[meteorite-list] Moss, Norway meteorite laws and news
Hi everyone, I am in Chigcago, on my way home after a travel day from hell with stops in the UK and the chaos at the airports there. My advice, AVOID THE UK at all costs right now. Pretty much strip searches, plastic baggie with passport and money was all I could carry on, overflowing bins of goodies taken from people, thousands of bags on the ground sitting in the rain, endless lines and no-one seemed to have a clue what to do. My bags made is somehow, and I now have the Moss meteorites safely in my hands again, it was hard to sleep wondering if some airport lackey had deemed them as dangerous and tossed them in the incinerator! Now on to this Norwegian article condemning myself and my fellow meteorite hunters. I am dissapointed in reading it, since I had a meeting with the people from the National museum regarding the laws and was told that I was welcome to take anything I found or bought, since Norway had no law against it. Now it seems, that while true, they did not want to cooperate hunting with me as they suggested, but rather were just gathering information to use in harrasing me. I searched for 8 days in Moss, and never once ran into a scientists, museum curator, or any other official out hunting meteorites in the forest, mosquito-infested bogs, or streets of Moss. I met the museum people at my hotel for two hours, then they promtly took a bus back to Oslo. I guess hunting meteorites is not their forte, just complaining about those of us who save them from destruction and preserve them. The piece that Morten Bilet and I found was in a parking area at a large factory. Many pieces had been run over and crushed into grey piles of dust by the time we discovered it and saved over 800 grams of extremely rare material from further destruction. Now I am called a thief for legally removing it from Norway. I have already submitted pieces for classification, and the thin sections are being made and we will have perhaps preliminary classification by the end of the month. I have museums around the world already slated for pieces, and collectors as well. There is enough material for both the museums in Norway, the scientific world, and the private collection community to share. I am proud of what I do, the risks I take, and the time and energy I spend chasing these falls. Until I see legions of scientists out there doing it beside me, I know who is the one who provides them with their study material, and who saves the meteorites from destruction or loss. If Morten and I had not found our specimen when we did, it would be 800 grams of grey mud right now, not a pristine meteorite already in the lab! Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in M...
WOW, It looks like Jim Strope is the winner! I doubt more will be found at this point, almost a month after the fall. The only hope is more roof damage or whne the farmers cut their fields soon. I guess I have to give Jim a nice piece of my Moss meteorite since he outguessed us all almost to the gram. Michael Farmer -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/10/2006 1:21:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Morten just cleared that up Matteo, as of right now, just over 3 kilograms known. Michael Farmer - Thank you Mike. But we will need something much more precise to be able to declare a winner. Or, maybe there are more pieces out there that haven't been found yet, and we should wait a bit longer. As a reminder, here is the whole list. And No, you cannot change your mind now! Alex Seidel 4242.42g $142.42/g Andi Gren $199.95/g Anne Black1950.50g Bill 2345.68g Darren Garrison 12345g Fred Beroud2006.07g Jim Strope 3169g Marcin Cimala .99g $200/g Martin Altmann 11430g $200/g Martin Horejsi 2345.67g $100-$500/g Mike Farmer12500g Robert Matson 1600g Roman Jirasek 22kg$10-25/g Sterling Webb 3000g Susan Patton 1789.50g Tracy Latimer 2300g Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in M...
I think Strope got it right, it is over 3100.00 grams. Exaughsted from another day of Muonionalusta hunting. Out of 7 teams hunting today, there was only one 10 kilogram meteorite found. This area is odd, some days are great, some produce nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim or Sterling Jim guessed 3169g, and Sterling said 3000g. Now, which one is closest to the TKW? You better check those weights very closely before you give anything away. But it is very nice of you to offer a piece of the Moss meteorite as a prize. ;-) (I bet I'll hear from Jim!) Anne Black In a message dated 8/10/2006 2:53:34 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WOW, It looks like Jim Strope is the winner! I doubt more will be found at this point, almost a month after the fall. The only hope is more roof damage or whne the farmers cut their fields soon. I guess I have to give Jim a nice piece of my Moss meteorite since he outguessed us all almost to the gram. Michael Farmer -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/10/2006 1:21:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Morten just cleared that up Matteo, as of right now, just over 3 kilograms known. Michael Farmer - Thank you Mike. But we will need something much more precise to be able to declare a winner. Or, maybe there are more pieces out there that haven't been found yet, and we should wait a bit longer. As a reminder, here is the whole list. And No, you cannot change your mind now! Alex Seidel 4242.42g $142.42/g Andi Gren$199.95/g Anne Black1950.50g Bill 2345.68g Darren Garrison12345g Fred Beroud 2006.07g Jim Strope3169g Marcin Cimala .99g $200/g Martin Altmann11430g $200/g Martin Horejsi2345.67g $100-$500/g Mike Farmer12500g Robert Matson 1600g Roman Jirasek 22kg $10-25/g Sterling Webb 3000g Susan Patton 1789.50g Tracy Latimer 2300g Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss
What do you mean? I have been posting for a week that I have over 350 grams of this meteorite which will soon be for sale. Or do you mean the roof smasher piece? I for one, am glad that a stone of such beauty will remain intact, and not be smashed up for sale on ebay. Michael Farmer -- Original message -- From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bjorn all, Great photo a little trouble reading the text I guess this means not one gram of this meteorite will be available to collectors. Michael on 8/9/06 7:00 AM, Bjorn Sorheim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway: A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the first rains after the July 14th fall. A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage. 10 cm down in the roof the cause of the leakage was found, another meteorite! This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g). It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo by the company owning the storage building. This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.) http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009 Bjørn Sørheim, in Norway __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. -- Is our children learning? I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. More and more of our imports come from overseas. The very act of spending money can be expensive. George W. Bush __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Muonionalusta, Sweden Report
Hi everyone, we finally got some internet access here in Sweden, for the last 10 days I have been driving every other day to Finland to check emails, now I should have daily access until I leave for home. Well, today was my 8th day hunting, and I suppose you all saw the email that I found a 47 kilogram iron on my birthday, August 4th. Since then, Robert Ward and I have been searching hard for days with no success. Well, today we changed that up a bit. I found a 25 kilogram regmaglypted piece after an hour of searching this afternoon. Robert then found an 8 kilogram piece a little later. Then he got a weak signal with the 2x2 meter coil and no signal with the Minelab, so we knew he had a deep one. We dug for nearly two hours in glacial till, removing large rocks of at least 40 and 50 kilos, then found the meteorite at 1.6 meter deep. We thought for sure it would be a large one, but alas, he found a beautiful 4 kilogram Muonionalusta shaped just like a shoe! Well, I have all of tomorrow to search, then Friday driving half the day to ship my pieces as air cargo, then back for an afternoon of hunting, then out of here on Saturday. Monday night I will be home at last, free from the knats and mosquitos that have surely sucked a pint or two of blood from me! This has certainly been an interesting 3 weeks in the meteorite world. Michael Farmer Muonionalusta, Sweden __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss
Thanks Bjorn, It was nice to meet you in Moss. I am glad to see the stone protected in the museum in Norway. They now have two perfect stones, I hope they dont take a hammer to one of them or cut one! Michael Farmer -- Original message -- From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway: A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the first rains after the July 14th fall. A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage. 10 cm down in the roof the cause of the leakage was found, another meteorite! This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g). It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo by the company owning the storage building. This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.) http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009 Bjørn Sørheim, in Norway __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WOW, all hell is breaking loose in meteorite world!
