Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
I have an extra piece of mifflin from meteorite man Steve Arnold. .627 grams along with his card and provenance. Highest offer over $50 its yours. I would like a complete mifflin stone to complement my other slice but dont think I will find it lol. Email off list if interested. Cheers Steve Dunklee On Sun May 8th, 2011 10:20 PM EDT Stuart McDaniel wrote: That is what I am seeing, but I think I will wait on Catterton to let me know what it I for sure before I make a decision unless someone wants to trade me a real Mifflin for it. LOL. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:04 PM To: steve ; Michael Cottingham ; greg c Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Stuart: I ended up with a piece as well and I have been looking at pics on the IMCA Encyclopedia and it looks like Chergach, an H5 that fell in 2007. Greg S From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: mikew...@gilanet.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:51:50 -0400 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... I have a piece of the Mifflin in question and I for one want to commend Greg for his handling of this. He has always been more than a fair dealer to me. I have bought several from him and nothing but professional. I am in no hurry to get a refund. I would honestly like to know WHAT it is I got from him as a Mifflin, then we can work something out. I only have a small slice so we are not talking about something that will break the bank. My natural curiosity wants to know what it IS. The fact that this has been outted does not concern me that Greg will not make it right. I am willing to wait to find out the mystery. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: michael cottingham Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:58 PM To: Greg Catterton Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
It didn't come from Mifflin. I bet $100 it is a chergach bought at Tucson in feb 2010 and sold to you as mifflin for a 1000% markup. Stop worrying about new find. Mifflin was very wet place. That stone is from Africa. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: That is some of the speculation that it may be a new find, or a planted find. Once I get some of the material returned, I am sending samples to be tested to try to help determine what it is and how long its been on Earth. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:49 PM Hello List and Michael C. A huge compelling question is what the fake Mifflin really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested, or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with topic title whole stone concerns ...(I'm still interested in a detailed perspective on that as well.) Michael, 'twould be good to get the fakes analyzed asap, but I bet you're already well on your way for an answer. How weird it would be to actually be a new find? Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hello, Good Deal. Thanks for clarifying ... Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: No, I am refunding, giving credit and/or exchanges to all who got the material. While I am taking the steps needed to get 100% of the material returned to me, I still want answers that clearly have not been given... like what is this stone, when/how long ago did it fall and what it likely is. Further testing will be done, and has already been set up. I want answers and so do many others. Proper testing is the only way it can be done. I am doing the best I can to be open and honest concerning what I am doing. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Cc: jimsk...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:58 PM Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
Hello List and Michael C. A huge compelling question is what the fake Mifflin really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested, or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with topic title whole stone concerns ...(I'm still interested in a detailed perspective on that as well.) Michael, 'twould be good to get the fakes analyzed asap, but I bet you're already well on your way for an answer. How weird it would be to actually be a new find? Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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No, I am refunding, giving credit and/or exchanges to all who got the material. While I am taking the steps needed to get 100% of the material returned to me, I still want answers that clearly have not been given... like what is this stone, when/how long ago did it fall and what it likely is. Further testing will be done, and has already been set up. I want answers and so do many others. Proper testing is the only way it can be done. I am doing the best I can to be open and honest concerning what I am doing. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Cc: jimsk...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:58 PM Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos...
The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Jim K., any chances of posting the Met. Bull photos of the wrong one here on List? Richard Montgoemry - Original Message - From: jimsk...@aol.com To: mikew...@gilanet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That is some of the speculation that it may be a new find, or a planted find. Once I get some of the material returned, I am sending samples to be tested to try to help determine what it is and how long its been on Earth. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:49 PM Hello List and Michael C. A huge compelling question is what the fake Mifflin really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested, or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with topic title whole stone concerns ...(I'm still interested in a detailed perspective on that as well.) Michael, 'twould be good to get the fakes analyzed asap, but I bet you're already well on your way for an answer. How weird it would be to actually be a new find? Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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All: I seriously doubt is from a new fall. If the person that found it thought so, why would they disappear? Why would they not try and find more? Why would all the deals from it's sale be untraceable? Just too many red flags. But would be interesting to find out what it is. Greg S Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: That is some of the speculation that it may be a new find, or a planted find. Once I get some of the material returned, I am sending samples to be tested to try to help determine what it is and how long its been on Earth. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:49 PM Hello List and Michael C. A huge compelling question is what the fake Mifflin really isChergach and Bassikounou have been suggested, or any popular H5 for that matter, and this relates to my intermediate topic question I posted during this thread with topic title whole stone concerns ...(I'm still interested in a detailed perspective on that as well.) Michael, 'twould be good to get the fakes analyzed asap, but I bet you're already well on your way for an answer. How weird it would be to actually be a new find? Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 1:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Here you go: _http://s1122.photobucket.com/albums/l523/jimski74/?action=viewcurrent=P52100062.jpg_ (http://s1122.photobucket.com/albums/l523/jimski74/?action=viewcurrent=P52100062.jpg) Cheers, Jim Konwerski (Jim K) In a message dated 5/8/2011 7:17:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rickm...@earthlink.net writes: Jim K., any chances of posting the Met. Bull photos of the wrong one here on List? Richard Montgoemry - Original Message - From: jimsk...@aol.com To: mikew...@gilanet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I have a piece of the Mifflin in question and I for one want to commend Greg for his handling of this. He has always been more than a fair dealer to me. I have bought several from him and nothing but professional. I am in no hurry to get a refund. I would honestly like to know WHAT it is I got from him as a Mifflin, then we can work something out. I only have a small slice so we are not talking about something that will break the bank. My natural curiosity wants to know what it IS. The fact that this has been outted does not concern me that Greg will not make it right. I am willing to wait to find out the mystery. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: michael cottingham Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:58 PM To: Greg Catterton Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list
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Stuart: I ended up with a piece as well and I have been looking at pics on the IMCA Encyclopedia and it looks like Chergach, an H5 that fell in 2007. Greg S From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: mikew...@gilanet.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:51:50 -0400 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... I have a piece of the Mifflin in question and I for one want to commend Greg for his handling of this. He has always been more than a fair dealer to me. I have bought several from him and nothing but professional. I am in no hurry to get a refund. I would honestly like to know WHAT it is I got from him as a Mifflin, then we can work something out. I only have a small slice so we are not talking about something that will break the bank. My natural curiosity wants to know what it IS. The fact that this has been outted does not concern me that Greg will not make it right. I am willing to wait to find out the mystery. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: michael cottingham Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:58 PM To: Greg Catterton Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin below. Even if you did not get it from me, but just want a second opinion... send me the photo. Here is also a link to photos of Real Mifflin. Everything posted in the Meteoritical Bulletin entry is indeed REAL Mifflin. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52090 Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http
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That is what I am seeing, but I think I will wait on Catterton to let me know what it I for sure before I make a decision unless someone wants to trade me a real Mifflin for it. LOL. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:04 PM To: steve ; Michael Cottingham ; greg c Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Stuart: I ended up with a piece as well and I have been looking at pics on the IMCA Encyclopedia and it looks like Chergach, an H5 that fell in 2007. Greg S From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: mikew...@gilanet.com; star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 21:51:50 -0400 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... I have a piece of the Mifflin in question and I for one want to commend Greg for his handling of this. He has always been more than a fair dealer to me. I have bought several from him and nothing but professional. I am in no hurry to get a refund. I would honestly like to know WHAT it is I got from him as a Mifflin, then we can work something out. I only have a small slice so we are not talking about something that will break the bank. My natural curiosity wants to know what it IS. The fact that this has been outted does not concern me that Greg will not make it right. I am willing to wait to find out the mystery. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: michael cottingham Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:58 PM To: Greg Catterton Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; jimsk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... Hello, Does, this mean you are not refunding customer's money now? It is clearly not Mifflin and it seems further tests is just a delay. If I am wrong in assuming this, then I apologize, but it would be best to buy these back now and get them to the trash can and out of collections. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham On May 8, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Greg Catterton wrote: The slice Jim has is the non Mifflin stone. Jim, sorry, I have tons of emails, just got to yours and sent you an email as you must have been posting this. I am reclaiming the material and will be sending a sample soon to be tested to try to confirm when this fell and just what it is. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 5/8/11, michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com wrote: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin Update... and Real Mifflin Photos... To: jimsk...@aol.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 6:21 PM Hello, I think the one you mentioned...is really hard to tell. Catterton did a part trade/cash deal with me and some of the trade material was REAL Mifflin that I personally found, even though you purchased it from him it might be the real deal, at least on that piece. The time frame would have to be after July 10th, because he did not have my real Mifflin until after then. Best Wishes Michael On May 8, 2011, at 4:17 PM, jimsk...@aol.com wrote: Hi Michael and list, Not all of the Mifflin photo's on the Met. Bulletin (IMCA Encyclopedia of Meteorites) are of the real thing. I have three photos there. One is a slice from Joe's main mass, another is a complete individual that I found during my five day hunt and the fake is the slice that I purchased from Greg Catterton. I contacted Greg C this morning to get my refund and have not received a response. I'll remove the photo later. If you have one that looks like this, you've been duped. Best Wishes, Jim K In a message dated 5/8/2011 3:47:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikew...@gilanet.com writes: Hello, Since Jason posted his discovery, 2 more pieces of fake Mifflin have been recovered. Taking into account cut loss, I think I am almost certain that I have recovered 95% of the stone that I was duped into buying. I will not be 100% certain until all of the pieces are returned to me. Even though, I have not been 100% refunded for my purchase, I feel it is important to refund people's money immediately or as fast as possible and to get this fake crap off the market and into the trash can... or maybe into a lawyer's hand! PLEASE NOTE: If you have any doubt about a Mifflin specimen you obtained from me ...PLEASE send me a photo so I can confirm one way or the other. Especially ,if it does not look like anything in the Met Bulletin
