eclipse through a piece of NWA 5000 on February 20th, 2008 and the solar
> eclipse through the same piece on August 21st, 2017 starting at 10:00 am.
> I also made a pinhole projector so that not only could I view the eclipse
> through the slice of NWA 5000, I could project the eclipse through it.  My
> images are not very clear since it was partially overcast here in Nevada
> during the eclipse but it was still visible.
>
> Images of Solar Eclipse viewing:
>
> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/NWA5000Slices/Eclipse-a.jpg
>
> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/NWA5000Slices/Eclipse-b.jpg
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Adam Hupe
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Re: [meteorite-list] Beware

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

S! don't tell everybody that's where all the action is Mike LOLI
too thought I would never get involved in social media and sometimes wonder
why I did because of all the time it takes up...but talking with all manner
of folks about your favourite things and sharing links and thoughts etc is
actually great...you just have to treat everybody the same as you would if
you physically met them down town or on the bus and you can usually work
out who is genuine or not. There's always going to be the nutter on the bus
that sits next to you now and thenand that is probably much worse than
it happening on facebook.



On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:06 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
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> I think half of the people online are not what they claim to be.
>
> It's not just a Facebook thing.
>
> As a dealer, it's foolish to ignore social media. Lots of fee-free
> money to be made there. Although, if I was only a collector, I would
> likely stay away from social media entirely. It's a lot of hassle and
> nonsense, but it's worth it if you are making good sales.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/21/17, Tommy via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> >Yet another reason not to be on facebook.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On 09/21/2017 07:43 PM, robert via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >> Please be aware of Nabil Karti on Facebook or Kingdom meteorites. Post
> >> fake meteorites claims to work for Aerolite Meteorites. He's friends
> with
> >> 43 people in the community. Pretends to be a woman
> >>
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] In rare instance, lunar shadow cast on piece of moon during the eclipse

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Ha!...interesting to see another use of a lunar during an eclipse Adam...if
you have lunar meteorites and you are going to an eclipse it has to be done
:-)

Graham

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>
> It is interesting how list members think alike.  I viewed a complete lunar
> eclipse through a piece of NWA 5000 on February 20th, 2008 and the solar
> eclipse through the same piece on August 21st, 2017 starting at 10:00 am.
> I also made a pinhole projector so that not only could I view the eclipse
> through the slice of NWA 5000, I could project the eclipse through it.  My
> images are not very clear since it was partially overcast here in Nevada
> during the eclipse but it was still visible.
>
> Images of Solar Eclipse viewing:
>
> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/NWA5000Slices/Eclipse-a.jpg
>
> http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/NWA5000Slices/Eclipse-b.jpg
>
> Best Regards,
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] In rare instance, lunar shadow cast on piece of moon during the eclipse

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Was a great day... :-)


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> http://www.mdjonline.com/news/lifestyle/in-rare-instance-lun
> ar-shadow-cast-on-piece-of-moon/article_302673ca-9a74-11e7-
> 9d97-6bfa4e7a8ef7.html
>
> Regards!
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Not All Lunar Meteorites Are Equal

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting if true David but in 20 years of collecting I've come across
this scenario many times where "authorities" and people new to meteorites
think they have unique material...always it has turned out to be wrong once
the respected scientists who regularly work on meteorites get
involvedgood luck though...always here to answer questions if
possiblebe careful.

On 8 Sep 2017 09:54, "Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list" <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Then your guy is smoking some really good weed.:)
>
> These Chinese crack me up.
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:02 PM, David Tann  wrote:
> >
> > Mike, I didn't make it clear, a syndrome I suppose when you try to type
> a quick email on a crowded commuter train in the peak hours of the morning.
> >
> > I'm London based, new to meteorites collection as you would have
> gathered. This reliable source of mine in China has around 40kg Nantan
> amongst a few of his private collector friends. The rest of the 9.5 tons he
> claims were either with Chinese authorities (museums, unis and government
> run parks) or have been secretly traded abroad particularly in around 1985.
> >
> > The much bigger thing however is his claim of a massive amount of non
> magmatic meteorites embedded and intertwined in stones, even I know that
> would be something really big if proven genuine. They reckon, with
> archeologists and geologists' help, those meteorites were from Mars and
> crushed to earth 65m years ago! Needless to say, if this was true it would
> be something so astonishing that no one would have even dreamed of! The guy
> told me they spent over £1m to protect the secret site and transported the
> massive discovery to a private place in Beijing. They also used small
> samples of these as "medical stones" in treating some rare disease and
> apparently it worked!
> >
> > The reason I say he is reliable is that he is introduced to me by my
> best friend in China who is at the vice ministerial level, he would not
> introduce anyone doggy to me as a friend that's for sure. The guy himself
> also has other very high level connections. But of course the only sure way
> is to independently verify things, hence my approaching you guys in the
> first place.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 7 Sep 2017, at 14:50, Michael Farmer  wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you joking? There are tons upon tons of Nantan. I've sold nearly a
> half a ton.
> >> I have a 92 kilo one sitting in Beijing and much more sitting in Tucson.
> >>
> >> Michael Farmer
> >>
> >>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 1:13 AM, David Tann  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Mike, I'd go even further in saying sadly 99% of the
> "meteorites" circulating freely in and from China  are terrestrial rocks!
> The real Nantan meteorites in private collection are extremely rare, a
> total of around 40 kg. There is also a rarer type of meteorites intertwined
> with and inserted into earth rocks indicating high impact
> crushing/explosion. I'm happy to be proven wrong but as I said I have
> reasonable cause to believe my source to be reliable and genuine, although
> it's going to take me sometime to completely verify and document both
> types. I would naturally like to have the samples tested. I was hoping you
> guys would be able to test and analyse the composition of the samples for
> me, but I'll probably approach the Natural History Museum.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On 6 Sep 2017, at 20:47, Michael Farmer 
> wrote:
> 
>  David. Sorry but I do mineral shows in china. Everyone has a nice
> stamped paper from one Chinese government source or another. Actually your
> piece certainly looks like Nantan meteorite. Sadly Nantan is nearly
> worthless.
> 
>  Michael Farmer
> 
> > On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:55 AM, David Tann  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Mike & Adam, for your valuable comments which I fully
> understand and much appreciate. Fake meteorites and scandalous traders were
> indeed acknowledged as a big problem in China, much like elsewhere.
> >
> > I do however have reasonable confidence in the authenticity of the
> meteorites as they were from no ordinary tom dick and harry but a trusted
> and reliable source with high level connections in China; and they had been
> assessed by professionals and academic experts from the Chinese Academy of
> Sciences as genuine.
> >
> > However, I'd like to have these and a great deal more independently
> tested and verified in the UK. Could you advise on how to go about that
> please?
> >
> > Thank you in advance, your help is much appreciated.
> >
> > David
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 6 Sep 2017, at 16:52, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> People are 

Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen specimens from Eduardo jawerbaum collection

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

So sorry to hear of this Eduardo...will keep mu eyes peeled. hope you have
some success getting them back.

