Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Excellent video Ruben...really enjoyed that. Looking forward to finding out what the classification is...really unusual find...congratulations. Also can't wait to see the Meteorite Men shows when I can find a way of getting them here in the USA. Heading to Tucson again this year so see you all there in a few weeksmeanwhile hope you and all have a great festive season. Graham...from a snowy UK PS...anyone got a strewnfield map of Holbrook that they are willing to share/advice about visiting there as it is on our list this year...weather permitting! Someone at the last Tucson show gave me a sketch map but unfortunately I seem to have mislaid that!! Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Thanks to everyone for the youtube views over the last two years - nearly 400,000 total! Greg S. and Greg L, It is important to have good friends in the business. It was great fun filming with Geoff and Steve. They were very gracious to have invited me to be on their show. Obviously, they don't need me and just did so because we are good friends. Marvin Killgore (U of A) and Laurence Garvie (ASU) have never said no when I've asked for a favor. Both are just great guys! Graham, keep in touch and I can help with Holbrook. Maybe we can set up a group hunt during the Tucson show? Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Pretty awesome Ruben! Are those green crystals olivine? I hope you've found something completely new! Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:03 PM Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Thanks Mark! We're still not sure what it is... the crystals are mostly pyroxene. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Mark Bowling mina...@yahoo.com wrote: Pretty awesome Ruben! Are those green crystals olivine? I hope you've found something completely new! Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:03 PM Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Hey Ruben, Thanks for that video. For a novice like me it was very instructive. By watching the video, I got to see the process behind identifying a meteorite, plus I got to see how important it is to know some of right people, like Geoff, Steve, Marvin Kilgore and others at ASU. Very instructivethanks again. Greg Lindh Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:03:13 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO
Rubin: Very nicely done. Again. congrats on your find. Greg S. Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:03:13 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find - VIDEO Hi all, I just got around to posting the video of my Rare Arizona Meteorite find! My Son (Ruben Jr) filmed me as I discovered my most unique meteorite ever. Both he and Hopper were along since we were just returning from filming an episode of Meteorite Men with Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold. The video goes from the dry lake bed where it was found to cutting the stone to the classification process in about 4 minutes. It is short and to the point. Here it is on my site: http://www.mr-meteorite.net or here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfjdhqbnoxU -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Congrats on those wonderful finds Ruben. That 'achondrite' looking stone has stumped me a little. The first thing I thought of before a close look at the pics was a Mesosiderite which explains a number of the features present. But the thing that really threw me was the chondrules. Maybe it's just me, but it looks like there are quite a few of them there. Those last couple of pics looks at least a little like a breccia of chondrite material mixed in. The last pic has what looks like a number of bleached chondrules and fragments of them too. Is that what I'm seeing Ruben or does it look different in 'person'? It will be VERY interesting to see where the oxygen isotopes plot for this one. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
80659e1a0910051632n3e00949agb082f1bb9571b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 LOL=20 So has Hopper ever shown any inclination to hunt for or shown interest in a= ny other meteorites besides that one stone she found?=20 So anyway=2C congrats on your new fine!=20 Cheers/saludos=A0=20 --- Melanie=20 IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 =A0 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what= you're gonna get!=20 Date: Mon=2C 5 Oct 2009 16:32:22 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find Yes=2C Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding and so half the stone is hers On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:27 PM=2C wrote: My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when= ASU confirm? =3B-) Good luck Graham Ruben Garcia wrote: Thanks Jason=2C I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice. On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:03 PM=2C Jason Utas wrote: Yo=2C An acapulcoite might have a chondrule=2C but a lodranite=2C given the increased metamorphism=2C highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH=2C though - but the olivine would sugge= st otherwise. Nice find=2C regardless. Regards=2C Jason On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:52 PM=2C Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg=2C It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:32 PM=2C wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List=2C Yes=2C maybe a ureilite like the Hup=E9s' NWA 2624 but where are the= triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivin= e grains that meet in triple junctions of 120=B0 (3 x 120=B0 =3D 360=B0). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list =0A= _=0A= Click less=2C chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca=0A= http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9677404= __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Hello Rubin, Congrats on the find! That's got to have been quite a rush. Can't wait to see what the final classification turns out to be. Good luck. Best wishes, Robert Woolard Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
Hi Bernd Ruben, The problem with a Ureilite is that I believe metallic iron/nickel is in relatively small amounts in them. It usually forms small veinlets around the grains and are the first thing to weather away (low nickel content) and often lost in slicing too. Because of this only VERY fresh Ureilites generally have these. http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2705.html NWA 2624 for comparison: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/nwa2624.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus apossibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? You may jest Rob but I've seen it. ;-) Not a Pallasite with chondrules as such but pieces of extremely weathered Huckitta. It almost looks like a weathered (W5) type 3 or 4 impact melt. They look a bit like chondrules... but they're not. Very, very weird stuff! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus apossibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi Ruben, Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal, large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
