Well, Bobarino,
You may be on the "Bad Boy Black List" but you extracted the
ultimate revenge: LA 001 & 002 !
Way to go, Bobbo. Michael
on 8/7/03 10:03 PM, Robert Verish at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well Al,
>
> If what you say is true, then I may want to know th
Re: collecting Ban.
These scientists/time wasters that support a collecting ban would do
well to sit down and think about their actions...
Firstly >90% of all meteorites are found by 'collectors/hunters' (or
dealers to collectors). Do these scientists really want to loose these
thousands and
You are right; it is hard to compare the statistics. Many or most of the
described multi-fragment Saharan meteorites are those that decrepitated in
place in the much harsher weathering environment of hot deserts compared
with cold ones. Meteorites that formed strewn fields get just as many
nu
All the best,
Adam
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Hello List,What is so hard to understand about
this?Let's not forget that the science of meteo
Dear List,
It is interesting to note that the Non-Antarctic to Antarctic ratio is
different when it comes to planetary material.
SNCs
Qty Non-AntarcticQty Antarctic
18 10
Lunar
Qty Non-Antarctic Qty Antarctic
15
Hello List,
What is so hard to understand about this?
Let's not forget that the science of meteoritics is big business. Well, not big by Microsoft or American Airlines standards, but compared to collecting it sure is. I was given a number a couple years ago that $12,000,000 a year is given out
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> > Dear List and Adam,
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> > I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult
> > for me to compare the latest S
Let's refine the numbers a bit. Pretty much the start of hot desert
collecting
was in 1998. Of the numbers you quote above how many are since the start
of 1998? Do the same pairing numbers Lindstrom estimated apply to the
non-ordinary-chondrites? I don't have access to a database so Jeff if
This has been a great thread about Antarctica and Hot
Desert Meteorites, but unfortunately it has been going
under the Subject title of "Meteorite Collecting Ban"!
Take a mental note of this for when, say a year from
now, you want to go back and try and find this in the
Archives. This is a good e
Jeff,
Thanks for clearing up the exact numbers! I never realized so many where
found in the Antarctic.
.. it makes me even more sure that, since the Antarctic meteorites are
already 'protected from private sale', banning collecting would not
increase the number available to science, probably t
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:13 PM
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> Dear List and Adam,
>
> I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult
> for me to compare the latest SNCs numbers but... ;-)
>
> What about somebody who have a time and
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> In a message dated 8/8/2003 12:25:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> <<
> I think Bernd could tweak his data base
> to extrapolate some of this data.
Would love to but can't because I am still in the updating process
on page 38 of the MAPS abstract, volume 38, 2003 July. In other
words Met.Bull.87 with its 1898 new entries and all those latest
ANSMET Antarctic finds a
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To: Sergey Vasiliev
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Dear Sergey and List,
I feel the performance increase in rare finds from the desert is
attributable to free enterprise and education. Moroccans and nomads
know
they will get more for an
In a message dated 8/8/2003 12:25:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
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<< You are right; it is hard to compare the statistics.>
I had waited to reply hoping for additional statistics from Bernd (I don't
envy you the updating task), but here goes. I have rearranged parts
Dear List and Adam,
I do not have my copy of MetBase 6.0 yet so it is difficult
for me to compare the latest SNCs numbers but... ;-)
What about somebody who have a time and knowledge (Adam?) will make a
mathematic
formula to compare hot/cold deserts finds?
Something like that:
Deserts Finds:
Q
"Sergey Vasiliev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Dear Adam and List,
> &
Hi Eric, Dr. Grossman and all,
Starbits Wrote:
>>Another comparison would be total mass. We know that NWA 869 has been estimated
>>at 1500-2000kg alone. What is the mass of all the Antarctic meteorites?<<
This is and would be an important consideration. I have noticed that a lot of the
Antarcti
Jeff Grossman wrote:
<70% of all known meteorites are Antarctic
20% of all known meteorites have been collected
commercially.
The remaining 10% include all the falls and sporadic
finds throughout history.>
I respectfully disagree. The naming conventions
tilt those numbers significantl
Without taking sides in this debate, I can help get the statistics straight.
73% of classified and published meteorites are Antarctic (source Metbase
v6.0, total 20,366 of 27,732 meteorites ).
Of the remaining meteorites, ~56% (~4100) of them are in numbered series
directly attributable to comm
To All,
Those receiving their new issues of Meteorite Magazine should pay particular attention
to the comments made by O. Richard Norton in the letter section (front of the
magazine).
Apparently the powers that be just can't be happy with controlling most of the
meteorite finds and falls in th
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