Graham

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:37 PM, eduardo jawerbaum via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hi
> While I was in Tucson, several specimens from my collection were stolen.
> Listed here are the meteorite related ones, but also minerals and
> archaeological items were taken.
> You can see some photos in facebook:
> www.facebook.com/eduardo.jawerbaum/media_set?set=a.
> 10212891073661772.1073741938.1537830863
>
>
> Meteorites Class Weight (g) sizes (mm) Crust% Observations
>
> BINGOL Howardite Individual 8,05 26x18x12 90 ORIENTED shiny glassy surface
>
> MARJALAHTI PAL PMG sliceP 22.2 50x40x3
>
> ST. MICHEL L6 Fragment 29.5 40x40x3-13 5-
>
> SYLACAUGA H4 Fragment 0,52 9x8x4 0
>
> JILIN H5 End Piece 35,76 48x30x15 50
>
> NEW ORLEANS H5 Fragment 2,287 15x13x9 0
>
> TAZA Iron Ungr Plessitic Octahedrite End Piece 84.4 80x33x13 w/rad.Kamac.
> needles and large inclusion
>
> NWA 5358 Brachinite slice 5,92 38x27x1,5 25
>
> NWA 6484 Lodranite slice 4,63 37x28x1,5 90
>
> NWA 7397 SHE Enriched Permafic Poikilitic Individual 4,53 17x17x8 85
>
> Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 19,1 30x22x15 graphite nodule
> w/metal
>
> Campo del Cielo IA MG Og 3.0 Individual 3g 17x14x7? graphite nodule w/metal
>
>
> Keris. ceremonial knife made of meteorite from Bali. Original  15th
> century. 42x8cm
>
>
> tectites-impactites
>
> Australit v.Lent Individual 0.65 From Hugh Howard collection
>
> Australite v.boat Individual 2.586 31x11x5 oval oriented. Excellent
>
> Australite vFlangedButton Individual 2.536 20x20x7 near perfect 1mm scratch
>
> Australite vFlangedButton Individual 3.194 21x19x9 incompl. Aprox 80%
>
> Bediasite Individual 5.61 20x14x13
>
> Moldavite Individual 11.2 50x23x9 100
>
> Moldavite Individual 13.1 33x27x12 100
>
> Moldavite Individual 6.5 33x32x8 100
>
> Moldavite Individual 6.7 80x21x6 100
>
> Moldavite Individual 1.626 18x16x9 with hole
>
> Moldavite Individual 0,668 18x10x3 with hole
>
> Moldavite Individual 10,77 41x23x7 0
>
> Moldavite Individual 5,57 31x20x9 with flow lines
>
> Rizalite-Phillipinite Tektite 272 55x55x50 0 excellent deep ribs all around
>
> Amerikanite/Colombianite pseudotektite Individual 14.1 27x23x18
>
> Belemnite del Ries Crater impactita Individual 2.77 32x8x6 sliced/melted
> form meteorite impact
>
> Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 9 32x27x10
>
> Darwin Glass Impactita Individual 2,3 22x12x10
>
> Tektite v. Batong Anag impactite Individual 49,12 49x33x26 0 "stone from
> the ants
>
> Wabar Pearl of Al'Ad Impactita Individual 0.64 12x9x5
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 18.3 3x2x2
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 11.8 about 70mm drop shape
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 67.4 about 70mm plane disc
>
> Indochinite Tektite 87.7 11x3 bone sized
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 23.8 35x25x25 twisted drop shape
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 28 60x30x14 flat striated drop shape
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 30 40x38x25 with gastropod
> impression?
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 12 43x25x9 Muong nong
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 36 39x36x20 round with rare center
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 57 85x40x23 round with rare center
>
> Indochinite Tektite Individual 5,71 45x15x9 remaglipted drop
>
> Indochinite v.Drop Tektite Individual 13.2 58x13x14
>
> Indochinite v.MUONG NONG Tektite Individual 48.6 65x45x20 layered tektite
>
> Phillipinite Individual 46.7 35x33x28
>
> Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 17.3 60x30x10 Crystobalite,Schlieren
>
> Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 55 75x42x25 Flight Oriented!
>
> Lybian Glass IMPACTITE Individual 17 35x20x18
>
> PARK FOREST glass from car impactite" Fragment 0 50x25x4 glass from car
> broken by Park Forest met. Letter E
>
> the following 5 were in one box, with several large photos and a
> certificate of Jon Larsen (also stolen)
> MICROMETEORITO 213 Barred Olivine Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO
> MICROMETEORITO 225 Barred Olivine Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO
> MICROMETEORITO 227 Turteback Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 fine grained
> cryptocrystalline
> MICROMETEORITO 228 Barred Olivine w/Fe/Ni nuget Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100
> BO with Fe/ni nugget
> MICROMETEORITO 241 Barred Olivine w/broken glass bubble and Pt grp
> Individual 0,01 0x0x0 100 BO w/pt grp nugget & glass bub
>
> pseudometeorite
> Shirokovsky pseudometeorito pseudopallasite slice P 24.1 64x51x2 0
>
>
> these last three, with almost no commercial value were a nice part of my
> collection as were "found" in tucson show auction's cakes, still with the
> aluminium foil, never opened.
>
> Gold Basin V.Cake L4-6 Individual 3,684 w/foil 27x20x11
> Meteorite auction cake Tucson 2012
>
> FRANCONIA V. Cake H5 Individual 4,04 w/foil 25x16x14 Meteorite auction
> cake Tucson 2013
>
> NWA 869 V. Cake H5 Individual 1,914 w/foil 31X19X7 Meteorite auction cake
> Tucson 2014
>
> Thanks for read this. Please let me know if someone 

Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Bolide Audio

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Nice oneyou can hear the detonations just before the end of the video.



On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:01 AM, bill kies via Meteorite-list <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bmW6zCp6I4
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos from the Tucson Gem Show today.

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for sharing those Ruben...

Graham

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <
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> Here are some photos from today as various dealers set up.
> The gem show actually starts on Friday.
> http://www.rubenmrmeteoritegarcia.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

And to you and all Mohammed...

Graham

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Mohammed HMANI via Meteorite-list <
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> Happy New Year everyone.
>
> All the best
>
> Mohammed HMANI
> I.M.C.A #0153
> www.sahara-nayzak.com
>
> > Le 1 jan. 2017 à 12:13, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list  meteoritecentral.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Happy (Florida) New Year's Day, Greg.  Happy New Year to everyone
> throughout the lands of Shooting Stardom!
> > Cheers!
> > Doug
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list 
> > To: meteorite-list 
> > Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2016 9:02 pm
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year From Sunny Florida
> >
> > Happy New Year from sunny and warm Florida.  2017 is already promising
> to be
> > stellar!  Wishing the best for everyone...
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Greg
> >
> > 
> > Greg Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy holidays

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

And to you Aziz...have a joyous weekend.

Graham

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 6:30 AM, habibi abdelaziz via Meteorite-list <
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> Dear fellow members
> I wish you all a merry Christmas and happy happy holidays
> Warmly
> Aziz habibi
> IMCA 6220
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone
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Re: [meteorite-list] Bolivia Meteorite Adventure

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Quite an adventure, often they go hand in hand with meteorites it seems...
thanks for sharing the story Greg.

Graham

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 4:50 AM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list <
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> Bolivia Meteorite Adventure
> By Gregory M. Hupe
>
>
> On November 20, 2016 a massive meteorite event took place over Aiquile,
> Bolivia at approximately 5:00 p.m. local time.  While still daylight,
> Quechua Indian eyewitnesses saw ‘corkscrew’ smoke trails and heard
> ‘whooshing’ noises followed by sonic booms and then stones literally
> falling at their feet!
>
> Michael Farmer and I went to Aiquile to hunt for meteorites and attempt to
> acquire stones from the inhabitants. Things didn’t quite work out that way…
>
> Welcome to Aiquile Bolivia.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia1.jpg
>
> Possibly the main mass, an approximately 35-kilogram impactor.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia2.jpg
>
> Town Square in center of Aiquile.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia3.jpg
>
> Charango guitar with caballero and bull sculpture in the town square.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia4.jpg
>
> It would take us over two weeks after the fall to fly to Bolivia due to
> Mike’s yearly show commitment in Japan.  Just 24 hours at home after
> returning from the show, Michael flew to Florida to meet me.  On December
> 8th we began our journey to South America from Miami.  Our travels would
> take us by air to Aiquile by way of La Paz and then on to Cochabamba and
> then by private hire to Aiquile.  With no sleep for over 30 hours of travel
> from home to the dusty town near the strewnfield, we were exhausted but too
> excited to rest. We went right to work meeting with fellow meteorite
> hunter, Dario Ruiz, who had been there for two weeks.  He introduced us to
> individuals about hunting for meteorites or buying some, but our hopes were
> quickly dampened by the news of the town’s government putting up road
> blocks to deny access to the strewnfield.  It turns out that the officials
> were confiscating stones from the Quechua finders which put them in a panic
> and afraid to talk to outsiders.  Things quickly became complicated.
>
> Dario, Michael and Greg in Aiquile.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia5.jpg
>
> View looking up the Aiquile strewnfield from the Quechua trail.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia6.jpg
>
> Cactus are a common beauty in the strewnfield.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia7.jpg
>
> We realized we were not going to be able to hunt for stones ourselves
> without the threat of arrest, or far worse, physical harm from protective
> villagers we were told may use force to stop outsiders from hunting.
> Knowing this, we immediately went to ‘Plan B’ and were granted secret
> meetings with owners of pieces from the fall.  To our thrill and amazement,
> we were able to see several stones ranging from small broken fragments to
> large kilo-sized pieces.  Throughout the 48-hours we were on site we were
> told of several large pieces included a 50-kilo ‘Puzzle Stone’ which we
> believe to be just rumor as is consistent with most falls.
>
> Reflecting upon a fresh meteorite.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia8.jpg
>
> 100-plus gram fragment.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia9.jpg
>
> Same 100-gram fragment displaying ‘Slickensides’.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia10.jpg
>
> Interior indicating a shocked high metal H Chondrite.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia11.jpg
>
> On our second day we had an early start with a scheduled meeting to see
> some stones, but being on ‘Bolivia time’ we sat for several hours waiting,
> waiting and waiting some more.  To keep us from leaving and going to other
> contacts, our new friend entertained us with some guitar play dressed in
> his caballero ranch clothing made of javelina, lama and other durable
> animal skins.  Aiquile is known as the ‘Capitol of Charango’ (guitar) where
> the guitar is manufactured. It was nice to enjoy this flavor of music high
> in the mountain village.
>
> Local Quechua playing a Charango guitar.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia12.jpg
>
> Video of the music of Bolivian friendship:
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Videos/AiquileBoliviaVideo1.mp4
>
> Newly fallen meteorite with Charango guitar.
> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/AiquileBolivia/AiquileBolivia13.jpg
>
> Noon was soon upon us with nobody bearing stones for us to consider so we
> walked down the street for lunch and chose one of a few street vendors
> offering potatoes and sausage.  We ventured to the local market and town
> square for a little tourism while we were there.  The 

Re: [meteorite-list] New Website

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great Job Larry...looks good to me...will enjoy further browsing through
your adventures.