Dang, what a note to see that a new fall has occured in India! I am now in Finland, on my way back to Sweden to hunt Muonionalusta. By this time tomorrow, I plan to have a pile of irons, a bag full of CC, and be making plans for India trip as well! I have sent specimens of the Moss Norway fall to a top scientist in the USA to work on, so we might have an idea soon. I have many fragments as does Morten Bilet. It will be up for sale in a few weeks, but there is not much to offer as most fragments are small, around 1 or 2 grams, but we have some larger ones. I will likely be offering my larger pieces to Museums in trade. I may well be back in Moss, Norway in a few days, but the Sweden trip was planned and we would have lost our plane tickets if we didnt go today. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norway CO3 Fall
Time for another meteorite report from Norway. Well, we lost one team member as Bob Haag bugged out and flew back to Tucson today. We have been wlaking, hiking, swimming, and driving all over the fall area with still no luck. This area is awful for meteorite hunting. We know another piece was found but no information. We have a feature article coming out tomorrow in the regional newspaper, and Haag, Karl, Ward, and myself were on the Norway national news last night. It should drum up some information. The locals are also beggining to come home from vacations, so I expect some more homes and gardens were hit by falling stars! I expect so spend until Tuesday here, then it is on to Sweden for some serious Muonionalusta digging! So as it stands, the newest meteorite fall is a tough nut to crack and not something that will be flooding the market anytime soon. Michael Farmer Moss, Norway. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NORWAY meteorite hunt
I think that between Haag, myself, Rainer Bartochewitz (who classifies meteorite) and the others, we have a pretty good handle on the simple fact that it is a carbonaceous chondrite. The CO3´s are pretty distinct, so I think this one is in the bag as a CO3. But of course, only the final classification will confirm for all. Due to a vehicle problem, part of my day today will be spent in repair mode. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mike, Well, it is 12:24 am here in Moss Norway, and I just came up from some heavy drinking with a heck of a batch of meteorite hunters. We have Robert Ward, Robert Haag, and myself representing the USA. Moritz Karl, Alexander Gehler, Rainer Bartowtzewich (sp?) and Thomas Kurtz from Germany here tonight. You're missing a USA representative on site ... perhaps by now you've crossed paths. WE saw many others today and yesterday though, even Poland was well represented. Though a prior team has implied that a Poland team was disrespectful of private property. Shameful if true. None from France, or Austria, or the UK though. Surprising, indeed. I would have imagined Rob Elliott or one of the Carions might have made the journey. Now, on to the meteorite! It IS A CO, Carbonaceous. NO DOUBT unless it gets some wierd exception in classification. So I was right, as were many others who guessed CO2 or CO3. CO2??? You must be drinking some good stuff over there! ;-) In the face of overwhelming popular opinion to the contrary, I'll stick to my guns and assume it ISN'T a CO3 until I hear/read otherwise from someone who has done a formal classification. Thanks for the up-to-date report from the field! Keep your eyes open for others from the good old US of A... --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NORWAY meteorite hunt
Hi everyone. Well, it is 12:24 am here in Moss Norway, and I just came up from some heavy drinking with a heck of a batch of meteorite hunters. We have Robert Ward, Robert Haag, and myself representing the USA. Moritz Karl, Alexander Gehler, Rainer Bartowtzewich (sp?) and Thomas Kurtz from Germany here tonight. WE saw many others today and yesterday though, even Poland was well represented. None from France, or Austria, or the UK though. Now, on to the meteorite! It IS A CO, Carbonaceous. NO DOUBT unless it gets some wierd exception in classification. So I was right, as were many others who guessed CO2 or CO3. It is a meteorite that will take your breath away! It also had the misfortune of falling in one of the worst imaginable places for searching! This area is of course, absolutely beautiful, fjords, trees, endless berrys to eat like strawberrys, blueberrys, and raspberrys, lots of tall, blonde women, and it is not 400,000 degrees like Tucson right now. What is wrong is that it is high growing season, so every flat surface is being farmed with full grown wheat, barley, peas, cabbage, etc. Every other surface is extremely heavy forest with deep layers of moss that you sink in, lakes, swamps, or fjords full of cruise ships. Their is absolutely no place to easily search other than a few parks and shopping centers and industrial sites. From the siye of the fireball, it is certain that there are many pieces, but highly unlikely that much will be found other than by locals in their yards, and most locals are on vacation and not here. So to end so that I can get some sleep for the first time in 3 days, there is little news to report so far other than Norway got lucky with a fabulous new CC. Now it is time to feed the mosquitoes while I sleep for the few hours of darkness there is in this part of the world at this time of the year. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions ending.
Hi everyone. I am still in Europe but flying home today after a long two weeks of the Ensishim and Saint Marie aux Mines shows. I have several very nice meteorites ending on ebay today and tomorrow. See them all at the links below. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoritehunters http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorite-hunter Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim, here I come!
Well, it's June, so it must be France this month. I am sitting in Dallas on my way to Ensisheim and Saint Marie aux Mines shows. I look forward to the wine and good times that come with it at the show. See you all in 48 hours. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Holy crap-- can anyone confirm this? Any vikings on the list?
That is one huge deserted area, lots of empty forest for a meteorite to be lost in. I will wait till pieces are reported, then damn skippy, I will be there. Otherwise, see all my European friends in Ensisheim in a week! Mike Farmer PS, we only found on Glorieta yesterday, we got caught up on top of a mountain during a huge thunderstorm and were soaked to the bone for about 2 hours, hiding from lightning bolts, and then slip-sliding back down the mountain in clay mud! And people wonder why Glorieta costs so much! -- Original message -- From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece Record meteorite hit Norway As Wednesday morning dawned, northern Norway was hit with an impact comparable to the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima. At around 2:05 a.m. on Wednesday, residents of the northern part of Troms and the western areas of Finnmark could clearly see a ball of fire taking several seconds to travel across the sky. A few minutes later an impact could be heard and geophysics and seismology research foundation NORSAR registered a powerful sound and seismic disturbances at 02:13.25 a.m. at their station in Karasjok. Farmer Peter Bruvold was out on his farm in Lyngseidet with a camera because his mare Virika was about to foal for the first time. I saw a brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this became a light with a tail of smoke, Bruvold told Aftenposten.no. He photographed the object and then continued to tend to his animals when he heard an enormous crash. I heard the bang seven minutes later. It sounded like when you set off a solid charge of dynamite a kilometer (0.62 miles) away, Bruvold said. Astronomers were excited by the news. There were ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain was blown into the house, Norway's best known astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told Aftenposten.no. Røed Ødegaard said the meteorite was visible to an area of several hundred kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight sunlit summer sky. The meteorite hit a mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms. This is simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that we have had such a powerful meteorite impact in Norway in modern times. If the meteorite was as large as it seems to have been, we can compare it to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force we may be able to compare it to the (atomic) bomb, Røed Ødegaard said. The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock and probably the largest known to have struck Norway. The record was the Alta meteorite that landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably larger, Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the object or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hi from Glorieta Mountain!
