Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-23 Thread ensoramanda
Excellent video Ruben...really enjoyed that. Looking forward to finding out 
what the classification is...really unusual find...congratulations.

Also can't wait to see the Meteorite Men shows when I can find a way of getting 
them here in the USA. Heading to Tucson again this year so see you all there in 
a few weeksmeanwhile hope you and all have a great festive season.

Graham...from a snowy UK

PS...anyone got a strewnfield map of Holbrook that they are willing to 
share/advice about visiting there as it is on our list this year...weather 
permitting! Someone at the last Tucson show gave me a sketch map but 
unfortunately I seem to have mislaid that!!

 Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite
 find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique
 meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just
 returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin
 and Steve Arnold.
 
 The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the
 stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short
 and to the point.
 
 Here it is on my site:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 
 or here on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU
 
 -- 
 Rock On!
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-23 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thanks to everyone for the youtube views over the last two years -
nearly 400,000 total!

Greg S. and Greg L,
It is important to have good friends in the business. It was great fun
filming with Geoff and Steve. They were very gracious to have invited
me to be on their show. Obviously, they don't need me and just did so
because we are good friends.

Marvin Killgore (U of A) and Laurence Garvie (ASU) have never said no
when I've asked for a favor. Both are just great guys!


Graham, keep in touch and I can help with Holbrook. Maybe we can set
up a group hunt during the Tucson show?

Rock On!

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[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-22 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite
find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique
meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just
returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin
and Steve Arnold.

The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the
stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short
and to the point.

Here it is on my site:
http://www.mr-meteorite.net

or here on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-22 Thread Mark Bowling
Pretty awesome Ruben!  Are those green crystals olivine?  I hope you've found 
something completely new!

Mark B.
Vail, AZ

--- On Tue, 12/22/09, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:03 PM
 Hi all,
 
 I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona
 Meteorite
 find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most
 unique
 meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were
 just
 returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with
 Geoff Notkin
 and Steve Arnold.
 
 The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to
 cutting the
 stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It
 is short
 and to the point.
 
 Here it is on my site:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 
 or here on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU
 
 -- 
 Rock On!
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-22 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thanks Mark!

We're still not sure what it is... the crystals are mostly pyroxene.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Pretty awesome Ruben!  Are those green crystals olivine?  I hope you've found 
 something completely new!

 Mark B.
 Vail, AZ

 --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:03 PM
 Hi all,

 I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona
 Meteorite
 find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most
 unique
 meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were
 just
 returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with
 Geoff Notkin
 and Steve Arnold.

 The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to
 cutting the
 stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It
 is short
 and to the point.

 Here it is on my site:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net

 or here on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU

 --
 Rock On!

 Ruben Garcia

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-22 Thread GREG LINDH

 
Hey Ruben,
 
  Thanks for that video.  For a novice like me it was very instructive.  By 
watching the video, I got to see the process behind identifying a meteorite, 
plus I got to see how important it is to know some of right people, like Geoff, 
Steve, Marvin Kilgore and others at ASU.  Very instructivethanks again.
 
  Greg Lindh  
 
 
 

 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:03:13 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite
 find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique
 meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just
 returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin
 and Steve Arnold.
 
 The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the
 stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short
 and to the point.
 
 Here it is on my site:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net
 
 or here on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU
 
 -- 
 Rock On!
 
 Ruben Garcia
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

2009-12-22 Thread Greg Stanley

Rubin:
 
Very nicely done. Again. congrats on your find.
 
Greg S.


 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:03:13 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO

 Hi all,

 I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite
 find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique
 meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just
 returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin
 and Steve Arnold.

 The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the
 stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short
 and to the point.

 Here it is on my site:
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net

 or here on youtube:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU

 --
 Rock On!

 Ruben Garcia

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Congrats on those wonderful finds Ruben. That 'achondrite' looking stone has 
stumped me a little.


The first thing I thought of before a close look at the pics was a 
Mesosiderite which explains a number of the features present. But the thing 
that really threw me was the chondrules. Maybe it's just me, but it looks 
like there are quite a few of them there. Those last couple of pics looks at 
least a little like a breccia of chondrite material mixed in. The last pic 
has what looks like a number of bleached chondrules and fragments of them 
too. Is that what I'm seeing Ruben or does it look different in 'person'? It 
will be VERY interesting to see where the oxygen isotopes plot for this one.