Cheers,

Graham

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:39 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list <
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> I would like to share some of my hunting experiences with the broader
> meteorite community and have a platform to occasionally sell some material,
> so I created this website. I'm no computer whiz so I used Squarespace and I
> found it quite simple. I recommend it for anyone else that may be
> challenged when it comes to creating a website.
>
> I did the best I could to provide accurate information like names and
> dates, photo credits, etc. If you see a discrepancy of any kind, please let
> me know so that I can fix it. If you see your mug in here or I mention your
> name and you don't want any part of it just say the word and I'll pull the
> offence from the site. Any criticisms and or compliments are always
> welcome, your input is valued. If you have images from hunts that I was
> involved in and you would like them included please send them to me, the
> more the merrier.
>
>  I hope you will take the time to go through and enjoy the many pages
> filled with meteorite images, friends and family, nature photography, micro
> photography, and more!
>
>
> www.cosmicconnectionmeteorites.com
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
> IMCA # 1941
> Ebay alienrockfarm
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Article : 21st Century Meteorite Falls, Part Two

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Apparently I just found outanother hoax video...shamelooked
convincing to me.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Graham Ensor 
wrote:

> But this looks promising Finbarr :-)...a couple of days ago...seems to be
> heading for land over the Bristol channel into Southern UK perhaps when you
> check out the map it was too high and far on to land in the Bristol
> channel http://travel.aol.co.uk/2016/10/20/flaming-meteor-crashes-
> into-sea-in-south-wales/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%
> 7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1309516890_uk
>
> Graham
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:02 PM, finbarr connolly via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> I find the relatively static number of falls very surprising, considering
>> the proliferation of cameras compared to earlier times. Still waiting for
>> our first British Isles fall of the 21st century!
>>
>> Finbarr.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Carl Agee via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Always an interesting topic!
>>>
>>> A couple of things come to mind:
>>>
>>> Morocco has 8 falls in the 21st century, which you suggest has to do
>>> with the meteorite-savvy population and desert terrain. California has
>>> a very similar area and population density -- also a west facing coast
>>> line, a fair amount of desert, and a mountain range. How many 21st
>>> century falls in CA?
>>>
>>> We are over-due for a lunar falls! There are now 265 classified lunars
>>> -- all of them finds. Compare that with 5 martian falls and 177
>>> classified finds, or for example mesosiderites with 6 falls and 261
>>> classified finds. Aubrites have 9 falls and 63 finds.
>>>
>>> Brachinites have no falls (40 finds), any others?
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> Carl B. Agee
>>> Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
>>> Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
>>> MSC03 2050
>>> University of New Mexico
>>> Albuquerque NM 87131-1126
>>>
>>> Tel: (505) 750-7172
>>> Fax: (505) 277-3577
>>> Email: a...@unm.edu
>>> http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/
>>> http://compres.us/about-us/compres-president
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
>>> Meteorite-list  wrote:
>>> > "...In the first 10 years of the 21st Century, we have seen 58 new
>>> > meteorite falls (as of this writing). As we close out the first decade
>>> > of this new century, let us examine some of the facts and numbers
>>> > surrounding these recent falls. For the purposes of this article, we
>>> > will only examine those falls which have been officially recognized by
>>> > the Meteoritical Society. There have been a few documented falls that
>>> > have not been approved yet (Zunhua and Cartersville), so these falls
>>> > will not be included in this analysis..."
>>> >
>>> > I wrote the above introductory paragraph nearly 6 years ago (early
>>> > 2010) when I did my first analysis of recent meteorite fall
>>> > statistics. More than 5 years later, we have had 40 more
>>> > officially-recognized falls. In that same span of time, we have also
>>> > had Breja, Addison, Oslo, Mahbse Aarraid, and the recent White
>>> > Mountains fall that are well documented falls that have not been
>>> > approved or published in the Met Bull.  A quick look at the overall
>>> > numbers shows a very slight increase in the number of approved falls
>>> > in the last 6 years compared to the previous 9.5 years. This is likely
>>> > due, in part, to increased awareness of meteorites and increased
>>> > recovery rates.
>>> >
>>> > Also, it seems that NonCom has been moving a bit faster to approve new
>>> > falls and publish them in the Met Bull. Taking all of these recent
>>> > falls into account, we have now had 98 official falls since the year
>>> > 2000. If one chooses to include the recent unofficial falls which will
>>> > likely be approved in the near future, then we have had over 100
>>> > meteorite falls in the 21st century.
>>> >
>>> > So, in the first 16 years (2000-2016) of this century, we have
>>> > averaged just over 6 approved falls per year.  This represents an
>>> > uptick in the average number of approved falls compared to the
>>> > previous period of 2000-2010 where the average was 5. This is not so
>>> > clear cut though, because a couple of older falls were approved in the
>>> > years since, including Zunhua (as it was known in 2010), which was
>>> > approved in late 2015 as Xinglongquan. For tidy conversational
>>> > purposes, it's safe to say that we expect about 5 to 6 new approved
>>> > falls each year. A number of 5 per year being more conservative and
>>> > closer to 6 if you take into account that some falls are not recovered
>>> > or approved until a year or more after the date of their fall.
>>> >
>>> > Now let's take a look at the numbers and have some fun with them :
>>> > Which petrologic type do you think 

Re: [meteorite-list] Article : 21st Century Meteorite Falls, Part Two

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

But this looks promising Finbarr :-)...a couple of days ago...seems to be
heading for land over the Bristol channel into Southern UK perhaps when you
check out the map it was too high and far on to land in the Bristol
channel
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2016/10/20/flaming-meteor-crashes-into-sea-in-south-wales/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1309516890_uk

Graham

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:02 PM, finbarr connolly via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I find the relatively static number of falls very surprising, considering
> the proliferation of cameras compared to earlier times. Still waiting for
> our first British Isles fall of the 21st century!
>
> Finbarr.
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Carl Agee via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Always an interesting topic!
>>
>> A couple of things come to mind:
>>
>> Morocco has 8 falls in the 21st century, which you suggest has to do
>> with the meteorite-savvy population and desert terrain. California has
>> a very similar area and population density -- also a west facing coast
>> line, a fair amount of desert, and a mountain range. How many 21st
>> century falls in CA?
>>
>> We are over-due for a lunar falls! There are now 265 classified lunars
>> -- all of them finds. Compare that with 5 martian falls and 177
>> classified finds, or for example mesosiderites with 6 falls and 261
>> classified finds. Aubrites have 9 falls and 63 finds.
>>
>> Brachinites have no falls (40 finds), any others?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> *
>> Carl B. Agee
>> Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
>> Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
>> MSC03 2050
>> University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque NM 87131-1126
>>
>> Tel: (505) 750-7172
>> Fax: (505) 277-3577
>> Email: a...@unm.edu
>> http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/
>> http://compres.us/about-us/compres-president
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
>> Meteorite-list  wrote:
>> > "...In the first 10 years of the 21st Century, we have seen 58 new
>> > meteorite falls (as of this writing). As we close out the first decade
>> > of this new century, let us examine some of the facts and numbers
>> > surrounding these recent falls. For the purposes of this article, we
>> > will only examine those falls which have been officially recognized by
>> > the Meteoritical Society. There have been a few documented falls that
>> > have not been approved yet (Zunhua and Cartersville), so these falls
>> > will not be included in this analysis..."
>> >
>> > I wrote the above introductory paragraph nearly 6 years ago (early
>> > 2010) when I did my first analysis of recent meteorite fall
>> > statistics. More than 5 years later, we have had 40 more
>> > officially-recognized falls. In that same span of time, we have also
>> > had Breja, Addison, Oslo, Mahbse Aarraid, and the recent White
>> > Mountains fall that are well documented falls that have not been
>> > approved or published in the Met Bull.  A quick look at the overall
>> > numbers shows a very slight increase in the number of approved falls
>> > in the last 6 years compared to the previous 9.5 years. This is likely
>> > due, in part, to increased awareness of meteorites and increased
>> > recovery rates.
>> >
>> > Also, it seems that NonCom has been moving a bit faster to approve new
>> > falls and publish them in the Met Bull. Taking all of these recent
>> > falls into account, we have now had 98 official falls since the year
>> > 2000. If one chooses to include the recent unofficial falls which will
>> > likely be approved in the near future, then we have had over 100
>> > meteorite falls in the 21st century.
>> >
>> > So, in the first 16 years (2000-2016) of this century, we have
>> > averaged just over 6 approved falls per year.  This represents an
>> > uptick in the average number of approved falls compared to the
>> > previous period of 2000-2010 where the average was 5. This is not so
>> > clear cut though, because a couple of older falls were approved in the
>> > years since, including Zunhua (as it was known in 2010), which was
>> > approved in late 2015 as Xinglongquan. For tidy conversational
>> > purposes, it's safe to say that we expect about 5 to 6 new approved
>> > falls each year. A number of 5 per year being more conservative and
>> > closer to 6 if you take into account that some falls are not recovered
>> > or approved until a year or more after the date of their fall.
>> >
>> > Now let's take a look at the numbers and have some fun with them :
>> > Which petrologic type do you think was the most common type recovered
>> > during the first 16 years of this century?
>> >
>> > Well, it's safe to say that it is an ordinary chondrite. No surprises
>> there.
>> >
>> > More specifically, we have a tie between L6 and H5 chondrites at 23
>> each.
>> >
>> > Anyone want 

Re: [meteorite-list] Witnesses: Meteorite Explodes Over Cyprus

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Good spot in the reflection on the car windscreen.