Yes, but they are all small pieces, not quite like the treasures you have uncovered. Oh well, there is always today, we are running a little late today, but it stays light here until after 8 pm. Just heading out in a few minutes! Mike -- Original message -- From: Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow Mike, 9 pieces in 1 day. That is a good day in Glorieta. Congrats On 6/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone, just a quick note from Santa Fe, New Mexico. I have been busting my rear (really) while hiking up and down the steep mountains here in Glorieta today. We found 9 pieces of this pallasite! I found 2 and my hunting partner found 7;(. I am doing a photo shoot for Southwest Airlines Magazine, where in August they will have a feature article about me and meteorite hunting. One of the hunting photos from today may actually make the cover shot. This should be a nice boost to meteorite hunting, since the magazine is in every seat on every Southwest flight for a month, that is a perfect, captive audience to read about something they normally would not ever see. Anyway, I am just excited for having found some nice pallasite individuals today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller Po Box 314 Gerber Ca 96035 www.meteoritefinder.com 530-385-1281 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD, weekly ebay sale. $3000.00 in meteorites ending
I have over 50 meteorites ending Wednesday on ebay, some great items! Virtually all listed starting at one cent! Over $3000 in meteorites up for grabs. Some examples and key items: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634242368 My last set of 4 Lunar and Martian meteorites! This is several hundred $$$ of Planetary material. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634214646 NWA 2977, rare GABBRO Lunar meteorite with Zagami-like fusion crust. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634206458 Beautiful 3.5 KILO Sikhote-Alin shrapnel piece. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634243932 Large complete Gibeon slice with unique etch pattern! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634234413 22 gram OLIVINE DIOGENITE piece, this is my last large piece, valued at over $700.00, up for one cent! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634213354 LARGE endcut of NWA 1934, never before sold CV3. 143 gram endcut, one of my largest pieces of this old carbonaceous chondrite. This piece is worth well over $500.00. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634238160 82 gram slice of NWA 1941, blue chondrite! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6634232168 Nice .4 gram fragment of Murchison. Of course many many more items, many still at one cent! See them all at the links below. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoritehunters http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorite-hunter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hi from Glorieta Mountain!
Hey everyone, just a quick note from Santa Fe, New Mexico. I have been busting my rear (really) while hiking up and down the steep mountains here in Glorieta today. We found 9 pieces of this pallasite! I found 2 and my hunting partner found 7;(. I am doing a photo shoot for Southwest Airlines Magazine, where in August they will have a feature article about me and meteorite hunting. One of the hunting photos from today may actually make the cover shot. This should be a nice boost to meteorite hunting, since the magazine is in every seat on every Southwest flight for a month, that is a perfect, captive audience to read about something they normally would not ever see. Anyway, I am just excited for having found some nice pallasite individuals today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Munionalusta watch
Yes, it looks nice, but there is no information on that page! How much is it? Where can it be bought? Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha, great watch. http://www.horlogerie-suisse.com/2005/antoine/tourbi.html -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Leaving the country for some weeks.
Hi everyone, I am leaving the country again on Thursday, and will be gone at least two weeks, perhaps more. Anyone in Europe who wants to buy anything, I can ship on Friday from Europe so please let me know by Wednesday. On the new Morocco fall; I do not question why Morocco is so blessed by the meteorite god, I embrace it. There is no doubts as to the authenticity of Benguerir (in many newspapers and reported from Marrakech and other places. Benguerir was also reported in news in Morocco. Oum Dreyga was reported and recovered in a hevily military zone, so much more difficult for me or anyone else to operate in the zone. I am not sure why Matteo cant handle the facts, but they are crystal clear. For the reason why Egypt, or Mauritania might not get so many recovered falls, well, Morocco is well settled all over the country, Egypt and Mauritania are very sparsely settled, with people all concentrated in urban areas, so any falls outside those areas have virtually no chance of recovery. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: new fall
Perhaps when you use common sense, you might understand the cause for so many witnessed recovered falls in Morocco. It is a desert, so searching is not difficult. It is almost always clear, so most falls would be seen by someone. It is a very hot country, so the culture there means people are outside well into the nighttime where in most western nations, most people are inside staring at their televisions come nighttime. It is a country where almost everyone has heard about meteorites and they equate the fall with $$$. Just as many meteorites are falling elsewhere but people don't report it because it is just another event. Michael Farmer -- Original message -- From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] what is it? Morocco have a magnet for meteorites? Every year a fall Matteo --- Nelson Oakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: - Original Message - From: Nelson Oakes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: Fw: new fall Dear List, All of Erfoud is in an uproar!! A very large, slowly moving meteorite has detonated over the town, witnessed by many hundreds of tourists in Aziz's hotel as well as many Erfoudians! Aziz actually saw it first as he was driving from the hotel towards his home in Erfoud! The object was seen to split into hundreds of flaming individuals that then fell towards the earth. The time was recorded as 2040 GMT. More news coming!!! Thanks Nels - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: new fall Hi nels At 20.45 a giant meteorite explosed over erfoud all the tourist taking dinner saw it Very slow going meteorite it s explosed in hundred fragment I can say its the biggest fall I have seen It flying like a bird not fast I called my friend in errhachidia they heard the explosion We will be hunting early tomorrow aziz habibi. GM palm's hotel club . www.palmotel.com. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Bolletta salata? Passa a Yahoo! Messenger with Voice http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My first martian meteorite
Are Moroccans now doing field classifications? What might I ask, leads you to know it is a Martian meteorite if it is not in your hands yet? Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I have buy my first martian meteorite from a moroccan dealer days ago. Its little, at 16 grams, but its a martian meteorite. When arrive I put some photos of the mass, and after I cut for the analysis. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 60o kilos of chondrites are here!