Cheers,

Jeff



- Original Message - 
From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:15 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW 
New Mexico Strewnfield



Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-06 Thread Melanie Matthews

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LOL=20

So has Hopper ever shown any inclination to hunt for or shown interest in a=
ny other meteorites besides that one stone she found?=20

So anyway=2C congrats on your new fine!=20

Cheers/saludos=A0=20
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Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what=
 you're gonna get!=20


 Date: Mon=2C 5 Oct 2009 16:32:22 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

 Yes=2C Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to
 consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding
 and so half the stone is hers



 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:27 PM=2C  wrote:
 My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when=
 ASU confirm?  =3B-)

 Good luck

 Graham

  Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Thanks Jason=2C
 I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice.

 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:03 PM=2C Jason Utas  wrote:
 Yo=2C
 An acapulcoite might have a chondrule=2C but a lodranite=2C given the
 increased metamorphism=2C highly doubtful.
 That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
 size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
 I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
  I suppose it could be a CB/CH=2C though - but the olivine would sugge=
st
 otherwise.
 Nice find=2C regardless.
 Regards=2C
 Jason

 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:52 PM=2C Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Hi Bernd and Greg=2C

 It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
 about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
 but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure

 Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.




 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:32 PM=2C   wrote:
 Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

 Hi Ruben and List=2C

 Yes=2C maybe a ureilite like the Hup=E9s' NWA 2624 but where are the=
 triple junctions?
 You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivin=
e grains that meet
 in triple junctions of 120=B0 (3 x 120=B0 =3D 360=B0).

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread meteoritefin...@yahoo.com
Hello Rubin,

 Congrats on the find! That's got to have been quite a rush. Can't wait to see 
what the final classification turns out to be.  Good luck.

Best wishes,
Robert Woolard

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Kuyken

Hi Bernd  Ruben,

The problem with a Ureilite is that I believe metallic iron/nickel is in 
relatively small amounts in them. It usually forms small veinlets around the 
grains and are the first thing to weather away (low nickel content) and 
often lost in slicing too. Because of this only VERY fresh Ureilites 
generally have these.


http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2705.html

NWA 2624 for comparison:

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2624.html

Cheers,

Jeff



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Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:32 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find


Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

Hi Ruben and List,

Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
junctions?
You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains 
that meet

in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus apossibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread Jeff Kuyken

I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?


You may jest Rob but I've seen it. ;-)

Not a Pallasite with chondrules as such but pieces of extremely weathered 
Huckitta. It almost looks like a weathered (W5) type 3 or 4 impact melt. 
They look a bit like chondrules... but they're not. Very, very weird stuff!


Cheers,

Jeff


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus 
apossibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield



Hi Ruben,

Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal,
large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite
classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028).
But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this
classification.

I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

:D  --Rob

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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-06 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Melanie,

I don't know for sure, however she was leading me around as I held her
leash when I made this find.




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 LOL=20

 So has Hopper ever shown any inclination to hunt for or shown interest in a=
 ny other meteorites besides that one stone she found?=20

 So anyway=2C congrats on your new fine!=20

 Cheers/saludos=A0=20
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 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what=
  you're gonna get!=20

 
 Date: Mon=2C 5 Oct 2009 16:32:22 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

 Yes=2C Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to
 consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding
 and so half the stone is hers



 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:27 PM=2C  wrote:
 My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when=
  ASU confirm?  =3B-)

 Good luck

 Graham

  Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Thanks Jason=2C
 I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice.

 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:03 PM=2C Jason Utas  wrote:
 Yo=2C
 An acapulcoite might have a chondrule=2C but a lodranite=2C given the
 increased metamorphism=2C highly doubtful.
 That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
 size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
 I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
  I suppose it could be a CB/CH=2C though - but the olivine would sugge=
 st
 otherwise.
 Nice find=2C regardless.
 Regards=2C
 Jason

 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:52 PM=2C Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Hi Bernd and Greg=2C

 It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
 about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
 but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure

 Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.




 On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:32 PM=2C   wrote:
 Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

 Hi Ruben and List=2C

 Yes=2C maybe a ureilite like the Hup=E9s' NWA 2624 but where are the=
  triple junctions?
 You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivin=
 e grains that meet
 in triple junctions of 120=B0 (3 x 120=B0 =3D 360=B0).

 Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread wahlperry

Hi Ruben, Rob and List,

I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt 
that this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents 
worth on what type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the 
exterior and polished face. My first impression of the cut face  
reminded me of a ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a 
chondrule that would rule out a ureilite, unless it was a relic 
chondrule. The exterior has the weathered appearance of a lodranite. 
What ever this meteorite turns out to be, it will be unique. I guess we 
will have to leave it up to the experts.