Graham

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Tommy via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2153266-witnesses-meteorite-
> explodes-over-cyprus/
>
>
> Regards!
>
> Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Stargazer gets a closer look at the Perseid meteor shower than he bargai

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Sorry about the spelling...predictive text on the phone almost as
frustrating as this hoax fiasco...Heather was telling everybody that
meteorites loose very little speed from earths atmosphere and hit the earth
at thousands of miles per hour...also confusing Odessa with Canion Diablo
and false stories about Barwell...I get so annoyed that when a good story
about the Barwell anniversary and real meteorites being discovered that
have fallen through roofs in the past, anniversary monuments etc are pushed
to the media they get ignored and then rubbish like this then makes
headlines without any investigation done at all...

Graham

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Graham Ensor 
wrote:

> What's more it's more it's featured all over BBC radio today with them
> ignoring BIMS members telling them it was a hoax and listening instead to
> the so called expert astronomer Heather Cooper drivel lingerie on that it
> is a meteorite and spouting on with complete load of tosh and
> misinformation about meteoritesalso interviewing others who say they
> are finding loads of meteorites when it's obviously Slag. ..I was shouting
> at the radio with frustration.
>
> On 18 Aug 2016 21:46, "John Lutzon via Meteorite-list"  meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> However, Clark Kent should be notified.
>> Possible Kryptonite danger ...
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list" <
>> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Stargazer gets a closer look at the
>> Perseid meteor shower than he bargai
>>
>>
>> This person should be arrested and the newspaper that printed it
>> should be shut down.
>>
>> This is an intentional hoax and fraud. He didn't just find a rock and
>> think it was a meteorite. He went out of his way to heat up this rock
>> with a welding torch (or fire pit) to make it glow. This is a
>> premeditated fraud to get a few minutes of fame.
>>
>> And the journalist could have known this if he/she had spent 5 minutes
>> on Google. Ditto for the editor.
>>
>> It's shameful and disgusting. I see no humor in it. Too bad he didn't
>> set himself on fire in the process.
>>
>> Sales of all fraudulent glowing hoax rocks are hereby suspended until
>> further notice  ;)
>>
>> --
>> 
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>> 
>>
>> On 8/18/16, Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>> >> Sales of all smoking and burning meteorites are further suspended...
>> >
>> > Especially of the ones you can light a cigarette with ;-)
>> >
>> > Bernd
>> >
>> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stargazer gets a closer look at the Perseid meteor shower than he bargains for when glowing METEORITE lands in his back garden

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Yes and it's been featured all over the radio too...just such bad coverage
and with an interview with a so called expert...hethar Coper she was
talking drivel and was completely out of her depth on meteorites saying it
definitely was one and that they don't loose speed in our atmosphere
landing hot...I just despair when a so called expert astronomer comes on
like this and feeds complete misinformation to the public and the media
take it all in because it's a "good" storyI was driving and shouting at
the radio in frustration and especially when the interviewed that lady who
said she was finding dozens of meteorites in her garden and that they were
commonand yet she has not bothered getting any testedthen dismissed
in one sentence BIMS members who rang in...I think it was Mark Ford who was
quoted as saying he had told the guy it was not a meteorite weeks ago after
he contacted BIMSand then when they a re fed serious stories about
meteorites they gat ignored...so annoying.

Graham

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Oh my, me thinks not.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3745346/Homeowner-
> makes-world-discovery-glowing-METEORITE-lands-garden-lights-
> cigarette-it.html
>
>
> Regards!
>
>
> Tom
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Stargazer gets a closer look at the Perseid meteor shower than he bargai

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

What's more it's more it's featured all over BBC radio today with them
ignoring BIMS members telling them it was a hoax and listening instead to
the so called expert astronomer Heather Cooper drivel lingerie on that it
is a meteorite and spouting on with complete load of tosh and
misinformation about meteoritesalso interviewing others who say they
are finding loads of meteorites when it's obviously Slag. ..I was shouting
at the radio with frustration.

On 18 Aug 2016 21:46, "John Lutzon via Meteorite-list" <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> However, Clark Kent should be notified.
> Possible Kryptonite danger ...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list"  meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Stargazer gets a closer look at the
> Perseid meteor shower than he bargai
>
>
> This person should be arrested and the newspaper that printed it
> should be shut down.
>
> This is an intentional hoax and fraud. He didn't just find a rock and
> think it was a meteorite. He went out of his way to heat up this rock
> with a welding torch (or fire pit) to make it glow. This is a
> premeditated fraud to get a few minutes of fame.
>
> And the journalist could have known this if he/she had spent 5 minutes
> on Google. Ditto for the editor.
>
> It's shameful and disgusting. I see no humor in it. Too bad he didn't
> set himself on fire in the process.
>
> Sales of all fraudulent glowing hoax rocks are hereby suspended until
> further notice  ;)
>
> --
> 
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>
> On 8/18/16, Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> >> Sales of all smoking and burning meteorites are further suspended...
> >
> > Especially of the ones you can light a cigarette with ;-)
> >
> > Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Dodging death in the Czech Republic

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Anyone want to buy a Higgs Boson ;-)

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:49 AM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>
> I was almost struck by a neutrino---my cat-like reflexes allowed me to
> avoid it.
> Never did find  it. Never thought of a plastic bag to catch it. Could've
> made millions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matson, Rob D. via Meteorite-list" <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 1:30 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Dodging death in the Czech Republic
>
>
> As the Count said, far too light. End of story. But it's good that he put
> it inside a plastic bag to
> protect himself from radiation. Next time I'm getting x-rays at the
> dentist, I'll tell her she
> can forgo the lead apron -- a plastic sheet will work just fine. ;-)  --Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
> On Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:49 AM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Lucky teen inches from death as METEORITE crash
> lands next to him
>
>
> Rght.
>
>
> http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/534338/Lucky-teen-inches-death-METEORITE-crash-lands-next-him
>
>
> Regards!
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hello From Joann

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

As Chris says...a meteor burning up is often appears to have landed on
nearby hills but in fact they are just traveling over the horizon at many
miles high before they burn up completely or cool enough to drop without
any light given out...they do not burn all the way to the ground. So the
one you saw would have gone into dark flight many many miles away.

Graham

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> Don,t know who to talk to ,In June Was Standing Outside Looking Up To The
> Sky ,While Waiting For A Friend Get Off Work ,At 8.30PM  While looking up
> here coming down by me is a shooting star ,couldn,t believe it !!! Like
> slow motion the tail with white ,red ,blue ,in color went down while my
> friend came out told him and showed him where at between to building ,So he
> and I went out Saturday to look on the hill for it ,Robert said I need  A
> metal detector ,I just want to know what showers was going on JUNE 29th or
> JULY 1st Do you know ?THANK YOU ! JOANN
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Re: [meteorite-list] Collections - (was Possible meteorite trades)

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

We also have a one of biggest dust collections in our house...only comes
second to the cobweb collection.

Graham

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Frankly I try not to be a collector. Not anymore.
> But I have a few hundreds mineral specimens taking over the house, mostly
> fluorites probably about 200 of those. And I have bookcases in every room
> of the house, most of them extremely full.
> Yes I do call the minerals a collection, I keep track of the provenance,
> when bought, labels, etc.. but the books, no, there are books I picked
> up here and there because the subject interested me, mostly archaeology and
> ancient history.
>
> So maybe we need a proper definition of what constitute a Collection.
> Stuff properly curated and catalogued?
> Versus interesting stuff picked up here and there?
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Tue, Jul 5, 2016 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
>
> Like many of us, I have always been a collector. Rocks, fossils and
> minerals
> were my first passion, I had a passing interest in stamps/coins as an older
> child and then as a teenager collected comic books and comic book art. This
> was at a time when many new alternative comic books came onto the scene
> like
> Cerebus, Mage, Elementals, and even Teen Age Ninja Mutant Turtles. As an
> adult, my wife and I began collecting art and building on the pieces
> created
> by my father who was a master jeweler, painter and sculptor. We have really
> eclectic tastes but focused on paintings, glass art and sculpture with
> styles ranged from Russian impressionism to Huichol Yarn paintings,
> abstract
> paintings to many pieces we had commissioned ourselves.
>
> Then in the summer of 2011, I watched "Meteorite Men" and went off the deep
> end for meteorites. 4 years after buying my first Sikhote Alins from Geoff
> Notkin in October 2011, I decided to become a full-time meteorite dealer as
> well as a full-time high tech consultant (yes, when you work for yourself
> you can pursue more than one vocation full time). If finances allowed, I
> would have also collected old katana swords as the craftsmanship, beauty
> and
> Samurai ethos has always fascinated me.
>
> Thank you Edwin for invigorating the list with a REALLY on-topic topic!
>
> Best,
>
> Mendy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Bob Falls via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 11:25 AM
> To: 'Edwin Thompson' ;
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
>
> Hi E.T. and all,
>
> Very interesting that you collect marbles; I do not have any marbles to
> trade however find it very interesting that most meteorite collectors do
> have separate very unrelated collections.
>
> Along with collecting meteorites I am a music collector.  This started back
> in the 60's with records (vinyl) and then migrated into CD's.  I still have
> most of the original vinyl collection and still search for out of print
> CD's
> along with new music to add to the collection.  The collection is diverse
> in
> types of music however mainly focuses on blues, classic rock and jazz.
>
> There is a link between the collections; I listen to music while either
> working on new specimens, cataloging new acquisitions or viewing thin
> sections!!
>
> Very interesting hearing from others on their "non-meteorite" collections.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bob Falls
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Edwin Thompson via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 12:02 AM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
>
> Hello to all list members,
>  I am reaching out to the farthest corners of the known world to appeal to
> any and all collectors.
>  Having dealt in and collected meteorites, tektites and related books since
> I was just a kid, collecting all kinds of rocks which included a few
> cherished meteorites as early as the age of six, life has been blessed with
> lots of treasured finds. By the age of nine my parents allowed me to go off
> on summer long geology exploring science camp trips with older kids. For
> three years this was how I spent my summers, digging in fossil beds and
> agate beds all across the Northwest, areas that have been closed to this
> sort of activity since the mid to late sixties. At age seven I joined the
> Oregon Archaeological Society and at age fourteen I was given the privilege
> of being a dig site foreman for a Scappoose Indian housing and burial site
> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi Edwin...Interesting to hear all that Edwin...I do tend to collect other
things...random thing usually but have quite a collection of ceramics (many
pieces from Bretby Artys where my mother worked as a teenager) and some
artworks.