Anyone in Tucson, as I type this, Mohammed and Jim and Hans Koser are right now outside my room unloading and opening the boxes of 60o kilos of chondrites. First come, first to find the treasures. With the Lunar purchase, I dont have the dough left to worry about buying more meteorites, so they are for the rest of you guys. Good luck, there are some nive LARGE stones here. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] link to photo of new meteorites
http://meteoriteguy.com/mohamed.JPG Here we are, Jim took this photo 5 minutes ago. Mike A lot of large pieces, up to 60 kilos! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list
Here is the official list of Lunar meteorites. Not sure where the 120 # came from, there are only 38 official known lunar meteorites. We know of a couple more that are being worked on, but this is it. http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list
Why do that, they are paired pieces, some of the Oman meteorites for example, 20 stones were found, they are all numbered, but not different meteorites. There are 38 seperate unpaired lunar meteorites. Hell, I have about 10,000 gao stones, so should they all be numbered and given new names? -- Original message -- From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I counted the individually numbered lunar meteorites, its over well over 100, count them. http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: dfreeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar meteorite list 38+ 30(???) = 68 Dave F. not the sharpest knife in the drawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the official list of Lunar meteorites. Not sure where the 120 # came from, there are only 38 official known lunar meteorites. We know of a couple more that are being worked on, but this is it. http://epsc.wustl.edu/admin/resources/meteorites/moon_meteorites_list.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Then like Brenham or Brahin, you pays your money and you takes your chances? Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing environment. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta. This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now when we try to discuss that fact, several people have been emailing and calling me to complain that I should not say that if I dont have any. I find that terrible, it seems that people want to sell it knowing full well that the meteorite they are charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious problem ruster. Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may rust, this the very low price for that danger built into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers are trying to avoid that fact with the super-expensive Fukang. This is my point. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint like buying coins. All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then like Brenham or Brahin, you pays your money and you takes your chances? Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing. Mike -- Original message -- From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished. I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add). So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing environment. Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites without specimen cards
Steve, come on now, if you can use a computer, you can use Microsoft Word or Works and create a business card, if you can do that, it is simple to then make a specimen card. I print them by the thousands, it takes 5 minutes to make a new card once you save a template. Mike -- Original message -- From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi and good afternoon list.Something that really pisses me off is when you buy a meteorite on ebay,from either prominent meteorite people or people who are not so reliable.I just picked up a 40 slice of julesburg,colorado with a huss # on it and it came WITHOUT a specimen card.I admit,I have sold on ebay without specimen cards,I do not like it,but I have nothing to send if I have not gotten a card from someone who sends the piece to me.Then I have to write out on an index card the item name.It would be nice if we all could send cards with our pieces.Any thoughts from anyone else who has had this problem? steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: what country is the hardest to get meteoritesfrom?
Try Panama, NONE, ZERO meteorites found there. But I will get one sooner or later. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try to get an Austrian Meteorite ! That's a challenge ! Cheers, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Marmet Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:28 PM To: Meteoritenliste Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: what country is the hardest to get meteoritesfrom? Hi JKGwilliam, Steve and All, Zambia has a nice L6(Monze) and this one can be easily purchased from Eric Twelker, Allan Lang,... so I guess, to get meteorites from SAN MARINO is even more difficult;-)! Peter JKGwilliam wrote: Hello Steve, In my opinion, the country that is the hardest to obtain meteorites from is Zambia. Best, JKGwilliam At 08:31 PM 1/5/2006, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote: Good evening list.With tucson rapidly approaching,I really hope that there is some of the fukang pallasite available.I have never seen such secrecy surrounding a meteorite.Well if there is some there I am going to buy a piece.Any thought on what the availibility will be?Also while I am thinking about it,which country is the hardest to obtain meteorites from?CANADA,AUSTRALIA,CHINA,etc.I am wondering if some others might be able to shead some thought on this. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day, with no risk involved. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mike Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a few months ago . Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but in Minnesota . Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here . If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container . May your day do well Ken Regelman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap. Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice. Mike Farmer -- Original message -- From: AstronomicalResearchNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said . I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota . One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months. It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing specimens . Ken Regelman Astronomical Research Network http://www.meteorites4sale.net/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks for the help.
I want to thank all who offered advice and help with my email problems. I have not solved it yet, but will work on it. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I am flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions end. Some notable specimens are below. All items end TONIGHT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571115440 An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571479732 Beautiful carved meteorite bead. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570593403 Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571137341 Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try to find that price anywhere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=657114 90 gram meteorite sphere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571127330 Large Gibeon etched egg. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571147796 Very nice Esquel micro. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570525213 91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570530109 Very nice LL3.7 piece. Many are still at one cent! See all I have for sale at these two links below. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: large meteorite sale tonight.
I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I am flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions end. Some notable specimens are below. All items end TONIGHT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571115440 An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571479732 Beautiful carved meteorite bead. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570593403 Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571137341 Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try to find that price anywhere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=657114 90 gram meteorite sphere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571127330 Large Gibeon etched egg. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571147796 Very nice Esquel micro. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570525213 91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570530109 Very nice LL3.7 piece. Many are still at one cent! See all I have for sale at these two links below. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Mike Farmer I have loaded another 40 meteorites on ebay, most starting at one cent as usual. There are over $2000.00 in meteorites up for grabs tonight. I am flying home today from Paris, so will not be home until after the auctions end. Some notable specimens are below. All items end TONIGHT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571115440 An Oriented Sikhote-Alin that you have to see to believe! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571479732 Beautiful carved meteorite bead. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570593403 Very nice flight-oriented Dhofar main mass. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571137341 Very nice 350 gram Gibeon piece, less than 10 cents per gram right now! Try to find that price anywhere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=657114 90 gram meteorite sphere. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571127330 Large Gibeon etched egg. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6571147796 Very nice Esquel micro. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570525213 91 gram Muonionalusta complete slice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6570530109 Very nice LL3.7 piece. Many are still at one cent! See all I have for sale at these two links below. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich notes