Hi Melanie, I don't know for sure, however she was leading me around as I held her leash when I made this find. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com wrote: 80659e1a0910051632n3e00949agb082f1bb9571b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 LOL=20 So has Hopper ever shown any inclination to hunt for or shown interest in a= ny other meteorites besides that one stone she found?=20 So anyway=2C congrats on your new fine!=20 Cheers/saludos=A0=20 --- Melanie=20 IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 =A0 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what= you're gonna get!=20 Date: Mon=2C 5 Oct 2009 16:32:22 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find Yes=2C Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding and so half the stone is hers On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:27 PM=2C wrote: My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when= ASU confirm? =3B-) Good luck Graham Ruben Garcia wrote: Thanks Jason=2C I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice. On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 4:03 PM=2C Jason Utas wrote: Yo=2C An acapulcoite might have a chondrule=2C but a lodranite=2C given the increased metamorphism=2C highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH=2C though - but the olivine would sugge= st otherwise. Nice find=2C regardless. Regards=2C Jason On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:52 PM=2C Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg=2C It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon=2C Oct 5=2C 2009 at 3:32 PM=2C wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List=2C Yes=2C maybe a ureilite like the Hup=E9s' NWA 2624 but where are the= triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivin= e grains that meet in triple junctions of 120=B0 (3 x 120=B0 =3D 360=B0). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list =0A= _=0A= Click less=2C chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca=0A= http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9677404= __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Hi Ruben, Rob and List, I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt that this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on what type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and polished face. My first impression of the cut face reminded me of a ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rule out a ureilite, unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the weathered appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be, it will be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts. 2 cents worth poll : ) #1 Ureilite #2 Lodranite Sonny Hi Ruben, Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal, large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico=2 0Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Wow, thanks Paul, Sonny, Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, thanks Sonny, Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:58 AM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi Ruben, Rob and List, I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt that this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on what type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and polished face. My first impression of the cut face reminded me of a ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rule out a ureilite, unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the weathered appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be, it will be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts. 2 cents worth poll : ) #1 Ureilite #2 Lodranite Sonny Hi Ruben, Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal, large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico=2 0Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield
I'm going to throw my hat in the ring with Graham and say mesosiderite. The spray of fine metal flakes surrounding a central feature (olivine crystal?) reminds me of a similar feature in the part slice of Estherville I got some time ago from Anne B. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
80659e1a0910060927u103a8c12w942fc74ca3f1b...@mail.gmail.com 80659e1a0910060930p3ae88d9fhb7edade849819...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Ruben and List: For my final answer=2C I say a metal rich diogenite like NWA 3106 (~12% met= al).=A0 I'm going out on a limb here.=A0 Perhaps it contains sub-rounded cl= asts. This is fun - we need more of these where list member can guess. Greg S. Date: Tue=2C 6 Oct 2009 09:30:05 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possib= leNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Wow=2C thanks Paul=2C Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest= on my meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 9:27 AM=2C Ruben Garcia wrote: Wow=2C thanks Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my = meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 8:58 AM=2C wrote: Hi Ruben=2C Rob and List=2C I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt t= hat this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on= what type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and polished face. My first impression of the cut face reminded me of a ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rul= e out a ureilite=2C unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the wea= thered appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be=2C = it will be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts. 2 cents worth poll : ) #1 Ureilite #2 Lodranite Sonny Hi Ruben=2C Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal=2C large olivine phenocrysts=2C and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem=2C by definition=2C to rule out an achondr= ite classification=2C although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725=2C GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts=2C so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday=2C October 05=2C 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all=2C On September 24=2C 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie =96 so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend =96 in an attempt to find more - I put together a tea= m of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller=2C Sonny Clary=2C Stan Wall= =2C Del Waterbury=2C Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately=2C between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a =93NEW=94 and very fresh New Mexico=3D2 0Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix=2C Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Hey Greg and List, I love all these guesses - Lots of knowledge on here keep them coming! On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Grag and List, I love all these guesses - Lots of knowledge on here keep them coming! On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: 80659e1a0910060927u103a8c12w942fc74ca3f1b...