Unfortunately my wife informs me that she thinks I "lost my marbles" ages
ago when I started collecting space rocks..LOL

I know there is one collector here in the UK that collects frogs and
another that collects butterflies(he has his own butterfly greenhouse with
many exotic ones flying around.)

Fascinating stuff.

Cheers,

Graham

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Edwin Thompson via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello to all list members,
>  I am reaching out to the farthest corners of the known world to appeal to
> any and all collectors.
>  Having dealt in and collected meteorites, tektites and related books
> since I was just a kid, collecting all kinds of rocks which included a few
> cherished meteorites as early as the age of six, life has been blessed with
> lots of treasured finds. By the age of nine my parents allowed me to go off
> on summer long geology exploring science camp trips with older kids. For
> three years this was how I spent my summers, digging in fossil beds and
> agate beds all across the Northwest, areas that have been closed to this
> sort of activity since the mid to late sixties. At age seven I joined the
> Oregon Archaeological Society and at age fourteen I was given the privilege
> of being a dig site foreman for a Scappoose Indian housing and burial site
> before it was built into the now dismantled Trojan Nuclear Energy Power
> Plant along the banks of the mighty Columbia river near my home here in
> Oregon. Over time, life has changed and my interests have changed with the
> exception of a few common threads. One
>  of them being that rocks from Space are the coolest of all rocks!
>  Many of you know that from 1987 until 2002 I displayed and sold
> meteorites, fossils and artifacts at roughly 48 gem and mineral shows each
> year around the western United States.
>  During those wonderful years of travel both here and abroad, I had the
> joy and pleasure (and still do) of meeting collectors and seeing their
> amazing collections. What I have seen and I am sure that many of you can
> relate to this, is that most of us who collect rocks from Space, also
> collect other things. I have seen a collection of antique surfboards, a
> huge collection of ancient suits of armor, cannons, guns, diamonds,
> polished stone spheres, stamps, coins (I think coins are how Michael Casper
> made his fortune! Good for him!). I've seen amazing collections of fossils,
> minerals and gem stones in private homes and on and on.
>  Long story made shorter, I stopped collecting these beloved meteorites
> when I formally started selling them back in 87'. I have learned that this
> might have been a huge mistake but it's the choice I felt I needed to make
> in order to pay the bills and to remain competitive in an ever shrinking
> world market. But, the collecting bug never went away, it just changed
> shape and theme.
>
>  Here is the pitch; about 1990 I started collecting antique handmade glass
> marbles. These gorgeous, colorful treasures were made by glass workers in
> the Lauscha region of East Germany from approximately 1880 until 1920. They
> are rare and hard to find. I have amassed a large collection and yet am
> always searching for more. I would be delighted to trade meteorites,
> tektites or books, even art, rare wine or cashy money for any number of
> these marbles.
>  If you are a marble collector then I would enjoy talking with you about
> your collection and collecting direction. Recently Patrick got infected by
> this same obsession and he is an avid collector of the more recent machine
> made marbles from as early as the 1920's and 30's and later. If you just
> want to talk marbles please drop me a line. If you know someone with
> marbles to sell or if you have some yourself, please give me a chance to
> make an offer.
>
>
>  On a less selfish thread, I think it would be a lot of fun to read about
> the things that others collect. I recall the first time I met Mike Bandli
> in Tucson years ago he was dealing in Space surplus and he had a huge
> collection of super cool artifacts. I learned at this last Tucson show that
> John Kashuba and I have nearly matching collections of rare, old wines.
> Hey, there is a meteorite collector in New York who collects live
> scorpions! And who hasn't seen Bruce Wegman's  digital watch collection?
>
>  Come on folks, share the fun!
>
>  Best regards,  E.T.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Agreed...it's a cleaned  camponot a new find...testing would confirm
that.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 12:10 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Nice 100% campo del Cielo meteorite from Argentina.
> 110% scam.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:40 AM, John Pierce via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> OK, photos.
> I'm not the most computer literate person.
> I had go create a Photobucket album, and I hope this link works:
>
> http://s744.photobucket.com/user/Lumin9/library/Halo
>
> Please, no need to flame me for cleaning the rock.
> I read and considered a lot before proceeding.
> Simply my preference with no concern regarding market value.
>
> Found by me personally on our 32-acre property in Southern Oregon.
>
> John Pierce
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Paul Gessler  wrote:
>
>> Let’s see a picture of this Iron.
>> -Paul G
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John Pierce via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 6:33 PM
>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Cutting An Iron
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is my first post here.  I joined recently because I found a lovely
>> nickel-iron meteorite, and that has spurred my further interest in this
>> subject.  My meteorite has been confirmed as the real thing by staff of the
>> Meteorite Lab at Portland State University, who would like to perform
>> classification.  It is 11.2 kg, and according to PSU staff, it will be only
>> the seventh classified meteorite ever found in the state of Oregon.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve enjoyed reading these archives, but I haven’t yet been able to find
>> answer to my question.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m posting here to ask if anyone has any experience cutting an iron
>> meteorite with the CBN blade that is sold by Johnson Brothers Lapidary.
>> They advertise it as just the thing for cutting irons.  I’m interested to
>> know anything about blade life, rim speed, feed rate, and using plain water
>> as a coolant/lubricant.  For cutting the analysis sample, I have machining
>> experience and very suitable tools, except for the blade, which I would
>> like to be a circular blade.
>>
>>
>>
>> I welcome replies here on the forum, or by private email.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hot vs Cold again...wasmMeteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Elton...I agree with most of thatbut the cooling starts straight after
hot flight miles up where the air temperature is around -30 -50
deg...surely any heat in the fusion crust would dissipate very quickly up
there and then the interior temperature would then equalize to bring it
down to well below freezing as it free-falls with minimum friction to
change thatso my thinking is that even the fusion crust would also be
very cold on landing unless somehow the friction from punching the hole
heats the surface briefly...but I doubt that it would last more than a
fraction of a second.

Graham

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:04 AM, MEM via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>
>
> This was looked into several times in the list history. I am recalling
> details from those discussions/my research.
>
> Any body arriving from space is at least -60°c and closer to -120°c to
> -180°c based on some black body studies of asteroids-- IIRC
>
>
> The temperature at the air-meteoroid boundary of entry exceeds the melting
> point of both iron and olivine. Most of that heat is carried off as an
> iron/silicate mist.  Each mili-second of incandescent flight an entirely
> new surface is formed. Inward traveling heat is being stripped away almost
> as fast as it is penetrating in low thermo-conducivity but much faster in
> high conductivity bodies (e.g iron).  The radiative cooling during dark
> flight is probably calculable and a missing factor in estimating the state
> of heat content upon landing.
>
>
> One of the Weston CT meteorites formed a frost rind shortly after falling
> after sufficient time for all reentry heat to dissipate. I do not recall
> any other comments.  This was discovered by a fireman under the dining
> table.  I do not recall which other meteorite it was but, another was noted
> to have a frost rind after a few minutes. Other falls such as Sylacaga are
> silent as to the temperature.
>
>
> Conclusions:
>
> An immediately-recovered, newly-fallen silicate/stony meteorite is
> usually--but briefly "hot/uncomfortably warm" to the touch. The rind is
> very hot but lacks much heat reservoir. Heat penetration--based on
> measuring heated rims-- is somewhere between 2mm but not more than 6mm.
> Beyond 6mm does not get above 140° F proven by the domain reset of
> magnetite orientation in Martian Meteorites.  Be it remembered that an
> empty .50 cal brass case "feels" like it would burn you if it goes down
> one's shirt but lacks the heat content to cause burns.
>
>
> Specific characterizations of hot/warm are hidden among the various
> accounts of some well known falls nearby humans. Monahans, Mbale, Allende,
> Murchison etc..  If you disagree-- don't start some silly list fight--Do
> your own weeks of research reach your own conclusions!
>
>
> Iron meteorites owing to a high coefficient of therm-conductivity are
> likely very hot to the touch and warm throughout. It is probably much like
> a piece of metal cut by a welding torch--no sign of bluing but very hot on
> the opposite end of the cut.
>
>
>
> Elton
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Re: [meteorite-list] From the dailybruin.com - Couple loans unexpected find to UCLA Meteorite Gallery

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

What an amazing oriented shape...awesome find and great that it will be
exhibited.