Hi everyone, After a hectic two days of perusing the massive Munich show, it is finally over, and I will be on my way home tomorrow with a stop in Paris. The weather here has been incredible, over 70 degrees and not a cloud in the sky the last two days! Very abnormal for Germany at the end of October. The show was interesting, a lot of people who usually set up were not here. Some things of note, the Moroccans has virtually NO meteorites, compared to last year, there was like 10% what they used to have. Also there was a lot of the ´Fuking` Pallasite from China. It was being offered at less than 10Euros a gram in large chunks, I saw pieces from 100 grams to 2 kilos. Apparently the buyers have divided the massive pallasite up and are now going to flood the market. Looks like a good buying opportunity when the price collapses. It is beautiful stuff, but with over 900 kilos, coming on the market, we know where this goes. There were ZERO large gibeons or Sikhotes, except a couple at Erich Haiderer´s always full table. Moritz again had the best display of rare material, with Martian, Lunar, Pallasite, and nice irons from Aussie museum trades. Hans had the usual rally nice Campos, and Karl Sprich many nice Gibeon pieces cut into spheres and cubes. Moldavites are everywhere. I may have broken a planetary record in Morocco, so get your pennies rolled and wait for the news. Michael Farmer Munich __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich, here I come
Hi everyone, I have been in the Moroccan desert for a week, and am finally back in Paris, taking overnight train to Munich tonight. I got a heck of a pile of nice meteorites, so expect some spectacular specimens in the near future. See you all tomorrow. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Only for Mark Bostik - Others delete
Mark Respectfully; why dont you keep ,e out of your email/fight with Matteo. I do not infue you into my pissing matches with the Italian freakboy. It is not my problem, fight; or business; so keep me and my name out of it. It is nice to see that you are not playing farmer whatever that means; but you are fighting with him on the list, so I guess you actually are. Mike Hello Matteo and list, I will cover a couple things here and answer you privately a little as well. To say I have not answered your e-mails is highly misleading. I have answered like 20-25. I have not answered all 50-60 you have sent. You were given shipping options and you chose the higher, which did not cost you $35. $35 was figured using the www.usps.com website, and since it did not cost that I refunded almost half back to you. You did not ask me to do this or the like. I think the website figured shipping at 1 pound. Not sure, however I did show you how the rate was figured. Now, if you continue to e-mail as you have, or if you e-mail the list on me again, I will simply block you. You may think this is some game, I do not. I am not interested in playing Farmer with you and will not do so. Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Alert
This is q very common and old scam. If something seems odd, strange, out of place, or illegal, it probably is. Usually the scam involves the person wanting you to keep extra money, and only sending pqrt to them, that is to get you to overlook the facts and play on your greed so you quickly cash the check and send them money. Mike Farmer Dear IMCA and List Members, I was approached by a fellow calling himself Tim Trepagnier who claimed he was representing a client who was interested in one of my specimens that did not sell on ebay. He stipulated that the client would send me a money order in an amount greater than the asking price. The excess amount was supposed to be his commission and he wanted me to wire the difference to him immediately after cashing the check. This raised some suspicion with me but I did not want to think the worse. I have been involved in some pretty awkward international transactions before so I gave the benefit of the doubt to the deal until the money orders arrived. The first thing I noticed was that the envelope came from Spain and that no return address was on it. I opened the envelope and found that instead of a single money order, there were four totaling $3,600.00. The cost of the item he was pretending to be interested in was only $449.00 so I suspected he was trying to launder money through me. I called Travelers Express Company, the bank in which the money orders were drawn and waited on hold for 40 minutes. The scam artist(s) thought that most people would not tolerate the long hold times and assumed victims would think the checks were good since a real phone number was on the back of the check. After waiting on hold I found that the checks were counterfeits and that unbelievably several people have fallen for this scam. The way the scam was supposed to work is that I would have gone to my bank and received cash for the excess amount ($3,151.00) thinking the checks were good and then send it Western Union to the scam artist. He would get the good money right away realizing that my bank would latter find out the checks were counterfeit. I would have been out the full $3,600.00 and suffered the humiliation it would have caused. Not only that, I would have sent the specimen to a bogus address, maybe never getting it back. It would seem pretty obvious to most that a scam was about to be perpetrated in these circumstances but most like to think the best of people and might have fallen for it. This is what the scam artist(s) is counting on and I hate to see somebody get burned. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite collection SOLD
Well, it is official, I have sold my entire meteorite collection to none other than Matt Morgan. We spent last night in Denver going through the collection and setting it up at Matt's home. I still have a few pieces, but not much. Panama, here I come! Here is a photo of Matt and I setting up his case with all his new meteorites. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/matt_mike.jpg. I will be back in Denver next week, prowling around the show there, so I hope to see many of you there. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall in Zimbabwe?
Damn, too bad I am in Panama right now, or I would be there in a heartbeat Of course, Mugabe would want me to pay him for that stone. Mike Farmer http://www.zimbabweherald.com/index.php?id=46403 Meteorite leaves villagers dumbfounded By Freeman Razemba The Herald (Zimbabwe) August 30, 2005 VILLAGERS in Dotito, Mount Darwin were left dumbfounded last week and are living in fear after they discovered a black stone, which is believed to have fallen from the outer space. The stone known as meteorite was 21cm long and 13cm wide, weighing about 4,1kg. It has since been taken to Forensic Scientists Laboratory at the Criminal Investigations Department (CID) in Harare for further investigations. These types of stones fall to the earth and contain grains of nickel-iron and metal. Mashonaland Central police spokesperson Inspector Michael Munyikwa said several villagers from Chaworeka Village heard noise like that of a helicopter last Monday at around 5pm. The villagers heard some noise, which resembled that of a helicopter, coming from the eastern direction and the noise was followed by clouds of dust, he said. Insp Munyikwa said the stone fell on the ground a few minutes later and about metres away from a Mr Jeriko Muzanembi's homestead. He was cutting some poles in a field when the incident occurred. Mr Muzanembi and other villagers teamed up and went to investigate and discovered that it was an object, which looked like a stone. The impact of the stone cut 15cm deep into the earth when it landed on the ground and the villagers discovered that it was an object which looked like a stone. It was black in colour and had white particles inside, said Insp Munyikwa. A report was made to the police who informed the forensic scientists, geologists and the army. It was taken to Dotito Police Station and later, to Harare. According to some scientists, the stone could have changed its size, colour and weight as it was falling to the ground, as a result of high temperatures, which could have been more than 2 000 Degrees Celsius. Police said after completing their investigations with the help of some experts, the stone would be taken to the National Museum. A meteorite is a small extra-terrestrial body that reaches the earth's surface. While in space these bodies are called meteoroids and they are called meteors after entering earth's atmosphere but before reaching the surface. These are small asteroids, approximately boulder sized or less. When it enters the atmosphere, air drag and friction cause the body to heat up and emit light, thus forming a fireball or shooting star. Throughout the ages, meteorites were venerated as sacred objects by different cultures and ancient civilisations. The spectacular fall of a meteorite, accompanied by light and sound phenomena, such as falling stars, smoke, thunder, and sonic booms, has always kindled the human imagination, evoking fear and awe in everyone who witnesses such an event. For obvious reasons, the remnants of these incidents, the actual meteorites, were often kept as sacred stones or objects of power. They were worshiped, and used in their respective religious ceremonies. However, a meteorite on a celestial body is a small object that has come from elsewhere in space. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canyon Diablo