2 cents worth poll : )

#1 Ureilite
#2 Lodranite


Sonny








Hi Ruben,

Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal,
large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite
classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028).
But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this
classification.

I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

:D  --Rob

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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf 
Of Ruben

Garcia
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico=2
0Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread Ruben Garcia
Wow, thanks Paul, Sonny, Rob and everyone else for all the interest on
my meteorite.
I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
find watever it is.







On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow, thanks Sonny, Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my meteorite.
 I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
 find watever it is.






 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:58 AM,  wahlpe...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi Ruben, Rob and List,

 I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt that
 this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on what
 type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and
 polished face. My first impression of the cut face  reminded me of a
 ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rule out
 a ureilite, unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the weathered
 appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be, it will
 be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts.

 2 cents worth poll : )

 #1 Ureilite
 #2 Lodranite


 Sonny








 Hi Ruben,

 Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal,
 large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
 of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite
 classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
 paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028).
 But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
 olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this
 classification.

 I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

 :D  --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
 possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


 Hi all,

 On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


 This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
 of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
 Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
 rains and mud we came up empty.

 After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
 we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
 east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
 where no finds have been recorded.

 We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
 examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
 it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
 one and then shortly after I did too.

 We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico=2
 0Strewn
 field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
 beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

 Take a look
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread tracy latimer

I'm going to throw my hat in the ring with Graham and say mesosiderite.  The 
spray of fine metal flakes surrounding a central feature (olivine crystal?) 
reminds me of a similar feature in the part slice of Estherville I got some 
time ago from Anne B.

Best!
Tracy Latimer


 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW 
 New Mexico Strewnfield

 Hi all,

 On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread Greg Stanley

80659e1a0910060927u103a8c12w942fc74ca3f1b...@mail.gmail.com
 

 80659e1a0910060930p3ae88d9fhb7edade849819...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0


Ruben and List:

For my final answer=2C I say a metal rich diogenite like NWA 3106 (~12% met=
al).=A0 I'm going out on a limb here.=A0 Perhaps it contains sub-rounded cl=
asts.

This is fun - we need more of these where list member can guess.

Greg S.


 Date: Tue=2C 6 Oct 2009 09:30:05 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possib=
leNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

 Wow=2C thanks Paul=2C Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest=
 on
 my meteorite.
 I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
 find watever it is.







 On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 9:27 AM=2C Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Wow=2C thanks Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my =
meteorite.
 I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
 find watever it is.






 On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 8:58 AM=2C   wrote:
 Hi Ruben=2C Rob and List=2C

 I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt t=
hat
 this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on=
 what
 type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and
 polished face. My first impression of the cut face  reminded me of a
 ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rul=
e out
 a ureilite=2C unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the wea=
thered
 appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be=2C =
it will
 be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts.

 2 cents worth poll : )

 #1 Ureilite
 #2 Lodranite


 Sonny








 Hi Ruben=2C

 Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal=2C
 large olivine phenocrysts=2C and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
 of that chondrule would seem=2C by definition=2C to rule out an achondr=
ite
 classification=2C although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
 paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725=2C GRA 98028).
 But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
 olivine phenocrysts=2C so I would be inclined to rule out this
 classification.

 I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

 :D  --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Monday=2C October 05=2C 2009 1:15 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
 possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


 Hi all=2C

 On September 24=2C 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie =96 so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


 This past weekend =96 in an attempt to find more - I put together a tea=
m
 of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller=2C Sonny Clary=2C Stan Wall=
=2C
 Del Waterbury=2C Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately=2C between the
 rains and mud we came up empty.

 After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
 we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
 east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
 where no finds have been recorded.

 We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
 examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
 it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
 one and then shortly after I did too.

 We think this may prove to be a =93NEW=94 and very fresh New Mexico=3D2
 0Strewn
 field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
 beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

 Take a look
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix=2C Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-06 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hey Greg and List,

I love all these guesses - Lots of knowledge on here keep them coming!




On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Grag and List,

 I love all these guesses - Lots of knowledge on here keep them coming!