Graham

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jason Utas via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Some additional photos:
>
> (1) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSCN8994.jpg
>
> (2) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSCN8992.jpg
>
> (3) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSCN8991.jpg
>
> (4) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/DSCN8990.jpg
>
>
> As it is currently displayed (through glass):
>
> (L) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_2949.jpg
>
> (R) http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/IMG_2950.jpg
>
>
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Art via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Great news for UCLA ... Marvin, John, Nick, and Jason mentioned in this
>> article about the Eltrich's awesome find.
>>
>>
>> http://dailybruin.com/2016/06/27/couple-loans-unexpected-find-to-ucla-meteorite-gallery/
>>
>> -Art
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2016

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

It was one of the best shows this time I thought...but then I'm a bit
biased there this time :-)good to meet you Mendy and all the other new
visitors, Tony Irving etc...lots to sort now home with the ones I brought
back.

I have a few photos, but have to sort through them laterstill suffering
a bit from the 4.30am arrival home due to delayed flights.

Graham

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Gmail via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Tons of news and pictures on FB. It is loaded with vibrant and interesting
> meteorite related info. As I told our FB community, I did not realize I had
> so many friends I had never met before!
>
> Best,
>
> Mendy Ouzillou
>
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Bob Falls via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Agree there has not been much (if any) news on the show this year on the
> list; likely on Facebook however have not looked there...
> Hopefully we will hear some news on the list and some links to photos so
> those of us who could not attend can see what all was there and the good
> times had by those in attendance!
>
> Best Regards,
> Bob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
> On
> Behalf Of John Lutzon via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 4:46 PM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2016
>
> List,
>
> Is there any early breaking news on this year's show?
>
> I hope many folks follow Martin Goff's great effort (last year) in putting
> together a wonderful pictorial with commentary of the show and events.
>
> While waiting for a compilation of pics and talk-- any tidbits as it was
> happening would be appreciated.
>
> Ensisheim deprived John
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Major Find!

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Congratulations...Very intriguing...achondrite or iron or stony iron I
wonder :-)...looking forward to hearing more and seeing photos...and hurry
up about it LOL!would be great to hear more to discuss in Ensisheim in
a couple of weeks.

Graham

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Gmail via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Can't wait to hear more details. Congrats to the entire team.
>
> Best,
>
> Mendy Ouzillou
>
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Love this read.  Many congratulations!
>
> Yahoo, indeed.
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Count Deiro via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello List,
> >
> > Less than an hour ago, I returned to Las Vegas with a some experienced
> friends after we completed an "overnight" trip to the north. One of the
> smarter of us had come up with a way to drive in the afternoon to an area
> of promise and be on site at daybreak and hunt until, it was reasoned,
> people would be in the area and we would be subject to whatever.
> >
> > At a little after sunrise this morning, and less than an hour into
> searching, one of us made what we all agree might be a "major' find. We
> also agreed that one of us could say something censored to the List without
> "letting the cat out of the bag" for fear of the usual inane responses from
> the doubters and criticizers. But, more importantly, we also are aware that
> there would a real risk that some authority would claim the meteorite was
> found where it could be subject to seizure.
> >
> > We all are so excited and pumpedespecially me, because my cancer has
> kept me confined to home for many months... that we had to share the news
> and also establish the start of a public record of the find.
> >
> > All we can say further is that the meteorite, which is much larger than
> the 13.7 kilo LL6 chondrite I found in Pahrump, Nevada, is obviously not an
> OC. It was found on flat, sandy, terrain and it appears recent rain and
> wind had exposed part of it.
> >
> > I say this with affection for my friends, but I'll be surprised if they
> can keep a secret. At least I got to get some of the excitement off my
> chest. And no...I am not the lucky one who literally stumbled over this
> rock...but, I was 20' away.
> >
> > Yahoo!
> >
> > Count Deiro
> >
> >
> >  003.JPG>__
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Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari Lunars

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Seems to be enough around for the science to be done anyway
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/kalahari008.htm

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Interesting, could long-term terrestrial cosmic ray exposure account for
> these "seemingly impossibly" short transit times:
>
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2005/pdf/5270.pdf
>
> I noticed in this abstract that K. Nishiizumi, whom I have a great deal of
> respect for, states the following:
>
> The cosmogenic nuclide concentrations in Kalahari 008 and 009 are the
> lowest activities in stony meteorites ever measured.
>
> If both objects are lunar meteorites, the transition time from the Moon to
> the earth was 230±90 yr and ejection depth was more than >1,100 g/cm2 on
> the Moon. Small amounts of cosmogenic nuclides are also produced in-situ on
> the Earth’s surface.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Carl Agee" 
> To: "Raremeteorites" 
> Cc: "meteoritelist meteoritelist" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari Lunars
>
>
>
> According to the MetBull there are 20 gram samples and thin sections
> of both 008  and 009 at Universität Münster, Münster, Germany. There
> has been science done on Kalahari 008 and 009. Aside from microprobe,
> they have radiometric ages, oxygen isotopes, as well as cosmic ray
> exposure. As Randy Korotev notes, they are totally different rocks but
> with similar lunar ejection ages - only 350 ± 120 yr for Kalahari 008
> and 220 ± 40 yr for Kalahari 009, which are the shortest exposure ages
> of any meteorite.
>
> Carl
> *
> Carl B. Agee
> President, Consortium for Materials Properties Research in Earth
> Sciences (COMPRES)
> Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
> Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
> MSC03 2050
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>
> Tel: (505) 750-7172
> Fax: (505) 277-3577
> Email: a...@unm.edu
> http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/
> http://compres.us/about-us/compres-president
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>
>> In other words, they are worthless from a monetary standpoint just like
>> meteorites found on public lands here in the United States and many other
>> countries.
>>
>> The best that could be hoped for, if they still or ever existed,  is that
>> they are made available for scientific research from the government that
>> owns them.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 8:58 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Kalahari Lunars
>>
>>
>>
>> There remains the fact that if any of this material actually appears in
>>> the market it would immediately be claimed by the government of Botswana.
>>> Their President has a keen interest in meteorites. That being said, the
>>> last
>>> time I was in the Central Kalahari on photographic safari I definitely
>>> kept
>>> an eye out for rocks. The White Kalahari has hundreds of feet of sand
>>> with
>>> organics but rocks are rare.
>>> Chauncey
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Goes Ivy League - NEW Display at Yale!

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great to see this happen. Just love it when exciting new meteorite displays
emerge and collaborations between museums, the  scientific community and
the general meteorite community work out. NWA 5000 is still the most
beautiful lunar in my opinion even though in the last couple of years a
large number of others have been found...I think you have a few of them
Darryl ;-)

Which brings me to the Kalahari 009 mass which has always intrigued me.
Does anyone know more detail about the story behind this meteorite...I
would love to know more, or see photos details etc...and I'm sure many more
in our community would too.

Cheers,

Graham

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Darryl,
>
> For your opinion of and the,  ['legal classification'] of term, "The
> World's Largest Lunar Meteorite."
>
> First, 'Kalahari "Anything Lunar-Related" has NEVER been physically and/or
> photographically proven to be valid!
>
> Secondly as you, (as a Professional 'World-Wide' Meteorite Dealer &
> Motivator) states, "[{Questionable lunar rock (Darryl's mention}]... recent
> lunar fits together as a jigsaw which is more than twice as massive [as NWA
> 5000]"
>
> MARKETING ~ On Your Part...
>
> We've only presented a "PUBLIC DISPLAY" of NORTHWEST AFRICA 5000 (NWA
> 5000) of something I've been able to share without the Greed of ManKIND. My
> pursuit of this project was to draw 'ManKIND' back together with my
> team NOTHING IS FOR {SALE} Thank you for taking a 'couple
> seconds' to 'Consider Your Thoughts' by my sharing a wonderful moment to
> 'Those Who Deserve It' !!!
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg
>
> 
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> gmh...@centurylink.net
> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
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> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
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> 
> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
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>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Darryl Pitt
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 10:08 PM
> To: Greg Hupe
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Goes Ivy League - NEW Display at
> Yale!
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> While this is great — many congratulations! — the exhibit headline
> incorrectly states that NWA 5000 is "The World's Largest Lunar Meteorite."
> In the exhibit description it states that NWA 5000 is the largest lunar
> meteorite ever discovered.  Despite being uber-cool, NWA 5000 never held
> this distinction.  Discovered nearly a decade earlier, the Kalahari 009
> mass is significantly larger.  In addition, there is a recent lunar which
> fits together as a jigsaw which is more than twice as massive (which Tony
> analyzed many months ago).  Still...very nice.   All the best / Darryl
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:35 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Meteorite Community,
>>
>> I would like to personally "Thank" everyone for the wonderful public and
>> private compliments and congratulations for the successful launch of the
>> NWA 5000 display in the Peabody Museum at Yale University.
>>
>> Without the vision, support and encouragement from two very key
>> participants this public display would never have been realized. I would
>> like to draw attention to Dr. Tony Irving for the 'Vision, Encouragement
>> and Friendship', who made this all happen. His unwavering friendship,
>> devotion to meteoritics and continued help will always be cherished by me.
>> He introduced me to Dr. Stefan Nicolescu of Yale Peabody Museum of Natural
>> History who has fast become a dear friend as well. Stefan's open-minded and
>> artistic demeanor combined the Babylonian clay tablet, 'Velocity of the
>> Moon', and lunar meteorite NWA 5000 into a single display after a couple of
>> our visits throughout the Yale campus. This enabled the display to combine
>> the 'Human Element' with a material object from our Earth's Moon!
>>
>> The collaboration between Tony and Stefan was crucial in ensuring that
>> 'The Display' has become a reality for all the world to share!
>>
>> Once again, I would like to 'Thank' both Tony and Stefan!!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>> 
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> gmh...@centurylink.net
>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
>> IMCA 3163
>> 
>> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 3:20 AM
>> To: 

Re: [meteorite-list] UCLA team of scientists explores Mojave Desert for meteorites

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Thanks for sharing...enjoyed reading that Tommy.