They are being hunted now. Mike Farmer Walter, It isn't well known, but there were some hidden caches in various shops and homes in Northern Arizona. Several years ago, I talked with a person in the Kingman area who reportedly had literally tons of Canyon Diablo meteorites in storage. Although I never got him to disclose the actual weight of what he was sitting on, several contacts did tell me that he had a whole room full. Someone else told me they saw several boxes of rusty iron meteorites in the back room of a rock shop along Interstate 40 (Route 66) back in the 1980s. This could be the same place or it could be two different locations. I'm sure that there is a lot of CD material stashed away throughout Arizona. Five or so years ago, I was visiting the father of an old friend of mine and saw a picture of him (as a young boy) with a big iron meteorite that I estimated to weigh 70-80 lbs. This 85 year old fellow told me how he and his father had driven to Meteor Crater back in the 1930s and returned home to Globe (Arizona) with the big iron in the back of their Model T. It sat on the front porch of their house for a couple of decades until the family moved. No one seems to remember where it is now, but they thought it was left on the porch because it was too heavy to move to Phoenix. When I asked him why he and his father had made such a long, rough trip (on mostly dirt or gravel roads) he told me it was a popular thing for the copper miners in the Globe/Miami/Superior area to do for recreation! There is also the possibility that some meteorite hunters are still working in the strewn field even though it is now illegal. Best, JKGwilliam At 10:04 AM 6/28/2005, Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Would someone please tell me where all the Canyon Diablo is coming from? I used to not see as much Canyon Diablo but now I see kg upon kg on ebay and sites. I presume plenty was available the Tucson show. I mean, has some hoard or hidden cache been found? -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD, NWA 801 since we were in the subject.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535594528 Take a look at this piece! Check out the armored chondrule on the left, isn't that incredible! Looks like it was just dipped in molten iron. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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RE: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Meteorite
What do you mean not classified yet. It is classified, and is in the new Meteoritical Bulletin. I arranged Dr Bunch of NAU to work on it, which he did along with Rhian Jones in Albuquerque. Mike Farmer Very nice piece Mark. I am offering some of the NO meteorite up for sale as well. Email me off-list if interested. Both small and larger pieces. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MARK BOSTICK Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:43 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Meteorite Hello List, Within a couple weeks the New Orleans meteorite will be making it's way to the market. The meteorite has not been classified yet, however it looks a lot like Bensour or Kilabo to me. I imagine this was posted to the list about a year ago, but the BBC did a really good job on its article, by just quoting the homeowner and not putting in any price speculation or untrue facts. So forgive me for reposting it, if that is the case. Here is a 64g fragment with sheetrock that was not water damaged. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colneworleans.html Mark Bostick BBC News United Kingdom Date: Monday, October 6, 2003 'A meteorite smashed through my roof' The chances of being hit by a chunk of space rock are measured in the billions-to-one. Roy Fausset, 59, had the closest of escapes last month when what scientists now say was a meteorite crashed through his New Orleans home. I walked through my front door and it was like a mortar bomb had fallen on my house. There was dust all over the floor of the entrance way and the two doors leading to a utility room and the powder room had been blown open. There was ceiling debris everywhere. I thought it must have been a broken pipe, but there was no water. As I was coming home, I'd noticed something on the roof, but had thought nothing of it. It turned out there was a hole the size of a basketball through the tiles. Whatever it was, it had passed through the attic, then my daughter's bedroom, through the powder room and into the crawl space under the floor. I thought it must have been some frozen waste that had fallen from a passenger airliner - they are carrying out improvements at our local airport, so planes have been diverted over our house. I called the police. An investigator went down into the crawl space and he found some rock fragments. There are no rocks in New Orleans, it's all silt. He said: 'It's a meteorite.' I took a sample over to the nearby Tulane University, where Stephen Nelson - the head of earth and environmental sciences department - examined it. He said the rock was rhyolite - which is found in Mexico and Texas. He thought it must have been thrown out of a plane by a vandal or become attached to a plane somehow and then fallen off. But now, after further analysis, it seems it has a profile consistent with that of a meteorite. The police investigator was right. I've collected up all the pieces. It's not a meteorite from Mars or Venus, which sell for $1,500 a gram. It probably came from an asteroid, so is only worth $3 - $10 a gram. It might help with the repairs. But I don't care about the money. I'm just very grateful that no one was injured. We really dodged the bullet. If anyone had been at home, they might have been killed. I think just hearing the noise would have caused me to expire. One of my neighbours was out in her yard with her children eating popsicles. They heard the impact and thought it was a car accident. If it had fallen 100 feet away, they could all have died. I've been very disorientated by the whole thing, especially when I consider what a narrow escape we all had and what could have happened. I keep asking: Why me? Maybe God was telling me something? I certainly went to church on Sunday and I will never mock Him as I did in my foolish youth. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---BeginMessage--- attachment: winmail.dat---End Message--- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] From the strewnfield of the newest meteorite fall.............
Hi everyone, I am writing from the strewnfield of the newest meteorite fall on Earth, aproaching 36 hours old right now. Not many people know about it, but I do, I am here now. I wonder if it will be public soon? It seems that only me and a very small handfull of people know about it even though it is in the USA. I was hunting with several famous meteorite hunters all day today and will be again monday. More info from me when I decide to let the other so-called meteorite hunters in on the secret or it breaks on the list. Anyway, lots of fun from the strewnfields. Mike Farmer Beautiful fireball videos of this one. Please do not call me until I write the list back, I am really busy. this will likely be the only email for a day or two, as you all know, this is a busy time at the beginning of a new fall. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] moroccan fall stats
Well, without getting into the politics of it, it is the same country, no borders, same money, all maps show it, I know about Morocco taking it over but it is what it is. Until someone frees it, it is now Morocco. Mike Farmer Michael, Adam, Serguey, list, Sorry to mess a round. Western Sahara is NOT Morocco. Not at all. History: Western Sahara is a country which has been invaded in 1975 by Hassan II troops, on its western part. ( Atlantic side) just after the Spanish colonial occupation ceased. There is an interposition force, ruled by UN, called MINURSO that tries to keep the country in peace, since 1976 ( if my old memory is good. ) A berm ( sand wall) was raised by Morocco to stop the Polisario troops ( the regular Western Sahara army) to free the invaded side of its country Geography: It seems to me that, according the info that gave Adam, the 16 october fall happened in the still free territories, under Polisario control. On another hand, Smara is in Western Sahara on the moroccan occupied side. Adams forwarded map is really clear. Economy: My meteorites are cosmic material like yours ! My 2 cents, Michel FRANCO, hunting in Western Sahara, among other countries. Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] moroccan fall stats ok, but are you including western sahara whis is morocco? and the border areas of algeria and muaratania. you have been here so you know how large and open the area is. mike --- Sergey Vasiliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is four falls in the last 8 years, in an area MUCH larger than germany Not really MUCH larger, Mike: Germany: 356,959 square kilometers. The area of Morocco is 458,730 sq km (177,120 sq mi). Regards, Sergey --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 2/20/2004 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] An insight to Amgala and other recent falls
gotta answer a few points Adam, 1. I destroyed Thuathe? I got almost 20 kilograms from the locals, paid them a FAIR price unlike Mr Ronnie McKenzie who was happy to pay then one CENT per gram. I sold for $6.00 to $8 gram, so Im not sure how that is destroying the price. Perhaps you can clarify that one for me? Did you not hand me the paperwork for it? Tell us all please if I somehow stole it from you. I was offended by your partners wife, so instead of buying from you, I went and got it myself. Again, I fail to see the problem. 2. Bensour, I got over 25 kilos of that fall. I was at the tucson show when it fell, I never said or implied that I was the first, Dean Bessey posted it for sale if I recall before anyone. you seem to imply that I destroyed Bensour by selling at a loss. No Adam, I think I cost myself alot of money, and made some EXTREMELY happy collectors and museums. you seem to think that collectors want to pay top dollar? Again, I fail to see the logic in that post. I got a meteorite, had a spat with Bessy, and sold cheap to make a point. The point was made I belive. So I guess a few dealers were not happy. I am not here to please other dealers, only my customers and myself. 