@mail.gmail.com 80659e1a0910060930p3ae88d9fhb7edade849819...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Ruben and List: For my final answer=2C I say a metal rich diogenite like NWA 3106 (~12% met= al).=A0 I'm going out on a limb here.=A0 Perhaps it contains sub-rounded cl= asts. This is fun - we need more of these where list member can guess. Greg S. Date: Tue=2C 6 Oct 2009 09:30:05 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possib= leNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Wow=2C thanks Paul=2C Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest= on my meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 9:27 AM=2C Ruben Garcia wrote: Wow=2C thanks Sonny=2C Rob and everyone else for all the interest on my = meteorite. I think Sonny is right it is by no means ordinary and will be a cool find watever it is. On Tue=2C Oct 6=2C 2009 at 8:58 AM=2C wrote: Hi Ruben=2C Rob and List=2C I would like to congratulate Ruben on his new find. There is no doubt t= hat this will be one of the top finds for 2009! Here is my 2 cents worth on= what type meteorite this may be. I had a chance to look at the exterior and polished face. My first impression of the cut face reminded me of a ureilite. I also noticed what appeared to be a chondrule that would rul= e out a ureilite=2C unless it was a relic chondrule. The exterior has the wea= thered appearance of a lodranite. What ever this meteorite turns out to be=2C = it will be unique. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts. 2 cents worth poll : ) #1 Ureilite #2 Lodranite Sonny Hi Ruben=2C Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal=2C large olivine phenocrysts=2C and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem=2C by definition=2C to rule out an achondr= ite classification=2C although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725=2C GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts=2C so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday=2C October 05=2C 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all=2C On September 24=2C 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie =96 so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend =96 in an attempt to find more - I put together a tea= m of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller=2C Sonny Clary=2C Stan Wall= =2C Del Waterbury=2C Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately=2C between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a =93NEW=94 and very fresh New Mexico=3D2 0Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix=2C Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Wow! Congratulations on the new NM strewnfield and on what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. *If* it is an achondrite, then there's something wrong about the lone chondrule ;-) If there are chondrules and if this loner is a chondrule, what about an E-chondrite - maybe anomalous? I first thought I was looking at something angritic or diogenitic ... maybe an olivine diogenite but I can't see any triple junctions in the pics. Hmm, please keep us posted! Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield
Hi Bernd, Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive achondrite- Ureilite maybe? My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class? However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe a new class here too? Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield
Hi Ruben, Bernd, Congratulations..hope it turns out exciting. Reminds me of a mesosiderite, some resemblance to Vaca Muerta or Esterville in places with its strange mixture/matrix. Regards, Graham Ensor UK Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd, Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive achondrite- Ureilite maybe? My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class? However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe a new class here too? Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Wow - Congratulations Rubin, that is a beautiful specimen. At first I thought... a Diogenite, but with so much metal? The Olivine crystal is really nice, so I would rule out a chondrite, but you never know. It looks like a complete stone, is that right? I hope you can find more. Also, congratulations to Del and your team on the new cold find in New Mexico. Thanks for sharing, Greg S. Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield
Hi Graham, I agree and infact at first thought it was a pallasite/meso when I first saw it because of all the olivine on the exterior (a visible 8mm chunk). On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi Ruben, Bernd, Congratulations..hope it turns out exciting. Reminds me of a mesosiderite, some resemblance to Vaca Muerta or Esterville in places with its strange mixture/matrix. Regards, Graham Ensor UK Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd, Thanks for the comments. We do have reservations about if it really has a chondrule or if it is just a round inclusion. However, some of the most knowledgeable people in the world have guessed high metal diogenite (as it is loaded with metal) or lodrinite or other primitive achondrite- Ureilite maybe? My guess is that it will be an achondrite - maybe a new class? However, if it is a chondrite it will be anything but ordinary - maybe a new class here too? Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to 8mm) and lots of metal. what is it? I have never seen anything like it. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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80659e1a0910051534w22a11e7dl4321b6bc89748...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Maybe a Primitive Ungrouped Achondrite. Greg S. Date: Mon=2C 5 Oct 2009 15:34:17 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW = New Mexico strewnfield I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to 8mm) and lots of metal. what is it? I have never seen anything like it. Ruben Garcia Phoenix=2C Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list =0A= _=0A= Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service.=0A= http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/= __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Bernd and Greg, It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yo, An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the increased metamorphism, highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest otherwise. Nice find, regardless. Regards, Jason On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg, It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