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:

        80659e1a0910060927u103a8c12w942fc74ca3f1b...@mail.gmail.com


  80659e1a0910060930p3ae88d9fhb7edade849819...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 MIME-Version: 1.0


 Ruben and List:

 For my final answer=2C I say a metal rich diogenite like NWA 3106 (~12% met=
 al).=A0 I'm going out on a limb here.=A0 Perhaps it contains sub-rounded cl=
 asts.

 This is fun - we need more of these where list member can guess.

 Greg S.

 
 Date: Tue=2C 6 Oct 2009 09:30:05 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possib=
 leNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

 Wow=2C thanks Paul=2C Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest=
  on
 my meteorite.
 I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
 find watever it is.







 On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 9:27 AM=2C Ruben Garcia  wrote:
 Wow=2C thanks Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my =
 meteorite.
 I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool
 find watever it is.






 On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 8:58 AM=2C   wrote:
 Hi Ruben=2C Rob and List=2C

 I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt t=
 hat
 this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on=
  what
 type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and
 polished face. My first impression of the cut face  reminded me of a
 ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rul=
 e out
 a ureilite=2C unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the wea=
 thered
 appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be=2C =
 it will
 be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts.

 2 cents worth poll : )

 #1 Ureilite
 #2 Lodranite


 Sonny








 Hi Ruben=2C

 Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal=2C
 large olivine phenocrysts=2C and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
 of that chondrule would seem=2C by definition=2C to rule out an achondr=
 ite
 classification=2C although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
 paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725=2C GRA 98028).
 But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
 olivine phenocrysts=2C so I would be inclined to rule out this
 classification.

 I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

 :D  --Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben
 Garcia
 Sent: Monday=2C October 05=2C 2009 1:15 PM
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
 possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


 Hi all=2C

 On September 24=2C 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie =96 so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


 This past weekend =96 in an attempt to find more - I put together a tea=
 m
 of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller=2C Sonny Clary=2C Stan Wall=
 =2C
 Del Waterbury=2C Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately=2C between the
 rains and mud we came up empty.

 After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
 we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
 east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
 where no finds have been recorded.

 We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
 examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
 it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
 one and then shortly after I did too.

 We think this may prove to be a =93NEW=94 and very fresh New Mexico=3D2
 0Strewn
 field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
 beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

 Take a look
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix=2C Arizona
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[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread bernd . pauli
Wow! Congratulations on the new NM strewnfield and on what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. *If* it is an achondrite, then there's 
something
wrong about the lone chondrule ;-) If there are chondrules and if this loner
is a chondrule, what about an E-chondrite - maybe anomalous?

I first thought I was looking at something angritic or diogenitic ... maybe an 
olivine
diogenite but I can't see any triple junctions in the pics. Hmm, please keep us 
posted!

Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Bernd,

Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really
has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of
the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal
diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive
achondrite- Ureilite maybe?

My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class?
However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe
a new class here too?


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Ruben, Bernd,

Congratulations..hope it turns out exciting.

Reminds me of a mesosiderite, some resemblance to Vaca Muerta or Esterville in 
places with its strange mixture/matrix.

Regards,

Graham Ensor UK
 
 Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi Bernd,
 
 Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really
 has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of
 the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal
 diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive
 achondrite- Ureilite maybe?
 
 My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class?
 However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe
 a new class here too?
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Greg Stanley


Wow - Congratulations Rubin, that is a beautiful specimen.  At first I 
thought... a Diogenite, but with so much metal?  The Olivine crystal is really 
nice, so I would rule out a chondrite, but you never know. It looks like a 
complete stone, is that right? I hope you can find more.  Also, congratulations 
to  Del and your team on the new cold find in New Mexico.

Thanks for sharing,

Greg S.


 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW 
 New Mexico Strewnfield

 Hi all,

 On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


 This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
 of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
 Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
 rains and mud we came up empty.

 After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
 we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
 east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
 where no finds have been recorded.

 We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
 examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
 it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
 one and then shortly after I did too.

 We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
 field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
 beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

 Take a look
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Graham,
I agree and infact at first thought it was a pallasite/meso when I
first saw it because of all the olivine on the exterior (a visible 8mm
chunk).

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM,  ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Hi Ruben, Bernd,

 Congratulations..hope it turns out exciting.

 Reminds me of a mesosiderite, some resemblance to Vaca Muerta or Esterville 
 in places with its strange mixture/matrix.

 Regards,

 Graham Ensor UK

  Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bernd,

 Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really
 has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of
 the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal
 diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive
 achondrite- Ureilite maybe?

 My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class?
 However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe
 a new class here too?