3. On this fall, fine, so be it, I did not know you had it, have been busy in the field in Oman and elswhere, while you sit at home getting DHL packages, so since you did get it first, my hat is off to you, congratulations, I know you like to play junior scientist, so go for it. I never said I was the only one on this, I announced it when I got it in my hands, if that broke open your little secret, well, I guess you should have coordinated with me on that. And I did not say you made up anything to trump me, however, it would not be the first time that someone has posted that they have tons of material when they do not. Casper used to do that all the time, he did it with NWA 482 and many other meteorites. I dont think that asking to see the material is a problem if you have it? If that is a problem, tell us what it is? 4. why would I damage the market? I want o offer my customers a good price while making a profit for myself and my partners, that is the crux of American business. Are you saying I should mark it up many more times than I paid? What price do you want Adam, $100 gram, $50 gram? The things you said Adam were wrong, I have answered them point by point logically. I would think the collectors on this list want good meteorites at the best possible prices. If you are telling me that they are angry that I sold Bensour cheap, damn, I had better raise my prices accross the board and make everyone happy again. Ill bet that will raise some smiles from my customers. Adam, sorry I stumbled onto your fall. This was my 30th COUNT them 30 trips to Morocco. I think you have been ONE time? hello Dear Mike and List Members, This post is not intended to be argumentative but could be perceived by some as being so. We just want to make our position known in regards to the new fall and other issues that were brought up by Mike Farmer on his latest posts. Do not worry, our intentions are not to get involved in perpetual arguements on the List as this has proven to be most unproductive in the past. First of all Mike, you were not the first to report this new fall. Check with the University of Washington and NAU. A few List members have been aware that we were working on this fall for some time and can vouch for us, not that this is needed. I will not respond to your ridiculous accusations that we have a few samples and made all this up to scoop you. Time will show who is telling the truth and in very short order. We forgive you for accidentally stumbling onto this fall months after the fact. We are not too worried about you damaging the market this time with your share that only amounts to a few hundred grams after you divide it up with your investors. Secondly Mike, you were never the first to report any new fall that we are aware of. If your memory serves you correctly, and let the record show, that we were the first to submit samples of Bensour to the scientific community within 5 days of the fall. A month had elapsed before you recovered any Bensour, long after Dean Bessey, Rob Elliot and ourselves made it available to market. As a matter of fact, we even announced the name and classification before you made your supposed trip to Bensour. We never claimed we went to the Bensour region but you did. We told the NomCom to get the coordinates from you since you claimed to have been to this dangerous area but, of course, no coordinates were provided. This is the last piece of data needed to make Bensour an official fall. Step up to the plate and provide this most crucial data and impress us all. Another note, You destroyed the price of Bensour by selling it for less than your cost at $2.80 a gram just to get even with Bessey. When a well known
Re: [meteorite-list] Thauthe comments that were made earlier
See Adam, that is the entire problem as I see it. We were in the field, 10,000 miles from home DOING IT, while you were sending emails and talking. I KNOW what went on there as does ERIC. WE WERE THERE, you never went there. So please dont try to tell us ANYTHING that went on in Thuathe. I love armchair warriors. Mike Farmer Hello Eric and List, I will not bring Thuathe up again as I was told a completely different field price was being paid by our supplier. I have no reason to doubt your word, Eric so I will leave this one alone. I was only responding to an email I thought was posted to the List earlier mentioning Thuathe. No hard feelings, just expressing what I believed to be true, Adam - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] An insight to Amgala and other recent falls The 23 kilograms was stuck in customs for months while you proceeded to destroy the market with the couple of kilos you purchased from natives in the field paying way too much. This caused our supplier to raise his prices to the point it was no longer attractive and we sent most of the material back. These statements have been made a couple times in the past and I have kept my mouth shut knowing Mike would respond. But as the other member of thuathe trip this time I decided to post the facts. Mike and I paid between $0.50 and $0.90 per gram to the villagers for their thuathe. We also bought several kilograms from Tony Ambrose for $2.00 per gram. We were told on numerous occasions by many unrelated sources that Tony was paying $0.10 per gram or less. Yes, we paid 5-10 times what Tony was paying. Yes, Tony was probably pissed he had to pay a fair price afterwards, but we left him a pile of money so he could afford to. There wasn't a single piece Mike and I bought from the villagers that we felt we paid too much for. I'd be happy to pay less, but I'd still pay the same prices again for those pieces. After expenses we felt $6-$8 per gram was a fair price and we have pretty much maintained those prices since. The only way we proceeded to destroy the market was to quench some of the demand. If your supplier shafted you by raising his prices then I suggest it was his greed not the fact Mike and I paid $0.50 more per gram in the field. Hopefully this will be the last we have to hear about our outrageous overpayment in the field and how we destroyed the market. -- Eric Olson ELKK Meteorites http://www.star-bits.com Dear Mike and List Members, This post is not intended to be argumentative but could be perceived by some as being so. We just want to make our position known in regards to the new fall and other issues that were brought up by Mike Farmer on his latest posts. Do not worry, our intentions are not to get involved in perpetual arguements on the List as this has proven to be most unproductive in the past. First of all Mike, you were not the first to report this new fall. Check with the University of Washington and NAU. A few List members have been aware that we were working on this fall for some time and can vouch for us, not that this is needed. I will not respond to your ridiculous accusations that we have a few samples and made all this up to scoop you. Time will show who is telling the truth and in very short order. We forgive you for accidentally stumbling onto this fall months after the fact. We are not too worried about you damaging the market this time with your share that only amounts to a few hundred grams after you divide it up with your investors. Secondly Mike, you were never the first to report any new fall that we are aware of. If your memory serves you correctly, and let the record show, that we were the first to submit samples of Bensour to the scientific community within 5 days of the fall. A month had elapsed before you recovered any Bensour, long after Dean Bessey, Rob Elliot and ourselves made it available to market. As a matter of fact, we even announced the name and classification before you made your supposed trip to Bensour. We never claimed we went to the Bensour region but you did. We told the NomCom to get the coordinates from you since you claimed to have been to this dangerous area but, of course, no coordinates were provided. This is the last piece of data needed to make Bensour an official fall. Step up to the plate and provide this most crucial data and impress us all. Another note, You destroyed the price of Bensour by selling it for less than your cost at $2.80 a gram just to get even with Bessey. When a well known collector asked for several kilograms at this price you reneged. When you pull stunts like this it affects the
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares (OT)
This list has nothing to do with the IMCA. Mike Farmer Michael F. wrote Lurkers have no right to try and regulate what goes on in a list, if they do not add to that list. Dear Michael, With all due respect,the regulations were established by the I.M.C.A., not Stan or Dave, and we all TRY to keep them. Not all people who don't post are lurkers. Some just don't appreciate or dread the possible repercussions ( this is a good example), that can occur. There are other members that use only their first names or less, but do post, and that is OK . Just possibly? You're reading more into this than was intended ? I don't take criticism well either. : ) Regards, Marcie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moroccan Earthquake kills at least 300
Ali Hmani lives in Ouijda,very close to that area. I hope he is ok, the mountain villages are likely devistated, Ill bet the death toll rises dramatically. Mike Farmer FYI http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/africa/02/24/morocco.quake/index.html Matt Morgan __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares
No, I think that for you to speak up, and participate in this list, you should state your full name. That is only polite you know. Without a full name, who knows who you are? I have been on this list for almost 7 years, never heard of you. If you don't participate, perhaps you should not try to regulate. I have never seen a post by you before, so who are you? Lurkers have no right to try and regulate what goes on in a list if they do not add to that list. Mike Farmer I think YOU have a problem. You see only Matteo's around. Do you think you know everybody or what? I agree also with stan. this is the internet. I'm also not defending Matteo at all, but it is enough with this !x$ As you said once, This list is for proper discussions, the type that this list was made for Dave Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who are you? Another Matteo synonym? Never heard of you. It is not my problem, it is all our problem. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:31 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor - nobody cares Farmer, nobody cares about your problems with Matteo. THIS IS NOT RELATED TO METEORITES ! Keep it off this list ! Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Montag, 16. Februar 2004 05:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Matteo and his lack of humor http://it.geocities.com/idiotproudtom2003/ Did everyone see this? Matteo showing his best side, trashing everyone who has crossed him. I don't really care what an imbecile like him thinks about me, but trashing some of the other people he did shows what a coward he is. Art Jones, Geoff Notkin, how could you ever think something bad about either one of them? Can someone teach him how to be funny, think up something new perhaps? I would do a page about him, but photographing a horses %$$%hole is not my idea of fun. Mike Farmer __ New! Unlimited Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Act now to get a personalized email address! Netscape. Just the Net You Need. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson news