Graham

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list <
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>
> http://dailybruin.com/2016/04/29/ucla-team-of-scientists-explores-mojave-desert-for-meteorites/
>
> Regards!
>
> Tom
>
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[meteorite-list] Barwell Meteorite monument...please help with your vote....and share.

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Hi allJust seen this after years of trying to working towards this
something might happenplease vote if you are able...The latest
information is that the Parish council will erect a monument near the
centre of the  Barwell meteorite strewnfield to attach the plaque to if
they get approvalso the more votes the better.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Public-invited-vote-prestigious-green-plaques/story-29177963-detail/story.html

http://www.leicestershire.gov.uk/leisure-and-community/history-and-heritage/vote-for-your-green-plaque-winner

Cheers,

Graham and BIMS
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: SALE: More than 200 NWAs on ebay up to 9 Kilos

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great to hear from you again Dean...long time.

Graham

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, dean bessey via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I have nearly 200 new NWA meteorites now listed on ebay.
>  Lots of cut ones and large ones up to 9 kilos.
>  See my ebay user id AMUNRE or follow this link.
>
> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems=1=amunre=0=200=3=1
>  I haven't used my old website meteoriteshop.com in years but soon I will
> have an exciting new mineral and gemstone website including meteorites so
> keep posted.
>  But for now get first crack at my new ebay items
>  cheers
>  Dean Bessey
>  AMUNRE on ebay
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Re: [meteorite-list] ISS Meteor Mission

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Interesting project worth watching for results...thanks for sharing this
Greg

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Greg Redfern via Meteorite-list <
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> Dear List,
>
> Check out this upcoming Meteor Mission
> 
> to the ISS.
>
> The results of this two year on orbit mission should be very interesting.
>
> All the best,
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Texas Meteorite from the February 2016 fireball

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great job...congrats to everyone involved.

G

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> I would like to announce the discovery of a new meteorite from the
> February 2016 Texas fireball. This find was made possible by a
> collaboration of efforts from many individuals. Thanks to everyone
> involved. Special congratulations to Terry Scott.
>
> Sonny
>
>
>
> http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Sonny_Clary_meteorite_hunts_nevadameteorites.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Osceola/Lake City Florida

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great stuff...well done...wonderful account.

Graham


On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> I'm happy to announce the recovery of the January 24 event over northern
> Florida.  For the complete story, please go to
>
> http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/comets/osceola-meteorite-recovery/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry Atkins
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Vellore meteor "rite" says trichy lab report

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Still not convinced.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Simon deBoer via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

>
> http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/vellore-blast-tamil-nadu-blast-samples-from-vellore-college-are-meteorite-parts-says-trichy-lab-report/
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Re: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Great Marcin...that will help the whole project.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:31 PM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hey
> I was talking with Michael and we are working on a better solution. Im
> ready to be European distributor for next issue. Polish post prices are
> much lower than sending each magazine from USA to Europe. I hope it will
> work and for same money we could get two issues than one.
>
>
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>
>
>
>
> Marcin,
>> I get what you're saying.  The shipping is expensive.  I agree.
>>
>> But:
>> It's a quarterly magazine. Comes out every 3 months.  Spending 33.80$
>> once every 3 months averages to about 11.27$ each month.  Okay so not
>> EXACTLY 10$
>>
>> I spent 14$ last night to go to a movie for just two hours of
>> entertainment.  It may not be worth it to someone who never read the
>> Deadpool comics but it was worth it to me. :-)
>>
>> It costs me 3.50$ a day to have the latte I like to drink most mornings.
>> If I do that six times a week that's 21$ a week, and 84$ a month.  It may
>> not be worth it to someone who doesn't like coffee, but it's worth it to me.
>>
>> My point is, 33.80$ is really not alot of money to pay once every three
>> months for a high quality magazine if you really do enjoy the content.
>>
>> Hope you are doing good my friend.
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>
>> On 2/12/16 at 5:58 AM, PolandMET via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>> Bigjohn are You kidding me? Where You have 10$ ?
>>> Check how much it cost myself to deliver it to Poland, for one...
>>>   Items US $9.99
>>>   Shipping US $17.49
>>>   Tax US $6.32
>>>   Total US $33.80
>>>
>>> I'm very interested to own every copy of this new excellent magazine, but
>>> 34$ per issue ?  No way. Im verry unhappy. Maybe Michael can change
>>> distribution to something else. I dont know.
>>>
>>> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ][ +48 793567667 ]-
>>> http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
>>> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
>>> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > This is a quarterly magazine.  Published every three months and costing
>>> > 30$ for international readers means you spend roughly ten bucks a
>>> month > to
>>> > read it.  Not sure that's worth griping over personally.  Yes, it's
>>> > basically double what the US readers are spending, but it's worth it >
>>> for a
>>> > good publication.  I say try it once and see if you like what you read.
>>> > Decide from there if it's worth your 10$ a month.
>>> > Cheers.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> >
>>> > On 2/11/16 at 4:37 PM, cbo via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I concour with Sergey. Very expensive the shipping fee to Europe:(
>>> >>
>>> >> 9.99USD Magazine with over 20USD shipping fee? Why?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regrads!
>>> >>
>>> >> Zsolt
>>> >>
>>> >> Hungary
>>> >>
>>> >> IMCA#6251
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Meteorite-list >> [mailto:
>>> meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]
>>> >> On Behalf Of Michael Johnson via Meteorite-list
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 12:08 AM
>>> >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi, I'm still getting questions where to order the February 2016
>>> issue >> of
>>> >> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE so here again is the link. If you would like to
>>> >> submit an article, ad, or have any questions please contact me at the
>>> >> following address:
>>> >>
>>> >> spacerocksmagaz...@gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.blurb.com/b/6862308-space-rocks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Michael Johnson
>>> >>
>>> >> Editor-in-Chief
>>> >>
>>> >> SPACE ROCKS MAGAZINE
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone6
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -- >> Sent from My iPhone
>>> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Marissa F. in Tucson 2016

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

That's good to hear...some wonderful folks in our meteorite community.

Graham

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list <
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> I wanted to thank everyone who made Marissa's Tucson trip such a positive
> and uplifting experience.  You all cannot know what this trip meant to her
> and how these memories will be carried close to her heart for the rest of
> her life. So many people gave not only valuable meteorites to her (you know
> who you are!), but even more invaluable is the time and conversations that
> were shared.  Much like her first meteorite hunt, her first Tucson trip has
> been, literally, a life changing experience. I truly hope she gets to come
> again.
>
> My most sincerest thank you, I am honored and it is my privilege to be
> part of such an excellent community.
>
> Michael in so. Cal.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I always said I would not venture into Facebook but unfortunately it
is where all the action is and is so easy to use, post pictures to,
share info, personal message and find new material...see early new
finds and acquire exciting samples...Also had to venture into using it
for marketing other aspects etc...just no choice if you want to keep
up with things.

You do need to keep it in check with privacy settings and try not to
let it take over your life though.

Graham

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Matthias Bärmann
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 I agree, Anne. And I ask myself emphatically: why the hell sell my soul
 (whatever that might be) for free? Something rhymes ...

 Best, Matthias



 Am 29.04.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Anne Black via Meteorite-list:

 I'll have to agree with Greg.
 The French Forum is rather quiet too, except for our Name that Meteorite
 game.
 Certainly Social Media Overload.

 There are still people talking but there is nothing really new to talk
 about, no new Fall, no new discoveries.
 So a bit of peace and quiet.


 Anne M. Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 impact...@aol.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Goff via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 To: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net
 Cc: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 2:15 pm
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Awfully quiet


 Hi Bernd, Tracy, all.

 Most of my meteorite related chat now occurs via Facebook
 and this is
 what i observe from many others too. Numerous people within
 our
 meteorite community who were regular posters here on the metlist i now
 see
 posting daily in the various facebook groups and forums. I know
 it's not for
 everyone but i for one would certainly feel as if i was
 missing out on the
 latest meteorite news and chat if I were not on
 Facebook.