Thanks Jason, I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Yo, An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the increased metamorphism, highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest otherwise. Nice find, regardless. Regards, Jason On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg, It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when ASU confirm? ;-) Good luck Graham Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason, I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Yo, An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the increased metamorphism, highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest otherwise. Nice find, regardless. Regards, Jason On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg, It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yes, Hopper and I will buy you lunch if you are right. I'd have to consult her to give anymore as she was there at the time of finding and so half the stone is hers On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when ASU confirm? ;-) Good luck Graham Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason, I stand corrected. An acapulcoite would be nice. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Yo, An acapulcoite might have a chondrule, but a lodranite, given the increased metamorphism, highly doubtful. That's what differentiates lodranites from acapulcoites - larger grain size due to more intense/prolonged periods of metamorphism. I would say a mesosiderite - compare to Clover Springs or Vaca Muerta. I suppose it could be a CB/CH, though - but the olivine would suggest otherwise. Nice find, regardless. Regards, Jason On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bernd and Greg, It is so strange that is for sure. I don't know what it is but it has about the same metal as an H chondrite and the olivine of a diogenite but the (possible) chondrule of a lodranite. Go figure Whatever it is I have never seen anything quite like it. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Ruben wrote: Ureilite maybe? Hi Ruben and List, Yes, maybe a ureilite like the Hupés' NWA 2624 but where are the triple junctions? You would expect a lot of olivine grains with sets of three olivine grains that meet in triple junctions of 120° (3 x 120° = 360°). Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
What is it? Bah, not an easy question, Ruben. As a first spontaneous idea Tafassasset with its olivines (but coarser grain sized) and a bit similar metal distribution came into my mind. And as you mentioned primitive achondrites: as we know Tafassasset seems to show some aspects of brachinite ... At last we have a new Tafa-problem in regard to classification, who knows? Analysis will let us know more. Good luck! Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Melanie, I have been asked that question and to honest I don't know. Ruben On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Melanie Matthews spacewoman2...@hotmail.com wrote: That's a really cool rock, Ruben! Are you going to sell any of it after you get the results? I'd like a piece of it.. Cheers --- Melanie IMCA: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09 Unclassified meteorites are like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get! Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:15:26 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possible NEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Less clicking: Hotmail access on the new MSN homepage. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Congratulations Ruben! That is definitely a Very, Very nice specimen! It's very beautiful! Let us know as soon as you can what the name will be and of course the location, of course, once you have recovered all the material. ;-) It's very beautiful!! Keep up the great work!! All the best! Brian IMCA # 6387 Searchingforfun is my ebay User ID -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:25:57 -0700 From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a NEW New Mexico strewnfield To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 80659e1a0910051525o5ca7e363t475229e9616d4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Fantastic stuff! Looks like Hopper has bestowed you with some serious luck. Buy that dog some steak! Cheers, MDF On 10/5/09 3:34 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to mention that my rare find was (it's cut now) a complete stone weighing 157 grams. It has large olivine on the exterior (up to 8mm) and lots of metal. what is it? I have never seen anything like it. Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield
Hi Ruben, Congrats on the new Arizona find! What a terrific discovery: metal, large olivine phenocrysts, and even a lonely chondrule. The presence of that chondrule would seem, by definition, to rule out an achondrite classification, although I understand acapulcoites apparently (and paradoxically) can contain chondrules (e.g. NWA 725, GRA 98028). But I can't say I've ever heard of an acapulcoite with such large olivine phenocrysts, so I would be inclined to rule out this classification. I guess the riddle to ask is When does a pallasite have chondrules? :D --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of Ruben Garcia Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:15 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find plus a possibleNEW New Mexico Strewnfield Hi all, On September 24, 2009 I made (what I think will be) one of the most important Arizona meteorite finds of my life. I found what is probably a very rare achondrite meteorite. I say probably because no one can definitively say what type it is just by looking. It is currently being classified at ASU by Lawrence Garvie – so we will soon know. Here is a link http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm This past weekend – in an attempt to find more - I put together a team of top notch meteorite hunters (Mike Miller, Sonny Clary, Stan Wall, Del Waterbury, Mike Morgan and Myself). Unfortunately, between the rains and mud we came up empty. After checking the weather (online) with a very helpful Susan Morrison we decided that in order to get out of the rain we needed to head east. Within a sort time we found ourselves in an area in New Mexico where no finds have been recorded. We hunted for an hour or two when I spotted Mike Morgan and Del examining a stone. Sure enough Del had found his first cold find and it was a very fresh looking meteorite! Mike Morgan was next to find one and then shortly after I did too. We think this may prove to be a “NEW” and very fresh New Mexico Strewn field. Time will tell as we return to hunt for more of these beautifully crusted specimens in the weeks to come. Take a look http://www.mr-meteorite.net/newmexicometeorites.htm Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona WWW.Mr-Meteorite.Net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list