Hi again, it has been an extremely busy Tucson show. Friday night was the birthday bash, lots of new people, lots of fun. Last night was the Blood auction, lots of fun, a heck of a lot of laughs, and some good deals. Today was Al Langs auction, not so many deals, but the pieces were excuisite, and I myself got a couple of superb pieces. It is sunny and warm here now, so the weather is perfect. I will be open till thursday, anyone feel free to come around. Mike Farmer Inn Suites, room 184. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEWS NWA 2046
I want to congratulate all of you who bought NWA 2046, the Olivine-orthopyroxene-phyric Shergottite from me. I have just recieved news that is going to break very soon that will make this meteorite far more interesting than before. You will all hear it soon enough, but it is likely to go on CNN. It does have something to do with the Spirit Mars rover... The price is no longer valid on my website. It is being pulled from sale. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson help/Trenton or Belmont
Mark, I have a gorgeous piece of Trenton for sale in my room, with old labels. Mike Farmer Inn Suites, room 184. It looks as though I will be missing out on Tucson for the first time in ten years. The resulting pain would be considerably eased, however, if I could locate and acquire a decent-sized (larger than micro) piece of Trenton (III A), Washington Co., WI. Almost as good would be a Belmont (H6), Grant Co., WI. If any of you in Tucson or Tucson bound either has such a specimen or encounters one while there and would let me know, I would be most grateful. Many thanks from the snowy northland, Mark -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] gne gne gne (fwd)
More of out Italian friend's logic. As I said, Europeans should be proud. I still get emails from people who say that they like Matteo. They must be sado-massichists. Mike Farmer -- Forwarded Message: - From:M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gne gne gne Date:Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:20:44 -0800 (PST) what you want little idiot, uh? You are only a little child good only for cry for every minimum problemArt is not possible take off from the list why I not have answer to you type your idiot method. Close the mouths farmer, is good for you. Not in the USA, and this list is based in the USA. If you want to play and change your name, do it in Europe where you can hide behind fake names idiot. Art, please remove Matteo again. Thanks from all the list in advance. It was so nice to not have stupid comments for just those few days. Mike Farmer = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson show report
Hi everyone, another show report live from Tucson. There is some very nice new meteorites here at the show, no new falls though, so that dissapoints me. Some large sales have already occured, so money is there and it seems that the economy is coming back to life. I have not seen anything nice that the Moroccans brought in, although Ali Hamani has some great stuff as usual. It is nice and warm here, although they are calling for snow in Tucson on tuesday! I'll belive it when I see it. Everyone is just getting started so there is plenty to see here. I am waiting for some of you, so let me know when you are getting here. Mike Farmer from room 184 Inn Suites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
Habibi, their name is Pellison, they are French, I am sure you know them. Mike Farmer hello list hell all all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell stone, what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this what do you want, thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the nomade do not read what is on the list , they go to archives and know everthing, my god , why all this lies im so sick that im going to qiet i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list. im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of who write it you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are only looking for eat, why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if you want but let the poor nomade in peace what we cant hear this time its a shame, no and no its a shame who is this new loby againt nwa you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type letter can make stoping all the stone geting out from nwa , and then nothing why all this , why why why its a shame damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense if they have consciense i m so sick that i cam write bye --- Message d'origine --- De: Bernhard \ Rendelius\ Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100 Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River. Bernhard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt River Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? Farmer what you make the double game? You put the privat emails in public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it also you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore. However, if I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for null democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have put any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an other account, and then an other anchor, and an other... Farmercosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private pubbliche? Ma come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che ti và male se fai così. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora vuol dire che non è per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca mettendo nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarà fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho un altro account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro... From: Michael Farmer To: Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700 - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? We all know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he doesn't even know how to lie well. Mike Farmer shh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and new martian hahahahanow I hope the NWA market close, I want see after what you sold = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list E-mail, Dialogue en direct et SMS gratuits sur minitel : 3615 CARAMAIL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting trip
I myself an sitting at an airport awaiting another two overnight flights to take me 11,000 miles from home. Myself and some friends are going on two week meteorite hunt. I will be home on the 14th of Jan, no email till then likely. I want to wish everyone happy and safe new years night, and drink one for us. I also will be selling in Tucson, in room 184 of the INN Suites. Michael Farmer May the new year bring us some great new falls. Is a pallasite fall too much to ask for? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Arkansas fall report
Hi everyone, I just got back from the scene of the first reported piece of the Monday night Arkansas fall. The piece that recieved so much news attention is a 200 gram fragment of slag. Not a meteorite as the finder so adamantly kept telling me because the scientists and TV reporters said so. When I saw that a piece was reported found, I decided to jump on the next and last plane out of Tucson, I had merely 45 minutes from booking to get on the plane! I got to Arkansas on standby late last night and drove to my friend Gary Loyd's house. He has a new baby, my godson, so I found this a sufficient excuse to come whether or not the meteorite was real. He lives an hour and 45 minutes from Palastine. Anyway, the reports from the people there are that monday night a huge lightshow and explosion were heard, then many following booms, and people in Joneboro 45 minutes to the north saw the meteorite break up into many pieces as it headed south- southeast. That does put it exactly in line with Palastine where I went today. Does anyone know how close you should be to the fall site if sonic booms are heard? The area is prime for hunting, mostly large farms and almost all are barren right now, having been harvested for the winter. There are without a doubt alot of meteorites on the ground somewhere in that area, and hopefully some farmer will find some true meteorites. Ill spend the weekend here waiting to see if anything else turns up, but so far, no cigar. Mike Farmer Meteoritehunter. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich show
Hi everyone, just a quick note before I head down to work here at the Munich mineral show. It is a huge show, 3 buildings, all with several hundres dealers. Nice museum exhibits including the Neuschwanstien meteorite. There are of course, alot of meteorites here, but virtually NOTHING from the Moroccan dealers! Each one has a small flat or two of chondrites almost all are the several thousand kilo NWA under so many names. Some nice historical meteorites, ALL with very high prices. Nothing in any sort of bulk except the maligned Shirokovsky, which the Russian owner is still selling with the help of a very nice display and printed information that looks like it was made in hollywood. That scam is with us to stay! More later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich show
Hi everyone, I am in Prague Czech Republic. I have just visited the nice museum here and saw the meteorite collection. Some very rare historic meteorites, nice old displays, 200 year old fall reports. I will be in Munich this weekend selling with Hans Koser in the International hall. I hope to see many of my European clients there. Thanks Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