 I have done quite a
 few posts over the last year where i have
 submitted the same post via various
 different forums and plarforms to
 try and see which generated the most
 conversation and i have to say
 Facebook won by huge margins every single
 time.

 Hope to see you on there maybe Bernd? Your experience and knowledge
 would
 be hugely beneficial to everyone there :-)

 Kind regards

 Martin





 On 29
 April 2015 at 21:02, Greg Hupé
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hello Bernd and All,

 Maybe 'Social Media Overload'? I have been talking with

 several friends over

 the last few months about the dramatic slowdown [from

 last two years] which

 has many contributing factors, none of which is purely;

 MetList Forum,

 Facebook, Twitter or any of the other outlets of info... almost

 a 'Quiet

 Before the Storm' effect. It may be an indication of 'The Market'

 and/or

 'Supply  Demand' which has been very tough since 2008 and even more

 since

 one year ago in 'my' experience and dealings. I should look up at the

 sky

 and see if the birds are heading in an odd direction for this time of

 year...

 Best Regards,
 Greg

 
 Greg Hupé
 The Hupé

 Collection

 gmh...@centurylink.net
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 Reference Site)

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 -Original Message-

 From: Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list

 Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:34

 PM

 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Awfully

 quiet


 ...  or have I been dropped?


 Hello Tracy, Greg, List,

 No,

 you haven't been dropped but the frequency of contributions

 has dropped

 considerably. Interestingly, the same phenomenon on

 Geoff's CSR forum and even

 on our German forum.

 Best from Germany,

 Bernd



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Re: [meteorite-list] Fantastic bolide over Minas Gerais, Brasil 28APR2015

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Wow...is that a true effect or just something attributed to the
workings of the camera?

Graham

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list
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 List,
 A remarkable video capture of a bolide over Minas Gerais, Brasil 
 28APR2015.http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2015/04/minas-gerais-brasil-bolide-28apr2015-w.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Did I Capture Bolide During SpaceX Launch?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Still looks right to me...how can a bird be leaving debris behind it
(apart from the obvious) ;-)


On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Greg Hupé
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Good eyesight... after looking at the video a few dozen times I can now see
 the 'bird' flying to the left and then circle back to the right where it can
 be seen.. Close, but no bolide! Fun while it had a chance to be a
 bolide... :)

 Greg


 -Original Message- From: Bob Loeffler via Meteorite-list
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:07 PM
 To: 'Meteorite Central'

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did I Capture Bolide During SpaceX Launch?

 Hi Larry,

 At 1:05 in the video, look just below the top level of clouds between the
 clouds and the edge of the video in the lower-right corner of the video.
 Then at 1:09 (1 minute 9 seconds), you will see a streak going from the
 right side of the clouds to the edge of the video. The streak occurs for
 only 1 second, so you have to be looking in the right area to see it at
 1:09.

 Regards,
 Bob L


 -Original Message-
 From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
 Behalf Of Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:36 AM
 To: marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov; gmh...@centurylink.net;
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; robert.d.mat...@leidos.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did I Capture Bolide During SpaceX Launch?

 All I see is a couple of turkey vultures. Is there something else I'm not
 seeing?


 Sincerely,
 Larry Atkins

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 -Original Message-
 From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-XI111) via Meteorite-list (JSC-XI111) via
 Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 To: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net; meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob D. Matson
 robert.d.mat...@leidos.com
 Sent: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 7:47 am
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did I Capture Bolide During SpaceX Launch?


 I don¹t think it is a bolide, because at 1:07 something goes from right
 toleftin the same area, coming from off-frame to the right.  I think
 you¹relookingat something making a loop; a bird, nearby bug, or perhaps
 adrone.  Still,I¹ll look at the radar imagery and see if anything showsup.
 Do you know whatdirection you were facing at the time?Cheers,MarcOn 4/15/15,
 11:41 PM,Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:Hello All (Marc,
 Rob...),Afriend of ours, Eric Bowker, noticed that in my recent video
 oftheSpaceXlaunch of the CRS-6 ISS resupply mission that I may
 haveinadvertentlyvideotaped a bolide at time of launch! See my video on
 YouTubeat 1:10lowerright and let me know what you think... Looks like a
 bolide tome...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYSX2pUqmHgAny Meteor
 activityat 4:10 PM 4-14-2015 Cape
 Canaveral?BestRegards,GregGreg HupéThe
 HupéCollectiongmh...@centurylink.netwww.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog
 Reference Site)www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary
 MeteoriteSite)NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest
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Re: [meteorite-list] An annual meteorite gathering

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Sounds a good event Edwin...wish I could make it...hope it raises
plenty for the cause.
Perhaps one daykeep us informed each time.

G

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Edwin Thompson via Meteorite-list
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  http://meteorites.pdx.edu/fundraiser.htm


 Hello list members, this is an invitation to a meteorite event  at Cascadia 
 Meteorite Laboratory at Portland State University in beautiful Portland, 
 Oregon.


 For over ten years, we have held fun, successful fundraising banquets, sales 
 and auctions to raise money to support the work done at C.M.L. (Cascadia 
 Meteorite Laboratory). In the early years, the events were held here at my 
 home featuring wonderful steaks, salmon and vegetarian on the grill.  The 
 wine and beer flowed endlessly in an effort to warm up the bidding. The 
 auctions have always been great fun. Many of you may know our auctioneer 
 Peter Abrahams. He is very well known in Astronomy circles and a long time 
 meteorite collector. Peter handles the auction in a unique, intellectual and 
 entertaining fashion. Your guaranteed to enjoy his style.


 The CML meteorite event quickly outgrew my home and has moved to the 
 university. Just as CML has taken on a life of its own and grown into a 
 substantial institution, we hope that this event will grow in size.


 This is an invitation to all members of the international meteorite 
 community: researchers, curators, educators, dealers, hunters and collectors. 
  In the future we hope to have a large vendor area, displays and lectures, 
 food, drink, friends, trading, auction and field trips to places like our 
 local active volcano (Mt St. Helens) and the Columbia Gorge.  For you beer 
 lovers, Portland is referred to as the microbrewery capital of the world!


 If you wish to be one of the pioneers and attend the first of this new era of 
 CML events, please contact us through the link above.


 There will be selling tables for dealers who wish to attend this year's 
 Spring 2015 CML event.


 Please support the lab with a visit to the beautiful Northwest and Portland, 
 the river city!


 Edwin and Patrick
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Re: [meteorite-list] TONS OF ROCKS REMOVED FROM LAKE BED?

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

I agree...there has to be a good chance...just booking my plane ticket ;-)

Graham

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Count Deiro via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Hi Listees,

 This article about preparations for a new land speed record using the surface 
 of the Kalahari states that they cleared the hard pan of some 18,500 tons of 
 rocks in preparation for the attempt. If this link doesn't work access the 
 Drudge Report on line and look for the caption.

 http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/motoring-news/land-speed-record-britishbuilt-hybrid-rocket-car-aims-to-be-the-fastest-on-earth-10125305.html#

 I cannot help but muse on how many meteorites might be in that pile of rubble 
 and would it not be grand to search it?

 Regards,

 Count Deiro
 IMCA 3536 MetSoc

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Re: [meteorite-list] Oddball 'Crystal' Survived Crash to Earth Inside Meteorite

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

Can't see their logic that they are unlikely to survive because the
meteorites heat up insidewe all know that they don't?

Graham

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
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 Hello Listers

 Let hope some fossils will survive from Mars :)

 Enjoy!

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 Oddball 'Crystal' Survived Crash to Earth Inside Meteorite
 by Elizabeth Howell, Live Science Contributor   |   March 18, 2015
 07:53am ET

 A bizarre crystal-like mineral recently found in a meteorite that
 crashed to Earth perhaps 15,000 years ago adds more support for the idea
 that the fragile structure can survive in nature. But how it formed at
 the beginnings of the solar system is still a mystery.

 The newfound mineral is called a quasicrystal because it resembles a
 crystal, but the atoms are not arranged as regularly as they are in real
 crystals. The quasicrystal hitched a ride to Earth on a meteorite that
 zipped from space through Earth's atmosphere and crashed to the ground.
 That process is generally a violent one that heats up the insides of
 rocks, making the delicate quasicrystal's survival a surprise.

 The difference between crystals and quasicrystals can be visualized by
 imagining a tiled floor, said according to a statement by Princeton
 University in a press release. Tiles that are six-sided hexagons can
 fit neatly against each other to cover the entire floor. But five-sided
 pentagons or 10-sided decagons laid next to each will result in gaps
 between tiles.

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[meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live - 20th March

[Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list]

BIMS members will once again be showing meteorites for Stargazing Live
as part of the big event at Leicester Racecourse on the 20th. We have
been invited by the University of Leicester to be part of their
presentationSo far Martin Goff, Luther Jackson and I will be there
with parts of our collections on show.. the event is free so just turn
up and watch the eclipse from there and then join us to see/handle
some space rockslots of other space activities too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5TdSYVZCzSp1JDVCXgfdpVq/stargazing-events-2015

Should be a good day.

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[meteorite-list] Open University Meteorites on the Road

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Open Meteorites
Open University Meteorites on the Road

Thanks for the mention by Roy Adkin doing meteorite outreach
work...great to see the meteorites exciting children again.

https://openmeteorites.wordpress.com/

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