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete
stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to
8mm) and lots of metal.  what is it? I have never seen anything
like it.




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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Greg Stanley

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Maybe a Primitive Ungrouped Achondrite.

Greg S.


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 I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete
 stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to
 8mm) and lots of metal. what is it? I have never seen anything
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[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread bernd . pauli
Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

Hi Ruben and List,

Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
junctions?
You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains 
that meet
in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Bernd and Greg,

It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure

Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.




On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

 Hi Ruben and List,

 Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
 junctions?
 You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains 
 that meet
 in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread Jason Utas
Yo,
An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the
increased metamorphism, highly doubtful.
That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
 I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest
otherwise.
Nice find, regardless.
Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bernd and Greg,

 It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
 about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
 but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure

 Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.




 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

 Hi Ruben and List,

 Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
 junctions?
 You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains 
 that meet
 in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thanks Jason,
I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yo,
 An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the
 increased metamorphism, highly doubtful.
 That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
 size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
 I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
  I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest
 otherwise.
 Nice find, regardless.
 Regards,
 Jason

 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bernd and Greg,

 It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
 about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
 but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure

 Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.




 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
 Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?

 Hi Ruben and List,

 Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
 junctions?
 You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine 
 grains that meet
 in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread ensoramanda
My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when ASU 
confirm?  ;-)

Good luck

Graham

 Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Thanks Jason,
 I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice.
 
 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yo,
  An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the
  increased metamorphism, highly doubtful.
  That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
  size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
  I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
   I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest
  otherwise.
  Nice find, regardless.
  Regards,
  Jason
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Bernd and Greg,
 
  It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
  about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
  but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure
 
  Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
  Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?
 
  Hi Ruben and List,
 
  Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
  junctions?
  You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine 
  grains that meet
  in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Yes, Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to
consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding
and so half the stone is hers



On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM,  ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when ASU 
 confirm?  ;-)

 Good luck

 Graham

  Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Jason,
 I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice.

 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yo,
  An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the
  increased metamorphism, highly doubtful.
  That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain
  size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism.
  I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta.
   I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest
  otherwise.
  Nice find, regardless.
  Regards,
  Jason
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Bernd and Greg,
 
  It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has
  about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite
  but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure
 
  Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM,  bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote:
  Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe?
 
  Hi Ruben and List,
 
  Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple 
  junctions?
  You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine 
  grains that meet
  in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°).
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Matthias Bärmann
What is it? Bah, not an easy question, Ruben. As a first spontaneous idea 
Tafassasset

with its olivines (but coarser grain sized) and a bit similar metal
distribution came into my mind. And as you mentioned primitive achondrites: 
as

we know Tafassasset seems to show some aspects of brachinite ... At last we
have a new Tafa-problem in regard to classification, who knows?

Analysis will let us know more. Good luck!

Best,

Matthias

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Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Melanie,

I have been asked that question and to honest I don't know.

Ruben




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 get the results? I'd like a piece of it..

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 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700
 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible
 NEW New Mexico Strewnfield

 Hi all,

 On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
 important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
 a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
 definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
 being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

 Here is a link
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


 This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
 of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
 Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
 rains and mud we came up empty.

 After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
 we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
 east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
 where no finds have been recorded.

 We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
 examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
 it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
 one and then shortly after I did too.

 We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
 field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
 beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

 Take a look
 http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a

2009-10-05 Thread Brian Cox
Congratulations Ruben!  That is definitely a Very, Very nice specimen! It's 
very beautiful! Let us know as soon as you can what the name will be and of 
course the location, of course, once you have recovered all the material. 
;-) It's very beautiful!!


Keep up the great work!!

All the best!

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Fries, Marc D (3225)
Fantastic stuff!  Looks like Hopper has bestowed you with some serious luck.
Buy that dog some steak!

Cheers,
MDF


On 10/5/09 3:34 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete
 stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to
 8mm) and lots of metal.  what is it? I have never seen anything
 like it.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield

2009-10-05 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Ruben,

Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal,
large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence
of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite
classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and
paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028).
But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large
olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this
classification.

I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules?

:D  --Rob

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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a
possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield


Hi all,

On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most
important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably
a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can
definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently
being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know.

Here is a link
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm


This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team
of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall,
Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the
rains and mud we came up empty.

After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison
we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head
east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico
where no finds have been recorded.

We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del
examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and
it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find
one and then shortly after I did too.

We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn
field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these
beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come.

Take a look
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net

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